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That’s awesome to hear! Thank you! 20171130 05:02:49< wesnoth-discord-> The old way seemed to work well, where the player could narrow down what units to display 20171130 05:03:14< wesnoth-discord-> yeah, I'll probably use some form of narrowing it down, just not sure what 20171130 05:03:53< wesnoth-discord-> and that's the real trick at this point. 20171130 05:04:16< wesnoth-discord-> Well the old one allowed you to narrow down by levels, factions, and chaotic/lawful/neutral/twilight 20171130 05:05:59< wesnoth-discord-> But I’m not sure how hard that’d be, considering I’m just a user 20171130 05:09:11< wesnoth-discord-> not necessary hard, it'd just take time to bolt in the filters, 20171130 05:09:30-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Quit: KABOOM! It seems that I have exploded. Please wait while I reinstall the universe.] 20171130 05:10:26< wesnoth-discord-> and I need to figure out what the interface would look like. 20171130 05:10:57< wesnoth-discord-> not sure how long it will take me, hopefully by the end of the year 20171130 05:12:33-!- sigurdfd [sigurdfd@dynamic-acs-72-23-110-196.zoominternet.net] has quit [] 20171130 05:20:31-!- Bonobo [~Bonobo@203.63.76.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20171130 05:20:54-!- Bonobo [~Bonobo@203.63.76.34] has joined #wesnoth 20171130 05:40:17< wesnoth-discord-> " You also should have time to claim the best pieces of terrain ahead of time" Oh, so I shouldn't turtle at the castle when I get the chance? 20171130 06:03:10-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@103.240.127.35] has joined #wesnoth 20171130 06:05:45-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@103.240.127.35] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171130 06:07:55-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@103.240.127.35] has joined #wesnoth 20171130 06:08:01-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@103.240.127.35] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171130 06:12:00-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@103.240.127.35] has joined #wesnoth 20171130 06:12:06-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@103.240.127.35] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171130 06:14:20-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@103.240.127.35] has joined #wesnoth 20171130 06:14:41-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@103.240.127.35] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171130 06:15:05-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@103.240.127.35] has joined #wesnoth 20171130 06:15:29-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@103.240.127.35] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171130 06:16:55-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@103.240.127.35] has joined #wesnoth 20171130 06:21:09-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@103.240.127.35] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171130 06:21:35-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@103.240.127.35] has joined #wesnoth 20171130 06:21:47-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@103.240.127.35] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171130 06:22:05-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@103.240.127.35] has joined #wesnoth 20171130 06:22:11-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@103.240.127.35] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171130 06:22:36-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@103.240.127.35] has joined #wesnoth 20171130 06:23:33-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@103.240.127.35] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171130 06:23:55-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@103.240.127.35] has joined #wesnoth 20171130 06:24:11-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@103.240.127.35] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171130 06:24:45-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@103.240.127.35] has joined #wesnoth 20171130 06:24:50-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@103.240.127.35] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171130 06:38:25< wesnoth-discord-> my fucking god i am about to throw something 3 master archer miss with a 4x70% chance every fucking shot and the charging lancer fucking hits every single one with a 2x40% he even would have another chance but no fuck that he doesn't even need that one 20171130 06:39:08< wesnoth-discord-> was that civil? 20171130 06:51:51< wesnoth-discord-> one time I had an ulfserker miss 31 attacks in a row against a chaos invoker 20171130 06:52:19< wesnoth-discord-> so at least you're not at that stage yet 20171130 06:52:45< wesnoth-discord-> I have seen it happen before. 20171130 06:54:30-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20171130 06:55:37< wesnoth-discord-> hell you sound fucking empty inside 20171130 06:58:07< wesnoth-discord-> Hence me giving some units the ability to hit shit at 100% accuracy. 20171130 06:58:44< wesnoth-discord-> that sounds like the wrong aproach 20171130 06:58:57< wesnoth-discord-> Because me and RNG hate each other. 20171130 07:00:19< wesnoth-discord-> Has anyone here ever completed the rise of wesnoth campaign on challenging difficulty? seems impossible to me to be honest 20171130 07:02:16< wesnoth-discord-> or I may want to start save quitting everytime bad rng happens is that the way you are supposed to play campaigns? 20171130 07:05:53< zookeeper> of course it isn't. and sure, plenty of people have beaten TRoW on hardest. 