--- Log opened Wed May 09 00:00:10 2018 20180509 00:19:02-!- APic [apic@apic.name] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20180509 00:20:05-!- APic [apic@apic.name] has joined #wesnoth 20180509 00:51:15-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has joined #wesnoth 20180509 01:45:29<+discordbot4> BTW: love those spiderweb assets 20180509 01:46:28<+discordbot4> compare FtF's: 20180509 01:46:32<+discordbot4> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/443589545515286531/unknown.png 20180509 01:46:52<+discordbot4> 😢 20180509 01:49:37< Ravana_> spiders could have ability that leaves such web on ground, that slows nonspiders that step there 20180509 02:02:15-!- synthpopisback [~synthpopi@cpe-2606-A000-7947-5000-1865-7A40-ADE8-9715.dyn6.twc.com] has joined #wesnoth 20180509 02:12:03< celticminstrel> @dcr981 What am I comparing this to? 20180509 02:12:12< celticminstrel> I'm assuming there was another image posted before I came in. 20180509 02:12:35< celticminstrel> ...hey, what's the little bird? Phoenix? 20180509 02:13:33<+discordbot4> It looks like the old Basilisk. 20180509 02:13:43< celticminstrel> Cockatrice, huh. 20180509 02:13:49<+discordbot4> Cockatrice I mean. 20180509 02:14:12< celticminstrel> I had no idea there had ever been one. 20180509 02:14:29<+discordbot4> HttT used to have a scenario with those. 20180509 02:14:33< celticminstrel> Oh my. 20180509 02:14:47< celticminstrel> What happened to petrified troops? 20180509 02:15:13<+discordbot4> They stayed that way. 20180509 02:15:26< celticminstrel> :( 20180509 02:15:30<+discordbot4> Until you found a mirror or something in the scenario and shattered it. 20180509 02:15:38< celticminstrel> Oh. 20180509 02:16:33<+discordbot4> Someone made a better Cockatrice later, which is used in IftU. 20180509 02:16:53< celticminstrel> So anyway, was there some other spiderweb that someone posted to compare to dcr981's? 20180509 02:17:01<+discordbot4> I didn't see any other spider web, either 20180509 02:17:04<+discordbot4> better as in stronger? 20180509 02:17:08<+discordbot4> or better as in better looking 20180509 02:17:11<+discordbot4> No, better sprites. 20180509 02:17:15<+discordbot4> okkay 20180509 02:17:23<+discordbot4> More on par with the 1.2+ mainline style. 20180509 02:25:46< celticminstrel> The acronym tag doesn't like special characters. :/ (quotes / apostrophes at least) 20180509 02:26:16< celticminstrel> Maybe only those, commas at least are fine. 20180509 02:30:50<+discordbot4> I can't do anything about that. 20180509 02:31:10< celticminstrel> Oh well. 20180509 02:31:22< celticminstrel> ...I wonder if I could've worked around it by using smart quotes. 20180509 02:31:34< celticminstrel> Uh. 20180509 02:31:50<+discordbot4> Non-ASCII quotes should work, yes. 20180509 02:31:54< celticminstrel> Curly quotes. Smart quotes refers to a feature that auto-substitutes straight quotes with curly ones depending on context. 20180509 02:32:26< celticminstrel> Nope, doesn't work. Oh well. 20180509 02:32:56< celticminstrel> Even guillemots don't work. 20180509 02:42:59<+discordbot4> What on earth are you even trying to do with [acronym]? 20180509 02:45:06< celticminstrel> Adding a snarky comment to the acronym expansion. 20180509 02:51:01<+discordbot4> @J_MASTER ahahahah remember me <3 we played and u tried rush strats against me aha xD 20180509 02:51:16<+discordbot4> i feel like knowing the map really well is a necessity for rushes? 20180509 03:06:53<+discordbot4> Was comparing FtF's crappy spiderweb with Secrets of the Ancients' amazing spiderweb, posted by VYNLT 20180509 03:07:23<+discordbot4> and the unit in my screenshot is actually a chicken, not a cockatrice. I just created something to reveal the shroud for the shot 20180509 03:07:47<+discordbot4> Well, it's clearly based on the original Cockatrice. 20180509 03:08:00< celticminstrel> Ah. 20180509 03:08:15< celticminstrel> So SotA has a nice spiderweb then, huh. 20180509 03:10:31< celticminstrel> Does it have any mechanical effects or just look nice? 20180509 03:11:55-!