--- Log opened Sun Jul 15 00:00:35 2018 20180715 00:29:57-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180715 01:10:27-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180715 01:10:33-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180715 01:12:22<+discordbot1> Why on earth does ctrl+a in the command input box in-game move the cursor to the start instead of selecting everything? 20180715 01:12:36< celmin> Blame emacs or vim or something. 20180715 01:12:43< celmin> Though, I thought we already changed that in 1.14? 20180715 01:12:50< celmin> Oh wait, we probably only changed it in GUI2 stuff. 20180715 01:13:10< celmin> The way to select everything is end,shift+home 20180715 01:13:20< celmin> (Or the reverse obviously.) 20180715 01:16:21< mattsc> Funny. I just did something (not Wesnoth related) and thought WOE does ctrl-a select everything and not get me to the beginning of the line. 20180715 01:16:50<+discordbot1> Yeah I think I've seen Ctrl+A select all in GUI2 textboxes. 20180715 01:17:03<+discordbot1> Yep it does. 20180715 01:17:29<+discordbot1> Do you think it's worth making it do the same for GUI1 textboxes in 1.14? 20180715 01:17:37< celmin> If it's not too difficult, then yes. 20180715 01:17:53< celmin> And remove handling of Ctrl+E if you do that. 20180715 01:21:16<+discordbot1> Coming from a world where we use the Spanish localization of Windows and other software, I've always found this stuff somewhat confusing. 20180715 01:21:31<+discordbot1> Qt and Gtk applications generally don't seem to localize keyboard shortcut, but Windows applications tend to do. 20180715 01:21:50<+discordbot1> As a result, Select All on Spanish Windows is Ctrl+E, and Open is Ctrl+A. 20180715 01:22:17<+discordbot1> Whereas on the English localization, and in Qt and Gtk applications they are Ctrl+A and Ctrl+O, respectively. 20180715 01:22:39<+discordbot1> (As far as I remember, anyway. I've not actually used non-English locales on Linux for about 10 years.) 20180715 01:23:39<+discordbot1> (And to make things more confusing, Cut, Copy, and Paste remain Ctrl+X, Ctrl+C, and Ctrl+V even in the Spanish localization of Windows software.) 20180715 01:24:37<+discordbot1> (Not that X and V are found in either "cut" or "paste" in the first place anyway, but this suggests to me there's some historical background behind some shortcuts being localizable and others not.) 20180715 01:39:05<+discordbot1> celmin: yes, it was GUI2 only 20180715 01:45:57-!- louis94 [~~louis94@91.178.69.90] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20180715 01:55:56< irker831> wesnoth/wesnoth:1.14 josteph a1ab372b62 THoT S6: Highlight the hut mentioned in AppVeyor: All builds passed 20180715 02:20:19-!- gfgtdf_ [~chatzilla@x4e330837.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180715 02:22:13-!- gfgtdf [~chatzilla@x4dba8862.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20180715 02:22:14-!- gfgtdf_ is now known as gfgtdf 20180715 02:23:41< irker831> wesnoth: Martin Hrubý (hrubymar10) wesnoth:1.14 c18537edc067 / / (1284 files in 111 dirs): Migrate links to https if available https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/c18537edc0678f40a209797d72dfaba3e5e88545 20180715 02:26:29-!- Appleman1234 [~quassel@1.120.98.249] has quit [Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 20180715 02:30:38-!- Appleman1234 [~quassel@1.120.98.249] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180715 02:49:57-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180715 02:50:03-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180715 02:52:26-!- gfgtdf [~chatzilla@x4e330837.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 52.9.0/20180621064021]] 20180715 04:13:12< irker831> wesnoth/wesnoth:master Nils Kneuper e4da51adc3 updated Czech translation AppVeyor: vs2015/Release Failed 20180715 04:13:13< irker831> Details: https://ci.appveyor.com/project/wesnoth/wesnoth-7lnpw/build/Wesnoth-VS2015-master-4230 20180715 04:43:41< irker831> wesnoth/wesnoth:1.14 Martin Hrubý (hrubymar10) 16685bc719 Sync with wesnoth/wesnoth:1.14 AppVeyor: All builds passed 20180715 05:25:12<+discordbot1> TIL you can have variadic alias templates 20180715 05:26:01< celmin> Why wouldn't you be able to? 20180715 05:26:12<+discordbot1> I dunno. 20180715 05:26:21<+discordbot1> I had just always used single-type alias templates 20180715 05:35:09<+discordbot1> You're a variadic thingamabob. 20180715 05:35:44<+discordbot1> Does anyone else remember the old times when I knew more C++ than Vultraz? 20180715 05:36:48<+discordbot1> TBH, knowledge about how to use a debugger is more useful than knowing all the corner cases of the language. 20180715 05:42:24<+discordbot1> Uhhh yeah. I definitely know how to use gdb. 20180715 05:42:44< celmin> The debugger is insanely useful. 20180715 05:42:47<+discordbot1> I definitely don't need to look up the commands to break on exception throw/catch every single time, yeah. <_< 20180715 05:42:59< celmin> Also really useful is the fact that you can attach to an already-running process. 