20171130 07:06:11< wesnoth-discord-> 100% accuracy leads to Satanic things. It's fun when you have it, but 7-3 at 100% is guaranteed 21 damage, and it all goes downhill from there. 20171130 07:07:08< wesnoth-discord-> @adramolokh how so? 20171130 07:10:37< wesnoth-discord-> I kinda wanna see a replay or two of those guys, my decision making is severely influenced by rng fucking me over 20171130 07:15:00< wesnoth-discord-> An enemy's chance to miss can be your unit's chances of surviving. Take an Elvish Shaman with 10 remaining HP, up against, I don't know, a Swordsman with a 7-3 attack. Imagine that Delfador bursts out of nowhere. In one world, the Swordsman gains magical, in another, they gain always hit. 20171130 07:15:17< wesnoth-discord-> In the first world, your Elvish Shaman might maybe survive. 20171130 07:15:32< wesnoth-discord-> It's not likely, but they can do it. 20171130 07:15:46< wesnoth-discord-> In the second world, they're fucked. 20171130 07:17:18< wesnoth-discord-> They will take 21 damage, and there's no chance of you surviving it. You don't have a chance of slipping out of the situation, you're definitely fucked and being definitely fucked is a far worse feeling than being probably fucked in my opinion. 20171130 07:17:55< wesnoth-discord-> Perhaps it sucks more to have a chance, then have that chance disappear, I don't know. 20171130 07:20:12< wesnoth-discord-> On the player's side of having 100% hit, once you get into a situation where an enemy has less than your attack's HP and can't kill you back, you click attack and rat-a-tat-tat -- they're dead! 20171130 07:21:02< wesnoth-discord-> I don't personally find that very fun. 20171130 07:23:32< wesnoth-discord-> Yeah, it gets old. 20171130 07:23:59< wesnoth-discord-> Still, it's a lot better than a battle being more of RNG. 20171130 07:37:07-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@103.240.127.35] has joined #wesnoth 20171130 07:37:53-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@103.240.127.35] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171130 07:38:41-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@103.240.127.35] has joined #wesnoth 20171130 07:38:59-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@103.240.127.35] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171130 07:39:41-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@103.240.127.35] has joined #wesnoth 20171130 07:41:18-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@103.240.127.35] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171130 07:46:02-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@103.240.127.35] has joined #wesnoth 20171130 07:46:11-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@103.240.127.35] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171130 07:47:47-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@103.240.127.35] has joined #wesnoth 20171130 07:47:48-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@103.240.127.35] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171130 07:48:17-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@103.240.127.35] has joined #wesnoth 20171130 07:48:25-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@103.240.127.35] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171130 07:48:54-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@103.240.127.35] has joined #wesnoth 20171130 07:49:35-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@103.240.127.35] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171130 07:50:07-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@103.240.127.35] has joined #wesnoth 20171130 07:51:14-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@103.240.127.35] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171130 07:51:44-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@103.240.127.35] has joined #wesnoth 20171130 07:51:48-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@103.240.127.35] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171130 07:52:19-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@103.240.127.35] has joined #wesnoth 20171130 07:55:00-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@103.240.127.35] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171130 07:56:05-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@103.240.127.35] has joined #wesnoth 20171130 07:56:29-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@103.240.127.35] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171130 07:56:57-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@103.240.127.35] has joined #wesnoth 20171130 07:57:16-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@103.240.127.35] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171130 07:57:42-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@103.240.127.35] has joined #wesnoth 20171130 07:57:53-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@103.240.127.35] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171130 08:07:04-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@103.240.127.35] has joined #wesnoth 20171130 08:08:47-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@103.240.127.35] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171130 08:23:12-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has joined #wesnoth 20171130 08:43:39< wesnoth-discord-> Well I had a good experience with rng as my bowman was at 5 hp but managed to dodge the lv 3 orc trying to hit him, then dodge and kill a zombie who attacked next and upgraded to a longbowman in that instant. Also got to the end of the survival map with just the Dragon and yeti left and now know white mages and heavy infantry should should my focus to win. 20171130 09:04:43-!