--- Log opened Tue Jul 10 00:00:33 2018 20180710 00:00:39< Ravana_> yes 20180710 00:05:33< discordbot1> How? The AI is always doing sth, there is no moment when ctrl+v or ctrl +b works, and klicking a unit does not show it either because sth. else happens in that moment, such as a unit moving 20180710 00:05:45< Ravana_> select unit and hover around 20180710 00:06:17< Ravana_> you can also pause network game to stop ai doing something 20180710 00:09:48< discordbot1> I don't get the first thing to work 20180710 00:35:11< discordbot1> Some code for it: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/blob/1.14/data/campaigns/The_South_Guard/scenarios/04_Vale_of_Tears.cfg#L158-L204 20180710 01:35:01-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180710 01:35:07-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20180710 02:03:39< irker937> project-ethea: Iris Morelle Naia:master bf000a317f8f / changelog lua/patch.lua: lua/patch: Make several WML actions instant or no-ops when skipping messages https://github.com/project-ethea/Naia/commit/bf000a317f8f498394e9b590dd0668dc1109f5fc 20180710 02:19:24-!- Soliton [~Soliton@wesnoth/developer/soliton] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20180710 02:19:26-!- Soliton_ [~Soliton@baldras.wesnoth.org] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20180710 02:20:34-!- Soliton_ [~Soliton@baldras.wesnoth.org] has quit [Changing host] 20180710 02:20:34-!- Soliton_ [~Soliton@wesnoth/developer/soliton] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20180710 02:20:44-!- Soliton_ is now known as Soliton 20180710 02:53:12-!- mode/#wesnoth-umc-dev [+v discordbot1] by ChanServ 20180710 03:12:33-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180710 03:12:38-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20180710 05:03:58-!- irker937 [~irker@uruz.ai0867.net] has quit [Quit: transmission timeout] 20180710 06:27:15-!- hk238 [~kvirc@unaffiliated/hk238] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20180710 06:27:17< hk238> hi 20180710 06:27:47< hk238> how do I use lua to modify a unit so that it has poison? 20180710 07:27:02< hk238> how can I make wesnoth require the same version of a scenario? Apparendtly require_scenario doesn't work 20180710 07:33:43<+discordbot1> addon_min_version, I believe 20180710 07:34:09< hk238> meanwhile for Choicerer: https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurydike_(nymfi) 20180710 07:34:25<+discordbot1> though it doesn't seem to be documented by itself, but rather only mentioned in the description of require_scenario 20180710 07:34:54< hk238> Pentarctagon, do you think the nickname "Eurydike" is trying to signal that the person with the nickname is lesbian? 20180710 07:35:11< hk238> because Choicerer accused me of such and was very offensive 20180710 07:35:41<+discordbot1> eurydike's the one from the myth where the guy tries to bring her back from the dead, right? 20180710 07:35:46< hk238> also even in english wikipedia you have that form on the first line 20180710 07:35:49< hk238> true Yumi 20180710 07:36:00< hk238> In Greek mythology, Eurydice (/jʊəˈrɪdɪsi/; Greek: Εὐρυδίκη, Eurydikē).... 20180710 07:36:05<+discordbot1> that has nothing to do with being lesbian, I'm pretty sure 20180710 07:36:11<+discordbot1> there's also an asteroid with the name 20180710 07:36:14<+discordbot1> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/75_Eurydike 20180710 07:36:18< hk238> yes 20180710 07:36:20<+discordbot1> 😮 20180710 07:36:34< hk238> Choicerer claimed that it was very offensive to use such a nickname and that everyone was going to assume it means lesbian 20180710 07:36:49<+discordbot1> feel free to report people who are causing problems. 