--- Log opened Wed Jul 11 00:00:35 2018 20180711 00:01:52-!- mystic_x [~X@unaffiliated/mysticx] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180711 00:42:27-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180711 00:42:33-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20180711 00:56:52< janebot> wesnoth: Tabletop Version (by /u/VigiloEtConfido) https://redd.it/8xv2lr 20180711 00:59:21-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180711 00:59:25-!- Smedles_ [~quassel@58.174.164.95] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20180711 00:59:28-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20180711 01:01:14-!- Smedles [~quassel@101.172.2.212] has joined #wesnoth 20180711 01:05:53<+discordbot1> woah 20180711 01:05:56<+discordbot1> tabletop version?? :oooo 20180711 02:42:32-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180711 02:42:38-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20180711 03:10:58-!- Smedles [~quassel@101.172.2.212] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 20180711 03:12:24-!- Smedles [~quassel@101.172.2.212] has joined #wesnoth 20180711 03:22:08-!- Smedles [~quassel@101.172.2.212] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 20180711 03:23:34-!- Smedles [~quassel@101.172.2.212] has joined #wesnoth 20180711 03:51:59<+discordbot1> I've only realised now hk is Spieler. 20180711 03:53:37<+discordbot1> And no, he's not Finnish, he's Austrian, and he made that story in modding up. 20180711 03:54:06<+discordbot1> Just for the record. In retrospect I've been too nice to him, given how he's been disgustingly hitting on me. 20180711 03:54:19<+discordbot1> What did I say about not bringing up drama in public chats? You can DM a mod if you need to. 20180711 03:54:36<+discordbot1> It's not Drama though, I'm addressing something he made up earlier. 20180711 03:54:48<+discordbot1> Hk has briefly chatted with me in Finnish at one point. At least he knows the Finnish language. 20180711 03:54:58<+discordbot1> You can call it whatever you want, this is still a disruptive action. 20180711 03:55:11<+discordbot1> Disruptive how? 20180711 03:55:23 * celmin hugs Choicerer. 20180711 03:55:27<+discordbot1> Why don't I have the right to respond to something that was made up? 20180711 03:55:40< celmin> (FTR I have literally no idea what you're talking about, so.) 20180711 03:55:42<+discordbot1> Because nobody cares about it being a thing in the first place. 20180711 03:55:48< celmin> (But yeah.) 20180711 03:55:59<+discordbot1> No-one would remember that conversation (most of which is built on context that doesn't even exist in this server) if you didn't bring it up again. 20180711 03:56:20<+discordbot1> I don't think so, because I remember it being mentioned afterwards. 20180711 03:56:24<+discordbot1> Also at this point I need to remind you rule #7 and ask you to drop it. 20180711 03:56:33<+discordbot1> I don't think you have the say on who remembers what. 20180711 03:56:53<+discordbot1> I had forgotten it, for the record. 20180711 03:57:05< celmin> IMO it would make more sense to deny whatever it was if and when someone mentioned it again. 20180711 03:57:12<+discordbot1> Okay... I still like to address something about me that was made up. 20180711 03:57:26<+discordbot1> I will not repeat myself again. 20180711 03:57:42<+discordbot1> Hahaha. 20180711 03:57:58< celmin> …why the hell are you laughing all of a sudden. 20180711 03:57:59< celmin> Creepy. 20180711 03:58:04<+discordbot1> Yeah, but only now I realised he made up a whole messed up game around making stories about me. 20180711 03:58:12<+discordbot1> Now, I just wish people were more polite. 20180711 03:58:14<+discordbot1> Dropped. 20180711 03:58:56<+discordbot1> ... in my day... you would have been banned about 5 minutes ago. 20180711 03:59:01<+discordbot1> Awesome. 20180711 03:59:13<+discordbot1> And who are you exactly Neu? 20180711 03:59:19<+discordbot1> Perhaps Spieler 20180711 03:59:47 * celmin hugs Choicerer. 20180711 03:59:52<+discordbot1> hmmmm. I can't come up with anything quick and snappy. 20180711 04:00:11<+discordbot1> the person who used to throw out locks and bans after one post. 20180711 04:00:24-!- celmin [~celticmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Quit: And lo! The minstrel departs, to spread the music to the masses!] 20180711 04:00:38<+discordbot1> Are you saying you're a past mod? 20180711 04:00:52<+discordbot1> a little more than that. 20180711 04:01:20<+discordbot1> Yeah sorry but I don't feel particularly inclined to buy riddle-like coy stuff like that. 20180711 04:01:44<+discordbot1> Anyone can claim to be whoever they want and not have any proof to show for it. 20180711 04:03:31<+discordbot1> Is Neu Noy? :P 20180711 04:03:32<+discordbot1> xD 20180711 04:03:44<+discordbot1> wow, it wasn't that hard. 20180711 04:03:44<+discordbot1> That would be a twist 20180711 04:03:56<+discordbot1> I guessed Noy because same pronounciation XDD :3 20180711 04:04:18<+discordbot1> Next thing I'll be told is that is actually suokko. 20180711 04:04:33<+discordbot1> I mean I can log into my IRC client too. But this is much easier. 20180711 04:04:58<+discordbot1> though I miss #wesnoth-evilmodzone. 