--- Log opened Wed Dec 13 00:00:59 2017 20171213 00:24:03-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171213 01:20:31-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20171213 01:29:11-!- aeth [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20171213 01:30:11-!- aeth [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has joined #wesnoth 20171213 01:58:37-!- Narrat [~Narrat@p5DCC6A81.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance.] 20171213 02:54:01< wesnoth-discord-> Would a unit ability making it treat magic attacks as normal for dodging purposes be possible? 20171213 02:54:22< wesnoth-discord-> yes 20171213 02:54:42< wesnoth-discord-> but you may need to do it as an event based ability 20171213 02:54:56< wesnoth-discord-> I don't know for sure if you can do it with built in tags 20171213 02:55:01< wesnoth-discord-> I don't think you can 20171213 02:57:00< Ravana_> if you only want to modify core magical, you can undef it and define new version that gives 70% only if target unit does not have your ability 20171213 02:57:45< wesnoth-discord-> Ravana that seems a little much. XD I'm going to attempt a faction that's semi-balanced with mainline. 20171213 02:57:57< wesnoth-discord-> @Yumi Good info. 20171213 02:58:31< wesnoth-discord-> One of this faction's unit lines is basically a mage-killing swordsman. I may just give them high fire/cold resitances. 20171213 02:58:33< wesnoth-discord-> hmm my first instinct was to use the FORCE_CHANCE_TO_HIT macro 20171213 02:58:43< wesnoth-discord-> or whatever it is, it might not be that exact syntax 20171213 02:59:48< Ravana_> then chance to hit can only be changed with events or with weapons specials, not with ability 20171213 03:00:16< wesnoth-discord-> right so you would use it in combat events 20171213 03:00:37< wesnoth-discord-> but your solution seems better 20171213 03:00:56< Ravana_> I would actually use unit placed, and modify magical special to filter for that ability 20171213 03:01:32< Ravana_> then cth calculations are still correct 20171213 03:06:46< wesnoth-discord-> Okay, so that's how to do it in WML, but how would this be balanced in gameplay? Should the Anti-magic unit be quite weak otherwise? Would it be too powerful to give it decent resitances and the ability to dodge magic? 20171213 03:07:11< wesnoth-discord-> I would argue that having high resistances defeats the purpose of having the ability 20171213 03:07:16< wesnoth-discord-> That's true... 20171213 03:07:29< wesnoth-discord-> High resistance would be much simpler too. XD 20171213 03:24:52-!- ArneBab_ [~quassel@freenet/developer/arnebab] has joined #wesnoth 20171213 03:28:57-!- ArneBab [~quassel@freenet/developer/arnebab] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20171213 05:05:04-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171213 05:05:10-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20171213 06:06:45-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171213 06:07:00-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20171213 07:23:12< wesnoth-discord-> Haha, using the Ogre Battles mod with the new land map makes it feel like a completely different game.😁 Loving it! 20171213 07:28:44< wesnoth-discord-> @bumbadadabum What makes Wesnoth easier to compile on Arch than Ubuntu(I've never used Arch)? 20171213 08:08:08-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20171213 08:11:12-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has joined #wesnoth 20171213 08:14:03-!- Vadatajs [~Vadatajs@97-127-141-224.cdrr.qwest.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20171213 08:15:38-!- Vadatajs [~Vadatajs@97-127-141-224.cdrr.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth 20171213 08:26:30-!- vladimirslavik [~vslavik@83.240.61.40] has joined #wesnoth 20171213 08:54:50-!- vladimirslavik [~vslavik@83.240.61.40] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20171213 09:13:38-!- vultraz [uid24821@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 20171213 10:25:44-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171213 10:25:52-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20171213 10:37:32-!- vultraz [uid24821@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has joined #wesnoth 20171213 11:05:59-!- Emerald_Witch [uid1929@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hxfnbraazbmqysdo] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 20171213 11:07:11< wesnoth-discord-> Is there a tool to organize the WML of a unit file? As the first key, I always want the id=, then name=, then portrait=, then hitpoints=, then . . . 20171213 11:07:24< wesnoth-discord-> Makes it easier to find certain keys then 20171213 11:26:50< Soliton> you mean rewrite the unit.cfg so the keys are in the order you like? 20171213 11:27:26< Soliton> i'm not aware of one. 20171213 11:27:42< wesnoth-discord-> Yeah. Mhh, that*s unfortunate 20171213 11:28:26< Soliton> perhaps --preprocess output is in alphabetic order at least. 20171213 11:50:31< zookeeper> considering the format is so simple, you might even be able to find some unrelated similar tool (for some other format) that could do it. 20171213 11:50:38< zookeeper> but maybe not. 20171213 12:24:43-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20171213 12:50:58< Soliton> if you're on a posix system you could do ''sed -n '/^[[:space:]]*#/d;/\[unit_type\]/,/\[\/unit_type\]/{//!p}' my_unit.cfg | sort'' to get a sorted list of the unit_type keys for easy comparison or whatever. 20171213 13:29:15-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171213 13:29:24-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20171213 13:32:55-!- Guest22735 [~quassel@212-186-77-29.static.upcbusiness.at] has joined #wesnoth 20171213 13:43:06< wesnoth-discord-> @Pentarctagon the dependenceis aren't spread across 50 packages 20171213 13:53:38-!- vultraz [uid24821@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 20171213 16:23:35-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171213 16:23:50-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20171213 16:50:32-!- Guest22735 [~quassel@212-186-77-29.static.upcbusiness.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171213 17:42:48-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has joined #wesnoth 20171213 17:47:11-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20171213 17:51:52-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has joined #wesnoth 20171213 19:09:54-!- vultraz [uid24821@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has joined #wesnoth 20171213 19:25:48-!- Kranix [~magnus@xd520f683.cust.hiper.dk] has joined #wesnoth 20171213 20:30:00-!- HeyCitizen [~citizen@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/heycitizen] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171213 20:43:41-!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: DDR, Soliton 20171213 20:44:44-!- Netsplit over, joins: DDR 20171213 20:45:12-!- Netsplit over, joins: Soliton 20171213 20:54:13-!- Kranix [~magnus@xd520f683.cust.hiper.dk] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20171213 21:00:07-!- Narrat [~Narrat@p5DCC6A81.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20171213 22:49:20-!- vultraz [uid24821@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 20171213 22:56:07-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20171213 22:56:08-!- desttinghim[m] [desttinghi@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-arqqehamsydzxxko] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20171213 22:57:31-!- desttinghim[m] [desttinghi@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-misiboqxvkcagqsl] has joined #wesnoth 20171213 23:12:23-!- vultraz [uid24821@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has joined #wesnoth 20171213 23:32:58-!- Smedles [~quassel@2001:8003:a9b9:6400:a21d:48ff:fec7:ff5c] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20171213 23:34:06-!- Smedles [~quassel@2001:8003:a9b9:6400:a21d:48ff:fec7:ff5c] has joined #wesnoth 20171213 23:45:15-!- Narrat [~Narrat@p5DCC6A81.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance.] --- Log closed Thu Dec 14 00:00:00 2017