20180715 05:43:33< celmin> Heh, I definitely have to look up those commands when using gdb/lldb. 20180715 05:43:51< celmin> I don't really like gdb/lldb TBH. The best debugger I've used is Microsoft's. 20180715 05:44:13< celmin> Still, Xcode's gdb/lldb integration is pretty good too. 20180715 05:44:21< celmin> Not as good as MSVC, but still pretty good. 20180715 05:44:41< celmin> …mind you that's also old Xcode, I have no idea if it has improved more recently. Maybe they're equal now. 20180715 05:45:45<+discordbot1> In Xcode debugger, I dislike its "Apple-like" UI. 20180715 05:45:57<+discordbot1> Such as that I have to drag a breakpoint to remove it. 20180715 05:46:38< celmin> Huhwhat? 20180715 05:46:48< celmin> I don't remember anything like that. 20180715 05:47:06<+discordbot1> Clicking a breakpoint does nothing in Xcode IIRC. 20180715 05:47:16< celmin> Though I do remember breakpoints typically end up getting disabled rather than removed. Just clicking it merely disabled it, it didn't remove it. 20180715 05:47:34< celmin> I think I usually used the context menu to disable them, but I can't quite remember, 20180715 05:47:44< celmin> I wonder how good VSCode's gdb/lldb integration is. 20180715 05:48:49< celmin> TBH I think clicking to disable is better than clicking to remove though, I kept getting caught off guard by the latter behaviour in MSVC. 20180715 05:48:53<+discordbot1> I do know how to use a debugger, ftr. Not very well, but I can use it. 20180715 05:49:21< celmin> Plus it's potentially lossy if the breakpoint has advanced settings. A nice thing I noticed about VSCode is that it actually warns you in that case and offers to disable it instead. 20180715 05:49:43<+discordbot1> @Vultraz Right. But Im also saying that better debugger knowledge would be more useful than better C++ knowledge. 20180715 05:50:00< celmin> One downside I remember about debugging in MSVC vs Xcode is that, in MSVC, you can't evaluate arbitrarily complicated expressions. 20180715 05:50:21< celmin> And while there are definitely limits to the expressions you can evaluate in lldb, there are a lot more possibilities than there are in MSVC. 20180715 05:50:34<+discordbot1> You can use Quick Watch to evaluate some expressions. 20180715 05:50:41< celmin> It seems that MSVC only allows evaluating expressions that don't require a function call. 20180715 05:50:49<+discordbot1> But its indeed quite limited, espoecially when containers are involved. 20180715 05:51:03< celmin> I can't remember if you can evaluate expressions accessing private members. You can in lldb. 20180715 05:51:19< celmin> Evaluating a function call also works in lldb at least sometimes. 20180715 05:52:00< celmin> I've actually use that to forcibly update the screen while debugging, by calling the equivalent of SDL_Flip() IIRC 20180715 05:52:05< celmin> ^used 20180715 05:53:13<+discordbot1> is travis reporting commits, because the github webhook here isn't 20180715 05:53:18<+discordbot1> er 20180715 05:53:19<+discordbot1> irker 20180715 05:54:07<+discordbot1> No, it hasnt reported any new commit. 20180715 05:54:08<+discordbot1> http://wesnoth.org/irclogs/2018/07/%23wesnoth-dev.2018-07-15.log 20180715 05:54:26<+discordbot1> alright, thanks 20180715 06:02:34-!- Appleman1234 [~quassel@1.120.98.249] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20180715 06:13:12<+discordbot1> How do I link to a line number on github in changelog.md? 20180715 06:13:40<+discordbot1> Click the line in GitHub and it will be highlighted. 20180715 06:13:51<+discordbot1> Then copy the full URL from the address bar. 20180715 06:14:52<+discordbot1> That doesn't work here though, apparently since it's displaying it as markdown formatted. 20180715 06:15:31<+discordbot1> can't do it in README.md either, for example 20180715 06:16:55<+discordbot1> If linking to a heading is okay, then you can hover any heading. A link icon appears on the left of it; right-click it and copy its address. 20180715 06:17:49<+discordbot1> close enough 20180715 06:19:50<+discordbot1> doofus-01 is reporting some issue with enabling the security options btw: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/3290961db2eb00221c94f88f02f77ab640f497a4#commitcomment-29710903 20180715 06:20:49<+discordbot1> @doofus-01 Can you tell us how exactly the dependencies changed? 20180715 06:27:24<+discordbot1> My guess would be that it's the compiler version, similar to the FreeBSD issue with GCC 4.9, since we check for 4.8+ but travis uses 5.4. 20180715 06:27:49<+discordbot1> I don't think there's any clang version checking at all, either. 20180715 07:24:39< irker831> wesnoth/wesnoth:master Łukasz Hryniuk 0c5d7f434f Add about.cfg entry AppVeyor: All builds passed 20180715 07:25:55-!- Appleman1234 [~quassel@1.120.98.249] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180715 07:39:29-!- lipkab [~lipk@host-91-147-210-58.biatv.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180715 07:56:19-!- lipkab [~lipk@host-91-147-210-58.biatv.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20180715 08:18:55-!- lipkab [~lipk@host-91-147-210-58.biatv.