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20180222 00:39:03< irker861> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 2a371e36a422 / changelog: Updated changelog https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/2a371e36a42259bdd1a2c524564efd48ed065096
20180222 01:04:02< irker861> wesnoth/wesnoth:master loonycyborg 1c8f520672 Implemented support for forum auth using AppVeyor: 1/2 builds failed
20180222 01:04:03< irker861> Details vs2017/Release: https://ci.appveyor.com/project/wesnoth/wesnoth-605wt/build/Wesnoth-VS2017-master-1230
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20180222 01:14:49< irker861> Details: https://ci.appveyor.com/project/wesnoth/wesnoth-605wt/build/Wesnoth-VS2017-master-1234
20180222 01:23:21< irker861> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 4bf5c9341f8e / data/ai/ais/idle_ai.cfg: Revert "Remove invalid attribute from idle AI" https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/4bf5c9341f8e5291a71f97f9ab0d9a9f1060890b
20180222 01:23:24< irker861> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 475ba8c6aef9 / src/ai/configuration.cpp: AI: added hidden= as valid non-aspect key https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/475ba8c6aef9f38d02b676f7f0d85d91595ca4f4
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20180222 01:58:18< irker861> Details: https://ci.appveyor.com/project/wesnoth/wesnoth-605wt/build/Wesnoth-VS2017-master-1235
20180222 02:00:17< irker861> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 691f9256ce13 / src/save_index.cpp: Don't try to open a nonexistent save_index file https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/691f9256ce134c731682d4635242b66be1824c44
20180222 02:07:50< vultraz> celticminstrel: i'll leave it to you to decide what to do with the heal unit thing
20180222 02:08:27< celticminstrel> I don't really recommend adding non-aspect keys willy-nilly. I don't think there's a problem with "hidden" in particular, though.
20180222 02:13:22< irker861> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 86a918e67086 / src/bcrypt/bcrypt.c: Hack together a clean build on Windows with MSVC https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/86a918e6708699155d9edfd83cdc794283bfacae
20180222 02:13:25< irker861> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 5291d413777a / projectfiles/VC12/ (wesnothlib.vcxproj wesnothlib.vcxproj.filters): Updated VS projectfile for bcrypt changes https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/5291d413777ae89086620c144c33d6cb4841ea8d
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20180222 04:03:06< irker861> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master a62af7b9124a / src/gui/widgets/chatbox.cpp: GUI2/Chatbox: keep input focus when changing tabs https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/a62af7b9124a943be722d9510e942cf6d91b13d9
20180222 04:03:10< vultraz> Bonobo: ^
20180222 04:04:06< Bonobo> cool, thanks
20180222 04:14:20< irker861> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master b35663e1bf9e / data/gui/ (4 files in 2 dirs): GUI2/Chatbox: handle main border in including windows https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/b35663e1bf9e81dd0c11cafdaee644886a42ae68
20180222 04:29:12< celticminstrel> Extending the schema validator to allow for pattern-based keys wasn't too difficult.
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20180222 04:29:44< celticminstrel> Theoretically the same for pattern-based tags, but it seems like it's not actually working yet, because I still get "frame not allowed in defend" erros.
20180222 04:30:17< celticminstrel> ...oh, I know, maybe it needs to be added to the tag inheritance system as well.
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20180222 05:03:58< celticminstrel> Yay, got it working. The issue was subtags of a super were added as links instead of copies, which doesn't work if the tag is a wildcard tag.
20180222 05:10:10< vultraz>  You keep telling me not to do new features and reflectors and stuff yet here you are doing features and refractors and stuff
20180222 05:10:14< vultraz> :p
20180222 05:11:05< celticminstrel> I wouldn't call this a refactor. It touches like five files and the changes are relatively small, and the code is basically only used in one place (and I've added one more place).
20180222 05:11:30< celticminstrel> I intend to make this a PR and then we can decide when to merge it.
20180222 05:12:08< celticminstrel> I'll probably also hide it behind a command-line argument, especially if it's merged for 1.14, so that people don't have a risk of log-spam for reams of WML that fails the schema validation.
