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It seems that I have exploded. Please wait while I reinstall the universe.] 20180618 04:47:02-!- gallaecio [~quassel@188.79.96.255] has joined #wesnoth 20180618 05:26:51-!- HeyCitizen [~HeyCitize@sttrpq3809w-lp130-03-67-68-202-204.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #wesnoth 20180618 05:31:20-!- HeyCitizen [~HeyCitize@sttrpq3809w-lp130-03-67-68-202-204.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20180618 05:40:38-!- HeyCitizen [~HeyCitize@sttrpq3809w-lp130-03-67-68-202-204.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #wesnoth 20180618 05:45:12-!- HeyCitizen [~HeyCitize@sttrpq3809w-lp130-03-67-68-202-204.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20180618 05:49:53-!- HeyCitizen [HeyCitizen@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/heycitizen] has joined #wesnoth 20180618 06:20:21-!- gallaecio [~quassel@188.79.96.255] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20180618 06:59:51-!- behalebabo [~behalebab@unaffiliated/behalebabo] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20180618 07:04:42-!- behalebabo [~behalebab@unaffiliated/behalebabo] has joined #wesnoth 20180618 07:12:20-!- Guest11101 [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has joined #wesnoth 20180618 07:35:12-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20180618 07:55:30-!- Guest11101 [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20180618 07:56:26-!- TheRuralJuror [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has joined #wesnoth 20180618 07:59:59-!- TheRuralJuror is now known as Haudegen 20180618 08:13:26-!- vladimirslavik [vslavik@nat/redhat/x-tljgieiafnxbuacn] has joined #wesnoth 20180618 08:16:27-!- ibispi [~quassel@188.246.34.98] has joined #wesnoth 20180618 09:35:05-!- ibispi [~quassel@188.246.34.98] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180618 10:32:28-!- Rhonda [~rhonda@wesnoth/developer/rhonda] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180618 10:36:08-!- Rhonda [~rhonda@anguilla.debian.or.at] has joined #wesnoth 20180618 10:56:59-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180618 11:00:27-!- vladimirslavik [vslavik@nat/redhat/x-tljgieiafnxbuacn] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20180618 12:03:59-!- Haudegen [~quassel@212-186-77-29.static.upcbusiness.at] has joined #wesnoth 20180618 12:20:16-!- DeFender [~DeFender1@89-138-149-20.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #wesnoth 20180618 12:22:31-!- DeFender1031 [~DeFender1@89-138-13-24.bb.netvision.net.il] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20180618 13:39:57-!- ibispi [~quassel@188.246.34.98] has joined #wesnoth 20180618 15:08:03-!- Appleman1234_ [~quassel@124x38x163x22.ap124.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has joined #wesnoth 20180618 15:11:45-!- Appleman1234 [~quassel@124x38x163x22.ap124.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20180618 16:09:24-!- Haudegen [~quassel@212-186-77-29.static.upcbusiness.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180618 16:19:51-!- `ani` [~molgrum@databur.st] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20180618 16:24:08-!- `ani` [~molgrum@databur.st] has joined #wesnoth 20180618 16:27:44-!- Haudegen [~quassel@212-186-77-29.static.upcbusiness.at] has joined #wesnoth 20180618 16:45:05-!- Appleman1234_ [~quassel@124x38x163x22.ap124.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20180618 17:23:14-!- Haudegen [~quassel@212-186-77-29.static.upcbusiness.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180618 17:25:40-!- HeyCitizen [HeyCitizen@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/heycitizen] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20180618 17:30:40-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180618 17:30:47-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20180618 18:03:12-!- ToBeFree [uid51591@wikimedia/ToBeFree] has joined #wesnoth 20180618 18:11:52-!- claymore [~claymore@unaffiliated/claymore] has joined #wesnoth 20180618 18:37:01-!