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20171101 01:33:00< twb> me again
20171101 01:33:16< twb> I was looking into why several UMC addons all try to access e.g. misc/ellipse-hero-leader-bottom.png
20171101 01:33:29< twb> That string doesn't appear in the actual code, so I think it must be constructed programmatically
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20171101 01:36:25< twb> I can't see any obvious smoking gun in the scenario files
20171101 01:36:44< twb> I was hoping for something like is_hero=yes and is_leader=yes in the same unit's code block
20171101 01:37:02< twb> The closest I can see is {IS_HERO} and passive_leader=yes
20171101 01:40:31< celticminstrel> Ellipse filenames are constructed programmatically.
20171101 01:43:03< twb> thanks
20171101 01:44:22< twb> My immediate goal was to fix the annoying yellow "image not found" underlay on some characters in some UMC campaigns
20171101 01:45:00< twb> I can either do this by making the missing image files exist (as symlinks to images that DO exist), or by fixing the .cfg's somehow so the bad filenames aren't generated
20171101 01:45:09< twb> It seems like option #2 is harder than I thought
20171101 01:48:25< twb> What does "nozoc" mean anyway
20171101 01:48:35< twb> "zone of control"?
20171101 01:53:37< wesnoth-discord-> <Vultraz> yes
20171101 01:53:42< twb> okey dokey
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20171101 09:59:27-!- sevu changed the topic of #wesnoth to: Wesnoth User Channel | https://www.wesnoth.org | https://status.wesnoth.org | Official Discord: https://discord.gg/tSmJS2E | Latest stable version 1.12.6 | Latest development version 1.13.10 | >> Want to help? Go here: https://r.wesnoth.org/t42911 (and thanks!) << | Public IRC logs: https://irclogs.wesnoth.org
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20171101 14:46:19< vn971> Hi all. I've got a segmentation fault in wesnoth-1.13, by using TAB in Lua console. Backtrace:
20171101 14:47:40< vn971> https://gist.github.com/vn971/0e12a1ffe9a7445588ae701659b1312c
20171101 14:48:49< vn971> I've created a unit via `u = wesnoth.create_unit{.....}`, then tried to auto-complete a text like `u.sta`  (wanted to get u.status).
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20171101 15:00:41< Soliton> post a bug report so it doesn't get forgotten.
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20171101 18:41:05< vn971> Soliton: I have gdb open. Should I close it after I took the `bt` ?
20171101 18:47:21< Soliton> you could see if 'bt full' gives you some more info otherwise that should be fine, yes.
20171101 18:54:25< vn971> Soliton: Thank you. Raised the bug here: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/issues/2155
20171101 18:55:19< Soliton> thank you for testing the dev version! :-)
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20171101 19:48:38< vn971> Glad to help.)
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20171101 21:33:14< vn971> Wow. I started writing add-ons in Lua instead of pure WML. It's a HUGE improvement in productivity for the "write->test" cycle!
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20171101 21:37:13< vultraz> indeed
20171101 21:40:37< vn971> // I don't have to write lots of XML-like text, run it, observe an error I cannot understand (or no error at all) and guess what went wrong. Also, I have functions, debugging (I can use `print` if in doubt) etc.
20171101 21:45:02< vultraz> yup
20171101 21:45:22< vultraz> better to write custom WML tags, stuff the complex lua logic in there
20171101 22:02:01< DeFender1031> The part that bothers me is the way WML is translated to these annoying frankentables in lua.
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20171101 22:13:11< vultraz>  it
20171101 22:13:21< vultraz> s nicer with the set_wml_tag_metatable thingy
20171101 22:13:24< vultraz> or whatsitcanned
20171101 22:13:25< vultraz> called
20171101 22:26:35< DeFender1031> only for creating the wml frankentables. Working with them is still something of a pain
20171101 22:26:55< DeFender1031> on the other hand, this is low on my list of complaints.
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20171101 22:59:28< vn971> DeFender1031: you mean implementation complexity or addon writer difficulties?
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20171101 23:00:07< DeFender1031> both, either, there's plenty to go around. Too tired at the moment to really elaborate, though
20171101 23:03:23< vn971> DeFender1031: well I'm OK with that level of details, yet, because I'm only getting familiar to _.
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20171101 23:28:08< vn971> Ouch! All Lua history is lost if wesnoth exits not normally (crashes or I kill it, for example).
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20171101 23:58:32< Ravana_> same for peferences
20171101 23:59:32< Ravana_> from what I have noticed, all that saving during exiting causes high disk use, so when I have nothing important to save, I kill that process
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