--- Log opened Thu Dec 07 00:00:50 2017 20171207 00:04:09-!- sigurdfd [sigurdfd@dynamic-acs-72-23-110-196.zoominternet.net] has joined #wesnoth 20171207 00:06:31-!- desttinghim[m] [desttinghi@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-jsyxlyrogwcqfsxg] has joined #wesnoth 20171207 00:39:17-!- madmax28 [madmax28ma@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-qdguyfpperwhqity] has joined #wesnoth 20171207 00:44:59-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has joined #wesnoth 20171207 00:46:02< wesnoth-discord-> I fucking love you 20171207 01:50:50< wesnoth-discord-> @here Just got this server verified! If you guys want to invite friends you can now use the conveinent https://discord.gg/battleforwesnoth invite link instead of creating custom ones πŸ˜ƒ 20171207 01:51:35< wesnoth-discord-> keep doing good work vult 20171207 01:51:49< wesnoth-discord-> thanks, man 20171207 01:53:06< wesnoth-discord-> nice 20171207 01:53:25< wesnoth-discord-> Thanks.😁 20171207 01:57:28< wesnoth-discord-> @Vultraz nice, thank you. Didn't even know that was a thing 20171207 01:58:13-!- Narrat [~Narrat@p5DCC6A81.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance.] 20171207 02:55:44-!- HeyCitizen [~citizen@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/heycitizen] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171207 02:56:50-!- HeyCitizen [~citizen@sttrpq3809w-lp130-03-67-68-202-39.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #wesnoth 20171207 03:01:14-!- HeyCitizen [~citizen@sttrpq3809w-lp130-03-67-68-202-39.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20171207 03:01:23< wesnoth-discord-> nice :O 20171207 03:02:23-!- HeyCitizen [~citizen@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/heycitizen] has joined #wesnoth 20171207 03:04:32< wesnoth-discord-> @YoshiFTW nice tits bud 20171207 03:04:43< wesnoth-discord-> thanks 20171207 03:30:41-!- ArneBab [~quassel@freenet/developer/arnebab] has joined #wesnoth 20171207 03:34:51-!- ArneBab_ [~quassel@freenet/developer/arnebab] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20171207 03:42:44-!- sigurdfd [sigurdfd@dynamic-acs-72-23-110-196.zoominternet.net] has quit [] 20171207 03:43:07-!- soloojos [~soloojos@gateway/tor-sasl/soloojos] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171207 03:50:26-!- soloojos [~soloojos@gateway/tor-sasl/soloojos] has joined #wesnoth 20171207 03:57:30< wesnoth-discord-> I agree they look wholesome 20171207 03:57:36< wesnoth-discord-> but 2d so 😦 feels bad 20171207 04:01:23< wesnoth-discord-> 3d feels bad too 20171207 04:01:30< wesnoth-discord-> unless they're on a man 20171207 04:03:46< wesnoth-discord-> personally i only find feminine traits attractive when they're on a man 20171207 04:04:45< wesnoth-discord-> because i'm incredibly closeted about these things, i mean that's normal right? 20171207 04:06:23< wesnoth-discord-> Can this not be a thing that is being discussed on this server? Thanks. 20171207 04:09:46< wesnoth-discord-> all right, sorry. i'll keep the jokes to DMs 20171207 04:11:12-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Quit: KABOOM! It seems that I have exploded. Please wait while I reinstall the universe.] 20171207 04:13:25< wesnoth-discord-> Hrrm. I'm working a faction based on iron age Britain. Chariots, warriors in woad paint, bards, that sort of thing. Does anyone know of some unit sprites that might fit that theme I could use for playtesting? 20171207 04:15:59-!- soloojos [~soloojos@gateway/tor-sasl/soloojos] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171207 04:16:21-!- soloojos [~soloojos@gateway/tor-sasl/soloojos] has joined #wesnoth 20171207 04:29:47< janebot> Tweet (by @Wesnoth) Just got our Discord server verified! Come join us if you haven't already! :D https://discord.gg/battleforwesnoth #gaming [ https://twitter.com/Wesnoth/status/938626564354277376 ] 20171207 04:33:39< janebot> Tweet (by @Wesnoth) (RT @konjak) My long-term, life-commanding game "Iconoclasts" FINALLY has a release date! I hope this animated trailer will get… [ https://twitter.com/Wesnoth/status/938627539949326337 ] 20171207 04:37:24< wesnoth-discord-> @Grickit request to make janebot a proper discord bot πŸ˜› 20171207 04:38:11< wesnoth-discord-> Why? It works fine this way. 20171207 04:39:44< wesnoth-discord-> would be nicer not to have the IRC bits 20171207 04:41:18< wesnoth-discord-> (Right, I should keep in mind that you're the developer who always wants to R E F A C T O R ... πŸ˜’ ) 20171207 04:53:43< wesnoth-discord-> :run: 20171207 05:25:46< wesnoth-discord-> :bowman: 20171207 05:50:46< wesnoth-discord-> πŸ‘Œ 20171207 06:25:42< wesnoth-discord-> Hey, new emoticon. 