--- Log opened Wed Nov 22 00:00:27 2017 20171122 00:04:19< wesnoth-discord-> i wonned 20171122 00:05:44-!- Narrat [~Narrat@p5DED105E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20171122 00:21:56-!- amello [~amello@179.159.56.56] has joined #wesnoth 20171122 00:23:23< wesnoth-discord-> gryphon can do some damage to ghost 20171122 00:23:29< wesnoth-discord-> poachers are ok 20171122 00:23:45< wesnoth-discord-> you can ulf them with strong ulfs, esp at day 20171122 00:26:04-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20171122 00:41:02-!- amello [~amello@179.159.56.56] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20171122 00:58:13-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has joined #wesnoth 20171122 01:01:39< aeth> "poachers are ok" <- you are now banned from 5 countries that are home to endangered species. 20171122 01:01:56 * celticminstrel reaches for the like button, then realizes this is IRC. 20171122 01:07:24< wesnoth-discord-> gryphons may cause them to regain health though as they are hit fairly easily in melee also shoutout to this song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqESJ07kdnI&index=18&list=PL5A9BD61DE37A3D59 20171122 01:09:43< wesnoth-discord-> reminded me of that one but those are entirely different songs, really great songs though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48PtWftxwlA 20171122 01:13:12< wesnoth-discord-> yes ghosts have drain 20171122 01:13:18< wesnoth-discord-> but gryph has 50% you know 20171122 01:13:25< wesnoth-discord-> its still more than 40% 20171122 01:13:34< wesnoth-discord-> and it does big hits that can burst a ghost down 20171122 01:14:37-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has quit [Quit: The Game] 20171122 01:14:38< wesnoth-discord-> i think its supposed to be tough for dwarf to deal with ghosts, they dont have a real hard counter 20171122 01:18:39< wesnoth-discord-> imo its a fruitless endeavor to try and stop endangered species from dying out @aeth things die out on their own when nature is left alone, and trying to get in the way of this just smacks of human arrogance 20171122 01:19:19< wesnoth-discord-> if it came down to a choice i'd rather focus on keeping humans alive lol 20171122 01:21:03< wesnoth-discord-> i tend to have real bad rng when doing stuff with gryphons, so i'd rather stay with thunderers they only do 2 damage less than the birdies and don't give a chance to drain 20171122 01:21:29< wesnoth-discord-> well, the units have different purposes lol 20171122 01:21:42< wesnoth-discord-> also i suspect thunderers are not that good vs ud 20171122 01:21:52< wesnoth-discord-> since they're rather range-heavy and pierce-resistant 20171122 01:22:08< wesnoth-discord-> i mean maybe vs lv2 ghosts 20171122 01:22:19< wesnoth-discord-> buying a unit specially to counter it could be good 20171122 01:22:36< wesnoth-discord-> or maybe you could buy a thunderer to hold a vill vs adepts 20171122 01:22:48< wesnoth-discord-> against ghosts they do a wonderful job, ghouls and walking dead, against skeletons there are footpads or the beautiful lil warriors, which are a real blessing there 20171122 01:23:34< wesnoth-discord-> yeah but ud shouldnt spam ghosts in the matchup anyway, ghouls resist pierce pretty well last time i checked 20171122 01:24:01< wesnoth-discord-> ghouls and wcs can be killed by other means, though thunderer not getting poisoned like a fighter 20171122 01:24:08< wesnoth-discord-> can be good 20171122 01:24:51< wesnoth-discord-> idk vs ud i always feel like the greatest danger is not in a long game but in the first night with adept/skel archer rush 20171122 01:25:08< wesnoth-discord-> ghosts, ok, it can be annoying but 20171122 01:25:11< wesnoth-discord-> it wont kill you alone 20171122 01:33:33-!