- gallaecio [~quassel@188.79.96.255] has joined #wesnoth 20180509 03:30:53<+discordbot4> the spiderwebs make the terrain unwalkable 20180509 03:36:13< celticminstrel> Awww, boring. 20180509 04:04:15-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Quit: And lo! 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I don’t think it’d bad at all especially if you are new and still learning, and it’s your first time playing the scenario. 20180509 06:14:19<+discordbot4> Also resetting a round and trying to look at how you could have done things differently can be helpful 20180509 06:14:32<+discordbot4> I'm not into mp at all if that's what you are asking 20180509 06:14:52<+discordbot4> I mean, if you're just playing on your own, you do whatever you want 20180509 06:14:58<+discordbot4> ye I've been thinking about trying doing campaigns in the new mode 20180509 06:15:24<+discordbot4> Often when a unit dies your strategy might not have been optimal, in which case it’s less about trying to get the unit to survive that one attack again and more about trying something else (not attacking, moving them, using a different unit, etc.) 20180509 06:15:50<+discordbot4> ye I'm learning that with the new campaign 20180509 06:16:14<+discordbot4> my mistake is often being too greedy with the recalls 20180509 06:16:24-!- gallaecio [~quassel@148.red-83-37-165.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has joined #wesnoth 20180509 06:16:48<+discordbot4> The thing you’ll see quickly is the AI will go after the weakest unit within range 20180509 06:17:05<+discordbot4> yup I know the candy strat xD 20180509 06:17:18<+discordbot4> if someone's low just give em a juicier candy you don't mind losing 20180509 06:17:38<+discordbot4> A really good player will take advantage of that and sacrifice a weaker unit to divert the opposing forces from the rest of their troops. 20180509 06:17:56<+discordbot4> right now I'm stuck with the spider scenario 20180509 06:17:56<+discordbot4> or you can play like me and play to not lose any units 😂 20180509 06:18:03<+discordbot4> in campaigns, I mean 20180509 06:18:19<+discordbot4> @Yumi “Ironman” mode? 20180509 06:18:24<+discordbot4> that's something I'm probably not prepared for xD 20180509 06:18:27<+discordbot4> is that what it's called? 20180509 06:18:54<+discordbot4> That’s when you don’t save game scum 20180509 06:19:14<+discordbot4> god that feels annoying to do 20180509 06:19:16<+discordbot4> the extent of my save scumming is starting scenarios (but not the whole campaign) over 20180509 06:19:28<+discordbot4> Fair 20180509 06:19:31<+discordbot4> Oh my 20180509 06:19:36<+discordbot4> wait wait 20180509 06:19:49<+discordbot4> is it even possible to do a campaign without saving one scenario? 20180509 06:19:56<+discordbot4> I think someone did it for HttT 20180509 06:20:10<+discordbot4> god that looks hardcore 20180509 06:20:11<+discordbot4> personally, I don't think it's that hard 20180509 06:20:16<+discordbot4> Without saving? 20180509 06:20:21<+discordbot4> I mean, the game autosaves 20180509 06:20:24<+discordbot4> I mean it's rng 20180509 06:20:25<+discordbot4> I can run through almost all the campaigns without having to reload 20180509 06:20:29<+discordbot4> at all 20180509 06:20:43<+discordbot4> however, doing a no-loss playthrough is a little harder 20180509 06:20:47<+discordbot4> have to play scenarios multiple times, sometimes 20180509 06:21:13<+discordbot4> I do no recalls but it's kind of hard to do sometimes 20180509 06:21:20<+discordbot4> you should be recalling in campaigns 20180509 06:21:32<+discordbot4> I know it's just a challenge 20180509 06:21:43<+discordbot4> whenever a unit hits it's max lvl I don't recall it till last scenario 20180509 06:21:51<+discordbot4> What's great is recalling level 3 units and having no income left 20180509 06:21:58<+discordbot4> imagine trying to play something like NR with no recalls 😬 20180509 06:22:20<+discordbot4> I love recalling all my 30 lvl 3 units last scenario in the north alliance 20180509 06:22:40<+discordbot4> feels good to be recruiting same lvl as enemy 20180509 06:23:14<+discordbot4> only thing is the outpost scenario in the new campaign looks impossible without