--- Log opened Sun Feb 04 00:00:53 2018 20180204 00:05:10<+wesnoth-discord-> @Not Hamel Go eat dinner. 20180204 00:05:15<+wesnoth-discord-> XD 20180204 00:05:44<+wesnoth-discord-> Yeah, haven't done much, and it's 5. So thanks for the encoragement. 20180204 00:05:53<+wesnoth-discord-> *encouragement 20180204 00:06:15<+wesnoth-discord-> As I said, I get really lazy on weekends since I have em off. 20180204 00:06:25<+wesnoth-discord-> Good game. Cya later. 20180204 00:08:20<+wesnoth-discord-> @Not Hamel 👍 20180204 00:46:07-!- vultraz [uid24821@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has joined #wesnoth 20180204 00:51:46-!- octalot [~steve@77.119.130.91.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has joined #wesnoth 20180204 01:02:18-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [] 20180204 01:07:32-!- octalot [~steve@77.119.130.91.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20180204 01:20:50-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180204 01:26:57-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20180204 01:29:05-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has joined #wesnoth 20180204 01:34:58-!- octalot [~steve@213-225-14-152.nat.highway.a1.net] has joined #wesnoth 20180204 01:40:15-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20180204 01:43:16-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has joined #wesnoth 20180204 01:43:33-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 20180204 01:45:35-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has joined #wesnoth 20180204 02:12:41-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20180204 02:15:12-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has joined #wesnoth 20180204 02:20:20-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20180204 02:22:14-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has joined #wesnoth 20180204 02:26:24-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has quit [Client Quit] 20180204 03:13:49<+wesnoth-discord-> Is UTC the main timezone used by Wesnoth for announcements, updates, etc.? 20180204 03:15:31<+wesnoth-discord-> (since that is used for the steam announcement) 20180204 03:24:23-!- octalot [~steve@213-225-14-152.nat.highway.a1.net] has quit [] 20180204 03:35:18<+wesnoth-discord-> normally 20180204 03:35:28<+wesnoth-discord-> Okay. Just wondering. 20180204 03:36:08<+wesnoth-discord-> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/409552673424146443/image.png 20180204 03:36:26<+wesnoth-discord-> Can someone somehow add a spectre shadow to the background of this picture?? :D 20180204 03:36:29<+wesnoth-discord-> Thats me lol 20180204 03:36:35<+wesnoth-discord-> kind of blurry though 20180204 03:39:10<+wesnoth-discord-> Cool picture. 20180204 03:39:20<+wesnoth-discord-> Nice mask 20180204 03:39:36<+wesnoth-discord-> Thank you xD 20180204 03:39:47<+wesnoth-discord-> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/409553581352550411/image.jpg 20180204 03:39:52<+wesnoth-discord-> Much less blurry 20180204 03:41:55<+wesnoth-discord-> This is what I actually look like in real life 20180204 03:41:56<+wesnoth-discord-> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/409554120551432192/image.jpg 20180204 03:43:06<+wesnoth-discord-> Cool. 20180204 03:43:11<+wesnoth-discord-> :P thanks 20180204 03:43:42<+wesnoth-discord-> Welcome. 20180204 03:44:00<+wesnoth-discord-> Is that a flag of Germany in the background? 20180204 03:45:03<+wesnoth-discord-> yeah 20180204 03:45:35<+wesnoth-discord-> Im in a German class for school, and they have a German club, so I walked in and tried on their fedoras and stuff 20180204 03:45:41<+wesnoth-discord-> lol 20180204 03:46:54<+wesnoth-discord-> Oh cool. I remember in highschool, my German teacher always had a flag of Germany hanging on her door, and that's how I recognised it. 20180204 03:47:32<+wesnoth-discord-> Sounds fun. 20180204 03:47:41<+wesnoth-discord-> lol :p 20180204 03:48:02<+wesnoth-discord-> Are any wesnoth units based on Germany? 20180204 03:48:13<+wesnoth-discord-> I picture loyalists as super super british 20180204 03:48:20<+wesnoth-discord-> xD 20180204 03:48:36<+wesnoth-discord-> I think there's an addon called Eastern Europe at War, so maybe. 20180204 03:48:41<+wesnoth-discord-> aha 20180204 03:48:41<+wesnoth-discord-> Oh same XD 20180204 03:48:46<+wesnoth-discord-> lol xD 20180204 03:48:55<+wesnoth-discord-> Their name choices are so cool 20180204 03:49:09<+wesnoth-discord-> i like the whole loyalist/northerner/rebel thing xD 20180204 03:49:16<+wesnoth-discord-> Yeah. 20180204 03:50:10<+wesnoth-discord-> Like instead of just "Orcish General", they make it sound tons more cool by making it "Orcish Warlord". 20180204 03:50:29<+wesnoth-discord-> Lol yeah 20180204 03:51:26<+wesnoth-discord-> Lol when I was 6 years old I told my parents "A lieutenant is a foot knight that gives his troops a strength bonus!" "Also did u know that loyalists and humans are the same thing" 20180204 03:51:29<+wesnoth-discord-> Lol xD 20180204 03:51:41<+wesnoth-discord-> XD 20180204 03:51:43<+wesnoth-discord-> then I learn what loyalists are in history class in 6th grade 20180204 03:51:53<+wesnoth-discord-> and im like "These are not the loyalists that I know!!" 20180204 03:51:54<+wesnoth-discord-> LOL 20180204 03:52:05<+wesnoth-discord-> XD 20180204 03:52:26<+wesnoth-discord-> xD 20180204 03:52:40<+wesnoth-discord-> Like the American Revolution with the Patriots and Loyalists or whatever? 20180204 03:52:52<+wesnoth-discord-> yeah lol 20180204 03:53:05<+wesnoth-discord-> Loyalists are soooo darn British lol xDD 20180204 03:53:11<+wesnoth-discord-> yeah XD 20180204 03:53:15<+wesnoth-discord-> the unit style 20180204 03:53:16<+wesnoth-discord-> too 20180204 03:53:35<+wesnoth-discord-> with their "For the glory of the King!