20180222 05:14:32< vultraz> How do you intend to validate custom wml
20180222 05:15:02< celticminstrel> I don't.
20180222 05:15:21< vultraz> Ah
20180222 05:15:23< vultraz> Makes sense
20180222 05:15:23< celticminstrel> The schema will be set to ignore unknown tags in certain contexts.
20180222 05:15:34< celticminstrel> For example in [event]/
20180222 05:15:46< celticminstrel> It'll just ignore any custom ActionWML tags.
20180222 05:16:09< vultraz> what about object
20180222 05:16:14< vultraz> object tags are copied verbatin
20180222 05:16:15< vultraz> m
20180222 05:16:16< celticminstrel> What about it?
20180222 05:16:19< vultraz> so you can stick anything in there
20180222 05:16:43< celticminstrel> I can set it to ignore arbitrary keys too (by adding a "*" key with type=string).
20180222 05:16:56< vultraz> speaking of which, i still haven't figured out how to deal with your removal of just_write
20180222 05:17:04< celticminstrel> I'll still validate the known keys though.
20180222 05:17:06< celticminstrel> My what now?
20180222 05:17:23< vultraz> or no_write
20180222 05:17:24< vultraz> i think
20180222 05:17:40< vultraz> that key i added in 1.12 so objects wouldn't be written to the unit config
20180222 05:17:49< vultraz> the deprecation message says to use [modify_unit]...
20180222 05:17:53< vultraz> i hope that has a lua API..
20180222 05:18:30< celticminstrel> The Lua API to modify_unit is the Lua unit proxy. :P
20180222 05:18:37< vultraz> ah
20180222 05:18:37< vultraz> good
20180222 05:18:38< vultraz> good
20180222 05:18:42< celticminstrel> Anyway, uh...
20180222 05:19:08< celticminstrel> I thought there was an optional parameter to wesnoth.add_modification that specified whether to write the changes?
20180222 05:19:17< vultraz> is there?
20180222 05:20:09< celticminstrel> And if there weren't, it should be possible to manually apply the modification to a unit by looping over its [effect] subtags and applying each one individually from the wesnoth.effects table.
20180222 05:20:14< irker861> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 5f1005d5ce12 / data/gui/widget/chatbox.cfg: GUI2/Chatbox: removed room listbox header https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/5f1005d5ce1280792ec2454e53bb2953a398d32a
20180222 05:20:30< celticminstrel> Admittedly that's several more lines of code though.
20180222 05:20:35< vultraz> hopefully remoiving a string isn't breaking the freeze
20180222 05:20:36< vultraz> removing
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20180222 05:20:49< celticminstrel> Removing a string isn't breaking the freeze.
20180222 05:21:07< celticminstrel> Adding that string back sometime before the next beta release would also be acceptable.
20180222 05:21:22< celticminstrel> (But once you have another beta release, the removed string can't be brought back.)
20180222 05:21:49< celticminstrel> vultraz: Yeah, wesnoth.add_modifications takes an optional fourth parameter which defaults to true.
20180222 05:21:58< celticminstrel> Set it to false, and the modification isn't written to the unit.
20180222 05:22:09< vultraz> gud, gud
20180222 05:22:35< celticminstrel> I think I changed that because it's confusing to have boolean keys that contain a negative.
20180222 05:22:37 * shadowm sees the string freeze tangent, gets déjà vu.
20180222 05:23:06< shadowm> s/next beta release/next pot-update/
20180222 05:23:16< celticminstrel> Fair enough.
20180222 05:23:20< shadowm> (Which usually but not always happens right before a release.)
20180222 05:24:08< shadowm> (Meaning it is not impossible for it to happen long before if a good reason comes up, especially since pot-updates are relatively cheap with today's hardware.)
20180222 05:25:26< irker861> wesnoth: Gregory A Lundberg wesnoth:master e0fda9a0ff5f / src/bcrypt/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Clean up Blowfish Cryptography https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/e0fda9a0ff5f5b2c36f37d49825c81af007e53d4
20180222 05:26:04< vultraz> celticminstrel: could you apply any of these, if they quality as po-fixable? https://wiki.wesnoth.org/SpellingMistakes
20180222 05:26:17< celticminstrel> Remind me on the weekend?