recalls 20180509 06:23:59<+discordbot4> probably depends on what difficulty you play on 20180509 06:25:17<+discordbot4> I'm on hard it's like 10 spiders 20180509 06:25:35<+discordbot4> oh that scenario 20180509 06:25:59<+discordbot4> right now I'm trying the traffic jam strat 20180509 06:26:14<+discordbot4> trying to fight them in a 2x2 spot 20180509 06:26:49<+discordbot4> I think IftU is also impossible without any veterans in the boss levels 20180509 06:26:57<+discordbot4> (if you lose most/all o fthem) 20180509 06:27:15<+discordbot4> oh it's been long since I played that campaign 20180509 06:27:23<+discordbot4> it's been reworked 20180509 06:27:27<+discordbot4> oh cool 20180509 06:27:36<+discordbot4> probably gonna play it after this one then 20180509 06:27:48<+discordbot4> not on 1.14 yet, but soon (?) 20180509 06:27:57<+discordbot4> I'm also hyped to do another run on LotI 20180509 06:28:45<+discordbot4> ok ghost 2x2 strat didn't work 20180509 06:30:50<+discordbot4> really? 20180509 06:31:00<+discordbot4> oh, you mean lvl 1 ghosts 20180509 06:31:38<+discordbot4> yup 20180509 06:31:50<+discordbot4> if they hit 2 times I lose 20180509 06:33:42<+discordbot4> wait there are more... 20180509 06:41:24-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has joined #wesnoth 20180509 06:57:48-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20180509 07:47:58-!- hk238 [~kvirc@a458.ip20.netikka.fi] has joined #wesnoth 20180509 08:45:58-!- gfg [~androirc@ersc144.goemobile.de] has joined #wesnoth 20180509 09:05:54-!- gfg [~androirc@ersc144.goemobile.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180509 09:06:17-!- gfg [~androirc@ersc144.goemobile.de] has joined #wesnoth 20180509 09:19:01-!- gfg [~androirc@ersc144.goemobile.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180509 09:30:55<+discordbot4> I just started SotA and I confess I've been save-scumming... not to win, but just to feed exp to the desired unit. 20180509 09:32:22<+discordbot4> like sometimes the unit I want to weaken the enemy accidentally kills it instead, or then after weakening the enemy then the one I want to give exp misses all their hits 20180509 09:34:40<+discordbot4> maybe I should make a non-lethal mod, where you can order one of your units not to completely kill the enemy 20180509 09:36:24<+discordbot4> then you can have your mage overkill somebody and it'll be left with exactly 1 hp 20180509 09:54:53-!- Bhoren [~Bhoren_wh@2a01:e0a:c:2150:e0c7:c93e:10f1:adb1] has joined #wesnoth 20180509 10:31:03<+discordbot4> sota doesnt need save load 20180509 10:31:17<+discordbot4> your simpler tactics revolving around dwarf fighter and shield dude only 20180509 10:31:37<+discordbot4> shielder for cannon folder purposes, not to rank 20180509 10:32:13<+discordbot4> you rank 70% of your fighter normal, 30% magic to contain damage and pressure high dodge rate nutshells 20180509 10:32:51<+discordbot4> no need for thunder, and mostly no need for explorer 20180509 10:33:39<+discordbot4> reason why I wont buy explorer is because I find dwarf fighter's magic hit line is so abusive in this series that hardly would need to rank the mixed fighter type anymore 20180509 10:34:44<+discordbot4> crap 20180509 10:34:46<+discordbot4> its sota 20180509 10:34:51<+discordbot4> not sceptre of fire 20180509 10:34:56<+discordbot4> forget what I said lol 20180509 10:35:06<+discordbot4> I didnt try this new campaign yet 20180509 10:39:12-!- gfg [~androirc@134.76.63.8] has joined #wesnoth 20180509 10:41:39-!- gfgt [~androirc@134.76.63.8] has joined #wesnoth 20180509 10:41:39-!- gfg [~androirc@134.76.63.8] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20180509 10:48:21-!- gfgt [~androirc@134.76.63.