/For the King!" XD 20180204 03:53:40<+wesnoth-discord-> Lol xD 20180204 03:54:12<+wesnoth-discord-> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k9WUz9NloP4 When I picture loyalists in wesnoth, I picture this song xD 20180204 03:54:27<+wesnoth-discord-> XD yes 20180204 03:54:44<+wesnoth-discord-> "Long live the King" XD 20180204 03:55:31<+wesnoth-discord-> Lolol 20180204 03:55:50<+wesnoth-discord-> And like King Arthur/Excalibur too xD 20180204 03:55:54<+wesnoth-discord-> XD 20180204 03:56:09<+wesnoth-discord-> Newcastle England lol 20180204 03:56:37<+wesnoth-discord-> Personally, I picture the Dwarves as Scottish, the Elves as almost Noble Englishmen, and the humans as just kinda regular dudes. XD 20180204 03:56:43<+wesnoth-discord-> Is it interesting that I picture England to be a different thing than 'Britain'? 20180204 03:56:45<+wesnoth-discord-> LOL 20180204 03:57:19<+wesnoth-discord-> Yeah. A bit same to me too. 20180204 03:57:26<+wesnoth-discord-> When I picture English or England, I picture english muffins and halberdiers and cottages and stuff 20180204 03:57:48<+wesnoth-discord-> When I picture Britain, I picture big galleons with red coats and long mustaches and swords and stuff 20180204 03:57:51<+wesnoth-discord-> lol xD 20180204 03:58:13<+wesnoth-discord-> England technically is just the southernish half of the island and Britain is the whole island with Wales and Scotland. 20180204 03:58:17<+wesnoth-discord-> lol XD 20180204 03:58:43<+wesnoth-discord-> And then the UK is all the english controlled lands. 20180204 03:59:40< aeth> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNu8XDBSn10 20180204 03:59:46<+wesnoth-discord-> Ahh found the picture I use 20180204 03:59:53<+wesnoth-discord-> Oh that's cool too. 20180204 03:59:58<+wesnoth-discord-> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/409558667025711105/unknown.png 20180204 04:00:27<+wesnoth-discord-> :aeth Thanks for that. I'll definitely check it out. 20180204 04:00:36<+wesnoth-discord-> Lol cool xD 20180204 04:04:07<+wesnoth-discord-> Ooh thats a good video 20180204 04:05:08<+wesnoth-discord-> Yeah. I watched it, it's pretty good. 20180204 04:05:57<+wesnoth-discord-> I also learned that Britain is a theocracy?? 20180204 04:05:59<+wesnoth-discord-> :o 20180204 04:06:28< aeth> sort of 20180204 04:07:19<+wesnoth-discord-> Vatican is pretty much a theocracy. It's controlled by the Pope, if I remember right. 20180204 04:07:39< aeth> The thing is, the Anglicans basically did s/pope/monarch/ 20180204 04:07:56<+wesnoth-discord-> cool 20180204 04:08:07<+wesnoth-discord-> Lol I just love 20180204 04:08:16<+wesnoth-discord-> how at the end it says "Special thanks to wikipedia" 20180204 04:08:48<+wesnoth-discord-> yeah XD 20180204 04:09:18<+wesnoth-discord-> Thats like a big 'git gud' message to all the presentations we do at school 20180204 04:09:43<+wesnoth-discord-> Thsy use wikipedia and make a presentation 10x better than most school presentations lol and we are told not to use wikipedia xD 20180204 04:09:49<+wesnoth-discord-> Oh, if you ever can't understand wikipedia because, just replace the en. with simple. it should be easier. 20180204 04:09:53<+wesnoth-discord-> Oh XD 20180204 04:10:02<+wesnoth-discord-> xD 20180204 04:11:29<+wesnoth-discord-> same with my old middle school language arts teacher. 20180204 04:11:36<+wesnoth-discord-> lol 20180204 04:11:52<+wesnoth-discord-> Well you know the powerpoints that students do? 20180204 04:12:08<+wesnoth-discord-> They are soo bland and like, just feels incomplete 20180204 04:12:14<+wesnoth-discord-> yeah 20180204 04:12:14<+wesnoth-discord-> lol 20180204 04:13:13<+wesnoth-discord-> My LA teacher then was pretty cool, like he was a Navy Veteran, and he was really energetic, and sometimes when he had no lesson, we would just do a shakespeare play in the middle of class for like 2 hours. 20180204 04:13:22<+wesnoth-discord-> But he hated wikipedia. 20180204 04:13:36<+wesnoth-discord-> I think he even called it a pile of crap once XD 20180204 04:13:59<+wesnoth-discord-> Ooh xDD 20180204 04:14:18<+wesnoth-discord-> Thats so cool :o, the shakespeare plays xD 20180204 04:15:07<+wesnoth-discord-> I have a friend named Fearspear, I always thought it was a reference to shakespeare but apparently not xD 20180204 04:15:19<+wesnoth-discord-> Yeah, and when we had nobody for a role, he would just point at one of the students and be like, "You! You look evil today, so you will be Claudius!" 20180204 04:15:20<+wesnoth-discord-> XD 20180204 04:15:22<+wesnoth-discord-> cuz of that thing called No fear Shakespeare 20180204 04:15:53<+wesnoth-discord-> what's that? 20180204 04:15:54<+wesnoth-discord-> lol xD 20180204 04:16:05<+wesnoth-discord-> Not sure actually but like 20180204 04:16:09<+wesnoth-discord-> I think its a book series? 20180204 04:16:31<+wesnoth-discord-> okay. I'll look it up. 20180204 04:16:35<+wesnoth-discord-> Ah here we go 20180204 04:16:38<+wesnoth-discord-> https://m.barnesandnoble.com/b/no-fear-shakespeare-series/_/N-2lwq 20180204 04:16:46<+wesnoth-discord-> Julius Caesar is the one I recognized 20180204 04:18:00<+wesnoth-discord-> I remember I played as Banquo in Macbeth once, and he's like, "So, look at Macbeth all creepily now." and I did it, and he actually was like "No! Not Hamel, that is too creepy!" 20180204 04:18:01<+wesnoth-discord-> XD 20180204 04:18:15<+wesnoth-discord-> LOL 20180204 04:18:28<+wesnoth-discord-> What does 'Hamel' mean? xD 20180204 04:18:57<+wesnoth-discord-> It's a Dwarven lord in Northern Rebirth. 20180204 04:19:02<+wesnoth-discord-> ah xD 20180204 04:19:16<+wesnoth-discord-> Are you scottish in real life? lol 20180204 04:19:23<+wesnoth-discord-> You picture dwarves as scottish xD 20180204 04:19:25<+wesnoth-discord-> XD no i wish 20180204 04:19:28<+wesnoth-discord-> yeah XD 20180204 04:19:31<+wesnoth-discord-> ahh :p xD 20180204 04:19:37<+wesnoth-discord-> what are you? lol 20180204 04:19:44<+wesnoth-discord-> American. 