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180715 09:13:14< irker831> wesnoth/wesnoth:master Nils Kneuper e4da51adc3 updated Czech translation AppVeyor: 1/4 builds failed 20180715 09:13:15< irker831> Details vs2015/Release: https://ci.appveyor.com/project/wesnoth/wesnoth-7lnpw/build/Wesnoth-VS2015-master-4230 20180715 09:29:34-!- louis94 [~~louis94@91.178.69.90] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180715 09:36:01-!- louis94 [~~louis94@91.178.69.90] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20180715 09:46:21-!- lipkab [~lipk@host-91-147-210-58.biatv.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20180715 09:54:30-!- lipkab [~lipk@host-91-147-210-58.biatv.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180715 10:44:35-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180715 11:05:01-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180715 11:13:08-!- gfgtdf [~chatzilla@x4e330837.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180715 11:16:50-!- louis94 [~~louis94@91.178.69.90] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180715 11:26:25-!- louis94 [~~louis94@91.178.69.90] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20180715 11:37:25< irker831> wesnoth/wesnoth:master DisherProject 840ee9dbda Liberty S8: Fix some event filters AppVeyor: All builds passed 20180715 11:59:14-!- lipkab [~lipk@host-91-147-210-58.biatv.hu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180715 11:59:39-!- lipkab [~lipk@host-91-147-210-58.biatv.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180715 12:37:51< irker831> wesnoth/wesnoth:master DisherProject a1ab0f4056 Liberty S8: Fix some event filters AppVeyor: All builds passed 20180715 12:52:10-!- wedge009 [~Thunderbi@60-241-236-92.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20180715 12:52:51-!- wedge009 [~Thunderbi@60-241-236-92.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180715 12:57:20-!- Appleman1234 [~quassel@1.120.98.249] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20180715 13:13:50-!- celmin [~celticmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Quit: And lo! The minstrel departs, to spread the music to the masses!] 20180715 13:34:35< celticminstrel> @Vultraz - Please don't do this. https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/issues/3343 20180715 13:34:50< celticminstrel> 1) Commit hashes aren't turned into a link in the topic. 20180715 13:35:10< celticminstrel> 2) That's a useless message, would be better IMO to make something a little more descriptive. 20180715 13:40:23< irker831> wesnoth/wesnoth:1.14 doofus-01 ac3b78f0fa revised and additional snowed hut villag AppVeyor: All builds passed 20180715 13:43:08< irker831> wesnoth: josteph wesnoth:master af71bfe9c749 / src/units/unit.cpp: WML: Support the the 'jamming' key in [unit]. https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/af71bfe9c749c37326682cb31ae84bcebe54efd0 20180715 13:43:25< celticminstrel> Irker isn't working, huh. 20180715 13:43:34< celticminstrel> ... 20180715 13:43:41< celticminstrel> Never mind, I must be blind. 20180715 13:44:03< celticminstrel> I saw the first one was a build message 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celticminstrel> Suddenly lots of commits. 20180715 14:44:48-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180715 14:45:30-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180715 14:46:42-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180715 14:46:59<+discordbot1> celmin, what about #2896 ? 20180715 14:47:18-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180715 14:47:35< celticminstrel> Hm? 20180715 14:49:35<+discordbot1> Open since april, can it go in? can it go in 1.14 too, maybe 1.14.5? 20180715 14:49:49< celticminstrel> I don't remember what this is. 20180715 14:52:24<+discordbot1> Unfurtunately me neither... but "Fix AI ignoring teleport locations when moving leader to leader goals" sounds good 20180715 14:55:14< celticminstrel> @sevu I think e4589e2 can probably be cherry-picked to 1.14, the other commit in that PR shouldn't be though. 20180715 14:55:32< celticminstrel> The commits don't actually look like they depend on each other in any way. 20180715 14:55:51< celticminstrel> I'm not even wure why they're in a PR together TBH. 20180715 14:56:08< celticminstrel> I guess they're both related to teleportation, but that seems to be about all they have in common. 20180715 14:56:20< irker831> wesnoth: Celtic Minstrel wesnoth:master 99233339dd2b / src/scripting/game_lua_kernel.cpp: wesnoth.find_path: Allow specifying custom flags (in particular teleport) when u https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/99233339dd2b3897929ed21803e9fe9792ed73c0 20180715 14:56:22< irker831> wesnoth: Celtic Minstrel wesnoth:master 45674a3d797d / src/ai/default/ca.cpp: Fix AI ignoring teleport locations when moving leader to leader goals https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/45674a3d797df79813d2932094fbb7c2ca07ed2f 20180715 15:45:02< irker831> wesnoth/wesnoth:1.14 Martin Hrubý (hrubymar10) c18537edc0 Migrate links to https if 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