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20180509 11:15:16-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180509 11:25:01<+discordbot4> you should 20180509 11:25:04<+discordbot4> its pretty good 20180509 11:25:12<+discordbot4> and for mainline, it has a lot of unique features 20180509 11:27:51<+discordbot4> two specific units that aren't that important (and it doesnt matter whether or not theyr'e alive) have some unique dialogue in places if they remain alive, you can convert Necromancers to Liches later in the campaign (through a special right-click command that was added and yes, there is also an Ancient Lich promotion just like in Descent Into Darkness, theres even one unique Ancient Lich model exclusive to one lich from this campaign), 20180509 11:27:52<+discordbot4> etc. 20180509 11:28:39<+discordbot4> for mainline it has a lot of creative ideas 20180509 11:29:54<+discordbot4> some scenarios even require you to get quite creative with your strategies, it seems hard at first but if you use the right strategy, the specific part becomes pretty easy, i posted a good example yesterday 20180509 11:30:00<+discordbot4> i can post it again here if you dont mind spoilers 20180509 11:30:35<+discordbot4> but yeah, Secrets of the Ancients is well done so far from what i played of it 20180509 11:30:46<+discordbot4> definetly may be one of my favorites from mainline 20180509 12:13:09-!- Haudegen [~quassel@212-186-77-29.static.upcbusiness.at] has joined #wesnoth 20180509 12:15:30-!- gfgt [~androirc@134.76.63.8] has joined #wesnoth 20180509 12:22:29-!- gfgt [~androirc@134.76.63.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20180509 12:29:16-!- gfgt [~androirc@ersc130.goemobile.de] has joined #wesnoth 20180509 12:33:35-!- gfgt [~androirc@ersc130.goemobile.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20180509 12:47:20-!- gfgt [~androirc@ersc144.goemobile.de] has joined #wesnoth 20180509 13:03:12-!- vladimirslavik [vslavik@nat/redhat/x-iwvzallzosfkaxvk] has joined #wesnoth 20180509 13:03:21-!- vladimirslavik [vslavik@nat/redhat/x-iwvzallzosfkaxvk] has quit [Client Quit] 20180509 13:04:35-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has quit [Quit: mattsc] 20180509 13:07:25-!- gfgt [~androirc@ersc144.goemobile.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180509 13:08:13-!- gfgt [~androirc@ersc144.goemobile.de] has joined #wesnoth 20180509 13:10:47-!- gfgt [~androirc@ersc144.goemobile.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180509 13:14:16-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has joined #wesnoth 20180509 13:25:23<+discordbot4> I’m surprised 20180509 13:35:12<+discordbot4> Finished Secret of the Ancients today... No spoil but that last scenario was hard 20180509 13:35:21<+discordbot4> Prepare for it 20180509 13:45:45-!- gfgt [~androirc@ersc130.goemobile.de] has joined #wesnoth 20180509 13:48:43-!- gfgt [~androirc@ersc130.goemobile.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20180509 13:49:24<+discordbot4> ah 20180509 13:49:36<+discordbot4> yeah its pretty hard at times though with a creative strategy you can get around 20180509 13:49:52<+discordbot4> there was this one cave scenario where i had to face a whole army of giant spiders 20180509 13:50:01<+discordbot4> as in, like 8 of them at a time (there were two groups) 20180509 13:50:29<+discordbot4> and considering giant spiders deal a fuckton of damage (both ranged and melee, not to mention the ranged slow effect) i was worried at first even with 4 liches at my disposal 20180509 13:51:36<+discordbot4> i used narrow spots ultimately so i would have the liches face one spider at a time, then retreat a lich whenever they'd take too much damage and replace him with another 20180509 13:51:42<+discordbot4> and i essentially did that until all of the spiders were dead 20180509 13:51:55-!- gfgt [~androirc@ersc130.goemobile.de] has joined #wesnoth 20180509 13:52:15< janebot> wesnoth: How long does a 2-4 player multiplayer game usually lasts? (by /u/The_Red_Kraken) https://redd.it/8i64li 20180509 13:53:46<+discordbot4> @VYNLT#5393 I just tricked them in corners and used ghosts. 20180509 13:54:01<+discordbot4> Ghosts are really powerful in this campaign 20180509 13:54:05<+discordbot4> oh really? 