20180204 04:19:49<+wesnoth-discord-> XD 20180204 04:19:55<+wesnoth-discord-> native american? :o 20180204 04:20:04<+wesnoth-discord-> No. 20180204 04:20:08<+wesnoth-discord-> Oh lol 20180204 04:20:31<+wesnoth-discord-> You just mean like a mix of western europeaners? xD 20180204 04:20:48<+wesnoth-discord-> I've lived in Utah all my life, and I'm like of 99% european descent. 20180204 04:20:54<+wesnoth-discord-> so yeah XD 20180204 04:20:57<+wesnoth-discord-> ah :p 20180204 04:21:19<+wesnoth-discord-> 99%? interesting xD 20180204 04:21:24<+wesnoth-discord-> yeah XD 20180204 04:21:30<+wesnoth-discord-> Yeah we got a ton of crazy drivers here. 20180204 04:21:50<+wesnoth-discord-> Like someone took new yorkers and just plopped them here. 20180204 04:21:53<+wesnoth-discord-> XD 20180204 04:21:57<+wesnoth-discord-> Lol xD 20180204 04:22:07<+wesnoth-discord-> Harlem Renaissance?? 20180204 04:22:13<+wesnoth-discord-> :P 20180204 04:22:29<+wesnoth-discord-> Harlem Renissance? 20180204 04:22:41<+wesnoth-discord-> To explain your 1% non european descendant 20180204 04:22:51<+wesnoth-discord-> they are a black rights uprising thing in the 1920s 20180204 04:22:52<+wesnoth-discord-> :3 20180204 04:23:06<+wesnoth-discord-> And u say its like they plopped new yorkers in ur place xDD 20180204 04:23:14<+wesnoth-discord-> Lol it was a joke though xD 20180204 04:23:17<+wesnoth-discord-> oh ok XD 20180204 04:24:15<+wesnoth-discord-> yeah Utah is known for gridlock roads, and my area looks like it was planned by someone slapping cooked noodles on paper. 20180204 04:24:17<+wesnoth-discord-> XD 20180204 04:24:48<+wesnoth-discord-> lolol xD 20180204 04:25:16<+wesnoth-discord-> but we've exploded with population recently. 20180204 04:25:44<+wesnoth-discord-> Like just in my city, we have 2 new planned streets with like 50 houses each. 20180204 04:25:56<+wesnoth-discord-> So, yeah, it's pretty cramped. 20180204 04:25:56<+wesnoth-discord-> XD 20180204 04:26:00<+wesnoth-discord-> ooh xD 20180204 04:27:49<+wesnoth-discord-> But most of the people i meet on the bus are nice. 20180204 04:28:17<+wesnoth-discord-> Though, I have met a few...unstable people. 20180204 04:29:49<+wesnoth-discord-> Like this one dude got on a couple months back and sat in the seat directly across from me, and he looked like he was talking to someone (no one was there, no phone, nothing) and he just started loudly cussing and hitting himself. 20180204 04:30:36-!- Narrat [~Narrat@p5DCC6707.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance.] 20180204 04:31:06<+wesnoth-discord-> but, yeah most of the people are nice. 20180204 04:31:54<+wesnoth-discord-> Another weird experience is I was standing up for my stop, and this random dude just gives me a Bible and tells me to keep it. 20180204 04:31:55<+wesnoth-discord-> XD 20180204 04:36:22<+wesnoth-discord-> Anyway, do you have any more questions @Meta Mirage? XD 20180204 04:56:08<+wesnoth-discord-> xD 20180204 04:56:28<+wesnoth-discord-> Hmm Im trying out the northerners and I quite like them 20180204 04:56:46<+wesnoth-discord-> cuz I do a lot of damage for 12 coins xD 20180204 04:57:04<+wesnoth-discord-> Any tips with northerners? 20180204 04:58:25<+wesnoth-discord-> Whats the hardest faction to fight if u play northerners? 20180204 05:04:17<+wesnoth-discord-> I think the undead will be difficult, but not hard. 20180204 05:05:00<+wesnoth-discord-> The Dwarves and Khalfis/Dunies were the most difficult for me as Northerners against AI 20180204 05:05:40<+wesnoth-discord-> Because the orcs focus on quantity, while those 2 focus on quality. 20180204 05:06:47<+wesnoth-discord-> Actually, maybe Drakes. 20180204 05:07:24<+wesnoth-discord-> Your archers are weaker than average, and the spearman does not put up very much of a fight. 20180204 05:09:32<+wesnoth-discord-> That help? 20180204 05:09:36<+wesnoth-discord-> yeah 20180204 05:10:39<+wesnoth-discord-> Got any more questions? XD 20180204 05:10:54<+wesnoth-discord-> Whats the COOLEST faction xD 20180204 05:11:09<+wesnoth-discord-> XD 20180204 05:11:19<+wesnoth-discord-> Mainline or addon too? 20180204 05:12:37<+wesnoth-discord-> Mainline :3 20180204 05:12:55<+wesnoth-discord-> My favorite era addon is era of magic 20180204 05:13:06<+wesnoth-discord-> Cool. 20180204 05:13:07<+wesnoth-discord-> They based their stuff on chrono trigger 20180204 05:13:11<+wesnoth-discord-> one of my favorite jrpgs 20180204 05:13:18<+wesnoth-discord-> Cool. 20180204 05:13:41<+wesnoth-discord-> Okay. I'm gonna have to think about the coolest faction for a bit. XD 20180204 05:13:45<+wesnoth-discord-> xD 20180204 05:14:39<+wesnoth-discord-> Well, technically, water can get really cold, and mermen live in it, so you could say they are the coolest. 20180204 05:14:41<+wesnoth-discord-> XD 20180204 05:14:46<+wesnoth-discord-> lolol xD 20180204 05:15:01<+wesnoth-discord-> Drakes are the hottest faction xD 20180204 05:15:18<+wesnoth-discord-> Becomes furry LOL 20180204 05:15:25<+wesnoth-discord-> XD 20180204 05:15:48<+wesnoth-discord-> Well, I do like the Dunefolk. 20180204 05:15:55<+wesnoth-discord-> ah 20180204 05:16:08<+wesnoth-discord-> the khergit khanate khalifate xD 20180204 05:16:25<+wesnoth-discord-> They are pretty cool, IMO, and you could say they are pretty hot since they live in the desert. 20180204 05:16:26<+wesnoth-discord-> XD 20180204 05:16:38<+wesnoth-discord-> lolol :P 20180204 05:17:19<+wesnoth-discord-> And they got pretty good units, but you have to pay like 18 gold for each. 20180204 05:17:21<+wesnoth-discord-> XD 20180204 05:17:25<+wesnoth-discord-> xD 20180204 05:18:48<+wesnoth-discord-> Yeah, I think I'm gonna get to sleep now so I can wake up at a decent time while I catch up on sleep tomorrow. 20180204 05:18:48<+wesnoth-discord-> XD 20180204 05:19:07<+wesnoth-discord-> Okay, good night! 👍 20180204 05:19:36<+wesnoth-discord-> Good night! 20180204 05:54:14-!- celticminstrel is now known as celmin|sleep 20180204 05:58:48-!