- DeFender [~DeFender1@89-138-149-20.bb.netvision.net.il] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180618 18:37:19-!- DeFender [~DeFender1@89-138-149-20.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #wesnoth 20180618 19:03:49<+discordbot2> is the steam server separate from the normal one? I didn't see many games when I tried rn for the non steam release 20180618 19:05:22<+discordbot2> same server, make sure you used the same wesnoth version. 20180618 19:06:43<+discordbot2> I just dled the one that was apparently latest and not dev release 20180618 19:06:57<+discordbot2> I think 1.14? 20180618 19:07:16<+discordbot2> and .3 yeh 20180618 19:09:33<+discordbot2> There are 30 something games in the lobby at the moment. 20180618 19:09:59<+discordbot2> Someone just complained about only seeing 4 games and I pointed that out and it turned out they had filters enabled. 20180618 19:10:35<+discordbot2> (There are actually 42 now.) 20180618 19:15:39<+discordbot2> huh ill check if i have filters 20180618 19:16:34<+discordbot2> shows now 20180618 19:40:29-!- gallaecio [~quassel@188.79.96.255] has joined #wesnoth 20180618 19:49:14-!- oldlaptop [~quassel@45.63.78.126] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180618 19:49:33-!- oldlaptop [~quassel@45.63.78.126] has joined #wesnoth 20180618 20:00:12<+discordbot2> Hi there. Could you please recommend some youtubers to learn the game from? I've tried to search myself, but the ones I found have trouble telling the difference between lawful & chaotic units. 20180618 20:00:35<+discordbot2> play the tutorial and read the game manual 20180618 20:00:49<+discordbot2> Already done 😃 20180618 20:01:22<+discordbot2> I mean a bit of intermediate-level content, not "how the units move" 20180618 20:01:27<+discordbot2> Oh I misread your question 20180618 20:02:06<+discordbot2> I don't know of any youtubers, but I think the best way to do it is to just play the campaign 20180618 20:02:06<+discordbot2> not that how uints move is not an important question... I do not know how 20180618 20:02:11<+discordbot2> pls tell 20180618 20:06:50< zookeeper> @mrabinovich i don't know if there's much/any intermediate/advanced-level videos of that sort around, but you might want to browse the strategy & tips subforum for specific faction strategies and so on, to get an idea of what sort of things you might want to pay attention to. 20180618 20:06:56<+discordbot2> there are also multiplayer replays publicly available 20180618 20:07:56<+discordbot2> Yeah, watching replays may be the right thing to do... Thanks everyone 20180618 20:09:09<+discordbot2> Inky has some indepth playthroughs of campaigns on the forums 20180618 20:09:21<+discordbot2> with fairly detailed explanations of strategies she use 20180618 20:09:23<+discordbot2> s 20180618 20:09:40< zookeeper> multiplayer is the best way to learn. in campaigns your AI opponent is never on equal footing with you, so you can get away with things you can't with human opponents. 20180618 20:09:59<+discordbot2> this is true, but against the AI, you learn basics of how to play 20180618 20:10:22<+discordbot2> like, swapping units between positions in your line, how to place your healers, when to retreat and when to attack, etc. 20180618 20:10:32<+discordbot2> erm, I should say you can learn 20180618 20:10:48< zookeeper> yeah, you can always choose to saveload a lot, instead... :p 20180618 20:11:03<+discordbot2> The battle stats don't take into account time of day do they? 20180618 20:11:28<+discordbot2> they do 20180618 20:12:13<+discordbot2> well, that's if you want to savescum :p 20180618 20:13:17< zookeeper> well, i guess "multiplayer is the best way to learn" is a bit simplistic. i guess there you learn a bit different things. in campaigns (if you play on harder difficulties and don't saveload) you still have to learn those sorts of things, like positioning and risk assessment and so on. 20180618 20:13:38<+discordbot2> https://www.youtube.com/user/NekisBrutalWesnoth @mrabinovich 20180618 20:14:16<+discordbot2> Thanks a lot, will watch these 20180618 20:14:44<+discordbot2> campaign strategy is different than MP strategy, yes 20180618 20:15:37<+discordbot2> strategy basics like unit positioning and what to recruit are similar 20180618 20:15:49<+discordbot2> of course in campaigns you have recalls 20180618 20:15:53<+discordbot2> Yeah, I suppose in the MP one does not need to level up units for the next scenarios. 