20180509 13:54:10<+discordbot4> i guess i must have used em badly 20180509 13:54:19<+discordbot4> they never appealed much to me due to their low damage before promotion 20180509 13:54:41<+discordbot4> At this point they should all be Lv 2-3 no? 20180509 13:54:41<+discordbot4> besides i preffered having Draugr, Death Knights and Banebows with high damage (plus that leadership bonus) 20180509 13:54:47<+discordbot4> i didnt really use ghosts 20180509 13:54:53<+discordbot4> i focused more on skellies (skeletons) 20180509 13:55:00<+discordbot4> and Dark Adepts to get necromancers 20180509 13:55:04<+discordbot4> (and change them to liches) 20180509 13:56:09<+discordbot4> Well there is many reasons to use ghosts, first they are really mobile and can go though most terrains, second they don’t die quite often... 20180509 13:56:21<+discordbot4> true 20180509 13:56:24<+discordbot4> plus high dodge 20180509 13:56:29<+discordbot4> Yeah 20180509 13:56:47<+discordbot4> What scenario you are at? 20180509 13:57:20<+discordbot4> the one with the trolls in the cave 20180509 13:57:24<+discordbot4> right after the spider one 20180509 13:57:34-!- gfgt [~androirc@ersc130.goemobile.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20180509 13:58:03<+discordbot4> Oh... ghosts are also the key here k 20180509 13:58:11<+discordbot4> Skeletons are mostly garbage 20180509 13:58:16<+discordbot4> ehh, im managing well enough imo with death knights, draugr and liches 20180509 13:58:19<+discordbot4> Since there are lots of trolls 20180509 13:58:30<+discordbot4> not to mention i kept the Saurian alive to have a healer to help me out 20180509 13:58:34<+discordbot4> Yeah and the lich 20180509 13:58:42<+discordbot4> Mine died :( 20180509 13:58:47<+discordbot4> I liked that guy 20180509 13:58:49<+discordbot4> who? 20180509 13:59:01<+discordbot4> The Saurian 20180509 13:59:08<+discordbot4> yeah 20180509 13:59:15<+discordbot4> undead have no healers so the Saurian was really useful 20180509 13:59:23<+discordbot4> he's quite weak but i am not willing to lose a healer 20180509 13:59:33<+discordbot4> especially for undead (or dwarves since they dont have healers either) 20180509 14:00:00<+discordbot4> You should keep him off fighting, I didn’t need him for that 20180509 14:00:04<+discordbot4> yeah i do that 20180509 14:00:07<+discordbot4> Since he was... dead 20180509 14:00:08<+discordbot4> he sucks at fighting lol 20180509 14:00:57<+discordbot4> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/443452865986560000/unknown.png i shat my pants when i first saw this on the previous scenario lol (of course i didnt have to worry but, well, this many strong units + arachophobia, not that it bothers me much in the game but just saying) 20180509 14:01:05<+discordbot4> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/443460190793105408/unknown.png and then this 20180509 14:01:13<+discordbot4> 2 groups, each with 8-9 spiders 20180509 14:01:25<+discordbot4> and i think we both know that spiders are OP in this game 20180509 14:01:50<+discordbot4> Yeah they’re annoying af 20180509 14:02:01<+discordbot4> you also have to be fast, otherwise you lose all your turns 20180509 14:03:23<+discordbot4> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/443458772346863645/unknown.png i mean JUST LOOK AT THESE STATS 20180509 14:03:35<+discordbot4> even an ancient lich doesnt last long against a spider in this game if RNG isnt on your side 20180509 14:04:01<+discordbot4> that fucking slow effect 20180509 14:04:45<+discordbot4> i mean sure Ancient Liches are stupid-OP as well but still 20180509 14:05:01<+discordbot4> Instead of taking screenshots, you can simply link to the unit database: http://units.wesnoth.org/1.14/mainline/en_US/Giant%20Spider.html 20180509 14:05:12<+discordbot4> oh, sorry 20180509 14:05:37<+discordbot4> It's not against the rules or anything. Linking would just be easier. 😃 20180509 14:10:35< Ravana_> for players I give slightly weaker spider https://units.wesnoth.org/1.14/Ageless_Era/en_US/AE_ext_monsters_Overgrown_Spider.html 20180509 14:11:58-!