- DoctorFender1031 is now known as DeFender1031 20180204 06:13:40-!- minbonbon [~min@meta23.net] has joined #wesnoth 20180204 06:15:50-!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: minzbonbon 20180204 06:17:57-!- clavi [~anonymous@v22017054422549272.happysrv.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20180204 06:22:46-!- clavi [~anonymous@v22017054422549272.happysrv.de] has joined #wesnoth 20180204 07:27:59<+wesnoth-discord-> Does anyone have any like... wesnoth puzzles? XD 20180204 07:28:06<+wesnoth-discord-> You know how there are chess tactics and chess puzzles 20180204 07:28:11<+wesnoth-discord-> I would like to see some for wesnoth positions :o 20180204 07:28:24<+wesnoth-discord-> Like, best way to play for best chance of an advantage, or something 20180204 09:04:25-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20180204 10:33:05<+wesnoth-discord-> how about wesnoth chess with the heroes instead of the normal units 20180204 10:33:12<+wesnoth-discord-> i can already see it being a thing 20180204 10:33:18<+wesnoth-discord-> (mainline heroes i mean) 20180204 10:33:40<+wesnoth-discord-> or no, actually no 20180204 10:39:26<+wesnoth-discord-> bit hard since the board is hexagonal and not square 20180204 11:02:09-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has joined #wesnoth 20180204 12:38:44-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has joined #wesnoth 20180204 12:43:16-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20180204 12:45:53-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has joined #wesnoth 20180204 13:05:35-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20180204 13:07:02-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has joined #wesnoth 20180204 13:17:53-!- Ravana_ [~Ravana@unaffiliated/ravana/x-2327071] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20180204 13:25:23-!- Bonobo [~Bonobo@220-244-89-194.tpgi.com.au] has joined #wesnoth 20180204 13:25:25-!- claymore [~claymore@unaffiliated/claymore] has joined #wesnoth 20180204 13:40:45<+wesnoth-discord-> There are ways to simulate squares 20180204 13:46:55-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20180204 13:48:06-!- hrubymar10 [~textual@255.ip-217-182-72.eu] has joined #wesnoth 20180204 13:48:36-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has joined #wesnoth 20180204 14:32:06<+wesnoth-discord-> OMG, I was wondering what was going on with Wesnoth and I just found out that is coming to steam! I feel so happy! This game is golden and I had very good memories of it. Is incredible how all the community managed to keep it alive through years! 20180204 14:39:59-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20180204 14:42:27-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has joined #wesnoth 20180204 14:53:00<+wesnoth-discord-> I don't see Wesnoth chess being played anymore. 20180204 14:53:56<+wesnoth-discord-> I was good at it for once. But now I'm not comfortable with it. 20180204 14:56:53< celmin|sleep> vultraz: But there are chess variants on a hexagonal grid IIRC, so maybe not quite as hard as you'd think. :P 20180204 14:58:01<+wesnoth-discord-> I thought you were talking about the existing add-on. Not a brand new remake. 20180204 14:58:49<+wesnoth-discord-> Wesnoth Chinese Checkers? 20180204 15:14:45< DeFender1031> I find little point in implementing other board games in wesnoth just for the sake of having them in wesnoth. 20180204 15:15:34< DeFender1031> I'd prefer to see more wesnoth-specific puzzles than reinventing the wheel and inserting it into a different wheel. 20180204 15:19:24-!- celmin|sleep is now known as celticminstrel 20180204 15:27:51-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20180204 15:29:04-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has joined #wesnoth 20180204 15:34:39-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20180204 15:37:18-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has joined #wesnoth 20180204 15:45:50-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180204 15:53:53<+wesnoth-discord-> if you want to make a wesnoth combat puzzle with one way and only one way to solve it, then you'd need to remove the randomness first. 20180204 15:56:13<+wesnoth-discord-> (including the randomness of AI decisions) 20180204 15:57:23< DeFender1031> Of course. 20180204 15:57:43< DeFender1031> I'm thinking more scenarios that introduce puzzle elements. 20180204 15:58:07<+wesnoth-discord-> Hey, are you insulting the Wesnoth AI's decision making skills? 20180204 15:58:13< DeFender1031> (I'm actually planning one of those for my campaign if I ever again have time to work on it.) 20180204 15:59:48< DeFender1031> Things like stationary triggers that react to certain kinds of attacks differently and change the environment in certain ways, and you have to figure out the right combination/order to do a thing. 20180204 16:00:17< DeFender1031> (Oh, and obviously, they'd have a special that makes attacks never miss...) 20180204 16:02:22< zookeeper> ohh, but you could have some kind of hit-a-switch puzzle with normal attacks. you just never know whether your unit is going to hit it an even or odd number of times, makes it more fru... fun! 20180204 16:03:02< DeFender1031> zookeeper, yeah, no. 20180204 16:04:46< DeFender1031> If you're going to do a "the infamous puzzle level", the least you can do is not ake your players want to throw their monitors through the window. 20180204 16:05:54-!- octalot [~steve@213-225-14-152.nat.highway.a1.net] has joined #wesnoth 20180204 16:11:59<+wesnoth-discord-> I thought the objective of game development was to make your players loathe you. 20180204 16:12:19< DeFender1031> Only in mario maker. 20180204 16:14:13-!