--- Log opened Wed Dec 06 00:00:49 2017 20171206 00:10:26-!- vn971 [~vasya@94.158.103.15] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20171206 00:33:47-!- Greg-Boggs [~greg_bogg@173.240.241.83] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171206 00:44:22< irker804> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 3f6738ecc860 / src/help/help.cpp: Fixup de1a9724ebe89c8da9 (fixes #2276) https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/3f6738ecc860f8cf25bbf88aff23f3a341d59591 20171206 00:48:57-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20171206 00:59:34-!- travis-ci [~travis-ci@ec2-54-147-57-66.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20171206 00:59:35< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#15940 (master - 4dda0ad : kallaballa): The build passed. 20171206 00:59:35< travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/312126227 20171206 00:59:35-!- travis-ci [~travis-ci@ec2-54-147-57-66.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has left #wesnoth-dev [] 20171206 01:09:39-!- lobby [~wesnoth@wesnoth/bot/lobby] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20171206 01:09:39-!- Topic for #wesnoth-dev: 1.13.11 (1.14 Beta 3) postponed until bug #2203 is fixed | Wesnoth Developers Channel | >>> Want to help? Go here: https://r.wesnoth.org/t42911 (and thanks!) <<< | Discord Server: https://discord.gg/tSmJS2E | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Bug tracker: https://bugs.wesnoth.org 20171206 01:09:39-!- Topic set by vultraz [uid24821@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] [Sat Nov 18 10:00:00 2017] 20171206 01:09:39[Users #wesnoth-dev] 20171206 01:09:39[ aeth ] [ DeFender ] [ heirecka ] [ midzer ] [ Rhonda ] [ vincent_c ] 20171206 01:09:39[ AI0867 ] [ desttinghim[m] ] [ higgins ] [ minzbonbon ] [ senkwich ] [ vn971 ] 20171206 01:09:39[ aidanhs ] [ elias ] [ Ivanovic ] [ Necrosporus] [ shadowm ] [ vultraz ] 20171206 01:09:39[ APic ] [ EliDupree ] [ iwaim_ ] [ new_one ] [ Soap__ ] [ wedge009 ] 20171206 01:09:39[ Appleman1234 ] [ Elvish_Hunter ] [ janebot ] [ NicolasF[m]] [ Soliton ] [ yaiyan ] 20171206 01:09:39[ Bonobo ] [ Emerald_Witch ] [ Jetrel_bot ] [ nore ] [ stikonas ] [ zacklocx[m]] 20171206 01:09:39[ celticminstrel ] [ esr ] [ lobby ] [ nurupo ] [ TadCarlucci] [ zookeeper ] 20171206 01:09:39[ ChipmunkV[m] ] [ fabi ] [ loonycyborg ] [ oldlaptop ] [ TC01 ] 20171206 01:09:39[ commavir ] [ galegosimpatico] [ madmax28 ] [ Polsaker ] [ TheJJ ] 20171206 01:09:39[ crimson_penguin] [ Gambit ] [ matthiaskrgr] [ pydsigner ] [ timotei__ ] 20171206 01:09:39[ DDR ] [ Greg_Boggs[m] ] [ mattsc ] [ Ravana_ ] [ tomreyn ] 20171206 01:09:39-!- Irssi: #wesnoth-dev: Total of 62 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 62 normal] 20171206 01:09:42-!- Channel #wesnoth-dev created Tue Jan 27 05:28:41 2009 20171206 01:10:39-!- Irssi: Join to #wesnoth-dev was synced in 70 secs 20171206 01:16:00< TadCarlucci> celticminstrel, mattsc, PR 2277 is your revert can you check it on macOS while Travis grinds on it? 20171206 01:22:12-!- Greg-Boggs [~greg_bogg@173.240.241.83] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20171206 01:22:24< celticminstrel> I don't even know if I can build on OSX anymore... 20171206 01:22:43< celticminstrel> I suppose scons is reasonably likely to work. 20171206 01:22:54< TadCarlucci> ok 20171206 01:23:20< TadCarlucci> Well, I'll have sinda weigh in on it. He probably was involved with the original commit. 20171206 01:25:24< celticminstrel> I wonder what the Travis failure actually was though; if it's that duplicate class error, then simply renaming the SDLApplication class would likely fix it. (And of course updating the reference to it in... probably the plist file.) 20171206 01:25:47 * TadCarlucci shrugs. 20171206 01:26:31< TadCarlucci> I can't do macOS so I'm flying blind. I don't remember why it was taken out. I do remebmer thinking .. "Huh?" when it was taken out. I've asked @sinda for help on discord 20171206 01:26:51-!- Greg-Boggs [~greg_bogg@173.240.241.83] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20171206 01:31:48< mattsc> TadCarlucci: I can probably try in about an hour 20171206 02:16:57-!- travis-ci [~travis-ci@ec2-54-146-222-15.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20171206 02:16:58< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#15942 (master - 3f6738e : Charles Dang): The build passed. 20171206 02:16:58< travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/312163630 20171206 02:16:59-!