--- Log opened Sun Apr 29 00:00:42 2018 20180429 00:51:08< Polsaker> ohh neat, there's a deterministic mode built in now 20180429 01:18:36-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has joined #wesnoth 20180429 01:35:42-!- ToBeCloud [uid51591@wikimedia/ToBeFree] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 20180429 02:14:45-!- TheRuralJuror [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180429 02:38:24-!- synthpopisback [~synthpopi@cpe-2606-A000-7947-5000-4948-3BFA-2DD8-E10F.dyn6.twc.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20180429 02:39:20-!- synthpopisback [~synthpopi@cpe-2606-A000-7947-5000-4948-3BFA-2DD8-E10F.dyn6.twc.com] has joined #wesnoth 20180429 02:56:17-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has quit [Quit: So long and thanks for all the fish.] 20180429 05:34:12-!- celticminstrel is now known as celmin|sleep 20180429 07:06:00-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20180429 07:36:42-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180429 07:36:48-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20180429 09:36:37-!- gallaecio [~quassel@188.79.96.255] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180429 11:02:55-!- claymore [~claymore@unaffiliated/claymore] has joined #wesnoth 20180429 12:04:10-!- Ravana_ [~Ravana@unaffiliated/ravana/x-2327071] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20180429 12:12:57-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has joined #wesnoth 20180429 12:14:00-!- Ravana_ [~Ravana@unaffiliated/ravana/x-2327071] has joined #wesnoth 20180429 12:22:29-!- madmax28_ [~madmax28@2001-4dd3-6da9-0-ed4d-e2ff-88ac-114e.ipv6dyn.netcologne.de] has joined #wesnoth 20180429 12:23:20-!- madmax28_ [~madmax28@2001-4dd3-6da9-0-ed4d-e2ff-88ac-114e.ipv6dyn.netcologne.de] has quit [Client Quit] 20180429 13:17:55-!- gallaecio [~quassel@188.79.96.255] has joined #wesnoth 20180429 14:43:27-!- celmin|sleep is now known as celticminstrel 20180429 15:10:02-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Quit: KABOOM! It seems that I have exploded. Please wait while I reinstall the universe.] 20180429 15:10:23-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has joined #wesnoth 20180429 16:12:30-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180429 16:13:04-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20180429 17:40:50< Soliton> probably not what you think it is. 20180429 19:07:04<+discordbot> How often do you guys play AoE or RPG version of an era? I wonder if it's worth having them in my addon in the first place. 20180429 19:15:56< celticminstrel> AoE? 20180429 19:16:05<+discordbot> Age of Heroes 20180429 19:16:09< celticminstrel> Oh AoH. 20180429 19:16:19<+discordbot> ups. 20180429 19:16:19< celticminstrel> I've played AoH, though not very often. 20180429 19:16:27< celticminstrel> Mind you that's the default one. 20180429 19:27:16< Ravana_> ageless heroes has at least 2 factions that can't recruit, and noone has complained, so it doesn't seem used much 20180429 19:29:24<+discordbot> well, that's certainly one way to gauge usage 20180429 19:29:27<+discordbot> lol 20180429 19:38:41< celticminstrel> XD What 20180429 19:54:01<+discordbot> There was a way to filter whether an attack is offensive or defensive. I can't find it in the ReferenceWML. 20180429 19:54:33< Ravana_> filter for what context 20180429 19:54:39< celticminstrel> AFAIK it's not possible in FilterWML, but you'd be able to tell from the event, and abilities can distinguish too. 20180429 19:55:13<+discordbot> an effect from a trait should only apply if the attack is used offensive. 20180429 19:55:47< celticminstrel> I don't know of a way to do that. 20180429 19:56:24< celticminstrel> Although, I guess maybe you could get it working by adding a hidden weapon special and filtering for that with special_type_active... 20180429 19:56:42<+discordbot> active_on exists, but it'S for heal_on_hit. Darn it, that was what I had in mind, I think. 20180429 19:56:43< celticminstrel> But this assumes you control the attack being used. 20180429 19:57:15< celticminstrel> active_on in weapon specials might be general, and not specific to heal_on_hit? You could try it. 20180429 19:57:43<+discordbot> I will try it 20180429 19:58:02<+discordbot> Ravana's message went to the development channel for some reason 20180429 19:58:07<+discordbot> " trait effect has weapon special with filter then" 20180429 19:58:39< Ravana_> yes, current channel changed while I was writing and I didn't include channel directive in message 20180429 20:22:35<+discordbot> so, active_on does not seem to work in [effect] 20180429 20:24:12< celticminstrel> Well of course not. 20180429 20:24:22< celticminstrel> It belongs in weapon special tags. 20180429 20:25:40-!- claymore [~claymore@unaffiliated/claymore] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20180429 20:26:31< zookeeper> you might want to just say what it is you're trying to make, exactly. 