--- Log opened Sat Apr 28 00:00:40 2018 20180428 00:26:56-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180428 00:58:42-!- celmin|away is now known as celticminstrel 20180428 01:08:21-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180428 01:08:28-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20180428 04:04:17-!- gallaecio [~quassel@188.79.96.255] has joined #wesnoth 20180428 05:10:26<+discordbot> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/439654588170371083/unknown.png 20180428 05:10:28<+discordbot> look, it's freckles, the spectre with 63 hp 20180428 05:14:15<+discordbot> not even those annoying chaos magi can kill her 20180428 05:15:08<+discordbot> adds +2 damage to the ranged attack for the Chaos Invoker line 20180428 05:16:29<+discordbot> 😭 20180428 05:19:15<+discordbot> What campaign is that tho? 20180428 05:19:23<+discordbot> An add-on? 20180428 05:20:03<+discordbot> Invasion from the Unknown. 20180428 05:20:40<+discordbot> I've played it once or twice. 🙃 20180428 05:23:28<+discordbot> it's a fine campaign, despite what shadowm might say about it 😛 20180428 05:23:34<+discordbot> quite good, definitely worth playing 20180428 05:48:27-!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20180428 05:50:08-!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has joined #wesnoth 20180428 05:59:45<+discordbot> Ooh okay. 20180428 06:00:06<+discordbot> [Sorry for the late response, I'm busy nerding in another server] 20180428 06:02:59<+discordbot> Eh, in fairness, I'd like to think I managed to bring it on par with AtS with the version 2.0 rewrite, without entirely sacrificing the "IftUness" quality it had like some people (who never came back to comment on it) feared. 20180428 06:10:16<+discordbot> I disagree, AtS presents a much more compelling storyline 20180428 06:10:23<+discordbot> and characterization 20180428 06:10:51<+discordbot> although IftU may be just as polished in terms of scenery and stuff 20180428 06:11:05<+discordbot> Part of IftU's "IftUness" is precisely that it's rather shallow for the most part. 20180428 06:11:21<+discordbot> And more light-hearted. 20180428 06:13:39<+discordbot> I suppose that's also why it's storyline doesn't stand out quite as much, to me 20180428 06:15:00<+discordbot> It is effective as a marketing tool, though. 20180428 06:15:24<+discordbot> Most people don't want to play campaigns with AtS' plot density or skim over them. 20180428 06:15:47<+discordbot> IftU is sufficiently straightforward that it can serve as an appetizer of sorts. 20180428 06:17:05<+discordbot> The amount of criticism I've got over the years for AtS not being "like (the old) IftU" is absurd but it puts things into persepctive. 20180428 06:17:43<+discordbot> you can't please everyone 20180428 06:17:50<+discordbot> IftU also has critique 20180428 06:18:02<+discordbot> I think sequels are generally worse. Not trying to take a side here, but I think more people like the original content of a creator than the continuous material. 20180428 06:18:04<+discordbot> Yeah but it's mostly about the gameplay, and Mal Keshar. 20180428 06:18:13<+discordbot> (Who I purposefully toned down during the rewrite.) 20180428 06:19:01<+discordbot> People generally overlooked the shitty prose and structure that 17 year old me wrote. 20180428 06:19:01-!- fortfoskett [~Jabo@209.6.91.232] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20180428 06:19:54<+discordbot> yeah I don't think you can generalize sequels like that 20180428 06:20:17<+discordbot> it really depends on the situation 20180428 06:20:40<+discordbot> regarding IftU, I seem to recall there being plenty of critique for the rather shallow storyline 20180428 06:21:25<+discordbot> it being very cliche 20180428 06:22:00<+discordbot> And yet it consistently drew larger numbers of players than AtS during development. 20180428 06:22:17<+discordbot> And after development as well 20180428 06:22:45<+discordbot> If you look at That Campaign That Shall Not Be Named you'll realise that it's actually pretty effective. 