--- Log opened Sun Dec 17 00:00:04 2017 20171217 00:07:42< Ravana_> addons web index includes that info 20171217 00:46:59-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171217 00:47:14-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20171217 01:11:28-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20171217 01:12:10-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has joined #wesnoth 20171217 01:27:36-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has quit [Quit: So long and thanks for all the fish.] 20171217 01:38:59-!- Narrat [~Narrat@p5DCC6A81.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance.] 20171217 03:20:50-!- ArneBab_ [~quassel@freenet/developer/arnebab] has joined #wesnoth 20171217 03:25:09-!- ArneBab [~quassel@freenet/developer/arnebab] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20171217 05:02:56-!- celticminstrel is now known as celmin|sleep 20171217 05:18:22-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171217 05:18:34-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20171217 07:41:21-!- synthpopisback [~synthpopi@cpe-2606-A000-7947-5000-5F2-82EA-114E-D15A.dyn6.twc.com] has joined #wesnoth 20171217 08:58:51-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171217 08:59:00-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20171217 09:06:23-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20171217 09:15:19-!- claymore [~claymore@unaffiliated/claymore] has joined #wesnoth 20171217 09:38:54-!- minnowjac513 [~yjiigd@wsip-174-79-246-41.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #wesnoth 20171217 09:38:57-!- minnowjac513 [~yjiigd@wsip-174-79-246-41.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171217 09:40:56-!- cdext611 [~scllybd@pool-108-15-29-106.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wesnoth 20171217 09:41:10-!- cdext611 [~scllybd@pool-108-15-29-106.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171217 09:42:20-!- harl379 [~auvcl@45.52.116.146] has joined #wesnoth 20171217 09:42:22-!- harl379 [~auvcl@45.52.116.146] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171217 09:45:08-!- ^bufal683 [~svtvgsy@cpe-66-74-17-101.dc.res.rr.com] has joined #wesnoth 20171217 09:45:10-!- ^bufal683 [~svtvgsy@cpe-66-74-17-101.dc.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171217 09:52:31-!- ik970 [~abuofser@241647hfc116.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #wesnoth 20171217 09:52:33-!- ik970 [~abuofser@241647hfc116.tampabay.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171217 11:28:19-!- vultraz [uid24821@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20171217 11:28:35-!- vultraz [uid24821@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has joined #wesnoth 20171217 12:29:05-!- Kranix [~magnus@x1-6-f4-6b-ef-d1-1f-e3.cpe.webspeed.dk] has joined #wesnoth 20171217 12:43:54-!- Kranix [~magnus@x1-6-f4-6b-ef-d1-1f-e3.cpe.webspeed.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20171217 12:44:27-!- Kranix [~magnus@x1-6-f4-6b-ef-d1-1f-e3.cpe.webspeed.dk] has joined #wesnoth 20171217 13:00:57-!- Bonobo [~Bonobo@110-175-146-248.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20171217 13:04:35-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has joined #wesnoth 20171217 13:18:20-!- Kranix [~magnus@x1-6-f4-6b-ef-d1-1f-e3.cpe.webspeed.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171217 13:20:25-!- Kranix [~magnus@x1-6-f4-6b-ef-d1-1f-e3.cpe.webspeed.dk] has joined #wesnoth 20171217 14:16:31-!- vultraz [uid24821@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 20171217 15:33:59-!- celmin|sleep is now known as celticminstrel 20171217 17:15:21-!- Falcon` [falcon@ip248.ip-5-196-244.eu] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20171217 17:50:08-!- Narrat [~Narrat@p5DCC6A81.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20171217 18:01:31-!- Bonobo [~Bonobo@110-175-146-248.tpgi.com.au] has joined #wesnoth 20171217 18:09:29-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20171217 19:07:45-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20171217 19:35:40< wesnoth-discord-> FYI for everyone: The second poll for the Khalifate renaming is now up. 20171217 20:17:34-!- Falcon` [falcon@ip248.ip-5-196-244.eu] has joined #wesnoth 20171217 20:38:26< wesnoth-discord-> What happened to "Rebels" renaming? 