- Amany [~gaspar@aip141.rev.netart.pl] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20180204 16:15:54<+wesnoth-discord-> Hah! 20180204 16:16:30<+wesnoth-discord-> Can't argue with that. 20180204 16:16:58<+wesnoth-discord-> @sapient_n3t removing AI randomness is easy enough, just look at Tutorial S02 20180204 16:20:07<+wesnoth-discord-> I have puzzles in my campaign but nothing about them is wesnoth specific 20180204 16:20:46<+wesnoth-discord-> they're just ordinary puzzles lol 20180204 16:22:07< DeFender1031> @Yumi like what kinds? 20180204 16:22:37<+wesnoth-discord-> select items in the correct order 20180204 16:22:41<+wesnoth-discord-> @pydsigner not sure what you mean by that 20180204 16:23:03<+wesnoth-discord-> move units to specific locations to activate a bridge 20180204 16:23:41<+wesnoth-discord-> like that 20180204 16:24:15<+wesnoth-discord-> but I suppose something using different attack types is definitely possible 20180204 16:35:36-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20180204 16:35:44-!- Bonobo [~Bonobo@220-244-89-194.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20180204 16:37:20<+wesnoth-discord-> Puzzle elements in Wesnoth are always rather refreshing when they come up# 20180204 16:37:29-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has joined #wesnoth 20180204 16:40:39<+wesnoth-discord-> ...are there a grand total of zero public, non-base Wesnoth, cores 20180204 16:42:05-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20180204 16:43:45<+wesnoth-discord-> Indeed, we aren't aware of any alternative cores. 20180204 16:44:10<+wesnoth-discord-> The feature is essentially untested and unmaintained as a result. 20180204 16:44:16-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has joined #wesnoth 20180204 16:44:42<+wesnoth-discord-> Well, I guess that I'm going to fix that 20180204 16:56:06<+wesnoth-discord-> It would be hard to prove that you did solve the puzzle correctly because of luck. 20180204 16:56:59-!- octalot [~steve@213-225-14-152.nat.highway.a1.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20180204 16:57:35<+wesnoth-discord-> Which doesn't mean you can't determine the best moves xD 20180204 17:04:25< DeFender1031> isn't part of the problem that it's not actually as simple to swap out a core as it is to create an add-on? 20180204 17:05:17< DeFender1031> @EoZ which is why I suggested stuff that responds to single, never-miss attacks rather than anything affected by RNG. 20180204 17:06:39<+wesnoth-discord-> Though now i got an idea for the FIRST WESNOTH PUZZLE EVER 20180204 17:06:43<+wesnoth-discord-> from my yesterday game 20180204 17:09:23<+wesnoth-discord-> ok look 20180204 17:09:32<+wesnoth-discord-> http://scr.hu/2lyq/31gxf 20180204 17:09:40<+wesnoth-discord-> http://scr.hu/2lyq/kqvrg 20180204 17:09:46<+wesnoth-discord-> The question is what do you do here as ud 20180204 17:10:12<+wesnoth-discord-> what is the best move (my opp missed it) 20180204 17:12:03<+wesnoth-discord-> Sadly some of you may not know the map in its entirety 20180204 17:12:11<+wesnoth-discord-> but still you could find it in theory 20180204 17:12:28<+wesnoth-discord-> in the upper right corner there is second castle 20180204 17:13:27-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20180204 17:14:31-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has joined #wesnoth 20180204 17:15:31<+wesnoth-discord-> I'm not convinced that people who aren't Fabi know what the problem is 20180204 17:16:11<+wesnoth-discord-> XD just take a shot, what would you do, that is what you need to explain 20180204 17:16:17< DeFender1031> I have no idea, but I'm more intruiged by @EoZ's full handle. 20180204 17:17:15<+wesnoth-discord-> I will wait a bit and then i can tell you 20180204 17:17:35<+wesnoth-discord-> Hm. 20180204 17:17:40<+wesnoth-discord-> No clue how to multiplayer. 20180204 17:17:58<+wesnoth-discord-> I'd start by moving the skelly to the hills. 20180204 17:18:02<+wesnoth-discord-> XD you see wesnoth puzzles complicated 20180204 17:18:32<+wesnoth-discord-> ok, hills to the left of the middle? 20180204 17:18:34< DeFender1031> Yeah, I also have no clue how to multiplayer, and my single-player skills aren't that great either... 20180204 17:18:48<+wesnoth-discord-> Yep. 20180204 17:19:08< DeFender1031> Honestly, I kinda just play for the stories... 20180204 17:19:13<+wesnoth-discord-> not a bad move, good one but this is not what im looking for 20180204 17:19:18<+wesnoth-discord-> I actually meant gameplay puzzles as opposed to actually strategy puzzles 20180204 17:19:25<+wesnoth-discord-> Wait, we just need one move? 20180204 17:19:36< DeFender1031> So @EoZ, what's the story behind your name? 20180204 17:19:47<+wesnoth-discord-> well yes, other moves like remove the bat from village and put skeleton you could also mention 20180204 17:19:52<+wesnoth-discord-> but they arem ore obvious 20180204 17:19:59<+wesnoth-discord-> its basically mostly about onem ove 20180204 17:20:06<+wesnoth-discord-> but explaining everything is also accepted 20180204 17:20:27<+wesnoth-discord-> its a cool name isnt it 20180204 17:21:21<+wesnoth-discord-> I'd move the ghost to just before the end of the two cave walls at the top right, in order to create a loose pincer? 20180204 17:21:41<+wesnoth-discord-> Wait, no, the puzzle's something to do with the wolf, isn't it 20180204 17:21:55<+wesnoth-discord-> no, its not this but i will give you a tip: its a move with the ghost 20180204 17:22:03<+wesnoth-discord-> Left ghost to bottom mushrooms. 20180204 17:22:17<+wesnoth-discord-> then i take your village 20180204 17:22:19<+wesnoth-discord-> XD 20180204 17:23:02<+wesnoth-discord-> but you probably want 20180204 17:23:06<+wesnoth-discord-> to take my village in exchange 20180204 17:23:08<+wesnoth-discord-> on the left 20180204 17:23:13<+wesnoth-discord-> not the worst 20180204 17:23:40<+wesnoth-discord-> Which village do you take? 20180204 17:23:49<+wesnoth-discord-> the one ghost is on 20180204 17:25:00<+wesnoth-discord-> btw the map is symmetrical 20180204 17:25:08<+wesnoth-discord-> so what you see on the right is also there on the left 20180204 17:25:36<+wesnoth-discord-> you would need to move ghost at least one hex behing mushrooms to take my village with 7 mp still its ok, i get it 20180204 17:25:39<+wesnoth-discord-> but like i said 20180204 17:25:43<+wesnoth-discord-> its a move with ghost 20180204 17:25:45<+wesnoth-discord-> not this one 20180204 17:25:49<+wesnoth-discord-> the ghost on right 20180204 17:26:18<+wesnoth-discord-> Oh, ghost to non-keep castle? 