--- Log opened Mon Apr 09 00:00:37 2018 20180409 01:07:34<+discordbot> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/432708109593477120/unknown.png 20180409 01:07:45<+discordbot> Cute :3 20180409 01:09:25<+discordbot> my 40 year old chess friend's cats 20180409 01:43:22-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180409 01:43:31-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20180409 01:48:33-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180409 01:48:42-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20180409 02:17:26-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180409 02:17:34-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20180409 05:35:34-!- gallaecio [~quassel@57.99.79.188.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #wesnoth 20180409 05:35:45-!- hrubymar10 [~textual@193.85.203.186] has joined #wesnoth 20180409 05:46:09-!- hrubymar10 [~textual@193.85.203.186] has quit [Quit: hrubymar10] 20180409 06:02:02-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@p4FC53504.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Changing host] 20180409 06:02:02-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has joined #wesnoth 20180409 06:14:10-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Quit: And lo! The computer falls into a deep sleep, to awake again some other day!] 20180409 07:02:27-!- vn971 [~vasya@94.158.103.15] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20180409 07:03:33-!- vn971 [~vasya@94.158.103.15] has joined #wesnoth 20180409 07:33:12-!- vladimirslavik [vslavik@nat/redhat/x-hzwhxdzhxmhivwgw] has joined #wesnoth 20180409 07:46:25-!- vladimirslavik [vslavik@nat/redhat/x-hzwhxdzhxmhivwgw] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20180409 07:51:23-!- grzywacz [~karol@89-70-226-147.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #wesnoth 20180409 08:52:51-!- ToBeCloud [uid51591@wikimedia/ToBeFree] has joined #wesnoth 20180409 08:58:14-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20180409 09:25:27< galegosimpatico> @Meta Mirage#1123 so many cats. 20180409 10:14:21-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20180409 10:21:09-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20180409 10:26:57-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180409 10:46:16<+discordbot> why did you remove dev version dl link from wesnoth main page? stable and dev dl links used to be next to each other there 20180409 10:46:32<+discordbot> if you want more people to playtest dev, maybe you should put it back 😛 20180409 10:48:12<+discordbot> aah nvm 20180409 10:48:17<+discordbot> it is still there, just not as visible 20180409 10:48:20<+discordbot> my bad! 20180409 11:02:02-!- ToBeCloud [uid51591@wikimedia/ToBeFree] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 20180409 11:35:40-!- Haudegen [~quassel@212-186-77-29.static.upcbusiness.at] has joined #wesnoth 20180409 11:35:50<+discordbot> random question 20180409 11:36:23<+discordbot> in my campaign the characters don’t speak wesnothian, so i type wesnothian dialogue in welsh 20180409 11:36:46<+discordbot> how would translators handle something like that in a main line campaign? or would a mainline campaign just not do that? 20180409 11:41:50< zookeeper> if a mainline campaign would need to have dialogue in an unknown language, then it should simply be some kind of gibberish. 20180409 11:42:17< grzywacz> I think the only concern is for Welsh translators? I'd be fine leaving Welsh as gibberish in the Polish version. 20180409 11:43:09< grzywacz> Proper gibberish would be better. 20180409 11:43:46< zookeeper> doesn't really make any sense to use a real-world language. either the player should be able to read what is said (so you should use english+translations), or they shouldn't (so you can't use a real language). 20180409 11:44:35< grzywacz> Could be an easter egg. :P 20180409 11:46:21<+discordbot> yeah easter egg was my idea 20180409 11:46:22<+discordbot> Using a real language is an excellent way to create something that sounds like a real language. 20180409 11:46:35<+discordbot> so players can look into it if they feel like it 20180409 11:46:41<+discordbot> then you won't be consistent with other campaign authors, who cannot use that real language 20180409 11:46:42<+discordbot> It just becomes a problem if the player can understand it. 20180409 11:46:50<+discordbot> gibberish is consistent between creators 20180409 11:46:52<+discordbot> that’s true yeah 20180409 11:47:08<+discordbot> problem with gibberish is i can’t make it look like words 20180409 11:47:12<+discordbot> but then neither does welsh 20180409 11:47:21< zookeeper> i'd imagine there's probably some gibberish generators you can use. 20180409 11:47:58< grzywacz> Use Welsh, just reverse each word. Double the easter egg power. ;-) 20180409 11:48:09<+discordbot> some kind of code could work actually yeah 20180409 11:49:39<+discordbot> in 1.13, what is the Monte Carlo damage calculation stuff for? are there some cases where normal calculation would screw up? 20180409 11:50:13<+discordbot> It's intended for cases where the default damage calculation is too slow. 20180409 11:50:44<+discordbot> The default method becomes slower as the units have higher HP, as well as if slow or swarm is involved. 20180409 11:51:06<+discordbot> oh 20180409 11:51:07<+discordbot> Monte Carlo simulation runs at almost constant time, no matter what kind of battle it is. 20180409 11:51:50<+discordbot> now i want to see the damage calculation screen for a slows vs swarms battle 20180409 11:52:43<+discordbot> oh and drains too, somehow 20180409 12:01:05<+discordbot> 1.13 font rendering is really ugly and not crisp 20180409 12:01:23<+discordbot> especially apparent with ingame chat 20180409 12:04:35<+discordbot> interesting: 20180409 12:05:16<+discordbot> in 1.13, in the ingame chat bar, the text rendering is ok; while in the chat log in the top left, the text rendering is ugly 20180409 12:12:54<+discordbot> https://i.imgur.com/bcmJ1OR.png 20180409 12:13:04<+discordbot> bug? 20180409 12:20:37< grzywacz> I would say so. 20180409 12:24:01-!