--- Log opened Tue Nov 21 00:00:26 2017 20171121 01:11:31-!- soloojos [~soloojos@gateway/tor-sasl/soloojos] has joined #wesnoth 20171121 01:41:41-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has quit [Quit: The Game] 20171121 01:58:54< wesnoth-discord-> @ex nihilo Talentless Mage has been around for a good while 20171121 01:59:04< wesnoth-discord-> 1.8 or 1.10 20171121 02:01:10< wesnoth-discord-> @EoZ as far as writing male or female characters, sometimes you can read a character and think that the author didn't really understand the mindset, but then encounter the other gender in the same story and realize it's pretty much as hard to write your own gender. 20171121 02:02:52< wesnoth-discord-> When I played Genesis during development I found myself relating strongly to Yumi; of characters of my own creation, a female is my most avataristic. 20171121 02:04:21< wesnoth-discord-> For a strong character, gender really isn't the most important part of the personality; it's merely a shaping point of the reader's expectation and role within the tale's universe. 20171121 02:32:43< wesnoth-discord-> Yumi's so cute 😖 20171121 02:36:09< wesnoth-discord-> I should make her less cute so I don't feel bad 20171121 02:44:22-!- Narrat [~Narrat@p5DED105E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance.] 20171121 03:09:02< wesnoth-discord-> imo wesnoth just isn't well-suited to very detailed characterization 20171121 03:12:30< wesnoth-discord-> it gets in the way of the actual playing of the game by making things overly convoluted, when campaign creators try too hard to make their characters super unique and likeable and quirky 20171121 03:12:48< wesnoth-discord-> if i wanted to read something with great characters i would just pick up a novel 20171121 03:12:49< wesnoth-discord-> lol 20171121 03:13:59< wesnoth-discord-> @Yumi one of the reasons I stopped playing is it sounded like she turns into a bad guy and I didn't want to play that heh 20171121 03:18:35< wesnoth-discord-> How large is the Green Swamp? 20171121 03:27:42< wesnoth-discord-> It's not shown on the main map, and it's only mentioned in TRoW. 20171121 03:31:30< wesnoth-discord-> Is its size ever defined? 20171121 03:34:58< wesnoth-discord-> Don't believe so. 20171121 03:35:19< wesnoth-discord-> Distances in Wesnoth are in any case very vague 20171121 03:36:53< wesnoth-discord-> Yeah. 20171121 03:37:02< wesnoth-discord-> Thanks anyway. 20171121 03:45:13< wesnoth-discord-> Yeah 20171121 03:45:30< wesnoth-discord-> Thanks anyway, pydsigner. 20171121 03:50:25< wesnoth-discord-> @pydsigner I wouldn't say she turns into a bad guy 20171121 03:50:32< wesnoth-discord-> but it's your choice however you like 20171121 03:54:21-!- synthpopisback [~synthpopi@cpe-2606-A000-7947-5000-58C1-460B-9B86-A00B.dyn6.twc.com] has joined #wesnoth 20171121 03:56:07-!- synthpopisback [~synthpopi@cpe-2606-A000-7947-5000-58C1-460B-9B86-A00B.dyn6.twc.com] has quit [Client Quit] 20171121 03:58:05-!- ArneBab [~quassel@freenet/developer/arnebab] has joined #wesnoth 20171121 04:02:22-!- ArneBab_ [~quassel@freenet/developer/arnebab] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20171121 05:11:12< wesnoth-discord-> Is the book about Knalga just written by a fan? 20171121 05:11:40< wesnoth-discord-> Or is it in a different universe? 20171121 05:15:13< wesnoth-discord-> Nevermind 20171121 05:35:52< wesnoth-discord-> Many traits of characters aren't really gender related but others are. Well Yumi is an amazing character but there are a few moments that make you realize that its a bit over the top, such a character with such level of social anxiety can't (or rather is not very likely) to exist in real life. I remember there were 2 such moments, one was when Merthiaal said that Yumi's voice is "weak and hoarse, she is not used to speaking" and the 20171121 05:35:52< wesnoth-discord-> other was when Esther said "Yumi, you haven't spoken for weeks" I chuckled at these since, even if you are socially anxious Its not very likely you will get yourself to such a state. xD 20171121 05:36:59< wesnoth-discord-> I've gone a few days without talking before 20171121 05:37:18< wesnoth-discord-> It's not unimaginable in real life. Ever heard of autism? 