😁 20171207 06:35:54< wesnoth-discord-> just the one, though 20171207 06:36:00< wesnoth-discord-> i welcome any ideas for others 20171207 06:48:30< wesnoth-discord-> Garruk going suicidal ;) 20171207 07:45:15-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20171207 09:39:30-!- vladimirslavik [vslavik@nat/redhat/x-wpkkjsaqhlriwyfv] has joined #wesnoth 20171207 10:27:36< wesnoth-discord-> i think an spanish server would be nice 20171207 13:02:58< wesnoth-discord-> @Grandos#7916 look at the Imperial Era and the Orbivm work for sprites 20171207 13:03:40< wesnoth-discord-> @Grandos look at the Imperial Era and the Orbivm work for sprites 20171207 13:32:35-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171207 13:32:48-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20171207 13:36:34< wesnoth-discord-> @Turuk that's a good idea. A Frankenstein-ing and mixing of say... Mauraders, Sidhe and Arendians sprites might work well. Thank you. 20171207 13:37:28< wesnoth-discord-> Yes, that way you aren’t having to work from@scratch and some of the units may be close to what you want. 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always only a Pyrrus victory 20171207 19:14:54< gaazkam> The losses are extremely heavy 20171207 19:15:07< gaazkam> Any tips? 20171207 19:17:47-!- desttinghim[m] [desttinghi@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-xlabkbdtftibtior] has joined #wesnoth 20171207 19:32:10< Soliton> too little time? lack of gold? lack of units? too strong enemy? 20171207 19:33:33-!- madmax28 [madmax28ma@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-tgnckgmiazwlhenk] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20171207 19:33:50-!- desttinghim[m] [desttinghi@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-xlabkbdtftibtior] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20171207 19:38:04-!- HeyCitizen [~citizen@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/heycitizen] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171207 19:50:44-!- Narrat [~Narrat@p5DCC6A81.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20171207 19:56:56< gaazkam> Lack of units? I don't think I can bring more from the prev two levels 20171207 19:57:16< gaazkam> Lack of gold? Not sure how can I finish scenario2 faster 20171207 19:57:34< gaazkam> Lack of time? That's tight, but should be enough 20171207 19:57:40< gaazkam> Too strong enemy? I guess so 20171207 20:33:18< Soliton> if you can post a replay i could perhaps give some tips. or if you have a start-of-scenario save i could try it and post a replay. 20171207 20:56:59-!- claymore [~claymore@unaffiliated/claymore] has joined #wesnoth 20171207 21:06:40-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has joined #wesnoth 20171207 21:14:52-!- soloojos [~soloojos@gateway/tor-sasl/soloojos] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20171207 21:27:45-!- soloojos [~soloojos@gateway/tor-sasl/soloojos] has joined #wesnoth 20171207 21:31:15< wesnoth-discord-> what doies verified mean? 20171207 21:31:47< wesnoth-discord-> verified discord 20171207 21:31:48< wesnoth-discord-> server 20171207 21:43:06-!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: Vadatajs, MadMerlin, vultraz 20171207 21:48:20-!- Netsplit over, joins: vultraz, Vadatajs, MadMerlin 20171207 21:48:27< wesnoth-discord-> @shadowm @Jetrel Are you there? 20171207 21:57:48< wesnoth-discord-> It means that you have a custom and personalised invite, as far as I can tell. 20171207 22:05:24< wesnoth-discord-> @shadowm @Jetrel I just want to tell you that I am sorry for the bad things I have said about you. 20171207 22:05:31< wesnoth-discord-> @Jetrel nmake no mistake I still think your central philosophy that artwork exists purely to be eyecandy and everything else is "myopic nerdery" (so the art should not serve as carrier of as much ingame information to the player as effectively as possible, it is a wasted effort... i do not think it is a waste effort i think it is the most important goal for game art), is idiotic