20180429 20:27:18<+discordbot> It is a trait, that should give a unit +2 melee damage, but only if attacking offensive. If that unit gets attacked, it should not have this bonus. 20180429 20:29:40< zookeeper> okay, well, then you need the trait to have an [effect] that gives all of the unit's melee attacks a [damage] special that has active_on=offense and adds 2 damage. 20180429 20:31:44-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20180429 20:33:50< zookeeper> ...and if you think that's what you have and it still doesn't work, pastebin away 20180429 20:35:17-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has joined #wesnoth 20180429 20:39:15<+discordbot> #define TRAIT_IMPETUOUS # Units with trait Vampire cannot be poisoned or plagued. [trait] id=impetuous male_name= _ "impetuous" female_name= _ "female^impetuous" description= _ "2+ Damage in offensiv combat" [effect] apply_to=attack range=melee [set_special] apply_to=self id=impetuous_special 20180429 20:39:16<+discordbot> active_on=offense [damage] add=2 [/damage] [/set_special] [/effect] [/trait] #enddef 20180429 20:40:14< celticminstrel> Either something is seriously off there or the Discord bot corrupted that message really badly. 20180429 20:40:53< celticminstrel> The contents of [set_special] are identical to the contents of [specials] (plus maybe a mode key or something). 20180429 20:41:20< zookeeper> surely it should be [set_specials], not [set_special] 20180429 20:42:26<+discordbot> indeed. 20180429 20:43:01< celticminstrel> Yeah whatever. 20180429 20:43:20< celticminstrel> And I think you might need something like mode=append unless that's default, I forget. 20180429 20:46:48< zookeeper> it very very likely is 20180429 20:47:37<+discordbot> default is replace, according to the wiki. Without append, it was shown in the GUI on the right that the 2 dmg where added, but it had the normal values when attacking. now trying with mode=append 20180429 20:48:40< zookeeper> really? huh, okay then. 20180429 20:52:00< Ravana_> that trait already exists on orcs, its called aggressive iirc 20180429 20:53:34< Ravana_> https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=607803#p607803 20180429 20:56:44<+discordbot> I think it was discussed, but never implemented. 20180429 20:57:19< Ravana_> it has zip file attached 20180429 20:57:55< Ravana_> haven't downloaded it, but I find it likely it was implemented 20180429 20:58:03< celticminstrel> @Bitron Without append, it'll likely work perfectly on units that don't have another damage special, but on units that do it's just (partly?) morph that damage special into this one. 20180429 21:20:01-!- DeFender2048 [~danf@pool-71-191-76-213.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wesnoth 20180429 21:25:57-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20180429 21:26:38-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has joined #wesnoth 20180429 21:27:37<+discordbot> lol when you said AoE I thought of Age of Empires 20180429 21:28:05<+discordbot> 🕍 20180429 21:32:58< celticminstrel> Me too. 20180429 21:35:07<+discordbot> wololo 20180429 21:37:19< celticminstrel> ... 20180429 21:37:40<+discordbot> Yeah I guess that's where it came from in my mind. That trait still doesn't work properly. It is active on both offense and defense, even though I specify the active-on 20180429 21:45:34-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has joined #wesnoth 20180429 21:47:19< zookeeper> you don't specify active_on for the weapon special. 20180429 21:48:45< zookeeper> you have it in [set_specials] where it has no meaning. 20180429 22:00:35< celticminstrel> ^ 20180429 22:05:04-!- DeFender2048 [~danf@pool-71-191-76-213.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20180429 22:12:07<+discordbot> also what are your guys's favorite protein bars? 😋 20180429 22:12:37<+discordbot> hotdogs 20180429 22:13:51<+discordbot> a hotdog flavored protein bar? o.O XD 20180429 22:14:01<+discordbot> cute :P but im a vegetarian sorry 😢 20180429 22:14:10<+discordbot> ಠ_ಠ 20180429 22:15:57<+discordbot> Holy creep. That attached code for the trait is far more than the few lines I typed. O_O 20180429 22:17:33< celticminstrel> ??? 20180429 22:19:42<+discordbot> In ravanas link. 20180429 22:22:57-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20180429 22:44:37-!- DeFender2048 [~danf@pool-71-191-76-213.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wesnoth 20180429 22:49:33-!- DeFender2048 [~danf@pool-71-191-76-213.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20180429 22:53:04-!- gallaecio [~quassel@188.79.96.255] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180429 23:52:07<+discordbot> @Pentarctagon I just saw your response to their post, and I got it, and it made me laugh. I had a sucky week, and that really helped lift my spirit. Thank you. 20180429 23:59:52-!- DeFender2048 [~danf@2601:155:4301:341d:c08:9090:90d4:df11] has joined #wesnoth --- Log closed Mon Apr 30 00:00:43 2018