--- Log opened Fri Mar 16 00:00:29 2018 20180316 00:00:45< octalot> shadowm I mean, someone who can give Landar the same love and support that Cleodil gives Kalenz 20180316 00:02:46<+discordbot1> That seems antithetical to his subplot. 20180316 00:04:19<+discordbot1> hmm, apparently this block of code doesn't work 20180316 00:04:24<+discordbot1> [event] name=recruit first_time_only=no [filter] type=White Mage [/filter] [object] [filter] x,y=$x1,$y1 [/filter] silent=yes duration=scenario [effect] apply_to=loyal [/effect] [/object] [/event] 20180316 00:04:39<+discordbot1> the unit continues to have loyal upkeep even after the scenario ends 20180316 00:04:43<+discordbot1> am I doing something wrong? 20180316 00:05:11< zookeeper> someone just fixed something upkeep-related the other day, probably related. 20180316 00:06:06<+discordbot1> hmm, but this is for 1.12.6 20180316 00:07:55< zookeeper> i'm too old to have learned to trust any of that duration= stuff really. 20180316 00:08:22<+discordbot1> well, it can be a hidden feature then 20180316 00:28:00-!- hk238 [~kvirc@unaffiliated/hk238] has quit [] 20180316 00:55:09-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20180316 01:08:48-!- Haudegen [~quassel@212-186-77-29.static.upcbusiness.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20180316 01:08:53-!- TheRuralJuror [~quassel@212-186-77-29.static.upcbusiness.at] has joined #wesnoth 20180316 01:42:49-!- Ravana_ [~Ravana@unaffiliated/ravana/x-2327071] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20180316 01:43:24-!- Ravana_ [~Ravana@unaffiliated/ravana/x-2327071] has joined #wesnoth 20180316 01:49:26-!- TheRuralJuror [~quassel@212-186-77-29.static.upcbusiness.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180316 02:14:57-!- octalot [~steve@91.141.3.130.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20180316 02:54:14-!- Bonobo [~Bonobo@203.63.93.247] has joined #wesnoth 20180316 03:03:38-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has joined #wesnoth 20180316 03:22:55-!- ShikadiQueen is now known as shadowm 20180316 03:34:51-!- vultraz [uid24821@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 20180316 03:51:52-!- Narrat [~Narrat@p5DCC6D18.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance.] 20180316 04:22:48-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Quit: And lo! The computer falls into a deep sleep, to awake again some other day!] 20180316 05:14:33-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180316 05:14:46-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20180316 05:40:23-!- vultraz [uid24821@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has joined #wesnoth 20180316 06:25:13-!- Smedles [~quassel@1.125.111.25] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20180316 06:49:33-!- Smedles [~quassel@1.124.104.7] has joined #wesnoth 20180316 07:00:34-!- Smedles_ [~quassel@101.166.204.105] has joined #wesnoth 20180316 07:03:05-!- Smedles [~quassel@1.124.104.7] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20180316 07:03:42<+discordbot1> This is not about the duration (which seems to work well enough now), but about the upkeep being reset after the effect is removed. That indeed isn't done, and will be fixed in the next release. 20180316 08:02:55-!- Smedles_ is now known as Smedles 20180316 09:07:59-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20180316 09:09:59-!- vladimirslavik [vslavik@nat/redhat/x-zpcziqycheqsknjl] has joined #wesnoth 20180316 09:57:21-!- dobson [~dobson@68.ip-149-56-14.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20180316 10:01:40-!- dobson [~dobson@68.ip-149-56-14.net] has joined #wesnoth 20180316 10:37:47-!- octalot [~steve@91.141.3.130.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has joined #wesnoth 20180316 11:55:48-!- octalot [~steve@91.141.3.130.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has quit [] 20180316 12:02:09-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180316 12:15:55-!- X14ANIcatsup [~qbbqzz@187.17.48.210] has joined #wesnoth 20180316 12:15:56-!- X14ANIcatsup [~qbbqzz@187.17.48.210] has quit [Client Quit] 20180316 12:59:42-!- Haudegen [~quassel@212-186-77-29.static.upcbusiness.at] has joined #wesnoth 20180316 13:41:24-!- hrubymar10 [~textual@78.108.103.216] has joined #wesnoth 20180316 13:42:38<+discordbot1> Some more Dunefolk threads, for anyone who wasn't aware- Balance changes: https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=47831 Poll (not mine this time) for adding the Dunefolk to Default era: https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=47895 20180316 14:11:56< Soliton> if there is no serious effort to balance the dunefolk+default it makes no sense to put them in default. 20180316 14:12:57< Soliton> and it's certainly not possible to do before 1.14 without breaking the string freeze. 20180316 14:14:22<+discordbot1> That was my assumption, but vultraz and Celtic_Minstrel are considering otherwise, apparently. 20180316 14:22:27-!- Bonobo [~Bonobo@203.63.93.247] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20180316 14:25:05< zookeeper> probably because they didn't think it involves string changes, which it naturally does. 20180316 14:31:04< Soliton> i think what might be good idea is to come up with better era names and have an era with all the factions, an era with the default factions that is highly balanced, some new era with less balanced factions (like dunefolk) where it's also easier to add new factions and balance just those together with a (perhaps new) map pool. 20180316 14:40:05-!- vladimirslavik [vslavik@nat/redhat/x-zpcziqycheqsknjl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180316 14:40:30-!- vladimirslavik [vslavik@nat/redhat/x-qpwxwjzrnjblaaui] has joined #wesnoth 20180316 14:44:34<+discordbot1> Why are we trying to add Dunefolk to default ughhhhhh 20180316 14:44:34-!- vladimirslavik [vslavik@nat/redhat/x-qpwxwjzrnjblaaui] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20180316 14:44:49<+discordbot1> This should not be a continuing conversation at this point 20180316 14:45:05-!- vladimirslavik [vslavik@nat/redhat/x-elvpjilvqsdchtql] has joined #wesnoth 20180316 14:45:38<+discordbot1> The poll is broken 20180316 14:46:07<+discordbot1> Add to default and drop from mainline are not the only possibilities 20180316 14:46:27< Soliton> yeah, that's some weird options. 20180316 14:50:40<+discordbot1> It's been mentioned a few times about instead adding them to an "after the fall" era, possibly along with the Quenoth(and obviously at least a couple others would be needed), which I think would be a pretty neat option. It's not my poll though, so I'll let sigurd decide what to do with it. 20180316 14:56:10<+discordbot1> Well I've dumped my opinion in the thread 20180316 14:56:12<+discordbot1> Ugh 20180316 15:05:13-!- DeFender1031 [~DeFender1@dsl217-132-38-129.bb.netvision.net.il] has quit [Quit: I'm not back now.] 20180316 15:29:40-!- hrubymar10 [~textual@78.108.103.216] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20180316 16:03:15-!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: Falcon` 20180316 16:04:06-!- Netsplit over, joins: Falcon` 20180316 16:49:17-!- Haudegen [~quassel@212-186-77-29.static.upcbusiness.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180316 17:18:59-!- hk238 [~kvirc@unaffiliated/hk238] has joined #wesnoth 20180316 17:21:47< hk238> hi 20180316 17:25:15<+discordbot1> Hello again! 20180316 17:55:33-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has joined #wesnoth 20180316 18:42:39-!- claymore [~claymore@unaffiliated/claymore] has joined #wesnoth 20180316 19:10:06-!- vultraz [uid24821@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 20180316 19:12:23-!- octalot