20180428 06:23:03<+discordbot> Throw a haphazardly written plot, give it a fancy name, boom, instant numbers. 20180428 06:23:06<+discordbot> IftU is definitely easier to digest 20180428 06:23:13<+discordbot> but do you care about numbers, or do you care about artistic integrity? 20180428 06:23:16<+discordbot> (Perhaps part of my mistake with AtS was not coming up with a more generic name lol) 20180428 06:23:32<+discordbot> Both. 20180428 06:23:44<+discordbot> AtS exists for the latter, IftU for the former. 20180428 06:24:40<+discordbot> also, correct me if I'm wrong, but the community had also grown smaller during AtS's development 20180428 06:24:59<+discordbot> IftU still had a constant stream of feedback for a long while though. 20180428 06:25:27<+discordbot> It decayed around the time Wesnoth began imploding circa 2012 (precisely around the time AtS E2 development began). 20180428 06:27:40<+discordbot> 🤷 20180428 06:28:08<+discordbot> AtS does have more downloads than IftU on the 1.12 server 20180428 06:28:59<+discordbot> Does it now? 20180428 06:29:30<+discordbot> or am I stupid 20180428 06:29:48<+discordbot> I've not had a look in a year. 20180428 06:29:49<+discordbot> 25105 vs 22124 20180428 06:30:14<+discordbot> AtS seems to be pulling fine numbers \o/ 20180428 06:30:28<+discordbot> 20+k for each? 20180428 06:30:39<+discordbot> and you say no one plays your campaigns 20180428 06:30:56<+discordbot> feedback is a bit sparse, that's true 20180428 06:30:57<+discordbot> I still don't know how well the AMLA changes in IftU were received. 20180428 06:31:08<+discordbot> I told you my opinion, I think 20180428 06:31:32<+discordbot> Your opinion is more biased than everyone else's. 20180428 06:31:39<+discordbot> Proof: your campaign is full of AMLAs. 20180428 06:32:18<+discordbot> In cases like this the opinion of the masses is more important than that of collaborators. 20180428 06:32:24<+discordbot> The same applies to mainline Wesnoth. 20180428 06:32:33<+discordbot> Whoa what? You wrote a campaign when you were 17? 20180428 06:32:35<+discordbot> The developers are pretty content with what they've built but not everyone agrees with that. 20180428 06:32:45<+discordbot> hrrrrrrrr 20180428 06:32:49<+discordbot> Wat? Did I read that right? 20180428 06:33:01<+discordbot> What's so shocking about that? 20180428 06:33:06<+discordbot> vultraz started younger 20180428 06:33:12<+discordbot> Eastern Invasion was written by a dev who was like 12 at the time. 20180428 06:33:19<+discordbot> Back in 2004. 20180428 06:33:20<+discordbot> What?! 20180428 06:33:35<+discordbot> my campaign is full of AMLAs..... 20180428 06:33:40<+discordbot> you're right 20180428 06:33:48<+discordbot> 😱 20180428 06:33:49<+discordbot> I pictured you all as like semi old dudes, not millenials. 20180428 06:33:57<+discordbot> No offense. 20180428 06:34:10<+discordbot> lol xD 20180428 06:34:11<+discordbot> tfw people call you a millennial. 20180428 06:34:19<+discordbot> well LotI is full of AMLA type things too 20180428 06:34:29<+discordbot> although I believe most people like it for the item crafting system 20180428 06:34:37<+discordbot> erm 20180428 06:34:37<+discordbot> Hamel/yumi/shadowm oh man you people are so cute xD together :3 20180428 06:34:46<+discordbot> Vultraz did start contributing to mainline Wesnoth at a younger age than me though. 20180428 06:34:46<+discordbot> haha 20180428 06:34:47<+discordbot> I think most of us are indeed millennials. Vultraz is still a teenager, and I'm 27. 20180428 06:35:05<+discordbot> I am an average college student age 20180428 06:35:06<+discordbot> Technically not a teenager anymore, I'm 20 now 😛 20180428 06:35:13<+discordbot> 😮 😮 20180428 06:35:21<+discordbot> im 17, maybe i should make something for once lol 20180428 06:35:25<+discordbot> discovered wesnoth when I was 13 20180428 06:35:37<+discordbot> i discovered it when i was 5 oh man 20180428 06:35:44<+discordbot> i contributed zilch xD 20180428 06:35:52<+discordbot> I was 15 when I started tinkering around with campaigns. 20180428 06:36:05<+discordbot> cute :) 20180428 06:36:13<+discordbot> ... Right. 