- soloojos [~soloojos@gateway/tor-sasl/soloojos] has joined #wesnoth 20171122 01:50:15< wesnoth-discord-> say how often do you see the evolve thingies of elvish shamans? besides the story and a really weird match with 7 experimental ai's i've never seen one 20171122 02:21:09< wesnoth-discord-> in mp? almost never lol 20171122 02:21:51< wesnoth-discord-> i suspect the right way to buy shammies is only in quite small numbers even in matchups where they can see use 20171122 02:22:02< wesnoth-discord-> like, vs drakes i might get 1 20171122 02:22:44< wesnoth-discord-> and just have her be the slowing, 4hp-healing teen pop idol of the whole elvish army 20171122 02:23:29< wesnoth-discord-> so realistically i would just use her for slowing a retreating clasher or making it easier for elvish fighters to melee something and then get some healing after killing it 20171122 02:23:36< wesnoth-discord-> not for taking kills 20171122 02:24:03< wesnoth-discord-> elvish captains are just too cool 20171122 02:24:30< wesnoth-discord-> the leadership makes elvish fighters and archers actually do damage 20171122 02:24:58< wesnoth-discord-> like the difference from 4-4 to 5-4 is really big 20171122 02:25:30< wesnoth-discord-> senpai noticed you, time for 25% damage increase 20171122 02:34:27-!- Appleman1234 [~quassel@124x38x163x22.ap124.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20171122 02:46:10-!- Appleman1234 [~quassel@124x38x163x22.ap124.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has joined #wesnoth 20171122 03:07:11< wesnoth-discord-> in legacy of the invincibles should you buy the loyal lvl1 units even though they cost 10x more than usual? 20171122 03:48:35-!- Narrat [~Narrat@p5DED105E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance.] 20171122 03:57:05-!- ArneBab_ [~quassel@freenet/developer/arnebab] has joined #wesnoth 20171122 04:01:17-!- ArneBab [~quassel@freenet/developer/arnebab] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20171122 04:11:19-!- soloojos [~soloojos@gateway/tor-sasl/soloojos] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171122 04:11:51-!- soloojos [~soloojos@gateway/tor-sasl/soloojos] has joined #wesnoth 20171122 04:21:01-!- vultraz [uid24821@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 20171122 05:05:04-!- vultraz [uid24821@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has joined #wesnoth 20171122 05:53:33-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Quit: KABOOM! It seems that I have exploded. Please wait while I reinstall the universe.] 20171122 07:56:57-!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20171122 08:02:09-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has joined #wesnoth 20171122 08:02:14-!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has joined #wesnoth 20171122 08:20:59-!- cyphase_eviltwin [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has joined #wesnoth 20171122 08:23:41-!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20171122 08:34:26< wesnoth-discord-> ulfs against ghosts XD im serious 20171122 08:34:55< wesnoth-discord-> just uset hem at day and ideally attack ghosts before with fighters or whatever 20171122 08:36:14< wesnoth-discord-> Breaking the chains is one of the boring standard soundtracks 20171122 08:38:09< wesnoth-discord-> in loti yes, you should, you are fithy rich anyway 20171122 08:40:00< wesnoth-discord-> By this logic if you play knalga you support bandits xD 20171122 08:40:32-!- cyphase_eviltwin is now known as cyphase 20171122 08:58:23-!- Smedles_ [~quassel@2001:8003:a9b9:6400:a21d:48ff:fec7:ff5c] has joined #wesnoth 20171122 08:59:43-!- Smedles [~quassel@CPE-58-174-26-121.jbcz2.cha.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20171122 09:13:00-!- vladimirslavik [vslavik@nat/redhat/x-jusxiyfdjmdigtak] has joined #wesnoth 20171122 09:24:50-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has joined #wesnoth 20171122 09:40:53-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20171122 09:44:15< wesnoth-discord-> ulfs vs ghosts, ghosts vs ulfs 20171122 09:44:16< wesnoth-discord-> lol 20171122 09:48:47< wesnoth-discord-> its funny right 20171122 09:49:45< wesnoth-discord-> its about drain, during 4/6 tods ghost wins vs all ulfs except strong resilient on mountain (and maybe a few other strong ones) 20171122 09:50:02< wesnoth-discord-> then ulf always wins except maybe the weakest ulf on flat which is about 47% 20171122 09:50:17< wesnoth-discord-> lvl 2 wraith wins vs any ulf at any time, not tested vs berserker though 20171122 10:22:55-!- Ravana_ [~Ravana@unaffiliated/ravana/x-2327071] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20171122 10:32:57< wesnoth-discord-> tfw no spooky ghost gf to drain the lifeforce out of my hot-blooded berserking body 20171122 10:33:14< wesnoth-discord-> and by "gf", i mean "gayfriend" 20171122 11:47:18< wesnoth-discord-> What if Gryphon Riders have guns? 20171122 11:51:29-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20171122 12:02:21-!