20171217 20:38:53< wesnoth-discord-> At some point iirc some devs seriously considered renaming them 20171217 20:41:19< wesnoth-discord-> probably because the name of Rebels only makes any sense in the context of HTTT? at least that was my reason for disliking it 20171217 20:42:12< wesnoth-discord-> So out of curiosity, how would you rename them? 20171217 20:42:13< wesnoth-discord-> while default era would benefit from being more general 20171217 20:42:26< wesnoth-discord-> i remember "sylvans" was brought up 20171217 20:42:33< wesnoth-discord-> but honestly? "elves" would be ok in my book 20171217 20:44:39< wesnoth-discord-> Well, I don't know what happened last time, but I assume someone would have to start a proposal for renaming them as well. 20171217 20:45:28< wesnoth-discord-> iirc even noy said he is open to that idea 20171217 20:47:15< wesnoth-discord-> I believe Turuk mentioned something similar in the Khalifate thread. 20171217 20:47:43< wesnoth-discord-> imean i understand not wanting to rename something after it has had the same name for 10 yeras 20171217 20:49:08< wesnoth-discord-> Dune/Dunefolk definitely sounds like a nomadic people, I don't like it 20171217 20:49:12< wesnoth-discord-> Honestly seeing that they also utilise merfolk, woses (or whatever plural of that is) and humans calling them elves would be a bit, misleading? maybe elven alliance would fit a bill later 20171217 20:49:33< wesnoth-discord-> because Khalifate is a more "imperial" kind of faction instead 20171217 20:50:04< wesnoth-discord-> @Gorgutz Da Christmas Boss#9397 sure, same goes for Drakes though 20171217 20:50:41< wesnoth-discord-> though to be fair, elven alliance is already taken by another game 20171217 20:51:14< wesnoth-discord-> it sounds like a very generic and descriptive name, i doubt it could become an IP matter 20171217 20:51:50-!- Kranix [~magnus@x1-6-f4-6b-ef-d1-1f-e3.cpe.webspeed.dk] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20171217 20:52:26< wesnoth-discord-> eh, not even speaking about ip more about how generic it sounds and how bland it is 20171217 20:52:38< wesnoth-discord-> oh, agreed on that 20171217 20:57:35< wesnoth-discord-> I don't like Knalgans either 20171217 20:57:59< wesnoth-discord-> it is not specific to HTTT like "rebels", but it is still too setting-specific 20171217 21:01:29-!- claymore [~claymore@unaffiliated/claymore] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20171217 21:02:31< wesnoth-discord-> my name suggestion "naphtha people" is as good as half of the poll options were XD 20171217 21:03:06< wesnoth-discord-> oh my god. 20171217 21:03:07< wesnoth-discord-> beautiful. 20171217 21:03:26< wesnoth-discord-> This is the epitome of Wesnoth naming. 20171217 21:03:35< wesnoth-discord-> Opec people 20171217 21:03:55< wesnoth-discord-> got the idea from my naphtha boys nickname for naffats 20171217 21:04:04< wesnoth-discord-> but my post got ignored 😦 20171217 21:06:08< wesnoth-discord-> I'd like to imagine a perfect world, where Loyalists are called "iron men", Rebels are called "tree huggers who murder you with the arcane flame", Knalgans are "rune-copulators (but you'll never see them use runes)", and the Undead are just "mr. skeltal's boys". 20171217 21:07:13< wesnoth-discord-> knalgans = "campers" 20171217 21:07:49< wesnoth-discord-> in some of my games on rare occasion i did talk about men in iron when i was spamming heavy infantry xD 20171217 21:08:52< wesnoth-discord-> I like the World Conquest (mp campaign) faction names 20171217 21:09:19< wesnoth-discord-> I literally don't care about faction name, I'll still will call them after the most stereotypical thing in it Rebels - Elves Drakes - still the same, fits and easy to remember Loyalist - humans Alliance - berserkers and rest Undead - same Khalifate - middle east humans Northerners - orcs 20171217 21:09:56< wesnoth-discord-> i kind of do the same 20171217 21:10:15< wesnoth-discord-> it is funny how drakes are the only descriptive name among the default factions 20171217 21:10:36< wesnoth-discord-> also undead 20171217 21:10:46< wesnoth-discord-> ah, right 20171217 21:10:58< wesnoth-discord-> but there you also have non undead units 20171217 21:11:09< wesnoth-discord-> drakes have nondrake units 20171217 21:11:10< wesnoth-discord-> in drakes you have saurians, bt they are all lizards 20171217 21:11:15< Ravana_> they are still almost undead 20171217 21:11:19< wesnoth-discord-> Simple explanation: Dark Adepts are dead inside. 