- gfgt [~androirc@ersc130.goemobile.de] has joined #wesnoth 20180509 14:12:27<+discordbot4> im not saying giant spiders should be weaker tbh i mean, they're huge 8-legged chitin plated spiders 20180509 14:12:42<+discordbot4> they have the weight to fuck you up, they have the fangs to hurt you (and the venom to make sure you actually DIE) 20180509 14:12:47<+discordbot4> they have the web to catch you in 20180509 14:12:58<+discordbot4> they're sneaky AND fast 20180509 14:46:22<+discordbot4> no one discussing the Cattle for Wesnoth anymore 20180509 14:46:24<+discordbot4> feelsbadman 20180509 14:49:59< Bhoren> hi zookeeper, I was wondering if you where in need of more picture 20180509 14:51:38< zookeeper> Bhoren, ah, hmm. more for AOI, or for another campaign? 20180509 14:51:51< Bhoren> as you wish 20180509 14:52:12-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has quit [Quit: mattsc] 20180509 14:52:45<+discordbot4> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/443787403136860160/unknown.png 20180509 14:53:55-!- Smedles [~quassel@101.166.201.190] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20180509 14:55:23<+discordbot4> xD 20180509 14:55:50< zookeeper> Bhoren, well, partly depends on how many you might be willing to do, i guess. 20180509 14:56:47< Bhoren> I'd love to do many, but I wont have much time after a few days, so it also depends on how urgent everything is 20180509 14:57:02< zookeeper> i mean, we could design a single image for any campaign without any story art, but if you're willing to do a bigger set then some campaigns might be more preferable than others. 20180509 14:59:31< zookeeper> i'm inclined to suggest dead water, son of the black-eye or sceptre of fire. they have a lot of story text and no current art, and i think they're all campaigns for which we could come up with an idea for a single image that would work. 20180509 15:01:05<+discordbot4> wesnoth memes? 20180509 15:01:07<+discordbot4> count me in 20180509 15:02:56< Bhoren> Alright, if you have a favourite, then we can go with it! Otherwise, I'll take a look at each of them. 20180509 15:03:07< zookeeper> Bhoren, maybe also secrets of the ancients; that seems suitable too (all the story text is diary entries), considering the current story art is based on screenshots with old terrain and stuff and would need an update anyway... 20180509 15:03:50< zookeeper> i can try to come up with some kind of rough idea for each one, if you want. 20180509 15:04:19< Bhoren> Each campaign? 20180509 15:04:21< zookeeper> yeah 20180509 15:04:44< Bhoren> Seems good to me 20180509 15:05:09<+discordbot4> how about some of the diary entry pictures are the character writing on it 20180509 15:05:12<+discordbot4> as in, shown to write 20180509 15:07:12< zookeeper> Bhoren, all right then, i'll see if i can manage to get to it tonight already 20180509 15:07:54< Bhoren> Ok, I have full free time from now to about Sunday, I'll be able to get things done(tm) 20180509 15:08:51< zookeeper> @VYNLT, something like that, yes. well, maybe just the diary, since the skeletal hand would be kind of a spoiler (well, not really, but still)... 20180509 15:09:45<+discordbot4> how about the writer wearing gloves? 20180509 15:09:57<+discordbot4> to not show whether the hand is flesh or bone 20180509 15:09:58< zookeeper> ah, true, that might work. 20180509 15:10:54< Bhoren> I'll need to catch up with the campaing story 20180509 15:12:00< zookeeper> Bhoren, as said, for SotA i think a diary on a table in a gloomy environment would work. the story text is basically the diary of someone who went from novice mage to a lich, so there could be some necromantic paraphenalia and such on display too. 20180509 15:12:24< Bhoren> Could be fun 20180509 15:12:46< zookeeper> VYNLT's idea of there also being a shadowy figure writing it (with a gloved hand if necessary) sounds good too, if it can be made to work in practise. 20180509 15:12:58< Bhoren> The book could get more "magicky", complex and complete as the campaign goes 20180509 15:13:20-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has joined #wesnoth 20180509 15:15:30< zookeeper> maybe, although if/since there's nothing spoilerific about the image, then it could basically just depict the writing of the last entry. since the text is diary entries, it can be seen as being sort of in past tense WRT the image. 