20180711 04:05:09<+discordbot1> the noy connection occurred to me 20180711 04:05:13<+discordbot1> what is this channel now? 20180711 04:05:23<+discordbot1> Yeah I miss that channel that never existed in the first place too. 20180711 04:05:31< celticminstrel> XD 20180711 04:05:45<+discordbot1> Depending on how the IRC client is configured, logging in may only involve one double-click to launch the IRC client... 20180711 04:05:46-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Quit: And lo! The computer falls into a deep sleep, to awake again some other day!] 20180711 04:05:50<+discordbot1> (Like in my case.) 20180711 04:06:19<+discordbot1> alright alright. It wasn't evil mod zone. it was -mod or moderator or something. 20180711 04:07:59<+discordbot1> I mean we all know that the evil mod was soliton. He was just successful at scapgoating me. 20180711 04:08:23<+discordbot1> he's still around 20180711 04:09:18<+discordbot1> I am still expecting a forum PM tbh. 20180711 04:10:07<+discordbot1> from me? 20180711 04:10:13<+discordbot1> Yeah. 20180711 04:10:24<+discordbot1> Like I said it's too easy to claim to be people around here these days. 20180711 04:12:14<+discordbot1> I'd have to open up my other computer... but the last few forum pm were on licensing a few weeks ago. 20180711 04:12:34<+discordbot1> moving from one kind or another. 20180711 04:13:07<+discordbot1> Oh hi. 20180711 04:13:28<+discordbot1> I can tell you what kind of licensing but given they were private I don't want to go into it 20180711 04:13:53<+discordbot1> Yeah unfortunately I'm the last ban-happy mod around these days and that should tell everyone what people were like in the Golden Daysβ„’ before Vultraz reportedly ruined Wesnoth. 20180711 04:14:39<+discordbot1> nothing like replying to FRs with "no" and locking them 20180711 04:14:55<+discordbot1> or closing them 20180711 04:15:25<+discordbot1> bbiab 20180711 04:15:57<+discordbot1> πŸ‘Œ 20180711 04:17:38<+discordbot1> Why are acronyms always so alluring XD 20180711 04:18:02<+discordbot1> KISS, BBIAB, BfW, etc.. xDD :3 I love BBIAB haha be back in a bit :3 xD 20180711 04:19:52<+discordbot1> oh before I go, the worst thing I did was pissing off a russian guy who wanted to make a paid wesnoth gaming league 20180711 04:21:38<+discordbot1> Who wants a PAID gaming league??? 😨 20180711 04:21:41<+discordbot1> Sounds like a good thing XD 20180711 04:22:12<+discordbot1> i'm tempted to go into a multiplayer game but afraid that i suck so hard i'll get demolished 20180711 04:22:38<+discordbot1> aww i felt the same when getting into wesnoth 20180711 04:22:53<+discordbot1> i've just been doing some campaigns, and found some of those difficult 20180711 04:23:15<+discordbot1> if you ever play someone in multiplayer then hopefully they treat you with a lot of respect (i'm still bad xD) because they should understand that a beginner is going to be very sucky :p 20180711 04:23:42<+discordbot1> Yeah some of the campaigns are hard for me too 20180711 04:23:42<+discordbot1> my experience is any strategy game, you will get treated like less then garbage until you're good 20180711 04:23:44<+discordbot1> [refrains from complaining about the crazy mp people] 20180711 04:24:25<+discordbot1> Well if you want to play with me Cirno Moriya then I am free and up for sale right now x) if you have time.. I was studying chess and i have a lot to study in regards to chess, but a wesnoth game sounds fun 20180711 04:24:43<+discordbot1> sale but free XD 20180711 04:25:09<+discordbot1> chess eh? 20180711 04:25:10<+discordbot1> I thought your new pastime was digging up vaguely political pictures to use as your profile picture on Discord /s 20180711 04:25:13<+discordbot1> i used to love chess back in the day 20180711 04:25:22<+discordbot1> i was the best in my club through my last 2 years of high school 20180711 04:25:27<+discordbot1> i didn't do that much hard studying though 20180711 04:25:30<+discordbot1> @shadowm That is not new!! at all!! xPPP 20180711 04:25:43<+discordbot1> Okay, if it's old then I will ask you a last time to not do it here. 20180711 04:25:46<+discordbot1> *even if 20180711 04:25:55<+discordbot1> Of course! 20180711 04:26:31<+discordbot1> Thats cool Cirno :) 20180711 04:26:35<+discordbot1> alright, swearings not against the rules, does that mean i can call you a hardass shadow? 20180711 04:26:36<+discordbot1> one sec I will change my picture 20180711 04:27:22<+discordbot1> It is very old as a matter of fact... and it is not directed towards this server, but i understand that if i want to be here then I cant have such vague political references... It is directed towards other servers that I partake on 20180711 04:27:39<+discordbot1> and ive had it on a chess profile (this current one) since 2016 20180711 04:27:42<+discordbot1> i didn't even notice it was a political reference 20180711 04:29:50<+discordbot1> Suiting! :p 20180711 04:30:05<+discordbot1> yeah it was 20180711 04:30:49<+discordbot1> its been like 4 years since i've picked up a chess board so i'm probably really rusty 20180711 04:30:54<+discordbot1> x)) 20180711 04:30:57<+discordbot1> just don't know anyone to actually play with irl 20180711 04:31:03<+discordbot1> heck i have a glass chess set sitting on my counter 20180711 04:31:13<+discordbot1> just incase i ever meet someone 