20171217 21:11:28< wesnoth-discord-> dark adepts and bats are very much alive 20171217 21:11:32< wesnoth-discord-> use them as cannon foder, then they would die and you can resurect them after battle 20171217 21:11:42< wesnoth-discord-> how can a dead inside unit be so amazing 20171217 21:11:47< Ravana_> bats are just when some dark adept experimented and got stuck 20171217 21:12:03< wesnoth-discord-> well 20171217 21:12:15< wesnoth-discord-> help I tried to sparkle in sun, I ended up as a scout unit 20171217 21:12:23< wesnoth-discord-> I mean, they're alive enough to experience all of the bad things about living 20171217 21:12:30< wesnoth-discord-> Like getting poisoned 20171217 21:12:43< wesnoth-discord-> And getting zombified by the spawn of other annoyed necroes 20171217 21:13:03< wesnoth-discord-> that does make some sense, such bloodthirsty bats don't occur naturally and they probably wouldnt be blindly following the dart adepts and dark magicians 20171217 21:13:11< wesnoth-discord-> but it is conflicting with wesnoth lore 20171217 21:13:39< wesnoth-discord-> such bats are common in the wesnoth world, why they follow the undead is not that clear 20171217 21:13:44< wesnoth-discord-> maybe they just like them 20171217 21:14:00< wesnoth-discord-> simple, it might have been an old experiment which broke out 20171217 21:14:12< wesnoth-discord-> and then what animals do when they do not have predators? 20171217 21:14:17< wesnoth-discord-> perhaps the bats are actually intelligent allies of the dark adepts 20171217 21:14:28< wesnoth-discord-> Humans are devolved bats 20171217 21:14:40< wesnoth-discord-> a good argument to give them back the 2 traits xD 20171217 21:14:55< wesnoth-discord-> I don't know about you, but I don't actually buy the 'blood bats and dread bats are what happens when a vampire bat gets BIG and FAT off blood'. 20171217 21:15:01< wesnoth-discord-> I call arcane magic. 20171217 21:15:25< wesnoth-discord-> maybe they drunk magical blood? 20171217 21:15:33< wesnoth-discord-> all upgarding is magical 20171217 21:15:33< wesnoth-discord-> Gurgutz: maybe, that does make some sense but it would have to be reall a long time ago for them to become so widespread, but it is very much imaginable in the wesnoth world 20171217 21:15:40< wesnoth-discord-> Somebody should make a campaign about them 20171217 21:16:00< wesnoth-discord-> There is already Story of the wose 20171217 21:16:03< wesnoth-discord-> a lone peasant wanders if into caves - and by going through enough experience, ends up as a heavily armored Royal Guard, his equipment is a product of his experience 20171217 21:16:08< wesnoth-discord-> somebody should make Story of the bats 20171217 21:16:41< wesnoth-discord-> same with paladin's horses changing color, mages aging, etc 20171217 21:17:57< wesnoth-discord-> It appears that Wesnoth magic works through killing people. 20171217 21:19:08< wesnoth-discord-> Wesnoth is about beating giving innocent shaman girls the experience of killing a human being, so that they can mature 20171217 21:19:41< wesnoth-discord-> something to add to Wesnoth's Steam page, to be sure 20171217 21:19:44< wesnoth-discord-> 😛 20171217 21:20:31< wesnoth-discord-> I liked the old paladin image 20171217 21:20:36< wesnoth-discord-> new one is meh 20171217 21:20:44< wesnoth-discord-> portrait or sprite? 20171217 21:21:16< wesnoth-discord-> killing people means experience in wesnoth 20171217 21:21:28< wesnoth-discord-> one unit can fight 16 times 20171217 21:21:34< wesnoth-discord-> other unit can kill 2 people 20171217 21:21:40< wesnoth-discord-> both will be jst as experienced 20171217 21:21:46< wesnoth-discord-> sprite 20171217 21:22:02< wesnoth-discord-> experience is best understood as vampirism 20171217 21:37:24< wesnoth-discord-> Of course, what do your unit-vampires suck? 20171217 21:38:00< wesnoth-discord-> It can't be a generic life force, given that drain does that, and that drains health. 20171217 21:38:24< wesnoth-discord-> Maybe experience is a type of vampirism that targets a victim's integrity. 20171217 21:38:33< wesnoth-discord-> You have, say, this poor zombie boy. 20171217 21:38:37< wesnoth-discord-> He's a level 0. 20171217 21:38:57< wesnoth-discord-> Level zeroes are basically worthless, so they don't really have any of this concept of existential integrity. 20171217 21:39:18< wesnoth-discord-> memories maybe? 20171217 21:39:48< wesnoth-discord-> Are you implying that experience is a quantifier of how experienced you are at killing people? 20171217 21:40:03< wesnoth-discord-> preposterous 20171217 22:19:55-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20171217 22:20:04-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20171217 22:23:07< wesnoth-discord-> That is overthinking it, even for my standards xD 20171217 23:22:38-!- Falcon` [falcon@ip248.ip-5-196-244.eu] has quit [Quit: I'll be back!] 20171217 23:24:08-!- Falcon` [falcon@ip248.ip-5-196-244.eu] has joined #wesnoth 20171217 23:44:12-!- Falcon` [falcon@ip248.ip-5-196-244.eu] has quit [Quit: I'll be back!] --- Log closed Mon Dec 18 00:00:05 2017