20180222 05:26:24< vultraz> ok
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20180222 05:53:20< irker861> wesnoth: Iris Morelle wesmere:develop 31439098f706 / wesmere/sass/forums.scss: sass/forums: Fix giant copyright footer on prosilver Special Edition https://github.com/wesnoth/wesmere/commit/31439098f7067dcd3515f64ffbd71a0180f8c6f7
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20180222 07:36:14< vn971> Soliton: You may remember I tried to pack the process of add-on uploading into a single command. I've finally improved the script to work on many add-ons with different layouts/preferences, and shared the approach here: https://github.com/vgaming/wesnoth_upload
20180222 07:37:19< vn971> I guess it may be interested for everyone who develops add-ons and finds the "mouse-clicking" approach tiresome.
20180222 07:39:39< vn971> * may be interesting
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20180222 08:59:26< irker861> wesnoth/wesnoth:master Gregory A Lundberg e0fda9a0ff Clean up Blowfish Cryptography AppVeyor: All builds passed
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20180222 09:28:38< Soliton> vn971: nice. your readme refers to wesnoth_publish while stuff seems to be called wesnoth_upload. i would very much suggest not to call bash scripts .sh or people might actually call it with sh. proper commands should have no extension.
20180222 09:34:02< vn971> Soliton: thanks for the publish/upload notice. It was originally named differently, but I changed name to be in line with the python wesnoth_addon_manager. Regarding ".sh", you may be right. Pity my lightweight editor doesn't understand shebang. Anyway, I've stripped the suffix.
20180222 09:51:48< vultraz> *raises eyebrow*
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20180222 10:31:34< irker861> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master a1ad61fa9bdf / src/gui/dialogs/multiplayer/lobby.cpp: MP Lobby: fixed bugged behavior when double clicking game to join/observe https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/a1ad61fa9bdf9129d76d6f7f2887515ec3a233f6
20180222 10:31:38< vultraz> Soliton: ^
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20180222 11:00:16< Soliton> good, good. presumably now mp mods cannot observe unobservable games though. i should make a report about that if that's indeed the case...
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20180222 11:01:00< vultraz> you can always observe if you're authenticated
20180222 11:01:24< Soliton> as a mod? ok, excellent.
20180222 11:09:49< vultraz> Soliton: was there anything else
20180222 11:16:54< Soliton> with observing/joining games? i don't remember anything else atm. there are a couple mp lobby regressions filed as issues that we should try to get fixed before 1.14 though.
20180222 11:17:49< vultraz> certainly
20180222 11:17:56< vultraz> perhaps you could help with that
20180222 11:19:49< Soliton> i'll certainly try for server side issues. wesnothd is definitely not ready for a new stable release atm. i'm less likely to get in the middle of client side GUI layout/design stuff... :-P
20180222 11:20:34< Soliton> we should try to get more veteran players to try the new lobby though and get more feedback about it.
20180222 11:23:50< vultraz> the player list especially works horribly
20180222 11:23:56< vultraz> but I have no fix for that
20180222 11:24:00< vultraz> yet
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20180222 11:24:22< Soliton> in what way?
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20180222 11:26:41< vultraz> it's a tree view that's constantl recreated so it costantly jumps back ot the top if yure scrolled down
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20180222 11:30:42< Soliton> ah, GUI stuff. yeah, i'm not too familiar with that, even less so with GUI2.
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20180222 13:42:29< irker726> wesnoth/wesnoth:master Charles Dang a1ad61fa9b MP Lobby: fixed bugged behavior when dou AppVeyor: vs2017/Debug Failed
20180222 13:42:29< irker726> Details: https://ci.appveyor.com/project/wesnoth/wesnoth-605wt/build/Wesnoth-VS2017-master-1242
20180222 13:56:20< vn971> Hmm, wonder why this forum part is developers-only, even though it's about add-ons, too (not only wesnoth/wesnothd) https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewforum.php?f=2
20180222 13:57:31< vn971> Actually IDK where to post a message about "mod_mp" at all, hm-hm. Guess I'll have to ask for a permission on the subforum above. Can anybody add me, name is "vasya" ?