20180509 15:18:09<+discordbot4> yeah 20180509 15:18:11< Bhoren> (going to play it so I can know this campaign a bit better) 20180509 15:18:12<+discordbot4> or have two versions 20180509 15:18:17<+discordbot4> one where the writer has normal human hands 20180509 15:18:21<+discordbot4> and another with skeletal lich hands 20180509 15:19:56< Bhoren> Maybe 20180509 15:20:57< zookeeper> that doesn't make much logical sense though, so i'm a bit sceptical 20180509 15:21:10< Bhoren> Oh, I remember this one. I could change the tile/sprite illustration with actual illustrations. I would take time but could be nice 20180509 15:27:41< zookeeper> when sketching out the image, you might want to design it so that the most important bits of the image aren't too covered up by the story text bar. 20180509 15:27:45< zookeeper> anyways, i'm off for now -> 20180509 15:37:36-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180509 15:37:42-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20180509 15:43:48-!- Haudegen [~quassel@212-186-77-29.static.upcbusiness.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180509 15:45:02-!- gfgt [~androirc@ersc130.goemobile.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20180509 15:48:58-!- gallaecio [~quassel@148.red-83-37-165.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20180509 16:08:27-!- gallaecio [~quassel@188.79.96.255] has joined #wesnoth 20180509 17:01:19-!- DeFender1031 [~DeFender1@89-138-218-118.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #wesnoth 20180509 17:06:25-!- hk238 [~kvirc@a458.ip20.netikka.fi] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 5.0.0 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/] 20180509 17:17:29-!- gallaecio [~quassel@188.79.96.255] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 20180509 17:18:35-!- gallaecio [~quassel@188.79.96.255] has joined #wesnoth 20180509 17:30:11-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has quit [Quit: So long and thanks for all the fish.] 20180509 17:33:00-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has joined #wesnoth 20180509 17:40:52-!- iwaim [~iwaim@2001:2c0:40e:2002:0:4:14:80] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20180509 18:12:23-!- DeFender1031 [~DeFender1@89-138-218-118.bb.netvision.net.il] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180509 18:12:41-!- DeFender1031 [~DeFender1@89-138-218-118.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #wesnoth 20180509 18:14:37-!- Marcgal [~m@2a02:a317:2241:7a00:5922:4c64:d760:e1d4] has joined #wesnoth 20180509 18:15:03< Marcgal> Wow. Ageless seems to FLOOD chat with WML warnings 20180509 18:15:33< Marcgal> Invalid WML found: [unstore_unit]: variable 'add_wardrums_special[]' doesn't exist 20180509 18:21:22< Ravana_> no time to fix yet https://github.com/ProditorMagnus/Ageless-for-1-11/issues 20180509 18:21:56< Ravana_> those with blocker suggest units that are better to avoid for now 20180509 18:28:14< Marcgal> Ravana_: OK thanks for info 20180509 18:28:40< Marcgal> (isn't it too early to release Ageless yet, though? in that case) 20180509 18:29:32< Ravana_> not really - there are around 100 factions, and those problems only affect 3 of them 20180509 18:50:20-!- iwaim [~iwaim@rasteenie.alib.jp] has joined #wesnoth 20180509 19:13:07<+discordbot4> Someone needs to make one of those 'Who would win' wesnoth memes 20180509 19:13:54<+discordbot4> like Who would win: The great loyalist kingdom of the great mages who rose the two suns, or just sum kiddo desert elf? 20180509 19:14:39<+discordbot4> lol 20180509 19:32:51< Marcgal> I fought... and succeeded... at withholding from some snide comments in response to the above 20180509 19:33:02<+discordbot4> hold up 100 factions whay 20180509 19:33:04<+discordbot4> what 20180509 19:42:57-!- gallaecio [~quassel@188.79.96.255] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20180509 19:43:15-!- gallaecio [~quassel@188.79.96.255] has joined #wesnoth 20180509 19:47:48<+discordbot4> Hello 😃 20180509 19:48:20-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20180509 19:48:25< Ravana_> feel free to count https://units.wesnoth.org/1.14/Ageless_Era/en_US/Ageless%20Era.html 20180509 20:00:18-!