20180204 17:26:34<+wesnoth-discord-> close but no 20180204 17:27:11<+wesnoth-discord-> Hm, objectives. 20180204 17:27:21< Soliton> somewhere were you threaten the village and can't get trapped. 20180204 17:27:22<+wesnoth-discord-> kill leader 20180204 17:27:23<+wesnoth-discord-> We want to defend the village near the middle-top-left. 20180204 17:27:24<+wesnoth-discord-> XD 20180204 17:27:39<+wesnoth-discord-> well that would be many places soliton 20180204 17:28:13<+wesnoth-discord-> middle top left... well the move with skeleton on the hills kind of does that even though that village is not in range of my wolf 20180204 17:28:36<+wesnoth-discord-> oh I mixed up right and left 20180204 17:28:55<+wesnoth-discord-> the one bat is in? yes, good move i mentioned exchanging bat for a skeleton 20180204 17:29:12<+wesnoth-discord-> The one I was thinking of is actually outright top right 20180204 17:29:31<+wesnoth-discord-> ghost is there but it is not in range of any of my units yet 20180204 17:29:36<+wesnoth-discord-> Ghost to hills next to cave wall, perhaps? 20180204 17:30:26<+wesnoth-discord-> no, you mentioned some move next to cave walls before 20180204 17:31:12<+wesnoth-discord-> if you arent sure of any mechanics scefific thing, ask 20180204 17:31:18<+wesnoth-discord-> specific 20180204 17:31:32<+wesnoth-discord-> That orcish grunt reaches the village the ghost is currently on in two turns? 20180204 17:31:39<+wesnoth-discord-> yes 20180204 17:31:53<+wesnoth-discord-> it has 6 mp actually 20180204 17:32:37<+wesnoth-discord-> try harder, there are only so many ghost moves left 20180204 17:32:44<+wesnoth-discord-> Next guess is Ghost to forest to its left. 20180204 17:33:08<+wesnoth-discord-> which, one, forest on hill or forest on flat? 20180204 17:33:14<+wesnoth-discord-> BRB. 20180204 17:34:48<+wesnoth-discord-> btw somebody mentioned "strategy puzzles" 20180204 17:34:55<+wesnoth-discord-> it is in no way a strategy puzzle, come on 20180204 17:35:20<+wesnoth-discord-> its a tricks puzzle 20180204 17:42:27<+wesnoth-discord-> Also you weren't the first one who mentioned puzzles 20180204 17:42:51<+wesnoth-discord-> If you want gamneplay puzzles play Yumi's campaign 20180204 17:44:27<+wesnoth-discord-> only if you don't mind incomplete campaigns 20180204 17:44:44<+wesnoth-discord-> but the first one should be done "soon" 20180204 17:45:02<+wesnoth-discord-> Still it has more puzzles than any other campaign I know. 20180204 17:46:58<+wesnoth-discord-> Back 20180204 17:47:28<+wesnoth-discord-> Oh and Genesis is the only campaign that I've actually finished (on 0.9.0) 20180204 17:51:26<+wesnoth-discord-> I'll go with forest on hills 20180204 17:51:58<+wesnoth-discord-> yes that is the best move 20180204 17:52:01<+wesnoth-discord-> well done xD 20180204 17:52:16<+wesnoth-discord-> though i am not sure you know why it is the best 20180204 17:52:28<+wesnoth-discord-> it is the best because you block my grunt 20180204 17:52:58<+wesnoth-discord-> i cant get back to village, however i can block ghost for one turn by placing grunt i hex from the water on hills 20180204 17:53:09<+wesnoth-discord-> What happened in the real game? 20180204 17:53:22<+wesnoth-discord-> but then i need to send my army back on the right or go into a very risky attack and llose villages which is not good 20180204 17:53:40<+wesnoth-discord-> he didnt move his ghost and then next turn i explained to him why i almost fucked up xD 20180204 17:53:56-!- octalot [~steve@213-225-14-152.nat.highway.a1.net] has joined #wesnoth 20180204 17:54:36<+wesnoth-discord-> ultimately it ended when he presumably didnt expect one of my units, i trapped his ghost on the left, took his villages and broke through on the right 20180204 17:56:37< Soliton> you can block the ghost from getting back to his village and threaten his village as well, when he moves there. 20180204 17:57:13<+wesnoth-discord-> then I lose my villages and he can send bat into his village and also he moves leader into castle up right and recruits 20180204 17:57:21<+wesnoth-discord-> my grunt would die quite a sad death 20180204 17:57:49< Soliton> same with his ghost. 20180204 17:57:56<+wesnoth-discord-> even if i killed one bat for it if i hit 2/2 20180204 17:58:14<+wesnoth-discord-> not really, i have no units in range, my units are out of the position 20180204 17:58:52<+wesnoth-discord-> even on the map it shows i have nothing on the right, i either send my army units back or lose villages 20180204 17:59:18<+wesnoth-discord-> also ghosts are pain to kill without archers and my archers are mispositioned, actually none of them can reach villlage in 2 turns 20180204 17:59:23<+wesnoth-discord-> if that is what you are thinking 20180204 18:00:14< Soliton> i did not try to guess what units i can barely see on the minimap. 20180204 18:00:48<+wesnoth-discord-> the one you dont see in castle is my archer and he cant reach village 20180204 18:00:57<+wesnoth-discord-> even if it was quick 20180204 18:00:59<+wesnoth-discord-> in 2 turns 20180204 18:01:11<+wesnoth-discord-> the one in my army isn ot quick, i think even if it was it couldnt rach 20180204 18:01:18<+wesnoth-discord-> reach 20180204 18:02:22<+wesnoth-discord-> if i send my army after the ghost then i would lose a village for like 2 turns and ghost would still escape, and my army is on the right chasing a ghost 20180204 18:02:48-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20180204 18:03:27-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has joined #wesnoth 20180204 18:04:01-!