- Bonobo [~Bonobo@14-203-49-124.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20171122 12:13:48-!- vn971 [~vasya@94.158.103.15] has joined #wesnoth 20171122 12:14:20< vn971> Hi guys.) If anyone wants to play Creep Wars on wesnoth-1.13 (development version) -- write me, we can play.) 20171122 12:14:49< vn971> (And help wesnoth team by testing the dev version along the way.;-) 20171122 12:19:44< wesnoth-discord-> I hope it wont be like that 20171122 12:19:50< wesnoth-discord-> 1.14 comes out 20171122 12:20:00< wesnoth-discord-> i play it 20171122 12:20:12< wesnoth-discord-> i find out classical theme was removed 20171122 12:20:44< wesnoth-discord-> reason: redundant feature and nobody wasu sing it 20171122 12:21:06< vn971> EoZ, are you replying to me? 20171122 12:23:07-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has quit [Quit: The Game] 20171122 12:29:14< vn971> Anyway, I just propose to play. I'm not saying you should upgrade your wesnoth installation to unstable version. Just if you have it (or have both) -- we can play. 20171122 12:31:01-!- vultraz [uid24821@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 20171122 12:45:39-!- vultraz [uid24821@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has joined #wesnoth 20171122 12:53:42< wesnoth-discord-> What if the Gryphon Rider tree has ranged units? 20171122 12:56:38-!- Haudegen [~quassel@212-186-77-29.static.upcbusiness.at] has joined #wesnoth 20171122 13:16:03-!- soloojos [~soloojos@gateway/tor-sasl/soloojos] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171122 13:17:09-!- soloojos [~soloojos@gateway/tor-sasl/soloojos] has joined #wesnoth 20171122 13:51:08-!- soloojos [~soloojos@gateway/tor-sasl/soloojos] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20171122 14:04:53-!- soloojos [~soloojos@gateway/tor-sasl/soloojos] has joined #wesnoth 20171122 14:32:42-!- Haudegen [~quassel@212-186-77-29.static.upcbusiness.at] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20171122 14:46:46-!- Haudegen [~quassel@212-186-77-29.static.upcbusiness.at] has joined #wesnoth 20171122 14:49:02< wesnoth-discord-> Gryphon Bomber 20171122 14:50:27< vn971> advances to Gryphon Stealth Bomber :D 20171122 15:02:17-!- Ravana_ [~Ravana@unaffiliated/ravana/x-2327071] has joined #wesnoth 20171122 15:05:28< wesnoth-discord-> Americans, https://www.battleforthenet.com/ 20171122 15:06:07< wesnoth-discord-> how are you supposed to even play elf vs elf mirror matchup? basically both sides are camping forever and no one wants to attack in a million years 20171122 15:06:18< wesnoth-discord-> this is dumb as hell, man 20171122 15:12:07< wesnoth-discord-> @Kriss7475 Oh no! we don't want many companies to have control over the internet. One internet shoud be controlled by one government 20171122 15:19:11< wesnoth-discord-> @HeyCitizen Stop being sarcastic, this is a serious issue for America 20171122 15:22:39< wesnoth-discord-> I question how serious it really is. Perhaps i'm very naive about how the free market is supposed to work. Maybe I have an irrational distaste for government intervention... 20171122 15:22:49< wesnoth-discord-> Gryphon Gunner would be a deadly unit. 20171122 15:23:31< wesnoth-discord-> It can fly and shoot things with impunity. 20171122 15:24:02< wesnoth-discord-> @EastGuardian for which era is this unit? 20171122 15:24:23< wesnoth-discord-> This is just me making a different unit. 20171122 15:24:31< wesnoth-discord-> I'm pitching ideas. 20171122 15:27:54< wesnoth-discord-> the free market does not exist in a vacuum. it relies on certain government protections. 20171122 15:30:47< wesnoth-discord-> @sapient_n3t agreed. It just seems like 'net neutrality' is imposing regulations that don't address consumer options 20171122 15:31:09< wesnoth-discord-> consider the free market for streaming services. if a few big ISPs have the power to decide winners and losers in this marketplace, it is no longer free or fair 20171122 15:31:38< wesnoth-discord-> Another idea that I have is the Dawrvish Thunderbarrel. Essentially, an armored cannoneer. 20171122 15:33:59< wesnoth-discord-> If you want a unit with ranged impact damage, this is the guy. He would have a stronger ranged damaged, heavy armor and only moves at 3 hexes/turn. He still has the Dawrish mobility and defense bonuses, though. 