20180710 07:36:54< hk238> I'm sorry but in my experience Choicerer is the first person to make such claims and to insist that it's offensive 20180710 07:37:00<+discordbot1> this is not the correct channel for reports 20180710 07:37:04<+discordbot1> he's not a mod, so if he thinks it's a problem, he should be the one reporting it 20180710 07:37:28<+discordbot1> not going and talking to anyone about it like that himself 20180710 07:37:39< hk238> meanwhile most people know it refers to the mythology and some are aware that greek didn't have a c for it, and that you pronounce it not like with C although it's an established in englihs spelling 20180710 07:38:00< hk238> yeah I think he was being way out of line with that.. and also wrong. Not everyone thinks it means "a lesbian" 20180710 07:38:15<+discordbot1> anyway, as Yumi said, this isn't the correct channel to discuss this. 20180710 07:38:30< hk238> yes I was just kind of thinking Choicerer is probably seeing this chat via Discord 20180710 07:38:33<+discordbot1> I don't even see the context, you'll have to DM me it. 20180710 07:38:46< hk238> yeah it's okay 20180710 07:39:01< hk238> it was a in lobby of an open game or something 20180710 07:39:13<+discordbot1> THIS IS THE MODDING CHAT 20180710 07:39:23< hk238> and I'm not so upset as to wish for any sanctions.. sorry 20180710 07:39:26<+discordbot1> For Wesnoth content mods. >:| 20180710 07:39:32<+discordbot1> Not for moderation. 20180710 07:39:35<+discordbot1> 🤔 20180710 07:39:40< hk238> I wasn't asking for moderation either 20180710 07:39:45<+discordbot1> Also, in the IRC side it's called #wesnoth-umc-dev. 20180710 07:39:48<+discordbot1> Then why are you bringing this up here? 20180710 07:39:55<+discordbot1> Making even more clear that it's not about moderation. 20180710 07:39:58< hk238> I could've brought it up in #wesnoth I guess 20180710 07:40:02<+discordbot1> If you are saying it was in an MP game. 20180710 07:40:04<+discordbot1> No not really. 20180710 07:40:07<+discordbot1> PM him or something. 20180710 07:40:24<+discordbot1> You can have your own little argument via forum PMs unless you need a mod to get involved, then PM the MP Mods group in the forums instead. 20180710 07:40:41< hk238> yeah I don't want to argue about it anymore anyway 20180710 07:42:42< hk238> it was just an event I wanted to discuss, it's not the topic of this channel, it's more like a general thing that just happened 20180710 07:42:48< hk238> but I'm done with that for now anyway.. 20180710 07:44:49<+discordbot1> I don't get the impression that this is something particularly out of the ordinary for him to do. But yeah, if it happens and it's causing a problem, report him or send a mod or admin a PM on the forums (or whatever the IRC equivalent of a DM on Discord is). 20180710 07:45:49<+discordbot1> There isn't really a channel to discuss this sort of thing since we prefer to not broadcast things like this for everyone to read. 20180710 07:47:02< hk238> right sorry I wasn't that upset.. BUt it's also that I was slightly wondering if it really was the case that most people would interpret it that way.. So well but never happened before at least so that someone brought it up 20180710 07:49:19<+discordbot1> it's reasonable to be concerned, just don't use these channels for this type of thing in the future 20180710 07:58:34-!- hk238 [~kvirc@unaffiliated/hk238] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 5.0.0 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/] 20180710 11:25:54<+discordbot1> Sigh... 20180710 11:26:04<+discordbot1> No comment on this, really. 20180710 11:38:29<+discordbot1> Unless somebody is interested in what really happened, then they can PM me. 20180710 11:39:10<+discordbot1> But it's a waste of your and my time. 20180710 13:49:14-!- hk238 [~kvirc@unaffiliated/hk238] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20180710 13:53:24< hk238> hmm how do I type the addon_min_version? As quoted string? 