20180711 04:31:17<+discordbot1> if every new player would've been afraid to go to mp, we wouldn't have a single good player 20180711 04:31:33<+discordbot1> i'm just not sure i'm ready for the salt yet 20180711 04:31:41<+discordbot1> cute! aww that sucks that u dont know anyone to play chess with in real life.. 20180711 04:31:50<+discordbot1> You can check out lichess.org if you like online chess and if u havent checked it out yet 20180711 04:32:00<+discordbot1> as nearly every strategy multiplayer game i've played has been this "go online" "get wrecked" "get told your worthless or a piece of shit right after" 20180711 04:32:01<+discordbot1> in that order 20180711 04:32:15<+discordbot1> Krogen not all people handle defeat the same way. 20180711 04:32:33<+discordbot1> And likewise not all people handle toxic "git gud" players the same way. 20180711 04:32:46<+discordbot1> there are rude people everywhere 20180711 04:32:49<+discordbot1> i'm trying to get better at taking loss but i'm still very salty when i meet "git gud" players 20180711 04:33:13<+discordbot1> you just have to find the good ones 20180711 04:33:30<+discordbot1> they are there 20180711 04:33:36<+discordbot1> Speaking from personal experience, the process is discouraging enough that some people like me just quit. 20180711 04:33:50<+discordbot1> @Cirno Moriya Do you want to play a match? I am in MP (latest steam version which I believe is 1.14) and my handle is Crimson_Conure ❀ 20180711 04:33:53<+discordbot1> i love the campaigns of this game though 20180711 04:34:09<+discordbot1> im also pretty weak :p 20180711 04:34:10<+discordbot1> may give it a shot, i don't have a name there yet 20180711 04:34:14<+discordbot1> as i've never clicked multiplayer 20180711 04:34:16<+discordbot1> Okay okay! :)) 20180711 04:34:41<+discordbot1> also those "git gud" players are usually not the best ones, not even close 20180711 04:34:46<+discordbot1> especially not in wesnoth 20180711 04:35:31<+discordbot1> oh lovely, i need a forum account evidentally 20180711 04:35:48<+discordbot1> Yeah 20180711 04:36:22<+discordbot1> also i've seen a lot of new players recently in 1.14 and i have very positive experiences with them 20180711 04:36:28<+discordbot1> oh, the official language of the community is british english 20180711 04:36:35<+discordbot1> no wonder some of the things said i have to think about for a bit 20180711 04:36:36<+discordbot1> they take advices and help eachother 20180711 04:36:37<+discordbot1> i'm american english 20180711 04:37:18<+discordbot1> The community itself doesn't have an official English variant. The fact that the forums use British English is just an artifact of the forum software developers using it as their target language for mainline. 20180711 04:37:59<+discordbot1> i do find the minor dialect nuances between those 2 english's very fascinating though 20180711 04:38:10<+discordbot1> like how the british call popsicles "ice lollies" 20180711 04:38:18<+discordbot1> had to ask a friend about that one when he casually used the term 20180711 04:38:29<+discordbot1> Our developers on the other hand target US English for mainline Wesnoth's prose and UI strings, and API naming conventions. 20180711 04:38:42<+discordbot1> With a few grandfathered exceptions like "spectre". 20180711 04:38:48<+discordbot1> Or "sceptre". 20180711 04:39:17<+discordbot1> sceptre? 20180711 04:39:23<+discordbot1> is that british english for spectre? 20180711 04:39:57<+discordbot1> Spectre and sceptre are British for specter and scepter. 20180711 04:40:38<+discordbot1> spectre and specter are pronounced the same right? 20180711 04:40:44<+discordbot1> yeah I think so 20180711 04:40:45<+discordbot1> honestly all my life i've only seen it spelled spectre 20180711 04:40:51<+discordbot1> same XD 20180711 04:41:01<+discordbot1> btw crimson i just registered 20180711 04:41:05<+discordbot1> username Cirno-Moriya 20180711 04:41:07<+discordbot1> cool, okay! 20180711 04:41:14<+discordbot1> are you using Steam by the way? 20180711 04:41:21<+discordbot1> hai 20180711 04:41:28<+discordbot1> yes i am 20180711 04:41:37<+discordbot1> They are pronounced the same modulo regional variations on the pronunciation of terminal Rs. 20180711 04:41:45<+discordbot1> Okay cool :DDD 20180711 04:41:53<+discordbot1> shadow that whole line sounded like greek to me xD 20180711 04:42:01<+discordbot1> Wait. 20180711 04:42:01<+discordbot1> if u want to add me on steam then my username is 0000MiG4 20180711 04:42:07<+discordbot1> but your choice :)) 20180711 04:42:08<+discordbot1> I mean scepter and sceptre. 20180711 04:42:27<+discordbot1> Scepter and specter are definitely not the same, and neither are sceptre and spectre. 20180711 04:42:46<+discordbot1> i don't even know what a scepter is 20180711 04:42:49<+discordbot1> i just know about spectre 20180711 04:42:56<+discordbot1> scepter is like a magic rod I think? 20180711 04:43:00<+discordbot1> (At this point the four words are starting to look exactly the same to me.) 20180711 04:43:03<+discordbot1> oh, that sounds about right actually 20180711 04:43:11<+discordbot1> same tbh 20180711 04:43:13<+discordbot1> The Scepter of fire... x33 20180711 04:43:13<+discordbot1> A sceptre is a fancy rod basically. It doesn't have to be magic. 