--- Log opened Wed Oct 18 00:00:39 2017 20171018 01:54:09< wesnoth-discord-> So someone else is publishing a 5 scenario goblin campaign 3 days after I published my 4 scenario goblin campaign. Is writing short goblin camapigns a common thing to do or is this just a really weird coincidence? 20171018 01:56:03-!- vultraz [uid24821@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has joined #wesnoth 20171018 01:58:19< wesnoth-discord-> There's a lot of goblin campaigns 20171018 01:58:30< wesnoth-discord-> They're like Wesnoth's hobbits 20171018 01:59:21< wesnoth-discord-> huh 20171018 01:59:35< wesnoth-discord-> that's not a description I would have used for goblins, but it somehow fits 20171018 02:03:30-!- ArneBab_ [~quassel@freenet/developer/arnebab] has joined #wesnoth 20171018 02:07:31-!- ArneBab [~quassel@freenet/developer/arnebab] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20171018 02:17:56< aeth> They're basically the only sentient underdogs. The level 0 humans advance to normal soldiers and the walking corpses are... well... zombies. 20171018 02:25:20< wesnoth-discord-> But what about those bats though 20171018 02:25:27< wesnoth-discord-> They have to be sentient 20171018 02:25:32< wesnoth-discord-> Or perhaps mind controlled 20171018 02:25:39< wesnoth-discord-> 🤔 20171018 02:29:33< aeth> I'm pretty sure the bats are either mind controlled or tamed in some way. 20171018 02:30:05< aeth> Probably mind control because pretty much everything outside of the DA line can be assumed to be under some control 20171018 02:30:48< aeth> As for the falcons, I'm not sure how they follow human orders. 20171018 02:31:27< wesnoth-discord-> Training, so far as I'm aware? 20171018 02:31:37< wesnoth-discord-> We have falconers IRL, so.... 20171018 02:31:53< wesnoth-discord-> Also, it's harder to relate to a bird 20171018 02:32:00< wesnoth-discord-> Goblins are humanoid 20171018 03:37:05-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Quit: KABOOM! It seems that I have exploded. Please wait while I reinstall the universe.] 20171018 04:04:31-!- Xjs|moonshine [moon@chrysostomos.aoide.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20171018 04:15:26< wesnoth-discord-> guys, how do i play against saurians and clashers as loyalist? i was on freelands just now and was not really sure how to recruit or when to push 20171018 04:15:47< wesnoth-discord-> it was both random 20171018 04:16:25< wesnoth-discord-> i grabbed some villages at the start but grabbing vills doesn't seem to really cut it vs this kind of unit composition. 20171018 04:18:50< wesnoth-discord-> my village grabbers (spearmen) just got killed by augurs at night until he got a level 2. is the pressure on him to push or on me to push? i can't even tell. clashers make good retal at night, skirmishers make good retal at night too esp if they're strong 20171018 04:20:49-!- Xjs|moonshine [moon@chrysostomos.aoide.de] has joined #wesnoth 20171018 04:58:01< Necrosporus> You can use heavy infantry against saurians 20171018 04:58:18< Necrosporus> And spearmen / bowmen against drakes 20171018 05:00:03< wesnoth-discord-> Now I need to make a campaign involving a Necromancer escaping death by transferring his mind to a bat 20171018 05:00:25< wesnoth-discord-> In the end he rises up with his bat brethren against the Necromantic overlords 20171018 05:02:30< wesnoth-discord-> A new kind of Lich 20171018 05:02:40< wesnoth-discord-> Bat-Lich 20171018 05:08:00< wesnoth-discord-> @necrosporus so, should I just hold off on committing until I can get an HI to the lines? 20171018 05:08:45< wesnoth-discord-> my opponent had only clashers, augurs, one drake fighter (didnt ever fight with this one), one skirmisher and a glider that I killed with horseman rush 20171018 05:09:56< wesnoth-discord-> I was able to grab 3 of his villages and hold them for a few turns, but I'm not sure it was worth it, since he got the exp on his units 20171018 05:10:19< wesnoth-discord-> I was worried about HI getting pelted by all the augurs 20171018 06:00:05-!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20171018 06:03:35-!- synthpopisback [~synthpopi@2606:a000:7947:5000:84b3:ba15:56a7:5042] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20171018 06:03:55-!- synthpopisback [~synthpopi@2606:a000:7947:5000:84b3:ba15:56a7:5042] has joined #wesnoth 20171018 06:13:04-!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has joined #wesnoth 20171018 06:25:03-!- vultraz [uid24821@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 20171018 06:30:53-!- vultraz [uid24821@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has joined #wesnoth 20171018 06:59:22< Soliton> i wouldn't get a HI just lots of spearman, some bowman, perhaps a mage or cavalry. 20171018 07:18:09-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has joined #wesnoth 20171018 07:28:23< wesnoth-discord-> after thinking about it some more, i think what i may have done wrong was prematurely commit to an attack against drakes - augurs are really good at clearing villages at night and level 2 saurians are quite strong 20171018 07:29:01< wesnoth-discord-> i couldn't get a really good unit composition because i was just streaming spears to try and hold the villages i took, so i couldn't trade efficiently either 20171018 07:30:10< wesnoth-discord-> might be better to just turtle around on my own side of the map and maybe bank a little money until i can make a huge pierceball 20171018 07:30:26< wesnoth-discord-> or in the case of saurians, high enough mage count 20171018 07:31:09< wesnoth-discord-> would a single HI not be effective for this purpose? or does he not have a place in the matchup/on freelands 20171018 07:33:56< wesnoth-discord-> im thinking i could start by amassing spears for holding a position, then get the HI relatively early just to deter aggression, maybe on second day? 20171018 07:34:42< wesnoth-discord-> getting a mage seems not so great unless i'm against mostly skirms instead of augurs - they're so weak at night and killable from even 2 skirmishers 20171018 07:35:17< wesnoth-discord-> and before i can amass enough units for a solid line, a mage would be rather vulnerable to such assassination tactics? 20171018 07:35:49< wesnoth-discord-> i don't really know how to play the matchup, just trying to gain some more insight into it since i had to play that last game by ear without much prior knowledge 20171018 07:36:17-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has quit [Quit: Disconnecting from stoned server.] 20171018 07:36:32-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@p579FBEDC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20171018 07:37:57-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20171018 08:04:30-!- Vadatajs [~Vadatajs@63-152-69-117.cdrr.qwest.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20171018 08:04:33-!- Murgatroyd [~Vadatajs@63-152-69-117.cdrr.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth 20171018 08:24:55-!- TC04 [~quassel@venus.arosser.com] has joined #wesnoth 20171018 08:28:36-!- TC01 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