- Ravana_ [~Ravana@unaffiliated/ravana/x-2327071] has joined #wesnoth 20180204 18:33:33<+wesnoth-discord-> Okay, the things that I've stolen from Wesnoth (Default) """work""" 20180204 18:33:59<+wesnoth-discord-> Help breaks the moment you try to touch it, but the map editor works, and we can actually load into the Core 20180204 18:34:07<+wesnoth-discord-> Which leaves reimplementing everything else 20180204 18:38:34-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20180204 18:38:42<+wesnoth-discord-> The tutorial from the default core still works, just mentions something about the lack of the EDITOR_OVERLAY macro 20180204 18:39:12-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has joined #wesnoth 20180204 18:42:37<+wesnoth-discord-> Okay, I swap that around and suddenly it doesn't load. 20180204 18:58:09-!- claymore [~claymore@unaffiliated/claymore] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20180204 19:05:20-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20180204 19:05:56-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has joined #wesnoth 20180204 19:18:05-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20180204 19:18:44-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has joined #wesnoth 20180204 19:22:51<+wesnoth-discord-> Wesnoth puzzles would be spectacular 20180204 19:23:06<+wesnoth-discord-> Randomness wouldnt have to be removed either 20180204 19:23:17<+wesnoth-discord-> the idea is to play for the best chances 20180204 19:23:29<+wesnoth-discord-> u could also do something with planning mode 20180204 19:23:48<+wesnoth-discord-> I'll check out that wesnoth puzzle when I get out of bed 20180204 19:26:37< Soliton> you can at least do puzzles where maneuvering is the key. no randomness in there. 20180204 19:31:53<+wesnoth-discord-> Thats also true 20180204 19:32:47<+wesnoth-discord-> but randomness is not an issue imo 20180204 19:34:18<+wesnoth-discord-> You just wouldnt post puzzles where there are multiple equally good ways or almost equally good to play 20180204 19:34:28<+wesnoth-discord-> or where the style is key 20180204 19:34:46<+wesnoth-discord-> Thats the same in chess 20180204 19:35:15<+wesnoth-discord-> Puzzles arent generally meant to have ambiguous moves, but yeah 20180204 19:40:06-!- claymore [~claymore@unaffiliated/claymore] has joined #wesnoth 20180204 19:46:13-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20180204 19:46:54-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has joined #wesnoth 20180204 19:54:00<+wesnoth-discord-> Maybe randomness can become an issue, but generally in wesnoth cant you compensate for randomness failing if you had really good chances for randomness working out in your favor? 20180204 19:57:26<+wesnoth-discord-> wesnoth tactics puzzles would be so awesome! the puzzles could be stuff where you don't have to rely on randomness (like making a line to guarantee a certain unit survives), or it could be something like maximizing the chance to kill an enemy unit 20180204 19:58:04<+wesnoth-discord-> it could be a nice thing to do on a periodic basis 20180204 19:58:08<+wesnoth-discord-> esp if there's a steam release 20180204 19:58:22<+wesnoth-discord-> so like put one on facebook/twitter or whatever 20180204 19:58:51<+wesnoth-discord-> I'm going to see if I can think of some! One thing that makes it hard though is usually you need a lot more info than a screenshot would provide. resistances/movetypes/stats for the units involved etc 20180204 20:02:45<+wesnoth-discord-> I'd do it as an add-on with a weekly scenario addition or monthly or whatever 20180204 20:03:41<+wesnoth-discord-> Could you repurpose the difficulty menu? 20180204 20:03:50<+wesnoth-discord-> I'm so glad that people approve of my idea! <3 20180204 20:03:52<+wesnoth-discord-> xD 20180204 20:04:12<+wesnoth-discord-> And yeah Inky I think those are the most valid wesnoth puzzles possible 20180204 20:04:29<+wesnoth-discord-> Pydsigner that would be so cool :o 20180204 20:05:14<+wesnoth-discord-> Use 100% cth and such to make things non-random as necessary 20180204 20:05:33<+wesnoth-discord-> you mean just for illustrative purposes? 20180204 20:05:36< Soliton> a save/replay would also be an easy way to allow people to try their ideas and post results. 20180204 20:05:44<+wesnoth-discord-> true! 20180204 20:09:13<+wesnoth-discord-> haha i can find some more games and make puzzles out of them if there is interest xD 20180204 20:09:25<+wesnoth-discord-> Repurpose the difficulty menu? 20180204 20:09:29<+wesnoth-discord-> Definitely. 20180204 20:10:16<+wesnoth-discord-> @adramolokh Does it scroll if you have say 15 entries? 20180204 20:10:40<+wesnoth-discord-> Only one way to find out. 20180204 20:11:23<+wesnoth-discord-> : madscience: 20180204 20:14:08<+wesnoth-discord-> please do EoZ 20180204 20:14:13-!- matthiaskrgr [matthiaskr@gateway/shell/panicbnc/x-nliupunlbxslrqlf] has joined #wesnoth 20180204 20:14:16-!- matthiaskrgr [matthiaskr@gateway/shell/panicbnc/x-nliupunlbxslrqlf] has left #wesnoth [] 20180204 20:14:55<+wesnoth-discord-> wait EoZ 20180204 20:15:02<+wesnoth-discord-> I just realized, are you ElderOfZion? 20180204 20:15:04<+wesnoth-discord-> xD 20180204 20:15:37<+wesnoth-discord-> I realized that after I noticed that your wolf screenshot is in Polish lol 20180204 20:17:10<+wesnoth-discord-> This is so cool!! A super pro player made a puzzle :D 20180204 20:17:29<+wesnoth-discord-> of course i am 20180204 20:17:39<+wesnoth-discord-> XD 20180204 20:17:46<+wesnoth-discord-> I had no idea xD lol 20180204 20:19:31<+wesnoth-discord-> The difficulty screen does indeed allow for scrolling. 