--- Log opened Thu Nov 02 00:00:01 2017 20171102 00:03:49< wesnoth-discord-> does Wesnoth project own any of the art & sound assets? 20171102 00:04:05< wesnoth-discord-> i remember there was discussion about the logo but i don't know how it ended up 20171102 00:11:36-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has quit [Quit: The Game] 20171102 00:24:19-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171102 00:24:25-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20171102 00:44:53-!- sevu [~Shiki@p54856C58.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171102 00:46:25-!- turupawn [~turupawn@190.185.113.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20171102 00:50:39-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171102 00:57:42-!- ToBeCloud [uid51591@wikimedia/ToBeFree] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 20171102 01:03:38-!- usaki [~usaki@cgn85-194-4-166.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Quit: usaki] 20171102 01:04:58-!- vultraz [uid24821@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 20171102 01:34:24-!- Narrat [~Narrat@p5DCC6953.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance.] 20171102 01:49:08< vn971> DAMN. I've de-bugged my [Lua] code for a very long time, trying to figure out how I made a `null` appear into my code. 20171102 01:49:46-!- vultraz [uid24821@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has joined #wesnoth 20171102 01:49:47< vn971> Until I finally noticed that Lua doesn't use `null` a lot, it uses `nil`. And the "null" is actually a string. 20171102 01:50:15< vn971> Annnd guess what, some units in default Era have their advances_to set to string "null". 20171102 01:51:06< vn971> wesnoth.unit_types["Deathblade"].__cfg.advances_to 20171102 01:51:15< vn971> Deathblade has it, for example ^^ 20171102 01:58:51< vn971> * reported the bug to bug tracker. 20171102 03:05:32-!- sigurdfd [~SigurdFD@dynamic-acs-72-23-110-196.zoominternet.net] has quit [] 20171102 03:22:31-!- ArneBab [~quassel@freenet/developer/arnebab] has joined #wesnoth 20171102 03:26:21-!- ArneBab_ [~quassel@freenet/developer/arnebab] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20171102 03:51:16-!- synthpopisback [~synthpopi@cpe-2606-A000-7947-5000-A9D5-C134-EE60-B1A4.dyn6.twc.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20171102 03:51:34-!- synthpopisback [~synthpopi@cpe-2606-A000-7947-5000-A9D5-C134-EE60-B1A4.dyn6.twc.com] has joined #wesnoth 20171102 04:00:26-!- turupawn [~turupawn@190.185.113.82] has joined #wesnoth 20171102 04:33:54-!- turupawn_ [~turupawn@190.185.113.82] has joined #wesnoth 20171102 04:33:56-!- turupawn [~turupawn@190.185.113.82] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20171102 04:41:31-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171102 04:41:39-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20171102 06:03:57-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171102 06:04:03-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20171102 06:21:11-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20171102 07:07:12-!- HeyCitizen [~HeyCitize@sttrpq3809w-lp130-03-67-68-202-39.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #wesnoth 20171102 07:14:27-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171102 07:14:34-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20171102 07:17:58-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [] 20171102 07:43:23-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has joined #wesnoth 20171102 08:01:44-!- Gambit [~derek@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 20171102 08:01:50-!- Gambit [~derek@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has joined #wesnoth 20171102 08:29:27-!- turupawn_ [~turupawn@190.185.113.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20171102 08:45:55-!- turupawn_ [~turupawn@190.92.33.33] has joined #wesnoth 20171102 08:57:47< vn971> // If anything, I was wrong about special values in `unit.advances_to` values. It's standardized across Default era. It's just the fact that "null" string means an empty commpa-separated list. Dealing with that is not as bad if at least it's a convention. 20171102 09:00:26< wesnoth-discord-> that reminds me I should update that post I made in WML Workshop 20171102 09:01:05< wesnoth-discord-> vn971: did you encounter any units with advances_to= their own unit_type? 20171102 09:02:25-!- turupawn_ [~turupawn@190.92.33.33] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20171102 09:09:39< Soliton> "Quenoth Youth" in utbs 20171102 09:11:08< Soliton> regarding the "null" value, it certainly is no bug but if there is no good reason for it it'd still make sense to change it to an empty string. 20171102 09:12:29< Soliton> well, depending on how likely that is to break UMC. 20171102 09:12:52< wesnoth-discord-> It would be possible to allow both "null" and empty strings. 20171102 09:13:51< Soliton> in code that checks for it, yes. but for mainline we'd need to decide what to set. 20171102 09:14:59< Soliton> and if UMC does not expect it somethings will break. though it might be rarely checked or the breakage usually not that bad. no idea. 20171102 09:43:55< vn971> sapient_n3t: I didn't. 20171102 09:44:16< vn971> but my code didn't checked that, so it may very well be there are such units. 20171102 10:10:08-!- ToBeCloud [uid51591@wikimedia/ToBeFree] has joined #wesnoth 20171102 10:16:51-!- vladimirslavik [vslavik@nat/redhat/x-rhmsphzoogbaotra] has joined #wesnoth 20171102 10:39:04-!- sevu [~Shiki@p548547FE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20171102 10:56:30< vn971> Soliton: well, generally, an empty string would be better of course. We could then write that the format is just "comma-separated unit types". Definitely easier for Lua. 20171102 10:56:31< vn971> BUT then again, if other addons do not have to stick to this convention, we would actually begin to have Lua code that assumes no "null" and breaks on non-standard stuff. I'm really ufraid of this. 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