20180711 04:43:17<+discordbot1> ohh okay! 20180711 04:43:19<+discordbot1> they all have like really tiny differences in spelling 20180711 04:43:27<+discordbot1> i remember that word now 20180711 04:43:33<+discordbot1> i only know that word from baldur's gate 20180711 04:43:37<+discordbot1> haven't played that game in like 20180711 04:43:38<+discordbot1> literal decade 20180711 04:44:00<+discordbot1> brb gonna get more coffee 20180711 04:44:03<+discordbot1> Meanwhile a spectre is an otherworldy being of an ethereal constitution, much like a ghost. 20180711 04:44:21<+discordbot1> wait i have one last thing to say 20180711 04:44:22<+discordbot1> (Corollary: it's usually the same thing as a ghost.) 20180711 04:44:33<+discordbot1> "a spectre with a sceptre used his sceptre to summon more spectres" 20180711 04:44:35<+discordbot1> ok now for coffee 20180711 04:45:00<+discordbot1> seems i learned something new today... 20180711 04:45:50<+discordbot1> you use really complicated grammar words shadow 20180711 04:45:54<+discordbot1> i don't actually know half of them 20180711 04:46:22<+discordbot1> Lol if u have a british dude annotating or narrating an american person's quote then you can say 20180711 04:46:31<+discordbot1> oh lord 20180711 04:46:34<+discordbot1> i already know whats coming up 20180711 04:47:32<+discordbot1> "He talked about specters with purple clad scepters along the lines of: "a spectre with a sceptre used his sceptre to summon more spectres" when referring to one of his scientific findings in his archaeological dig project" 20180711 04:48:00<+discordbot1> i guess thats an american narrating a british xDD my bad 20180711 04:48:07<+discordbot1> hehe.. :3 20180711 04:48:22<+discordbot1> meh whatevs, lets play lad 20180711 04:48:32<+discordbot1> i guess i'll host or something 20180711 04:48:32<+discordbot1> ook ❀️ 20180711 04:48:36<+discordbot1> sure! 20180711 04:48:37<+discordbot1> i have a casual 300 mbps internet 20180711 04:51:35<+discordbot1> strange 20180711 04:51:39<+discordbot1> it is making me download 3 add ons 20180711 04:51:47<+discordbot1> but it says default era and cynsaun battlefield 20180711 04:51:57<+discordbot1> i am coming shortly :) 20180711 04:52:31<+discordbot1> hmmmm 20180711 04:52:34<+discordbot1> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/466466806006284298/image.jpg 20180711 04:53:51<+discordbot1> the i'm ready button is grayed out for me for some reason 20180711 04:54:08<+discordbot1> Yeah i think thats because it doesnt think im on yet 20180711 04:54:39<+discordbot1> well i'm gonna be the only faction i've ever tried playing in the campaign, even though i'm pretty sure its an overall weak faction 20180711 04:54:55<+discordbot1> X3 rebels? 20180711 04:54:57<+discordbot1> yup 20180711 04:55:10<+discordbot1> 😊😜 20180711 04:55:13<+discordbot1> i love my elves 20180711 04:55:35<+discordbot1> I will be northerners $$$ :D 20180711 04:55:40<+discordbot1> oh lovely 20180711 04:55:44<+discordbot1> i'll be fighting orcs 20180711 04:55:46<+discordbot1> xD 20180711 04:55:48<+discordbot1> like i haven't fought enough of those already 20180711 04:55:54<+discordbot1> but hey this is alright 20180711 04:55:59<+discordbot1> i have experience in warfare against orcs 20180711 04:56:02<+discordbot1> hahaha do you want me to play random instead? or other faction? 20180711 04:56:09<+discordbot1> nah orcs are fine 20180711 04:56:12<+discordbot1> Ok! 20180711 04:56:12<+discordbot1> i have experience fighting them 20180711 04:56:16<+discordbot1> :) 20180711 04:56:27<+discordbot1> almost done downloading stuff that i dont need xDD 20180711 04:58:43<+discordbot1> Prepare lad!!! 20180711 04:58:43<+discordbot1> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/466468353272184842/image.png 20180711 04:59:12<+discordbot1> once you get in here that is 20180711 04:59:25<+discordbot1> Yeah i dont know why it wants me to download 5 things xD 20180711 04:59:32<+discordbot1> thats really strange 20180711 04:59:39<+discordbot1> i just have default steam battle for wesnoth 20180711 04:59:40<+discordbot1> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/466468594696585216/image.jpg 20180711 04:59:44<+discordbot1> Hmm 20180711 04:59:58<+discordbot1> maybe you don't have steam? 20180711 05:00:04<+discordbot1> I do 20180711 05:00:12<+discordbot1> well then idk why its being stupid 20180711 05:00:13<+discordbot1> Steam wouldn't have anything to do in this case. 20180711 05:00:17<+discordbot1> it didn't ask me to download anything 20180711 05:00:45-!- Choicerer [~bodhidhar@185.9.19.107] has joined #wesnoth 20180711 05:01:16<+discordbot1> Are you sure you didn't try to join a different game first CC? 20180711 05:01:23<+discordbot1> Because it doesn't ask anything from me. 20180711 05:01:25<+discordbot1> Oh you could be right! 