20180204 20:20:30<+wesnoth-discord-> For the puzzle you posted, I would give the middle house to the skeleton instead of the ghoul, and position the ghoul to the house where the bat is on the midright ish? 20180204 20:20:42<+wesnoth-discord-> and position the bat somewhere safe 20180204 20:20:55<+wesnoth-discord-> also bring my adept and skeleton closer to the action in the center? 20180204 20:22:33<+wesnoth-discord-> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/409805939093405706/Screenshot_20180204_202109.png 20180204 20:22:47<+wesnoth-discord-> lol 20180204 20:22:56<+wesnoth-discord-> wtf is that xDDD 20180204 20:23:45<+wesnoth-discord-> The most normal version of Genesis that exists. 20180204 20:24:59<+wesnoth-discord-> Oh you mentioned a ghost move EoZ hmmm 20180204 20:25:28<+wesnoth-discord-> Move the ghost at the top right to the keep that you cant see on the screen? XD 20180204 20:26:35<+wesnoth-discord-> nice answer even though i already explained it 20180204 20:26:42<+wesnoth-discord-> it wasm ore about a single move 20180204 20:26:49<+wesnoth-discord-> ofc your moves are also good 20180204 20:27:16<+wesnoth-discord-> oh did you already give the answer? if you say yes then ill just look xD 20180204 20:27:19<+wesnoth-discord-> Got out of bed ;p 20180204 20:27:24<+wesnoth-discord-> adromolokh: its ab ug right? 20180204 20:27:33<+wesnoth-discord-> not sure if it has been reported already 20180204 20:27:49<+wesnoth-discord-> No, testing something for Pydesigner. 20180204 20:28:07<+wesnoth-discord-> XD ok 20180204 20:28:19<+wesnoth-discord-> crimson: yes 20180204 20:28:36<+wesnoth-discord-> okay 20180204 20:31:06<+wesnoth-discord-> oh forest on hills to block the grunt 20180204 20:46:57-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20180204 20:47:35-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has joined #wesnoth 20180204 20:50:07<+wesnoth-discord-> What's a good Dwarvish add-on campaign? 20180204 20:50:25<+wesnoth-discord-> (For 1.12.6) 20180204 20:54:13<+wesnoth-discord-> Why addon? Dwarves already got two mainline. XD 20180204 20:56:21<+wesnoth-discord-> I just like them. 20180204 20:57:22<+wesnoth-discord-> And don't Elves technically have 3? 20180204 20:57:32<+wesnoth-discord-> There's one that stars Hamel. 20180204 20:58:06<+wesnoth-discord-> Isn't that The Earth's Gut? 20180204 20:58:30<+wesnoth-discord-> I've played it, and I liked it, but it was unfinished from when I last checked. 20180204 20:59:05<+wesnoth-discord-> Hrnnn 20180204 20:59:32<+wesnoth-discord-> You could always just play that swamplings mission with the two thunderers. XD Those guys are hilarious. 20180204 20:59:55<+wesnoth-discord-> Swamplings mission? 20180204 21:01:20<+wesnoth-discord-> In the Swamplings campaign, there's this funny mission where some dwarf thunderers with a shipment of thundersticks get lost in a swamp and have to trade some to your goblin tribe. Leading to the best level 0 unit, the Thundergobo~! 20180204 21:01:41<+wesnoth-discord-> https://www.wesnoth.org/units/1.12/Swamplings/en_US/Thundergobo.html 20180204 21:02:02<+wesnoth-discord-> Cool! 20180204 21:02:41<+wesnoth-discord-> I just like dwarves. 20180204 21:02:54<+wesnoth-discord-> And I love the last mission of THoT. 20180204 21:03:49<+wesnoth-discord-> It's long, but fun. 20180204 21:05:07-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20180204 21:05:17-!- vultraz [uid24821@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 20180204 21:05:47-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has joined #wesnoth 20180204 21:13:42-!- claymore [~claymore@unaffiliated/claymore] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20180204 21:15:53<+wesnoth-discord-> xD scotsmen! 20180204 21:20:25<+wesnoth-discord-> that 15-1 ranged on a lvl 0 😱 20180204 21:27:27<+wesnoth-discord-> @adramolokh nice 20180204 21:27:53<+wesnoth-discord-> Thanks 20180204 21:28:20<+wesnoth-discord-> With the difficulty text though....hmmm 20180204 21:28:55<+wesnoth-discord-> If there are 0 or 1 difficulties, can you avoid that screen entirely? 20180204 21:36:59<+wesnoth-discord-> @Yumi There's a not insignificant chance of the gobo killing itself on the ranged attack though. 20180204 21:37:38<+wesnoth-discord-> Is the level 0 woodsman 4-3? 20180204 21:41:33<+wesnoth-discord-> Yes, you can. 20180204 21:42:06< Soliton> and 3-1 melee 20180204 21:45:35<+wesnoth-discord-> Yeah 6-3 melee and 15-1 range on a level 0 unit is GOOD 20180204 21:45:48<+wesnoth-discord-> Those values would be decent on a level 1 to be honest. 20180204 21:47:08<+wesnoth-discord-> * overpowered 20180204 21:47:38<+wesnoth-discord-> Details. 20180204 22:15:56-!- hrubymar10 [~textual@255.ip-217-182-72.eu] has quit [Quit: hrubymar10] 20180204 22:16:23-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20180204 22:17:01-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has joined #wesnoth 20180204 22:22:20-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180204 22:22:27-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20180204 22:41:16-!- sevu [~Shiki@141.57.57.83] has joined #wesnoth 20180204 23:05:20-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20180204 23:05:58-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has joined #wesnoth 20180204 23:19:18-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20180204 23:19:55-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has joined #wesnoth 20180204 23:25:21-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has joined #wesnoth 20180204 23:29:42-!- octalot [~steve@213-225-14-152.nat.highway.a1.net] has quit [] 20180204 23:43:18-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has quit [Quit: So long and thanks for all the fish.] 20180204 23:46:15-!- D1O0IBgoez [~ximkbv@107.163.64.60] has joined #wesnoth 20180204 23:46:16< D1O0IBgoez> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ IRC.SUPERNETS.ORG #SUPERBOWL SUPERBOWL PARTY RIGHT NOW LIVE CHATTING AND PLAY BY PLAY COMMENTARY GOING ON NOW!! 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