20180710 13:54:13< hk238> or without quotes? like 0.2.0 or "0.2.0" 20180710 13:55:28< Ravana_> it defaults to current version, so unless you are sure you need it, don't add it 20180710 13:55:49< Ravana_> from my testing, I didn't manage to use that key 20180710 13:56:28< hk238> it occurred a couple of times that when using just "scenario_required" people with older versions would join the game and then get Out of Sync errors 20180710 13:56:39< hk238> and sometimes there's also out of sync errors when I make mistakes 20180710 13:56:57< Ravana_> older version can't join 20180710 13:57:02< hk238> but they did 20180710 13:57:06< Ravana_> unless they manually change _info.cfg 20180710 13:57:18<+discordbot1> yeah, i can confirm that 20180710 13:57:22< hk238> BeyondLegendary said they joine dwith version 0.1.5 when I had hosted a game that had 0.1.8 version 20180710 13:57:23<+discordbot1> older version can't join 20180710 13:57:38< hk238> then he went to download a new version and said "oh i had 3 versions old version" 20180710 13:57:40<+discordbot1> it will force you to update, and then you'll have to rejoin 20180710 13:57:56< hk238> well all I can say is my experience is that it didn't work like that 20180710 13:58:07< hk238> whatever actually was going on I don't know just going by what the other person said 20180710 13:58:36<+discordbot1> it did force me, so they might have mixed it up 20180710 13:58:45<+discordbot1> and it should anyone 20180710 13:58:45< hk238> however it's not that he couldn't join first time, he just got OoS as soon as we started, 20180710 13:58:51< hk238> also he said that there was update prompt 20180710 13:59:13< hk238> but then when he went to download it wasn't the same version he had 20180710 13:59:50< hk238> ok I don't know maybe he said that for some weird reason, maybe they have two clients installed and joine dwith the wrong one. I don't know.. 20180710 14:00:08< hk238> ...but if it' like you say then I don't want to use this addon_min_version property at all coz it would be much better for now if juts newest version was allowed 20180710 14:00:39< hk238> is there a possibiltiy that a version number like that two periods doesn't work properly? 20180710 14:00:51< hk238> or that the version number needs a be a string in info.cfg or something like that? 20180710 14:01:56< hk238> well they're quoted strings in the files at least I dont know 20180710 14:03:17< Ravana_> they are received as [addon] id="Ageless_Era" name="Ageless Era" version="4.19.0" [/addon] 20180710 14:04:08<+discordbot1> yeah, just copy that from another file, if you're unsure if you got it right 20180710 14:04:19<+discordbot1> but you must have, surely, because it's working fine 20180710 14:04:48< hk238> weird.. I recall someone explicitly saying there was no update prompt this time 20180710 14:04:50<+discordbot1> well, on my end. it would be hard to imagine it wouldn't on somebody else's 20180710 14:04:58< hk238> and then downloading a newer version fro mthe addon server 20180710 14:05:23< hk238> but okay it was someone else, it didn't happen to me, they may have said something wildly erroneous 20180710 14:05:46< hk238> I just have a problem picture what the alternative path of events could've been 20180710 14:06:50< hk238> I dont know I guess I'll skip the version tag then 20180710 14:34:10< hk238> I think it's not working properly, the require_scenario thing 20180710 14:36:17< hk238> I asked BeyondLegendary to confirm if he indeed had 0.1.5 when add-on server had 0.1.9 20180710 14:36:20< hk238> I mean 0.1.8 20180710 14:36:27< hk238> and that's what he says 20180710 14:37:03< hk238> it's supposed to be "require_scenario=yes" in the multiplayer tag? 20180710 14:46:21< hk238> Ravana_: it's confirmed now Elder just joined the game with 0.1.3 although the add-on server has 0.1.9 20180710 14:46:25< hk238> it's not working correctly 20180710 14:46:28< hk238> the require_scenario tag 20180710 14:54:52< Ravana_> addon server version doesn't matter, host version is important 20180710 14:58:45< Ravana_> 20180710 17:56:48 error scripting/lua: In function lua_kernel::run(): Lua Error: 20180710 14:58:53< Ravana_> game view is totally broken 20180710 14:59:25< Ravana_> switching to full screen and back fixed it 20180710 15:19:09< hk238> I think there's a bug in the code where it mistakes the periods for decimal points 20180710 15:19:29< hk238> that would be consistent with 0.1.5 being equivalent to 0.1.9 as 5 is where you round up 20180710 15:19:33< hk238> but that's just a guess 20180710 15:22:16<+discordbot1> could check if it's working for something like version "1" vs "2". if even that doesn't work, then it seems like it's completely not working instead of maybe just partially. 