20180428 06:36:23<+discordbot> wat 20180428 06:36:27<+discordbot> no 20180428 06:36:36<+discordbot> Also please let me know if it bothers you because if it does then i will stop 20180428 06:36:38<+discordbot> hehe 20180428 06:36:45<+discordbot> I pictured Vultraz as like a 50yr old or something 20180428 06:36:48<+discordbot> Not 20 20180428 06:36:50<+discordbot> lmao 20180428 06:36:50<+discordbot> tf 20180428 06:36:53<+discordbot> lol me too hamel 20180428 06:36:55<+discordbot> hahahahaha 20180428 06:37:03<+discordbot> the hell 20180428 06:37:06<+discordbot> xD 20180428 06:37:06<+discordbot> wot 20180428 06:37:07<+discordbot> 50??? 20180428 06:37:09<+discordbot> LOL 20180428 06:37:09<+discordbot> yes 20180428 06:37:11<+discordbot> xD 20180428 06:37:14<+discordbot> :bowman: 20180428 06:37:22<+discordbot> i know a chess guy who is 72 and on discord 20180428 06:37:26<+discordbot> german dude 20180428 06:37:40<+discordbot> I'm laughing at this harder than I should 20180428 06:37:44<+discordbot> Well I'm not a fan of people thinking I'm a senile hag but I'm sure Vultraz would feel flattered himself. 20180428 06:37:54<+discordbot> Lol laugh it away man its adorable :))) 20180428 06:37:59<+discordbot> I pictured shadowm was like 45ish as well 20180428 06:38:00<+discordbot> haha 20180428 06:38:03<+discordbot> Especially since we had an in-joke for several years of him being less than 12 years old. 20180428 06:38:09<+discordbot> hrrrrrrrrrrrr 20180428 06:38:11<+discordbot> how tf are yall millennials? 20180428 06:38:15<+discordbot> I guess it evens out 20180428 06:38:21<+discordbot> I'm not a millennial 20180428 06:38:26<+discordbot> in real life, people think I'm around 15 20180428 06:38:31<+discordbot> lol i dontcknoe what a millennial is 20180428 06:38:32<+discordbot> Close enough 20180428 06:38:33<+discordbot> and you guys think I'm like 40 20180428 06:38:36<+discordbot> *dont know 20180428 06:38:38<+discordbot> Wat 20180428 06:38:41<+discordbot> lol yumi xD 20180428 06:38:42<+discordbot> average that and it's a bit high, but whatever 20180428 06:38:53<+discordbot> A millenial is a person born in the 90s, I think. 20180428 06:38:55<+discordbot> is a millennial some sort of age group 20180428 06:38:56<+discordbot> ahh 20180428 06:38:57<+discordbot> Lemme check. 20180428 06:39:23<+discordbot> Mid 1990s to early 2000s 20180428 06:39:26<+discordbot> aha 20180428 06:39:29<+discordbot> Dunno about anyone else, but I found Wesnoth around 1.4, and then just kinda... never left. 20180428 06:39:30-!- clavi [~anonymous@v22018044422564167.powersrv.de] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 20180428 06:39:30<+discordbot> it depends 20180428 06:39:43<+discordbot> the cutoff point is rather arbitrary 20180428 06:39:52<+discordbot> if ur born in 2000, then are u a millennial's millennial 20180428 06:39:55<+discordbot> Millennials are whatever age group is best used as a target by baby boomers. 20180428 06:39:58<+discordbot> "here are no precise dates for when this cohort starts or ends; demographers and researchers typically use the early 1980s as starting birth years and the mid-1990s to early 2000s as ending birth years." 20180428 06:39:59<+discordbot> so i could either be a very very very very late millennial 20180428 06:40:00<+discordbot> cuz i was born in 2000 xD 20180428 06:40:04<+discordbot> or very very very early gen z 20180428 06:40:36<+discordbot> I'd rather be gen z tbh. "Millennial" has taken on such a negative connotation 20180428 06:40:40<+discordbot> This just in: "MILLENNIALS ARE KILLING BANKS" 20180428 06:40:44<+discordbot> I have to confes 20180428 06:40:45<+discordbot> s 20180428 06:40:48<+discordbot> I thought shadowm was older as well 20180428 06:40:53<+discordbot> millenials are serial killers, apparently 20180428 06:41:16<+discordbot> millennials kill the housing market by eating avocado toast 20180428 06:41:18<+discordbot> 🙄 20180428 06:41:20<+discordbot> heh 20180428 06:41:22<+discordbot> sarcasm obviously /sarcasm 20180428 06:41:28<+discordbot> Well 20180428 06:41:38<+discordbot> Im an ancap so i guess i fit xD 20180428 06:42:10<+discordbot> Was I at least correct with my assumption with Deni? 20180428 06:42:12<+discordbot> We've killed everything ranging from the global economy to Madonna to illegal whale hunting to moon exploration missions. 