20180711 05:01:35<+discordbot1> Let me rejoin x3 20180711 05:01:47<+discordbot1> Whoops xD 20180711 05:02:04<+discordbot1> i mean you show as a connected player, but maybe shadows right 20180711 05:02:31<+discordbot1> Well its likely i accidentally tried to join a a different game that required those addons 20180711 05:02:32<+discordbot1> oh the i'm ready button is blue now 20180711 05:02:38<+discordbot1> are you in? 20180711 05:02:46<+discordbot1> not yet 20180711 05:02:52<+discordbot1> nope, you disco'd, well just try to join back in 20180711 05:03:00<+discordbot1> yeah:) 20180711 05:03:35< Choicerer> Hi, I just wanted to say I've removed my add-ons from the server and I hope nobody reuploads them. You have the most mentally ill mp community I've ever seen, it's like an international mental hospital. And I don't really feel like they should have access to those add-ons. 20180711 05:03:45< Choicerer> And it's severly undermoderated, too. 20180711 05:03:47< Choicerer> Sadly. 20180711 05:03:52-!- mode/#wesnoth [+o ShikadiQueen] by ChanServ 20180711 05:03:52-!- Choicerer was kicked from #wesnoth by ShikadiQueen [Choicerer] 20180711 05:04:06-!- mode/#wesnoth [+b *!*@185.9.19.107] by ShikadiQueen 20180711 05:04:11-!- mode/#wesnoth [-b shadowm!*@*] by ShikadiQueen 20180711 05:04:30-!- mode/#wesnoth [-o ShikadiQueen] by ShikadiQueen 20180711 05:06:58<+discordbot1> Ignore that. 20180711 05:09:51<+discordbot1> wow 20180711 05:12:44-!- ibispi [~quassel@46.17.149.69] has joined #wesnoth 20180711 05:15:18-!- Smedles [~quassel@101.172.2.212] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 20180711 05:16:45-!- Smedles [~quassel@101.172.2.212] has joined #wesnoth 20180711 05:28:27<+discordbot1> :bhammer: 20180711 05:28:42<+discordbot1> Still ignoring that. 20180711 05:30:04<+discordbot1> hammer of thursagen was a great campaing 20180711 05:41:27-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180711 05:41:33-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20180711 05:48:49<+discordbot1> Yeah it was nice :) 20180711 05:50:08<+discordbot1> @Cirno Moriya I am going to go run errands... Take care! ❀ ❀ and if you have any tactical related questions about being a better player, always feel free to ask in here specific questions... You can also post your replays in https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=39944 and check out other people's replays here too 20180711 05:51:52<+discordbot1> Oh you might not be able to check out other people's replays actually, because they run on different versions. But anyway you can post your replays in that link if you want somebody to go over your games :) 20180711 05:57:30-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20180711 06:37:04<+discordbot1> some of these campaign characters are flatter then a loli 20180711 06:38:11<+discordbot1> Yeah, many campaigns focus strongly on gameplay. 20180711 06:38:25<+discordbot1> "Story in a game is like a story in a porn movie. It's expected to be there, but it's not that important." --John Carmack 20180711 06:39:06<+discordbot1> I don't quite agree with that (a good story can greatly enhance a game), but the minimum standards for game stories is indeed quite low. 20180711 06:39:24<+discordbot1> i mean, its alright, i just wish they had a bit more depth 20180711 06:39:32<+discordbot1> the campaign gameplay is quite fun though 20180711 06:39:51<+discordbot1> unlike in normal multiplayer matches you get to see promoted units 20180711 06:39:53<+discordbot1> and thats pretty nifty 20180711 06:40:25<+discordbot1> You get to see them in multiplayer too if you're winning. 20180711 06:41:00<+discordbot1> In a 1v1 whoever gets the first L2 and manages to keep them alive for long enough has pretty much won the game. 20180711 06:41:34<+discordbot1> (Assuming both the map and the era are vanilla.) 20180711 06:42:08<+discordbot1> last multiplayer match i played nothing promoted 20180711 06:42:11<+discordbot1> i just died to a horde of orcs 20180711 06:42:45<+discordbot1> i do like the sheer ambitiousness of turn based strategy going multiplayer 20180711 06:42:50<+discordbot1> first time i've seen such an ambitious game 20180711 06:44:14<+discordbot1> I'm fairly sure there were multiplayer tbs games back in 2004 already. 20180711 06:44:25<+discordbot1> (When Wesnoth gained MP support.) 20180711 06:45:32<+discordbot1> Yes, that's right. For example, Heroes of Might and Magic IV (2002; one of my favorite games) has multiplayer support. 20180711 06:45:54<+discordbot1> also, am i crazy, or are elves just really weak? 20180711 06:46:40<+discordbot1> Depends who and what they're fighting. 20180711 06:54:30-!- Smedles [~quassel@101.172.2.212] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20180711 06:55:28<+discordbot1> if you want less flat characters 20180711 06:55:35<+discordbot1> you could play descent into darkness or the rise of wesnoth 20180711 06:55:38<+discordbot1> or invasion from the unknown 20180711 06:56:12<+discordbot1> most novice level and intermediate level campaigns have extremely flat characters, and certain expert level ones are guilty of the same 20180711 07:03:08-!- Smedles [~quassel@101.172.0.163] has joined #wesnoth 20180711 07:09:38-!- synthpopisback [~synthpopi@cpe-2606-A000-7947-5000-6CF6-4201-8CC-4C4A.dyn6.twc.com] has joined #wesnoth 20180711 07:15:09-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has joined #wesnoth 20180711 07:19:08<+discordbot1> well i don't think i'll ever be good enough for expert level 20180711 07:19:20<+discordbot1> most intermediatte level campaign missions take me an average of 4 attempts 20180711 08:02:07<+discordbot1> Try under the burning suns 20180711 08:02:34<+discordbot1> The thing about Expert Level is not that its so much harder 20180711 08:02:54<+discordbot1> But its that the rules of the game night be a bit different 20180711 08:03:11<+discordbot1> And so they make you use different strategies 20180711 08:23:00-!