- vladimirslavik [~vslavik@95.82.135.184] has joined #wesnoth 20171130 09:39:39-!- Elsi [~Elsi@luwin.ulrar.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20171130 09:50:13-!- Elsi [~Elsi@luwin.ulrar.net] has joined #wesnoth 20171130 09:53:03-!- Bonobo [~Bonobo@203.63.76.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20171130 10:06:11-!- Elsi [~Elsi@luwin.ulrar.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20171130 10:08:32-!- yaiyan [~yaiyan@46.101.48.31] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20171130 10:10:04-!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: vultraz 20171130 10:11:44-!- yaiyan [~yaiyan@46.101.48.31] has joined #wesnoth 20171130 10:15:30-!- Netsplit over, joins: vultraz 20171130 11:01:11-!- synthpopisback [~synthpopi@cpe-2606-A000-7947-5000-76-31AB-338D-2AC8.dyn6.twc.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20171130 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Did anybody encounter units with "petrifies" special ability? What does it do? 20171130 14:13:14< wesnoth-discord-> A petrified unit simply can't do anything, until/unless the petrify status is removed afterwards. 20171130 14:17:00< vn971> jyrkive, so by default, it stays petrified forever (unless someone un-petrifies it explicitly)? it's not auto un-petrified next turn? 20171130 14:17:17< wesnoth-discord-> Yes, petrification is permanent. 20171130 14:19:30< vn971> jyrkive, thank you! 20171130 14:26:20-!- soloojos [~soloojos@gateway/tor-sasl/soloojos] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20171130 14:39:39-!- soloojos [~soloojos@gateway/tor-sasl/soloojos] has joined #wesnoth 20171130 15:41:22-!- soloojos [~soloojos@gateway/tor-sasl/soloojos] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171130 15:42:09-!- soloojos [~soloojos@gateway/tor-sasl/soloojos] has joined #wesnoth 20171130 15:50:27< wesnoth-discord-> petrified unit still can use some abilities which is funny 20171130 15:50:54< wesnoth-discord-> eg nightstalk 20171130 16:04:16-!- Kranix [~magnus@xd520f683.cust.hiper.dk] has joined #wesnoth 20171130 16:12:25-!- Bonobo [~Bonobo@203.63.76.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20171130 16:25:33-!- synthpopisback [~synthpopi@cpe-2606-A000-7947-5000-76-31AB-338D-2AC8.dyn6.twc.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20171130 16:25:56-!- synthpopisback [~synthpopi@cpe-2606-A000-7947-5000-85BD-5952-8496-E67E.dyn6.twc.com] has joined #wesnoth 20171130 16:30:10-!- Haudegen [~quassel@212-186-77-29.static.upcbusiness.at] has joined #wesnoth 20171130 16:36:26< wesnoth-discord-> oh that's cool 20171130 16:36:40< wesnoth-discord-> time to use that to jumpscare people 20171130 16:47:23< wesnoth-discord-> a stealthy statue 😹 20171130 16:54:51< vn971> it can ambush unexpecting heroes. Probably those that were born long after this unit transformed into statue. 20171130 16:55:24< vn971> (Or I'm making this up, I don't actually know whether ambush works. Should though, if nightstalk works.) 20171130 16:58:01-!- vultraz [uid24821@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has joined #wesnoth 20171130 17:06:50-!- sevu [~Shiki@rzsl2.rz.htwk-leipzig.de] has joined #wesnoth 20171130 17:37:05-!- sigurdfd [sigurdfd@dynamic-acs-72-23-110-196.zoominternet.net] has joined #wesnoth 20171130 18:28:56-!- sevu [~Shiki@rzsl2.rz.htwk-leipzig.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171130 19:08:13< wesnoth-discord-> @Kiiviing_Ziindal Found a quick way to fix Custom Campaign without using filters, so a new version is now on the add-on server. 20171130 19:08:34< wesnoth-discord-> Really? Awesome! that's amazing to hear! Thank you! 20171130 19:08:48< wesnoth-discord-> You're welcome 20171130 20:02:21-!- soloojos [~soloojos@gateway/tor-sasl/soloojos] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171130 20:03:49-!- soloojos [~soloojos@gateway/tor-sasl/soloojos] has joined #wesnoth 20171130 20:07:36-!- Narrat [~Narrat@p5DCC6A81.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20171130 20:12:54-!- sigurdfd [sigurdfd@dynamic-acs-72-23-110-196.zoominternet.net] has quit [] 20171130 20:17:29< wesnoth-discord-> Jumpscare nightstalk-ambush-hides statues? 20171130 20:17:31< wesnoth-discord-> Beautiful. 20171130 20:20:29< vn971> BTW, I made quite a lot of new features for wesnoth development version. If anybody's willing to play and test them out, write me.) 20171130 20:21:08< vn971> * sorry, I mean Creep Wars map specifically. 20171130 20:21:15< vn971> not wesnoth itself 20171130 20:41:35-!- vladimirslavik [~vslavik@95.82.135.184] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20171130 21:10:25-!- soloojos [~soloojos@gateway/tor-sasl/soloojos] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171130 21:27:54-!- soloojos [~soloojos@gateway/tor-sasl/soloojos] has joined #wesnoth 20171130 21:37:52-!- Kranix [~magnus@xd520f683.cust.hiper.dk] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20171130 21:52:38-!- soloojos [~soloojos@gateway/tor-sasl/soloojos] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171130 21:53:05-!- soloojos [~soloojos@gateway/tor-sasl/soloojos] has joined #wesnoth 20171130 22:10:44-!- soloojos [~soloojos@gateway/tor-sasl/soloojos] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171130 22:11:07-!- soloojos [~soloojos@gateway/tor-sasl/soloojos] has joined #wesnoth 20171130 23:19:47-!- Bonobo [~Bonobo@203.63.76.34] has joined #wesnoth 20171130 23:29:43-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has joined #wesnoth --- Log closed Fri Dec 01 00:00:39 2017