20180428 06:42:35<+discordbot> Is Deni around 50 at least? Or am I insane? 20180428 06:42:42<+discordbot> Who's Deni? 20180428 06:42:53<+discordbot> Denivarius. 20180428 06:43:00<+discordbot> Oh. Dave. 20180428 06:43:02<+discordbot> nfi 20180428 06:43:07<+discordbot> [I'm a lazy boi, what do you expect?] 20180428 06:43:16<+discordbot> lol u are not insane, u are adorable master hamel 20180428 06:43:20<+discordbot> :p 20180428 06:43:39<+discordbot> I mean, thinking vultraz is around 50 is a liiiittle crazy 20180428 06:43:43<+discordbot> crimson you have a weird tendency to call people "cute" or "adorable" 20180428 06:43:47<+discordbot> boi 20180428 06:43:54<+discordbot> I suggest you tone it down 20180428 06:43:59<+discordbot> yeah its too much ;(( 20180428 06:44:02<+discordbot> alright hehe 20180428 06:45:16<+discordbot> So how old is Deni? 20180428 06:45:30<+discordbot> what about the people that developed wesnoth around 2005, how old were most of them? 30s? 20180428 06:45:52<+discordbot> No they were all necromancied skeletons. 20180428 06:46:01<+discordbot> lol... x3 20180428 06:47:10<+discordbot> Most of them are gone so who knows. 20180428 06:48:37<+discordbot> aw 20180428 06:51:21<+discordbot> so whats up :3 20180428 06:52:14<+discordbot> Well, if you have been living under a rock, then you may not have heard yet that Wesnoth is going to launch in Steam in Tuesday. 😉 20180428 06:52:27<+discordbot> ahhhh yas!! 20180428 06:52:48<+discordbot> any key differences 20180428 06:52:53<+discordbot> wait what 20180428 06:52:57<+discordbot> tf 20180428 06:52:58<+discordbot> between steam wesnoth and the normal 20180428 06:53:03<+discordbot> where did the time go 20180428 06:53:10<+discordbot> I swear it was just January 20180428 06:53:18<+discordbot> lol 😆 20180428 06:53:20<+discordbot> and now it's April? 20180428 06:53:22<+discordbot> tf 20180428 06:53:56<+discordbot> No, there aren't any differences between Steam and SourceForge versions. They're the exact same build. 20180428 06:54:09<+discordbot> okay cool :o 20180428 06:54:51<+discordbot> Unless you are on Linux, in which case I have no idea where the Steam build comes from because we don't have an official Linux build of our own. 20180428 06:55:07<+discordbot> i see 20180428 06:56:52<+discordbot> Loonycyborg built the official Steam Linux build. If I have understood correctly, the Steam build uses dependencies which are guaranteed to be present if Steam is installed (and the rest is statically linked, and thus doesn't need to be installed locally). 20180428 06:57:29<+discordbot> or a flatpak 20180428 06:57:29<+discordbot> The Steam Runtime, yeah. 20180428 06:57:58<+discordbot> We don't have an official flatpak for 1.14.0 or the 1.14 branch in general. 20180428 06:58:13<+discordbot> Or at least that's what I got from the oblique answer he gave me last time I asked. 20180428 06:58:23<+discordbot> bois so it's releasing this tuesday? 20180428 06:58:37<+discordbot> lol i remember how on the wesnothladder there is a tutorial on how to add all people on the wesnothladder as friended 20180428 06:58:47<+discordbot> and the guy made a big monologue about how we should be using linux 20180428 06:58:52<+discordbot> I asked him a few days ago, and he said there was going to be a 1.14 flatpak on Flathub 20180428 06:58:56<+discordbot> and that its ridiculous how many people use windows 20180428 06:58:58<+discordbot> lol 20180428 06:59:23<+discordbot> Glad to know they care more about proselytizing than about keeping their server secure. 20180428 06:59:44<+discordbot> proselytizing? fancy words 20180428 06:59:54<+discordbot> :3 lemme look it up hehe 20180428 07:00:28<+discordbot> oh conversion lol 20180428 07:56:14<+discordbot> Perhaps you (shadowm) should consider a screen asking for feedback at the start, if you do port AtS / IftU to 1.14? 