20171121 05:37:25< wesnoth-discord-> (I'm in the spectrum myself.) 20171121 05:37:54< wesnoth-discord-> Few days is not few weeks, its possible, but sooner or latery in reality you will start talking to yourself xD 20171121 05:38:32< wesnoth-discord-> I can't reply to that 20171121 05:38:35< wesnoth-discord-> because that gives spoilers 20171121 05:38:36< wesnoth-discord-> 😛 20171121 05:40:21< wesnoth-discord-> @EoZ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hikikomori 20171121 05:40:38< wesnoth-discord-> a few weeks is nothing 20171121 05:41:43< wesnoth-discord-> Autism is a different thing 20171121 05:42:26< wesnoth-discord-> I would argue that they're related, but this isn't the place to address that 20171121 05:42:45< wesnoth-discord-> whether or not you want to interpret Yumi as having a mental illness, that's up to you 20171121 05:42:59< wesnoth-discord-> Autism isn't mental illness. 20171121 05:43:12< wesnoth-discord-> it's not 20171121 05:43:36< wesnoth-discord-> I think it's usually referred to as a "spectrum disorder" 20171121 05:44:19< wesnoth-discord-> It's a genetic and permanent condition, and therefore doesn't fall into scope of mental illnesses (which, in turn, are temporary and curable). 20171121 05:44:37< wesnoth-discord-> mental illnesses can be genetic 20171121 05:44:43< wesnoth-discord-> they can also be chronic 20171121 05:45:03< wesnoth-discord-> but yes, they usually are considered "curable" to some extent 20171121 05:45:44< wesnoth-discord-> It doesn't mean hikikomori don't speak 20171121 05:46:23< wesnoth-discord-> that is literally just about the last thing I want to debate about 20171121 05:46:56< wesnoth-discord-> I will explain a little in DM 20171121 05:48:21< wesnoth-discord-> Yumi doesn't seem autistic to me xD 20171121 06:21:13< wesnoth-discord-> Dealing with the "ghosts" Yumi does would make anyone a little anti-social 20171121 06:22:55-!- Murgatroyd [~Vadatajs@63-152-111-149.cdrr.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth 20171121 06:23:01-!- wesnoth-discord- [~wesnoth-d@baldras.wesnoth.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171121 06:23:01-!- Vadatajs [~Vadatajs@63-152-111-149.cdrr.qwest.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20171121 06:23:07-!- wesnoth-discord- [~wesnoth-d@baldras.wesnoth.org] has joined #wesnoth 20171121 06:26:44< wesnoth-discord-> Somehow Aryel is more social still and she does more than just ghosts 20171121 06:26:45< wesnoth-discord-> Whoa 20171121 06:26:57< wesnoth-discord-> The fuck happened in here when I wasn’t looking 20171121 06:27:23< wesnoth-discord-> 🤷 20171121 06:28:06< wesnoth-discord-> Y’all talking about some anime? 20171121 06:28:20< wesnoth-discord-> yes, that's exactly it! 20171121 06:28:29< wesnoth-discord-> we are talking about sikrit dokuments 20171121 06:28:39< wesnoth-discord-> I know anime talk when I see it 20171121 06:29:33< wesnoth-discord-> wesnoth campaigns = best anime 20171121 06:29:38< wesnoth-discord-> What with all the “Has mental disorder” “Doesn’t have mental disorder” “G-g-g-g-ghosts!” 20171121 06:30:37< wesnoth-discord-> I joke, but Mountain Witch exists, so fuck. 20171121 06:30:50< wesnoth-discord-> mudcrawlers are squishy 20171121 06:30:59< wesnoth-discord-> No, they’re squashy 20171121 06:31:05< wesnoth-discord-> >:O 20171121 06:31:20< wesnoth-discord-> Cause ya got to squash them 20171121 06:31:35< wesnoth-discord-> All that impact resist makes it hard to squish them 20171121 06:32:51< wesnoth-discord-> this is true 20171121 06:34:18< wesnoth-discord-> So fun to get a mud crawler in Modified world conquest, and just use it to beat all the nasty heavy infantry men 20171121 06:36:27< wesnoth-discord-> Also trying to make up a force of completely/mostly invisible forces 20171121 06:37:11< wesnoth-discord-> Deal with the unit spam by going around it, leave a few tanks units to draw attention 20171121 06:40:10< wesnoth-discord-> for world conquest? 20171121 07:05:39< wesnoth-discord-> Ye 20171121 07:43:12-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has joined #wesnoth 20171121 08:14:28-!- mistymind [3b0fecc2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.59.15.236.194] has joined #wesnoth 20171121 08:17:31-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has joined #wesnoth 20171121 08:19:58-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20171121 09:11:18-!