- Technato1 [~Technaton@nboffis102.offis.uni-oldenburg.de] has joined #wesnoth 20180711 08:24:00-!- louis94 [~~louis94@91.178.69.90] has joined #wesnoth 20180711 08:41:00<+discordbot1> and breaking the siege is savagely hard too 20180711 08:41:09<+discordbot1> now to drop another week straight trying to beat one mission 20180711 08:41:18<+discordbot1> intermediate difficulty campaigns are really really hard 20180711 08:44:15<+discordbot1> i might actually be in an unwinnable scenario, i don't have very many veteran units and i'm very deep into this campaign 20180711 08:56:29-!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20180711 08:58:27-!- Technato1 [~Technaton@nboffis102.offis.uni-oldenburg.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20180711 09:02:25-!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has joined #wesnoth 20180711 09:20:23-!- Smedles [~quassel@101.172.0.163] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 20180711 09:21:49-!- Smedles [~quassel@101.172.0.163] has joined #wesnoth 20180711 09:31:40-!- Smedles_ [~quassel@101.172.40.37] has joined #wesnoth 20180711 09:32:39-!- Smedles [~quassel@101.172.0.163] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20180711 09:38:58-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180711 09:39:04-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20180711 09:45:27-!- louis94 [~~louis94@91.178.69.90] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20180711 10:01:07-!- louis94 [~~louis94@91.178.69.90] has joined #wesnoth 20180711 10:10:27-!- louis94 [~~louis94@91.178.69.90] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20180711 10:16:02-!- zookeeper_ [~lmsnie@192.130.252.29] has joined #wesnoth 20180711 10:17:57-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20180711 10:23:24-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180711 10:23:30-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20180711 10:26:29-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180711 10:33:31< marmistrz> Is it possible to recruit an Elvish Lord in a multiplayer game altogether? 20180711 10:34:15< marmistrz> the elves don't have it as a unit, it can't be advanced from anything 20180711 10:34:20< marmistrz> (as a recruitment unit) 20180711 10:53:56<+discordbot1> @otaku2932 IS THAT YOU?? OMG HI :DDDD 20180711 10:54:19<+discordbot1> Wat? 20180711 10:54:25<+discordbot1> https://www.twitch.tv/otaku2932 One of the most active wesnoth streamers ❀ ❀ 20180711 10:54:29<+discordbot1> I am a fan of you :) XD 20180711 10:55:09<+discordbot1> But im not really active i just play random games 20180711 10:55:27<+discordbot1> In retrospect though... x)) 20180711 10:56:08<+discordbot1> i guess i saw a french person stream it early yesterday 20180711 10:57:05<+discordbot1> Well I wanted to say that I love your twitch!!! <3 and I am serious haha. You should keep pursuing your passions :) 20180711 10:57:19<+discordbot1> Very nice content and well organized x) 20180711 10:57:53<+discordbot1> Ahh thanks 20180711 10:58:15< Ravana_> 7 wesnoth streams over last 2 weeks is quite active 20180711 10:58:44<+discordbot1> 😍 You're welcome 😍 20180711 10:59:13<+discordbot1> :+1: 20180711 11:16:32<+discordbot1> I saw it and I got excited but he's not live? @Crimson_Conure 20180711 11:17:12<+discordbot1> I only realized now that he was on this server 20180711 11:17:16<+discordbot1> so I was like OMG!!!! XD 20180711 11:17:21<+discordbot1> ook 20180711 11:17:27<+discordbot1> Im a total fanboy of him xD :333 20180711 12:16:16-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has joined #wesnoth 20180711 12:24:06-!- sevu [~Shiki@141.57.59.125] has joined #wesnoth 20180711 12:41:23-!- sevu [~Shiki@141.57.59.125] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 20180711 12:50:48-!- zookeeper_ is now known as zookeeper 20180711 12:50:50-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@192.130.252.29] has quit [Changing host] 20180711 12:50:50-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20180711 12:58:51-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Quit: And lo! The computer falls into a deep sleep, to awake again some other day!] 20180711 13:13:56-!- hk238 [~kvirc@unaffiliated/hk238] has joined #wesnoth 20180711 13:49:26-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180711 13:49:32-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20180711 14:08:01-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180711 14:08:05-!- Appleman1234 [~quassel@124.185.42.197] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180711 14:08:07-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20180711 14:32:35-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180711 14:32:41-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20180711 14:38:41-!- Smedles [~quassel@58.174.33.191] has joined #wesnoth 20180711 14:38:41-!- Smedles_ [~quassel@101.172.40.37] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20180711 14:42:01-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180711 14:56:36<+discordbot1> hi guys, Wow... i cant believe BoW is still alive... 