and toxic and the worst thing that is the 20171207 22:05:32< wesnoth-discord-> biggest problem with how video games are today in general, espcecially 3d games. And much of creeping biggerism can be blamed on you. But that is only because you have stuck around enough anc contributed enough that it could possible be blamed on you! not much about Wesnoth could be blamed on me just because I have not done all that much for it anyway. just how long have you stuck around, how many other primarily art contributors have 20171207 22:05:32< wesnoth-discord-> stuck around nearly as long as you? LITERALLY NONE, right? Looking at the forum, Doofus is still around but his contributions are kind of meh 20171207 22:05:50< wesnoth-discord-> @shadowm and I think still that UTBS ruins Wesnoth and it should not be made "bigger" by the adventures of Analia 20171207 22:05:54< wesnoth-discord-> but. 20171207 22:06:00< wesnoth-discord-> the older ive gotten, the more i see things in the light that sticking around, perseverence, is more important than anything 20171207 22:06:13< wesnoth-discord-> Its perseverence of one type that makes some people spend day after day exercising while they build up muscles, while other like me remain unremarkable 20171207 22:06:19< wesnoth-discord-> same with not cheating on women, same with studyinga any subject matter 20171207 22:06:25< wesnoth-discord-> and there is a perseverence of another kind that makes people stick around a project for 10 years while others like me get irritated with how not every person on earth sees all things the exact way that I see things, and then I grow angry at myself for having contributed to that alien mollusc in the first place and beg to be thrown out, it is retarded of me but ultimately it is a question fo perseverence which is obviously 20171207 22:06:25< wesnoth-discord-> respectable by itself, but i think i did not respect it enough 5 or 10 years ago. 20171207 22:06:26< wesnoth-discord-> @blarumyrran, LANGUAGE!!!😑 20171207 22:06:49< wesnoth-discord-> and there is a perseverence of another kind that makes people stick around a project for 10 years while others like me get irritated with how not every person on earth sees all things the exact way that I see things, and then I grow angry at myself for having contributed to that alien mollusc in the first place and beg to be thrown out, it is idiotic of me but ultimately it is a question fo perseverence which is obviously 20171207 22:06:50< wesnoth-discord-> respectable by itself, but i think i did not respect it enough 5 or 10 years ago. 20171207 22:07:05< wesnoth-discord-> If anything, I thought of perseverence as a kind of stupidity, a specific kind of stupidity 20171207 22:07:36< wesnoth-discord-> it is bit like 20171207 22:08:12< wesnoth-discord-> there was a single-player computer game, a billiard game 20171207 22:08:19< wesnoth-discord-> lmao what is this 20171207 22:08:36< wesnoth-discord-> I used to play it a lot, and sometimes my sister watched on and made remarks that: 20171207 22:08:53< wesnoth-discord-> You seemingly make a move each turn, for that turn's sake 20171207 22:09:19< wesnoth-discord-> and it seemed like idiotic commentary to me, because, of course each turn you evaluate the game board and make the optimal move based on the game-state 20171207 22:09:39< wesnoth-discord-> I have no idea what you're talking about because I don't want to make Wesnoth bigger with my campaigns. 20171207 22:09:46< wesnoth-discord-> well 20171207 22:09:57< wesnoth-discord-> your campaigns are based on utbs, i did not mean literally bigger 20171207 22:10:02< wesnoth-discord-> I specifically forbid the devs from mainlining them. 20171207 22:10:11< wesnoth-discord-> iu meant that you exapand the UTBS's importance 20171207 22:10:20< wesnoth-discord-> since they are so widely played 20171207 22:10:26< wesnoth-discord-> lol so widely played. 20171207 22:10:32< wesnoth-discord-> aren't they? 20171207 22:10:43< wesnoth-discord-> You must be working with some false information there. 20171207 22:10:47< wesnoth-discord-> 😦 20171207 22:11:13< wesnoth-discord-> If they were so widely played I'd still not be at exactly 0 posts of feedback wrt to important gameplay changes I made three months ago. 20171207 22:11:57< wesnoth-discord-> it does seem likely that by now everyone that wanted to play it has played it, and there are few people who likely replaying things at all 20171207 22:12:00< wesnoth-discord-> Also I don't care about any of this anymore tbh. I don't remember what your issue was in the first place other than deciding to disrupt channels with nonsensical rants about nothing in particular. 