- Marcgal [~m@2a02:a317:2241:7a00:5922:4c64:d760:e1d4] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20180509 20:21:46-!- gfgt [~androirc@x4e32b7af.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #wesnoth 20180509 20:29:10-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has joined #wesnoth 20180509 20:32:52-!- Bhoren [~Bhoren_wh@2a01:e0a:c:2150:e0c7:c93e:10f1:adb1] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180509 20:51:35-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has joined #wesnoth 20180509 20:59:18< janebot> wesnoth: Wesnoth 1.14.1 is out! (by /u/ShikadiQueen) https://redd.it/8i9f9p 20180509 21:00:45< galegosimpatico> Damn, can't read. 20180509 21:02:07< galegosimpatico> 20180509 21:03:20<+discordbot4> where the f is the changelog 20180509 21:04:54<+discordbot4> In the topic. 20180509 21:06:44<+discordbot4> don't see it. 20180509 21:06:48<+discordbot4> oh 20180509 21:06:57<+discordbot4> i was clicking the forums.wesnoth.org link on the right 20180509 21:07:29<+discordbot4> hard to explain other stuff about it 20180509 21:07:40<+discordbot4> but yeah i only could click on it from the subreddit main page 20180509 21:07:44<+discordbot4> not if i clicked on the link 20180509 21:15:58< janebot> Tweet (by @Wesnoth) Version 1.14.1 is out! https://r.wesnoth.org/t48156 #gamedev [ https://twitter.com/Wesnoth/status/994325123137089536 ] 20180509 21:48:48-!- louis94 [~~louis94@91.176.171.238] has joined #wesnoth 20180509 22:00:38-!- gfgt [~androirc@x4e32b7af.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20180509 22:00:46-!- gfgt [~androirc@x4e32b7af.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #wesnoth 20180509 22:08:17-!- louis94 [~~louis94@91.176.171.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20180509 22:25:24-!- gfgt [~androirc@x4e32b7af.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20180509 22:32:58-!- gfgt [~androirc@x4e32b7af.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #wesnoth 20180509 22:34:17-!- louis94 [~~louis94@91.176.171.238] has joined #wesnoth 20180509 22:35:43-!- louis94 [~~louis94@91.176.171.238] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20180509 22:41:09-!- louis94 [~~louis94@91.176.171.238] has joined #wesnoth 20180509 22:43:40<+discordbot4> switched from the dev chan over Wll, didn't want to say it wasn#t sensible 20180509 22:59:29-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20180509 22:59:33-!- gallaecio [~quassel@188.79.96.255] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180509 23:23:59<+discordbot4> @Crimson_Conure 20180509 23:23:59<+discordbot4> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/443916056801837069/unknown.png 20180509 23:31:31<+discordbot4> @SsIraS Nicely done!!! 👍 :)) xD <3 20180509 23:31:33<+discordbot4> That is cool lol 20180509 23:31:44-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180509 23:31:57<+discordbot4> although to be fair i was expecting more slangish language OwO 20180509 23:32:04<+discordbot4> like 'just some random slave' 20180509 23:35:27<+discordbot4> in order to pay you back, I will make one myself! :] 20180509 23:37:21<+discordbot4> the only way 20180509 23:37:22<+discordbot4> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/443919421610917888/unknown.png 20180509 23:37:46<+discordbot4> Lol you are very creative <3 good sir! :p 20180509 23:37:52<+discordbot4> ahahahahaha BERSERK!! OwO 20180509 23:38:20<+discordbot4> is there another strategy when playing dwarves? 20180509 23:38:22<+discordbot4> that would go good with the expanding brain meme 20180509 23:38:23<+discordbot4> I don't think so 20180509 23:38:28<+discordbot4> the knalgan recruitment choices 20180509 23:38:30<+discordbot4> yeah 20180509 23:38:32<+discordbot4> good idea 20180509 23:38:34<+discordbot4> <3 20180509 23:39:21<+discordbot4> Griffon Horde dwarves 20180509 23:47:58<+discordbot4> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/443922094145798159/iwi.PNG 20180509 23:54:05<+discordbot4> a decade of art later and shes still just as sexy as when i first saw her 20180509 23:55:39-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has joined #wesnoth --- Log closed Thu May 10 00:00:40 2018