- sevu [~Shiki@p5485657B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20171121 09:24:53< wesnoth-discord-> https://puu.sh/yqvRa/a381cda1f2.jpg 20171121 09:25:08< wesnoth-discord-> Wow! Monster!! 20171121 09:35:23< zookeeper> you miscapitalized. 20171121 09:36:46< zookeeper> but indeed that is quality dialogue. 20171121 09:37:39< wesnoth-discord-> best anime 20171121 09:41:40-!- sevu [~Shiki@p5485657B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 20171121 10:06:26-!- vslavik [vslavik@nat/redhat/x-xvnjpymktpfoszbe] has joined #wesnoth 20171121 10:08:41-!- vladimirslavik [vslavik@nat/redhat/x-ufkhpfchaewrqowq] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20171121 10:21:55< Necrosporus> I know where this is from. Mountain Witch 20171121 10:29:10< wesnoth-discord-> yes, there was talk about it earlier so i had to see it for myself 20171121 10:37:31-!- vslavik__ [vslavik@nat/redhat/x-qlbvdgnwkttitmhs] has joined #wesnoth 20171121 10:38:15-!- vslavik__ is now known as vladimirslavik 20171121 10:38:25-!- vladimirslavik [vslavik@nat/redhat/x-qlbvdgnwkttitmhs] has quit [Changing host] 20171121 10:38:25-!- vladimirslavik [vslavik@wesnoth/translator/VladimirSlavik] has joined #wesnoth 20171121 10:40:31-!- vslavik [vslavik@nat/redhat/x-xvnjpymktpfoszbe] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20171121 10:44:59-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171121 10:54:38< wesnoth-discord-> If you really think that dialogue from that campaign is funny you didn't read the dialogues 20171121 10:56:02< wesnoth-discord-> i've just started playing through it, i've been reading them 20171121 10:56:15< wesnoth-discord-> some are kind of hard to understand 20171121 10:56:44< wesnoth-discord-> And that makes most of them ridiculous though other are a bit ridiculous also on purpose 20171121 10:57:05< wesnoth-discord-> the units you get are funny too 20171121 10:59:21< wesnoth-discord-> though i stopped playing at the ruins, i think it got a bit boring 20171121 11:05:59< wesnoth-discord-> all the movetypes are really troublesome to remember 20171121 11:09:51-!- mistymind [3b0fecc2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.59.15.236.194] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20171121 11:18:40-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has quit [Quit: The Game] 20171121 11:31:19-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has joined #wesnoth 20171121 11:34:20< Necrosporus> I did play through quite far there 20171121 11:34:53< Necrosporus> Dialogues are that way because the author is not a native English speaker 20171121 12:15:33-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20171121 12:24:04< wesnoth-discord-> ok ex nihilo, i take it back, the longer dialogues are too painful to read 20171121 12:24:39< wesnoth-discord-> :run: 20171121 12:28:19< wesnoth-discord-> The dialogues are just copy paste from google translator, confirmed by the creator 20171121 12:55:44-!- soloojos [~soloojos@gateway/tor-sasl/soloojos] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20171121 13:13:14-!- vultraz [uid24821@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 20171121 13:41:59-!- Skyfaller [~skyfaller@wikipedia/Skyfaller] has joined #wesnoth 20171121 14:03:28-!- Skyfaller [~skyfaller@wikipedia/Skyfaller] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 20171121 14:05:02-!- vultraz [uid24821@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has joined #wesnoth 20171121 14:59:41-!- Bonobo [~Bonobo@14-203-49-124.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20171121 15:11:46-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171121 15:11:53-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined 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them down with a dozen of lucky boomsticks right now 20171121 23:31:32< wesnoth-discord-> they do 9 damage and hit around half the time against 2x3 and no drain of the ghosts rng isn't kind right now though 20171121 23:47:13-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171121 23:47:20-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth --- Log closed Wed Nov 22 00:00:27 2017