20180710 17:26:13-!- hk238 [~kvirc@unaffiliated/hk238] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 5.0.0 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/] 20180710 17:30:46<+discordbot1> Is there a way to combine recall lists? If I have a split in the campaign somewhere and want to combine recall lists 20180710 17:30:57<+discordbot1> Of two separate scenarios 20180710 17:32:14<+discordbot1> Zoo, that side wouldn't exist in one of the scenarios 20180710 17:32:54<+discordbot1> So one scenario there isn't a list because it's the first time you play the character 20180710 17:33:11<+discordbot1> Then they rejoin and meet up forces, or recall lists 20180710 17:34:52<+discordbot1> In a later scenario 20180710 17:35:39-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20180710 17:38:01< zookeeper> well, i guess you need to store the units at the end of a scenario, then unstore them to side x's recall list for example at the end of the scenario preceding the one where you want them to appear in side x's recall list. 20180710 17:38:09< zookeeper> or at least, that's what i'd do. maybe there's a fancier way. 20180710 17:38:37<+discordbot1> I would just have them both be sides in the later scenario 20180710 17:38:40<+discordbot1> and then merge the sides 20180710 17:38:59<+discordbot1> so side 1 = leader 1, side 2= leader 2, merge side 1 and side 2 20180710 17:39:35<+discordbot1> I don't need anything fancy :p. Is merge side eventwml? 20180710 17:40:40<+discordbot1> If you're asking if there's a WML action to "merge sides", no, there isn't. You need to do it all by hand. 20180710 17:46:31<+discordbot1> just modify_unit side=1 side 2 and voila sides merged 20180710 17:46:47<+discordbot1> also combine their gold I guess 20180710 17:48:25<+discordbot1> https://wiki.wesnoth.org/DirectActionsWML#.5Bmodify_unit.5D 20180710 17:48:37<+discordbot1> "Matches on recall list units too." 20180710 18:58:35<+discordbot1> I'm confused there. Would I have to modify each individual unit, or would I just do two filterS? 20180710 18:58:40<+discordbot1> one for each side 20180710 19:00:36<+discordbot1> [modify_unit] 20180710 19:01:43<+discordbot1> [modify_unit] [filter] side=1 [/filter] [filter_second] side=2 [/filter] [/modify_unit] That would merge the sides? 20180710 19:02:06<+discordbot1> why do you have a filter_second tag? 20180710 19:02:08<+discordbot1> o_o 20180710 19:03:12<+discordbot1> Then how would I distinguish the two different sides? side=1,2? 20180710 19:04:37<+discordbot1> "[filter] with a StandardUnitFilter as argument. All units matching this filter are modified. Matches on recall list units too." 20180710 19:04:46<+discordbot1> then it gives you example usage below 20180710 19:04:53<+discordbot1> [modify_unit] [filter] x,y=38,6 [/filter] hitpoints=10 {TRAIT_HEALTHY} [/modify_unit] 20180710 19:05:12<+discordbot1> so if your filter is side=1 20180710 19:05:16<+discordbot1> then it matches every unit on side 1 20180710 19:05:25<+discordbot1> and applies whatever afterwards 20180710 19:05:29<+discordbot1> ahh I see 20180710 19:05:43<+discordbot1> thanks Yumi 20180710 19:35:59-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180710 19:36:05-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20180710 19:56:22<+discordbot1> get rid of [filter_second] and that last [/filter] 20180710 20:48:36<+discordbot1> yeah i wrote that on my phone 20180710 20:48:38<+discordbot1> lol 20180710 21:42:35-!- Jordys [~Jordys@160.154.136.103] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20180710 22:20:01-!- Jordy [~Jordys@160.154.136.103] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20180710 22:22:05-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20180710 22:22:32-!- Jordys [~Jordys@160.154.136.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20180710 23:39:08-!- Jordy [~Jordys@160.154.136.103] has quit [Quit: Surfing on clouds to the exit gate] --- Log closed Wed Jul 11 00:00:35 2018