20180428 07:56:51<+discordbot> Is that common practice among add-ons these days? 20180428 07:57:32<+discordbot> Not that I'm opposed to the idea, just curious. 20180428 07:59:17<+discordbot> No. 20180428 08:13:27-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180428 08:13:33-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20180428 09:24:02-!- clavi [~anonymous@v22018044422564167.powersrv.de] has joined #wesnoth 20180428 10:30:15-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has joined #wesnoth 20180428 12:37:01-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180428 12:37:07-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20180428 13:01:02-!- fortfoskett [~Jabo@209.6.91.232] has joined #wesnoth 20180428 13:01:33<+discordbot> somebody know what i gotta do when my addons wont show up properly anymore? i list should full of umc maps and mods. re-booted and still nothing. when checking path, my addon directory is alright with all addons where they belong to 20180428 13:01:33<+discordbot> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/439773150474141696/Screenshot_2018-04-28_13.45.55.png 20180428 13:10:19-!- fortfoskett [~Jabo@209.6.91.232] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20180428 13:15:42<+discordbot> Which of the addons you have installed don't appear? I see Afterlife survival, Ageless Era and some mod. 20180428 13:18:47< Ravana_> delete cache folder 20180428 13:20:59<+discordbot> i mentioned "my list should full of umc maps and mods". 20180428 13:21:00<+discordbot> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/439778039795154944/Screenshot_2018-04-28_16.17.59.png 20180428 13:21:06<+discordbot> ah wait a sec. 20180428 13:24:36<+discordbot> so many mods o_o 20180428 13:35:05<+discordbot> There was someone complaining in the forums as well, that era's are only shown from A to M for some reason. 20180428 13:44:33-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20180428 13:50:13<+discordbot> very odd 20180428 13:50:20<+discordbot> still in 1.14? 20180428 13:53:42< Ravana_> that list has addons that do not exist on 1.14 server 20180428 13:54:28<+discordbot> problem resolved. guess my cache was full. thanks ravana 20180428 13:54:42<+discordbot> That's... nevermind. 20180428 13:54:57< Ravana_> preprocessor errors corrupt cache until it is deleted 20180428 13:55:09<+discordbot> (I'm not surprised your cache is full. You have ageless) 20180428 13:55:28< Ravana_> ageless is just 15MB 20180428 13:55:38<+discordbot> I wonder if we should get rid of the cache mechanism 20180428 13:56:12<+discordbot> A good point was recently raised that it's possible the read-from-disk and unpack times could either exceed or match the time for preprocessing the WML over 20180428 13:56:37<+discordbot> well i think ageless is one the main reason for some players to join the mp server 20180428 13:57:57<+discordbot> (we'd have to do some benchmarks, though) 20180428 13:59:54< Ravana_> 20170603 13:28:46< Ravana_> 20170602 11:14:57< Ravana_> I wonder if there would be notable performance boost if I uploaded preprocessed addon, instead of development version with macros 20180428 14:00:04< Ravana_> 20170603 13:28:48< Ravana_> I did some testing of single-file addon vs normal folder structure. Results on HDD were: normal loading time: [1:22, 1:08, 1:34], singlefile loading time: [0:26, 0:29, 0:19, 0:19]. On SSD both versions loaded too fast to consider results useful. 20180428 14:00:22< Ravana_> I expect similar ratio with cache 20180428 14:00:47<+discordbot> 🤔 20180428 14:01:01<+discordbot> praise SSD! 20180428 14:20:46<+discordbot> Just found a nice introduction video about Wesnoth. Pretty cool. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1rPlAAzotg 20180428 14:27:43<+discordbot> 😮 20180428 14:43:14-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20180428 14:53:27<+discordbot> all those praises in the comments 20180428 15:08:10<+discordbot> what are we praising? 20180428 15:11:08<+discordbot> the sun 20180428 15:22:32<+discordbot> But it's not a chill thing to worship. 20180428 15:36:36-!- TheJJ [~rofl@ipbcc05d72.