- travis-ci [~travis-ci@ec2-54-146-222-15.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has left #wesnoth-dev [] 20171206 02:34:49< mattsc> TadCarlucci: yes, it works again with PR 2277 20171206 02:35:07< mattsc> Both by clicking on the icon and from the CL without the data-dir option. 20171206 02:36:22< vultraz> good god 20171206 02:36:27< vultraz> :| 20171206 02:37:45< mattsc> vultraz: It wasn’t _that_ bad having to test it two different ways ;) 20171206 02:38:07< vultraz> it saddens me that that hacky code is still needed 20171206 02:39:10< TadCarlucci> Dunno it's "hacky" I remember when I first saw it I did some research and it seemed sorta the way macOS was. Just an Appleism as far as I can tell. 20171206 02:39:15< mattsc> I don’t know anything about the hackiness about the code, and I don’t care if you use something else that’s less hacky. But I do care when the macos build does not work any more. :) 20171206 02:41:17< TadCarlucci> OK. Final request: get with sinda/singalen .. who just answered he'll take a look at it over the next day. 20171206 02:42:18< mattsc> Okay, no worries, take whatever time you need. I do most of my AI work in 1.12 anyway. 20171206 02:42:35< vultraz> 1.12! 20171206 02:43:05< mattsc> It’s the current official version of Wesnoth. Just in case you’d forgotten. 20171206 02:43:33< TadCarlucci> But that's SO Last Year! /me chuckles. 20171206 02:44:11-!- irker504 [~irker@uruz.ai0867.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20171206 02:44:11< irker504> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master e08350cd1724 / / (16 files in 8 dirs): Revert "rebase commit: implemented a surrender dialog that records a surrender c https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/e08350cd1724619091809a91d681e627b43a3bfe 20171206 02:44:42 * mattsc seems to remember that last year was yesterday 20171206 02:46:09< mattsc> Btw, I’ve been reading up a bit about all the problems I am having with my Freelands AI. Those seem to be all the same problems that the professionals are struggling with too. :P 20171206 02:47:20< mattsc> s/same/same type of/ is probably more precise 20171206 03:07:01-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20171206 03:32:17-!- Bonobo [~Bonobo@110-175-146-248.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20171206 03:32:38-!- Bonobo [~Bonobo@110-175-146-248.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20171206 03:46:17< celticminstrel> It's definitely not required for OSX to have a class - it can just as well use the regular main() function. 20171206 03:46:45< celticminstrel> The class does provide the changelog view and one or two extra menuitems, though. 20171206 03:47:45< celticminstrel> The command-line argument that gets passed by the Finder is problematic though when you want to give an error on unknown arguments. I'm assuming that's why it didn't work without the code. 20171206 03:56:36-!- Polsaker [EotQl6MJtV@donger/wielder/Polsaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20171206 04:00:09-!- Polsaker [DAmgYl5o4g@donger/wielder/Polsaker] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20171206 04:01:32-!- tomreyn [~tomreyn@megaglest/team/tomreyn] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20171206 04:01:40-!- tomreyn [~tomreyn@megaglest/team/tomreyn] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20171206 04:13:51-!- Bonobo [~Bonobo@110-175-146-248.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20171206 04:14:03-!- Bonobo [~Bonobo@110-175-146-248.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20171206 05:00:55-!- Greg-Boggs [~greg_bogg@173.240.241.83] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20171206 05:05:05-!- Greg-Boggs [~greg_bogg@173.240.241.83] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20171206 05:27:04-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171206 05:27:15-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20171206 05:44:29-!- irker504 [~irker@uruz.ai0867.net] has quit [Quit: transmission timeout] 20171206 06:16:47-!- irker370 [~irker@uruz.ai0867.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20171206 06:16:47< irker370> wesnoth/wesnoth:master Gregory A Lundberg ab07d8c879 Revert "Fix travis osx build." All builds passed 20171206 06:49:14-!- Greg-Boggs [~greg_bogg@173.240.241.83] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20171206 06:49:42< irker370> wesnoth/wesnoth:master Charles Dang 3f6738ecc8 Fixup de1a9724ebe89c8da9 (fixes #2276) All builds passed 20171206 06:53:41-!