20180222 13:59:50< vn971> But if I write anything, only members of Developer group would be able to comment. I would like "everyone". So I'm really lost about where to advertise a "mod_mp" add-on.
20180222 14:00:19< Ravana_> wanting to reply to that forum is what originally resulted in me given forum regular role
20180222 14:00:31< Ravana_> use multiplayer development
20180222 14:00:44< Ravana_> even though mod might be usable in sp too now
20180222 14:02:57< vn971> Ravana_: though the subforum description says:  "unit balancing, map development, server development, and so forth."  all of these things feel like internal things, not add-ons. I still see an ambiguity here TBH.
20180222 14:06:51< zookeeper> i'd say put it in multiplayer development anyway, i've always assumed it to be a bit of a catch-all for any multiplayer-related things that don't fit better into the scenario dev or era and faction dev subforums.
20180222 14:09:26< Ravana_> if you have suggestion for better description let Pentarctagon or someone know
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20180222 14:46:45< irker726> wesnoth: Sofartin wesnoth:master 51478f2545a0 / projectfiles/Xcode/Wesnoth.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj: Fixed Xcode project https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/51478f2545a04184246b2b2289e1c53cc2428d13
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20180222 15:20:02< travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/344821793
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20180222 16:50:43< irker726> Details vs2017/Debug: https://ci.appveyor.com/project/wesnoth/wesnoth-605wt/build/Wesnoth-VS2017-master-1242
20180222 17:10:03< irker726> wesnoth: Sofartin wesnoth:master 21806443ec13 / projectfiles/Xcode/ (README.md readme.md): Updated README.md for Xcode project https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/21806443ec13ccf5ed6de143014a9765e6c4aa0b
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20180222 18:10:40< irker726> Details: https://ci.appveyor.com/project/wesnoth/wesnoth-605wt/build/Wesnoth-VS2017-master-1247
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20180222 18:34:37< TadCarlucci> crap crap crap crap double-crap WTF is Microsoft thinking automagically trying to CMake a MSVC project when you upgrade it? Of COURSE it's failing. Yes, we have the CMake bits. No, the CMake project can't find the dependencies where the CMake looks for them. Of course it's crashing. Geez I hope there's a new command-line switch to stop this crap.
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20180222 20:34:49< irker726> Details vs2017/Release: https://ci.appveyor.com/project/wesnoth/wesnoth-605wt/build/Wesnoth-VS2017-master-1247
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20180222 21:58:18< irker726> wesnoth: lundberg wesnoth:master 70d1d9f52c10 / .appveyor.vs2017.yml: Fix AppVeyor for VS 2017 https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/70d1d9f52c10d56c6483d14cfed16d2acafb44e5
20180222 21:59:27< irker726> wesnoth/wesnoth:master Sofartin 51478f2545 Fixed Xcode project AppVeyor: All builds passed
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20180222 23:16:11< vultraz> zookeeper: 
20180222 23:16:19< vultraz> https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=43345&p=623708#p623708
20180222 23:16:28< zookeeper> i saw it
20180222 23:16:40< vultraz> what is the answer?
20180222 23:16:52< vultraz> I say we add them
20180222 23:17:03< zookeeper> i don't remember, will have to check
20180222 23:17:09< zookeeper> which is why i didn't reply yet
20180222 23:18:34< vultraz> looks like there were some very minor style critiques
20180222 23:18:38< vultraz> I see no reason not to add them 
20180222 23:19:29< zookeeper> i'll check the older posts tomorrow to see if i'm forgetting something relevant
20180222 23:20:47< vultraz> ok
20180222 23:21:10< vultraz> guy makes a good point about those bosses just being regular liches though
20180222 23:21:31 * vultraz makes mental note to add boss battle
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