20180618 20:16:11<+discordbot2> so as a quick example 20180618 20:16:16<+discordbot2> ghosts are among the weakest level 1 units 20180618 20:16:25<+discordbot2> but are often extremely useful at lvl 2or 3 20180618 20:17:00<+discordbot2> so they aren't so good in MP, but are very beneficial to your success in campaigns 20180618 20:17:09<+discordbot2> Shadows are garbage. 20180618 20:17:30<+discordbot2> Don't ever choose Shadows when leveling them tup. 20180618 20:18:19<+discordbot2> Is using them in pairs for backstub not viable? 20180618 20:23:19-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180618 20:23:25-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20180618 20:24:05<+discordbot2> well sometimes 20180618 20:24:33<+discordbot2> you can leader snipe with them but problem is they die really fast 20180618 20:27:47<+discordbot2> wraiths are usually more useful imo 20180618 20:35:39-!- claymore [~claymore@unaffiliated/claymore] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20180618 21:28:18-!- HeyCitizen [~HeyCitize@sttrpq3809w-lp130-03-67-68-202-204.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #wesnoth 20180618 21:31:00-!- HeyCitizen [~HeyCitize@sttrpq3809w-lp130-03-67-68-202-204.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Client Quit] 20180618 21:32:09-!- HeyCitizen [~HeyCitize@sttrpq3809w-lp130-03-67-68-202-204.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #wesnoth 20180618 21:34:04-!- HeyCitizen [~HeyCitize@sttrpq3809w-lp130-03-67-68-202-204.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Client Quit] 20180618 21:34:53-!- ibispi [~quassel@188.246.34.98] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180618 21:35:12-!- HeyCitizen [~HeyCitize@sttrpq3809w-lp130-03-67-68-202-204.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #wesnoth 20180618 21:37:43-!- HeyCitizen_ [~HeyCitize@sttrpq3809w-lp130-03-67-68-202-204.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #wesnoth 20180618 21:38:45-!- HeyCitizen_ [~HeyCitize@sttrpq3809w-lp130-03-67-68-202-204.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Client Quit] 20180618 21:40:14-!- HeyCitizen [~HeyCitize@sttrpq3809w-lp130-03-67-68-202-204.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20180618 21:41:22-!- HeyCitizen [~HeyCitize@sttrpq3809w-lp130-03-67-68-202-204.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #wesnoth 20180618 21:45:22-!- HeyCitizen [~HeyCitize@sttrpq3809w-lp130-03-67-68-202-204.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Client Quit] 20180618 21:48:28-!- HeyCitizen [HeyCitizen@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/heycitizen] has joined #wesnoth 20180618 22:19:55-!- gallaecio [~quassel@188.79.96.255] has quit [Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Converse confortabelmente. En calquera parte.] 20180618 22:23:52-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20180618 22:26:26-!- Guest12162 [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has joined #wesnoth 20180618 22:47:10-!- Guest12162 [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180618 22:48:14-!- TheRuralJuror [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has joined #wesnoth 20180618 22:50:37-!- TheRuralJuror is now known as Haudegen 20180618 23:15:27-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180618 23:29:10-!- sigurdfd [sigurdfd@dynamic-acs-72-23-110-196.zoominternet.net] has joined #wesnoth 20180618 23:34:42<+discordbot2> it's useful to have two of them in DiD 20180618 23:59:12-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has joined #wesnoth --- Log closed Tue Jun 19 00:00:02 2018