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 20180428 15:36:44<+discordbot> I like you. 20180428 15:37:52-!- TheJJ [~rofl@ipbcc05d72.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #wesnoth 20180428 15:38:32-!- Haudegen [~quassel@213162073142.public.t-mobile.at] has joined #wesnoth 20180428 15:41:23<+discordbot> Me or Vultraz? 20180428 15:53:23<+discordbot> Both. In this particular case I meant you, though, because of the pun. I like puns. 20180428 16:20:47<+discordbot> But some people feel like they are in a pungeon if I do it to much' 20180428 16:35:29-!- Haudegen [~quassel@213162073142.public.t-mobile.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20180428 17:21:32-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has joined #wesnoth 20180428 17:32:43-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20180428 17:54:22-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has joined #wesnoth 20180428 18:01:53<+discordbot> lol 20180428 18:09:05-!- sevu [~Shiki@p54855909.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20180428 18:09:18-!- sevu [~Shiki@p54855909.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180428 19:01:16-!- Bhoren [~Bhoren_wh@2a01:e0a:c:2150:3180:6cf4:11e9:c58f] has joined #wesnoth 20180428 19:47:22-!- Lirion [~m00se@wikimedia-commons/Lirion] has joined #wesnoth 20180428 19:48:30-!- claymore [~claymore@unaffiliated/claymore] has joined #wesnoth 20180428 19:53:31<+discordbot> I it in english the same that numbers below 12 are fully written and everything over in numbers. like fourth but 14th. 20180428 19:58:25<+discordbot> 10 20180428 19:58:38<+discordbot> however, this is for formal documents 20180428 19:58:40<+discordbot> I believe spelling them out up to 12 is expected in hyperformal English. 20180428 19:59:00<+discordbot> we learned 10 in my technical communication class, however, even the professor didn't care too much 20180428 19:59:18<+discordbot> I reckon the logic is that once you get to 13 the word construction becomes mechanical. 20180428 19:59:28<+discordbot> makes sense 20180428 19:59:39<+discordbot> Thir-teen, four-teen, fif-teen, twen-ty, thir-ty, and so on. 20180428 19:59:51< celticminstrel> I spell out any numbers under a hundred, generally. 20180428 19:59:53<+discordbot> Twelve is the last unique numeral basically. 20180428 20:00:06< celticminstrel> I'm pretty sure formal style guides have a similar policy? 20180428 20:00:07<+discordbot> Всем привет. Я просто зашёл сказать, что Битва за Веснот отличная игра, одна из самых моих любимых игра. Спасибо, разработчикам за это. 20180428 20:00:17<+discordbot> however if you're writing fiction, I don't know too many people who would really care 20180428 20:00:33< celticminstrel> I don't really like embedding numerals into prose, especially in dialogue. 20180428 20:00:40< celticminstrel> It doesn't "look" right. 20180428 20:00:52<+discordbot> agreed, I spell them out because it looks aesthetically better to me 20180428 20:01:00< celticminstrel> It's not so bad if it's a real number though. 20180428 20:01:01<+discordbot> (usually) 20180428 20:01:03< celticminstrel> Somehow. 20180428 20:01:12<+discordbot> (The message in Cyrilic above appears to say "Hello. I just came by to say that the Battle of Wesnoth is an excellent game, one of my favorite games. Thank you, the developers for it." in Russian, according to Google Translate.) 20180428 20:05:29<+discordbot> Right, I just want to show that BFW popular and belarusians play it too. I and my friends play it on university sometimes. 20180428 20:27:43<+discordbot> Does anyone know of a good add-on to download to have access to wood flooring for housing interiors? 20180428 20:28:27<+discordbot> for the map editor, thanks 😄 20180428 20:30:16<+discordbot> ....um. the wood floor has been in mainline for a long time? 20180428 20:32:07-!- TheRuralJuror [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has joined #wesnoth 20180428 20:32:21-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20180428 20:46:31-!