20171207 22:12:06< wesnoth-discord-> probably a new wave after steam 20171207 22:12:27< wesnoth-discord-> As long as that never happens again I have nothing to do with any of this. 20171207 22:12:34< wesnoth-discord-> that is good 20171207 22:12:39< wesnoth-discord-> you are good @shadowm 20171207 22:14:07< wesnoth-discord-> anyway I was playing this singleplayer billiard game - and while it is true that within each turn you should make the optimal move based on that turn's game state, 20171207 22:15:16< wesnoth-discord-> every single thing you do latches on to you - since you only care for the current turn and specifically train yourself for that, you forget about the long term, i think the problem is 20171207 22:15:58< wesnoth-discord-> that people, like me, think that the real "I" is a decisionmaking mechanism 20171207 22:16:34< wesnoth-discord-> and it is stable and untouchable, and you just keep on making decisions, but actually you are always slowly training it 20171207 22:17:21< wesnoth-discord-> if it is optimal to focus on the current turn always, then you appreach each turn that way, and are slowly training yourself not to look ahead enough 20171207 22:17:59< wesnoth-discord-> all in all i really respect wi9th no irony or anthinhg like that, how long you have stuck around @shadowm and @Jetrel ! 20171207 22:18:21< wesnoth-discord-> And That is a very great show of very good character which i for example lack. 20171207 22:18:54-!- claymore [~claymore@unaffiliated/claymore] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20171207 22:21:57-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20171207 22:23:36< wesnoth-discord-> i could not even compelte that Dward Guardsman commission 20171207 22:25:36-!- Kranix [~magnus@xd520f683.cust.hiper.dk] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20171207 22:26:43-!- soloojos [~soloojos@gateway/tor-sasl/soloojos] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171207 22:27:19-!- soloojos [~soloojos@gateway/tor-sasl/soloojos] has joined #wesnoth 20171207 22:30:11< gaazkam> wow, that's a wall of text. Cba to read through all of this, sorry 20171207 22:30:46< gaazkam> Soliton: Too bad I deleted a recent failed attempt... No time at the moment, but in two days I should post a replay on the forums, OK? Thank you 20171207 22:37:03-!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: Vadatajs, MadMerlin, vultraz 20171207 22:38:56< wesnoth-discord-> Man, you sure you don't need psychiatrist help? xD 20171207 22:42:11-!- Netsplit over, joins: vultraz, Vadatajs, MadMerlin 20171207 22:44:36-!- soloojos [~soloojos@gateway/tor-sasl/soloojos] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171207 22:45:02-!- soloojos [~soloojos@gateway/tor-sasl/soloojos] has joined #wesnoth 20171207 22:45:44< wesnoth-discord-> A deeper understanding of what things are and how they work, and who should be appraised and who not, is not something that "need psychiatrist help". 20171207 23:00:33< wesnoth-discord-> @blarumyrran "brevity is wit". 20171207 23:02:59-!- DreadKnight [~DreadKnig@unaffiliated/dreadknight] has joined #wesnoth 20171207 23:03:39< wesnoth-discord-> Are you an individual who enjoys trolling? you confuse me 20171207 23:05:37< Soliton> gaazkam: well, did a quick run. replays of the first 3 scenarios: http://files.wesnoth.org/soliton/Liberty/ 20171207 23:06:08< gaazkam> Soliton: why thank you! 20171207 23:06:13-!- soloojos [~soloojos@gateway/tor-sasl/soloojos] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171207 23:06:38-!- soloojos [~soloojos@gateway/tor-sasl/soloojos] has joined #wesnoth 20171207 23:06:59< Soliton> that's with 1.12 which i assume you're playing as well. 20171207 23:07:34< gaazkam> y 20171207 23:08:02-!- gaazkam [~gaazkam@89-77-194-225.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20171207 23:43:03-!- soloojos [~soloojos@gateway/tor-sasl/soloojos] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171207 23:44:22-!- soloojos [~soloojos@gateway/tor-sasl/soloojos] has joined #wesnoth --- Log closed Fri Dec 08 00:00:52 2017