- Greg-Boggs [~greg_bogg@173.240.241.83] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20171206 06:56:11-!- JyrkiVesterinen [~JyrkiVest@85-23-197-3.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20171206 07:04:49-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Quit: KABOOM! It seems that I have exploded. Please wait while I reinstall the universe.] 20171206 07:11:13-!- Bonobo [~Bonobo@110-175-146-248.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20171206 07:11:24-!- Bonobo [~Bonobo@110-175-146-248.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20171206 07:29:28-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171206 07:29:37-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20171206 07:50:51-!- atarocch [atarocch@nat/redhat/x-kylvhobedbpyrnki] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20171206 08:37:34-!- Greg-Boggs [~greg_bogg@173.240.241.83] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20171206 08:42:03-!- Greg-Boggs [~greg_bogg@173.240.241.83] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20171206 09:24:13< vn971> Hi guys. I have a general question regarding statistics aggregation. Are there any conventions for gathering statistics from wesnoth replays http://replays.wesnoth.org/ ? 20171206 09:24:13< vn971> Here is an example plan I came up with: 1. develop an add-on that would write all statistics it needs into variables like "myaddonname_stat_name=%value%". 2. fetch all saved games from wesnoth server which had this add-on enabled, download&extract all games, grep the raw save file for "myaddonname_stat_name" and aggregate the results. 20171206 09:24:13< vn971> Did anybody already do this? Any good hints/thoughts/traps to consider? 20171206 09:28:42< vn971> Example use case: I'm developing Creep War addon. The user has multiple choices of upgrade there, and I feel that some of the alternatives are rarely chosen and could probably be re-balanced. Having real stats would help me making informed choices here. 20171206 09:34:17< irker370> wesnoth: Jyrki Vesterinen wesnoth:master aa94db4d0fbc / src/font/text.cpp: Fix: with many add-ons installed, viewing credits reduces line spacing https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/aa94db4d0fbc3b70f36945642c31613d0756bdff 20171206 09:44:57< vn971> Or, for that matter -- does anybody remember anyone doing that at all? Or it's more likely that nobody ever did that (and shared the approach)? 20171206 09:47:29< Soliton> i'm not aware of anyone gathering add-on specific statistics. 20171206 09:48:26< Soliton> not that i see anything wrong with that. 20171206 09:49:30-!- vladimirslavik [vslavik@nat/redhat/x-wbmvoyweplteznbu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20171206 09:55:11< vn971> Soliton: have you heard of gathering any stats at all? (Like units bought, or stuff like that.) 20171206 09:56:22< Soliton> someone was in here not too long ago who started some statistics gathering. maps/factions played etc. 20171206 09:57:03< Soliton> and there've been one or two other occasions longer ago. 20171206 10:01:21< vn971> Soliton: thank you. Regarding recent events -- do you mean "kallaballa" / "amir|2" ? Or was there someone else? 20171206 10:01:58< Soliton> that's what i mean. 20171206 10:08:42-!- vslavik [vslavik@nat/redhat/x-szyzyjpdivifbphj] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20171206 10:11:16-!- vladimirslavik [vslavik@nat/redhat/x-wbmvoyweplteznbu] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20171206 10:25:53-!- Greg-Boggs [~greg_bogg@173.240.241.83] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20171206 10:29:16-!- vslavik__ [vslavik@nat/redhat/x-pxiyoqajkmyuyymo] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20171206 10:30:23-!- Greg-Boggs [~greg_bogg@173.240.241.83] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20171206 10:32:05-!- vslavik [vslavik@nat/redhat/x-szyzyjpdivifbphj] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20171206 11:32:06-!- JyrkiVesterinen [~JyrkiVest@85-23-197-3.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Quit: .] 20171206 11:39:05-!- mesilliac [~mesilliac@p4FED32BD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20171206 11:45:33-!- mesilliac [~mesilliac@p4FED32BD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: mesilliac] 20171206 11:55:34-!- wedge009 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