20180711 14:56:48<+discordbot1> all these years, 20180711 15:12:21<+discordbot1> tfw woses are your vanguard 20180711 15:12:28<+discordbot1> like just hurry up and move already you stupid trees 20180711 15:28:45-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180711 15:28:51-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20180711 15:30:55<+discordbot1> same here man 20180711 15:30:59<+discordbot1> (to evily) 20180711 15:31:04<+discordbot1> i played it years ago when i was younger 20180711 15:31:27<+discordbot1> i got back into it after i was reminded of it by a friend of mine who plays it 20180711 16:14:40-!- synthpopisback [~synthpopi@cpe-2606-A000-7947-5000-6CF6-4201-8CC-4C4A.dyn6.twc.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20180711 16:21:46-!- synthpopisback [~synthpopi@cpe-2606-A000-7947-5000-6C79-E60E-C427-77CC.dyn6.twc.com] has joined #wesnoth 20180711 16:25:50-!- gfgtdf [~gfgtdf@134.76.63.8] has joined #wesnoth 20180711 16:40:36-!- Elvish_Hunter [~elvish_hu@wesnoth/developer/elvish-hunter] has joined #wesnoth 20180711 17:04:49<+discordbot1> tfw you let a normal enemy unit promote into a terrifying monster 20180711 17:38:09<+discordbot1> lol 20180711 17:38:17<+discordbot1> i try to make sure that doesnt happen 20180711 17:38:24<+discordbot1> weaker enemies can promote easier into stronger ones (ghosts) 20180711 17:41:57-!- hk238 [~kvirc@unaffiliated/hk238] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 5.0.0 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/] 20180711 17:58:11-!- claymore [~claymore@unaffiliated/claymore] has joined #wesnoth 20180711 18:14:45-!- Narrat [~Narrat@p5DCC6DE4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20180711 19:02:30< marmistrz> Is there any way to get an elvish lord in an MP match? (default era) 20180711 19:03:01<+discordbot1> No, not without add-ons. 20180711 19:05:37< marmistrz> shadowm, is there any reason why the unit is present in the vanilla wesnoth but doesn't belong to any faction? maybe it was in the past but it hurt the balance? 20180711 19:14:47< oldlaptop> a mage without the melee weakness sounds imbalanced on the face of it 20180711 19:16:20< oldlaptop> even in campaigns, do you ever get more than exactly one, that you're not allowed to lose? 20180711 19:16:45< oldlaptop> (mainline campaigns) 20180711 19:18:50<+discordbot1> <Π…car> For the most part it is a strictly better elvish hero 20180711 19:20:15<+discordbot1> Some units are just better suited for single-player campaigns and not really designed with balanced human vs. human gameplay in mind. 20180711 19:22:42-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20180711 19:27:13-!- Narrat [~Narrat@p5DCC6DE4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20180711 19:28:29< marmistrz> That's a point but the unit could simply be expensive (and potentially have a higher upkeep cost) 20180711 19:28:43< marmistrz> [but it sounds to belong rather to AoH than default] 20180711 19:28:50< marmistrz> [if at all] 20180711 19:42:35-!- ibispi [~quassel@46.17.149.69] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20180711 19:53:55-!- Narrat [~Narrat@p2E51132F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20180711 20:06:49< zookeeper> there's no reason why a unit that exists should belong to a default era multiplayer faction. 20180711 20:33:25< oldlaptop> why is my imaginary Elvish Dominator with 15-5 magical ranged and melee not in default?! 20180711 20:47:00<+discordbot1> why is my 28-4 Troll cannoneer not in the game 20180711 20:48:09<+discordbot1> why is my Fire Fae with 176-1 magical not in the game 20180711 20:49:22<+discordbot1> but anyway, I think that the Elvish Lord line was designed as being a special unit for use in campaigns 20180711 20:49:27<+discordbot1> the dwarves were jealous πŸ˜› 20180711 20:49:40<+discordbot1> I think the Death Knight was the same 20180711 20:50:06<+discordbot1> I feel like drakes are good against rebels, because fire and blades are good against woses, and drakes are good at maneuvering. Thoughts? 20180711 20:50:23<+discordbot1> depends on the terrain 20180711 20:50:39<+discordbot1> Well a balanced 2p terrain is what im thinking of 20180711 20:50:39<+discordbot1> for a 1v1 20180711 20:50:56<+discordbot1> well so rebels tend to suffer on flat ground vs heavy hitters from loyalists, knalgans, and drakes 20180711 20:51:04<+discordbot1> mmm 20180711 20:51:24<+discordbot1> but drake defenses are so horribly awful, so any terrain with defense boosts (hills, mountains, castle, forest) and rebels are fine 20180711 20:51:26<+discordbot1> esp with slow 20180711 20:51:33<+discordbot1> in that case, you might be better off recruiting saurians 20180711 20:51:40<+discordbot1> I see 20180711 20:51:49<+discordbot1> woses are horrible against drakes 20180711 20:51:53<+discordbot1> but great against saurians 20180711 20:51:57<+discordbot1> for tanking damage, anyway 20180711 20:53:40<+discordbot1> drake units are also very expensive for what you get 20180711 20:57:56<+discordbot1> never bring woses against drakes 20180711 20:58:38<+discordbot1> elvish fighters can handle saurians, considering their price, their mobility and their usefulness against drakes if the opponent changes strategy they are always better 20180711 20:59:19<+discordbot1> would you just do fighter spam then? 20180711 20:59:35<+discordbot1> if the opponent builds his army on saurians, yes 20180711 21:00:04<+discordbot1> if you move against them with slow woses they can just retreat and recruit drakes instead 20180711 21:00:29<+discordbot1> I always felt that drakes were very situational and too easily countered 20180711 21:00:43<+discordbot1> so the drake player would be better off recruiting saurians 20180711 21:00:51<+discordbot1> but maybe there's a way to use the drakes effectively? 