- ToBeCloud [uid51591@wikimedia/ToBeFree] has joined #wesnoth 20180428 21:05:31<+discordbot> ...Idk how I missed that. I'm very sorry for wasting your time x-x 20180428 21:08:15<+discordbot> A bit late to the conversation: So there are none of the original creators of Wesnoth left? 20180428 21:09:18< celticminstrel> I don't think that matters? 20180428 21:09:36< celticminstrel> Dave is still involved in some administrative stuff IIUC, but he's not involved in development anymore. 20180428 21:09:57< celticminstrel> I could be wrong on the former, too. 20180428 21:10:46<+discordbot> He's only involved in the administration of the company that finances the project. 20180428 21:10:54<+discordbot> Well, what matters is relative in this universe. I was just curious and asked. 20180428 21:11:31<+discordbot> Also he's the only original creator, unless you count the founding artist Francisco Muñoz, who also hasn't been active for over 10 years. 20180428 21:12:21<+discordbot> Probably ought to count him I guess, since the current sprite style is based on his work (even if it has evolved significantly beyond it). 20180428 21:14:18<+discordbot> Would that be David White? 20180428 21:15:06< galegosimpatico> What matters is relative in this universe. I'm sorry what does that mean..? :neutral_face::droplet: 20180428 21:16:10<+discordbot> Dave is David White, yes. 20180428 21:18:29<+discordbot> What matters to one person might not matter to the other. What matters in one specific time frame might not matter at all in the history of the universe. Was that poorly worded? 20180428 21:19:19-!- Bhoren [~Bhoren_wh@2a01:e0a:c:2150:3180:6cf4:11e9:c58f] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20180428 21:20:59< galegosimpatico> I misunderstood _universe_. :sweat_smile: 20180428 21:22:58< galegosimpatico> In wesnoth there are so many campaigns, you can call it a _universe_. 20180428 21:23:30<+discordbot> 👍 20180428 21:30:43-!- claymore [~claymore@unaffiliated/claymore] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20180428 21:45:09<+discordbot> Hey, my name is Tobi from "ForRetro" (Group on Steam) and I promote your game, because you support a great part of retro gaming. (in 2003) I talk about "Battle for Wesnoth" (free in the future, but it's great to collect this one) My question: Can I get a promo key, to review / promote it completely? Here the link to the curator and group http://store.steampowered.com/curator/25622578/ Here is my steam too, If you interest in a 20180428 21:45:09<+discordbot> cooperation https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198081691855/ 20180428 21:47:11<+discordbot> you can download it right now on the website 20180428 21:49:05<+discordbot> But the newest version doesn't seem to be on there just yet 20180428 21:49:32< celticminstrel> @Tcapullo - You can download 1.14.0 already from sf.net if you want an early copy. 20180428 21:49:43< celticminstrel> It won't be a Steam copy, but it should be sufficient for your needs. 20180428 21:50:02< celticminstrel> I downloaded it myself earlier today. 20180428 21:52:47<+discordbot> The Steam version will be up early next week 20180428 21:56:09<+discordbot> https://sourceforge.net/projects/wesnoth/files/wesnoth-1.14/wesnoth-1.14.0/? 20180428 21:56:22< celticminstrel> Looks right. 20180428 21:58:12< celticminstrel> I think that link'll be posted to the website around the same time as the Steam version goes live. 20180428 21:59:31< celticminstrel> FTR, AFAIK the Steam build is exactly the same as the sf.net build. That may not be true forever, but I'm pretty sure it's the case ATM. 20180428 22:00:00< celticminstrel> (Even if it's ever not true though it would only be slightly different, probably in terms of an additional dll or some such.) 20180428 22:15:51-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20180428 22:36:38-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180428 22:36:45-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20180428 23:01:33-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180428 23:01:39-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth --- Log closed Sun Apr 29 00:00:42 2018