20171122 15:37:30< wesnoth-discord-> this article has a lot more info on what's going on with net neutrality and Title II: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/07/how-title-ii-goes-beyond-net-neutrality-to-protect-internet-users-from-isps/ 20171122 15:46:29< wesnoth-discord-> TLDR version: it's the only thing saving us from horrid bundles 20171122 15:53:03< wesnoth-discord-> interesting 20171122 15:58:22-!- vladimirslavik [vslavik@nat/redhat/x-jusxiyfdjmdigtak] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20171122 17:00:17-!- Kranix [~magnus@xd520f683.cust.hiper.dk] has joined #wesnoth 20171122 17:08:18-!- soloojos [~soloojos@gateway/tor-sasl/soloojos] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171122 17:08:50-!- soloojos [~soloojos@gateway/tor-sasl/soloojos] has joined #wesnoth 20171122 17:24:52-!- Haudegen [~quassel@212-186-77-29.static.upcbusiness.at] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20171122 17:47:07-!- aeth [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20171122 17:47:44-!- aeth [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has joined #wesnoth 20171122 18:00:16-!- Bhoren [~Bhoren_wh@2a01:e0a:c:2150:8c4d:7ea1:2c5a:dd8d] has joined #wesnoth 20171122 18:00:20< wesnoth-discord-> im just saying in general 20171122 18:16:46< wesnoth-discord-> USA problems 20171122 18:26:50-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has joined #wesnoth 20171122 18:37:49< wesnoth-discord-> @Quinoa bit late but you need to buy those expensive loyals because they auto-spawn on that chapter and you don't always get keeps 20171122 18:57:19-!- vn971 [~vasya@94.158.103.15] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20171122 19:29:25-!- Narrat [~Narrat@p5DED105E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20171122 19:37:12-!- claymore [~claymore@unaffiliated/claymore] has joined #wesnoth 20171122 19:54:45< wesnoth-discord-> Lol kk I stopped playing yesterday because I had work to do so nws and ty. I don't need any elvish scouts do I? Gryphon riders are pretty meh 20171122 20:21:02-!- vultraz [uid24821@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 20171122 20:33:50-!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20171122 20:34:58-!- claymore [~claymore@unaffiliated/claymore] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20171122 20:37:59-!- Bhoren [~Bhoren_wh@2a01:e0a:c:2150:8c4d:7ea1:2c5a:dd8d] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171122 21:03:06-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20171122 21:27:27-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has joined #wesnoth 20171122 21:51:45-!- sigurdfd [sigurdfd@dynamic-acs-72-23-110-196.zoominternet.net] has joined #wesnoth 20171122 22:10:59< wesnoth-discord-> i have a question, how easy is it to make a custom ability in this language, is it a better way than restarting the whole game over and over again? 😄 20171122 22:11:43< wesnoth-discord-> i just got back into goofing around in here :p 20171122 22:11:43< wesnoth-discord-> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/383016718760673280/coding_bullshit.png 20171122 22:14:00< wesnoth-discord-> You can quit to the title screen and press F5 to reload the game files. 20171122 22:14:41-!- Bonobo [~Bonobo@14-203-49-124.tpgi.com.au] has joined #wesnoth 20171122 22:17:06-!- Kranix [~magnus@xd520f683.cust.hiper.dk] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20171122 22:17:43< wesnoth-discord-> i do that all the time, i guess theres no tools i can use to make factions 20171122 22:52:35-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20171122 22:54:51-!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has joined #wesnoth 20171122 23:03:57-!- Ravana_ [~Ravana@unaffiliated/ravana/x-2327071] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20171122 23:08:20-!- Ravana_ [~Ravana@unaffiliated/ravana/x-2327071] has joined #wesnoth 20171122 23:14:27-!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20171122 23:20:28-!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has joined #wesnoth 20171122 23:23:41-!- vultraz [uid24821@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has joined #wesnoth 20171122 23:29:50-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has joined #wesnoth 20171122 23:44:06-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] --- Log closed Thu Nov 23 00:00:29 2017