20180711 21:01:15<+discordbot1> no, against rebels drakes are doing fine 20180711 21:01:32<+discordbot1> but leveling augurs is a nice strategy too 20180711 21:01:48<+discordbot1> I don't mean the faction, I mean the actual drake units 20180711 21:02:00<+discordbot1> if they mass drakes say clashers or burners etc. 20180711 21:02:08<+discordbot1> should I respond with archers? 20180711 21:02:20<+discordbot1> saurians can be the main force against loyalists 20180711 21:02:23<+discordbot1> and thats about it 20180711 21:02:32<+discordbot1> everywhere else, drakes will give your core army 20180711 21:02:43<+discordbot1> huh, okay 20180711 21:02:43<+discordbot1> whats wrong with normal drakes against loyalists? 20180711 21:02:49<+discordbot1> too expensive 20180711 21:02:59<+discordbot1> spearman is 14 g, burner is 21, clasher is 19 20180711 21:03:04<+discordbot1> why arent they bad against northerners then? 20180711 21:03:07<+discordbot1> if northerners are even cheaper 20180711 21:03:27-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has joined #wesnoth 20180711 21:03:40<+discordbot1> saurians have pierce resistance and they level quickly, thats why they are key against loyalist 20180711 21:03:45<+discordbot1> ah 20180711 21:03:49<+discordbot1> but they are important against northerners too 20180711 21:03:59<+discordbot1> but they have blade and fire weakness so you cant build on them 20180711 21:04:15<+discordbot1> so short answer: resistances 20180711 21:04:32<+discordbot1> I see! If im rebels against drakes and they mass drakes and not saurians, then should I retaliate with archers for the pierce? 20180711 21:04:40<+discordbot1> or just fighters mostly? 20180711 21:04:44<+discordbot1> both 20180711 21:04:46<+discordbot1> okay 20180711 21:04:52<+discordbot1> a mix is the best 20180711 21:05:06<+discordbot1> and keep dextrous archers alive 20180711 21:05:16<+discordbot1> normal archer do 5-4 damage against drakes 20180711 21:05:24<+discordbot1> true 20180711 21:05:29<+discordbot1> but dextrous, because of that 1 more damage do 7-4 20180711 21:05:53<+discordbot1> I think that answers all my questions... Thank you ❀ 20180711 21:06:34<+discordbot1> but against northerners a saurian skirmisher thats well placed can be crucial 20180711 21:06:56<+discordbot1> preferably resilient and on a village where he gets 60% defense 20180711 21:06:58-!- iwaim [~iwaim@rasteenie.alib.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20180711 21:07:21<+discordbot1> grunts gamble with 2 hits, if that skirm can survive and retaliate well it can save the game 20180711 21:08:01-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20180711 21:11:28-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20180711 21:13:13<+discordbot1> mmm i see. Can I ask what your wesnoth strength is by the way? You seem very professional xD :P 20180711 21:13:42-!- iwaim [~iwaim@rasteenie.alib.jp] has joined #wesnoth 20180711 21:13:55<+discordbot1> Woah over 2100 elo!!!! 20180711 21:13:58<+discordbot1> :OOO 20180711 21:14:53-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has joined #wesnoth 20180711 21:14:53<+discordbot1> Krogen is really high on the ladder 20180711 21:15:19<+discordbot1> Yeah #5 oh my 20180711 21:15:21<+discordbot1> hahaha 20180711 21:15:30-!- Bhoren [~Bhoren_wh@2a01:e0a:c:2150:30c3:570a:a4c9:ac36] has joined #wesnoth 20180711 21:17:33-!- Appleman1234 [~quassel@1.120.98.249] has joined #wesnoth 20180711 21:19:09<+discordbot1> ladder is dying 20180711 21:19:27<+discordbot1> a good spot doesnt mean what it used to 20180711 21:20:12<+discordbot1> 🀷 20180711 21:21:13<+discordbot1> thats sad 20180711 21:25:23-!- louis94 [~~louis94@91.178.69.90] has joined #wesnoth 20180711 21:34:34-!- claymore [~claymore@unaffiliated/claymore] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20180711 21:51:52-!- Bhoren [~Bhoren_wh@2a01:e0a:c:2150:30c3:570a:a4c9:ac36] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180711 22:26:54-!- DasBrain [~Johannes1@unaffiliated/johannes13] has joined #wesnoth 20180711 22:31:33< Ravana_> Crimson_Conure: otaku is live now 20180711 22:46:21<+discordbot1> Oh thank you @Ravana <33 i am unfortunately busy now playing chess x33 im sorry Otaku! 20180711 22:47:27<+discordbot1> This is rated match 😁🧑 20180711 23:04:59-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180711 23:18:21-!- Appleman1234 [~quassel@1.120.98.249] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20180711 23:47:57-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has joined #wesnoth 20180711 23:59:34-!- celmin [~celticmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has joined #wesnoth --- Log closed Thu Jul 12 00:00:36 2018