- RedNew [a8b5398e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.168.181.57.142] has joined #wesnoth 20180409 12:24:37-!- RedNew [a8b5398e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.168.181.57.142] has quit [Client Quit] 20180409 12:27:20-!- tomlukeywood [~tom@host-92-19-232-58.static.as13285.net] has joined #wesnoth 20180409 12:31:10<+discordbot> another ui bug: (win7) if you run the game windowed and ingame rescale the window size by dragging its frame, then most of the ui adjusts, but the chat/command bar does not - it remains where it was 20180409 12:31:23<+discordbot> if you close the bar and open it again, then it reappears in the right place 20180409 12:31:59<+discordbot> Did the command bar adjust in 1.12? 20180409 12:32:46<+discordbot> hm, no it didn't 20180409 12:33:31<+discordbot> In that case it isn't a regression (and doesn't sound like a severe bug anyway, as there is a simple workaround). 20180409 12:33:39<+discordbot> yeah 20180409 12:38:32-!- tomlukeywood [~tom@host-92-19-232-58.static.as13285.net] has quit [Quit: tomlukeywood] 20180409 12:42:07< Ravana_> 1.13 chat looks bad indeed, slightly less so when using 110% text size 20180409 13:21:43-!- Falcon` [falcon@ip248.ip-5-196-244.eu] has quit [Quit: I'll be back!] 20180409 13:26:08-!- Falcon [falcon@ip248.ip-5-196-244.eu] has joined #wesnoth 20180409 13:30:23-!- vn971 [~vasya@94.158.103.15] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20180409 13:32:16-!- Soo_Slow [~devnu11@178.71.120.114] has joined #wesnoth 20180409 13:43:54-!- vn971 [~vasya@94.158.103.15] has joined #wesnoth 20180409 14:02:16-!- vladimirslavik [vslavik@nat/redhat/x-rhrizubuomehvnit] has joined #wesnoth 20180409 14:20:36-!- Soo_Slow [~devnu11@178.71.120.114] has quit [Quit: Soo_Slow] 20180409 14:20:51-!- Haudegen [~quassel@212-186-77-29.static.upcbusiness.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180409 14:23:01-!- vn971 [~vasya@94.158.103.15] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20180409 14:23:11-!- Choicerer [2e138974@gateway/web/freenode/ip.46.19.137.116] has joined #wesnoth 20180409 14:24:31-!- Choicerer [2e138974@gateway/web/freenode/ip.46.19.137.116] has quit [Client Quit] 20180409 14:32:50-!- Haudegen [~quassel@212-186-77-29.static.upcbusiness.at] has joined #wesnoth 20180409 14:37:29<+discordbot> are previous versions of umc server stuff stored somewhere? 20180409 14:37:39<+discordbot> or deleted immediately 20180409 14:38:37<+discordbot> eh, deleted immediately i guess, considering the big contenty ones' size? 20180409 14:39:03<+discordbot> https://addons.wesnoth.org/ 20180409 14:39:55<+discordbot> i meant previous versions of umc, not umc of previous versions 20180409 14:40:30<+discordbot> pretty unlikely 20180409 14:51:41<+discordbot> no 20180409 14:51:52<+discordbot> unless you maybe can ask the author 20180409 16:01:59-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180409 16:02:07-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20180409 16:46:37-!- vladimirslavik [vslavik@nat/redhat/x-rhrizubuomehvnit] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20180409 17:12:12-!- Gambit [~derek@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20180409 17:12:19-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180409 17:20:44-!- Gambit [~derek@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has joined #wesnoth 20180409 17:49:25-!- Haudegen [~quassel@212-186-77-29.static.upcbusiness.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180409 17:57:02<+discordbot> @Kwandulin I hate to say it, because I want to do it, but I really probably can't find time in my schedule to squeeze that one in. 20180409 17:57:10<+discordbot> I still want to do it, I just don't know when I'll get around to it. 20180409 18:43:02-!- tomlukeywood [~tom@host-92-19-232-58.static.as13285.net] has joined #wesnoth 20180409 18:48:49<+discordbot> lol "Not crisp but still pretty" 20180409 18:48:59<+discordbot> x)) 20180409 19:00:12-!- tomlukeywood [~tom@host-92-19-232-58.static.as13285.net] has quit [Quit: tomlukeywood] 20180409 19:10:42-!- Choicerer [d598a2b5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.152.162.181] has joined #wesnoth 20180409 19:49:07-!- Choicerer [d598a2b5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.152.162.181] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20180409 20:02:06-!- octalot [~steve@213-225-13-31.nat.highway.a1.net] has joined #wesnoth 20180409 20:14:09<+discordbot> @Zerovirus no problem 20180409 20:14:20-!- vn971 [~vasya@94.158.103.15] has joined #wesnoth 20180409 21:07:33-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20180409 21:15:13-!- gallaecio_ [~quassel@57.99.79.188.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #wesnoth 20180409 21:15:26-!- gallaecio [~quassel@57.99.79.188.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20180409 21:33:37-!- gallaecio_ [~quassel@57.99.79.188.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180409 22:37:36-!- octalot [~steve@213-225-13-31.nat.highway.a1.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20180409 23:48:47-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has joined #wesnoth 20180409 23:54:25-!- octalot [~steve@213-225-13-31.nat.highway.a1.net] has joined #wesnoth --- Log closed Tue Apr 10 00:00:38 2018