--- Log opened Sun Jul 15 00:00:17 2018 --- Day changed Sun Jul 15 2018 20180715 00:00:17<+discordbot1> but if i don't circle around and go aggressive they're never going to attack me, meaning i'll run out of turns 20180715 00:00:18<+discordbot1> but some are better balanced as well 20180715 00:07:42<+discordbot1> then of course all the while i'm playing this theres stupid bs that can happen like missing all attacks on an 11x4 that has 70 percent hit 20180715 00:17:08-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180715 00:21:22<+discordbot1> hi everyone 20180715 00:22:31<+discordbot1> hello 20180715 00:22:51<+discordbot1> alright now i'm gonna try a completely blitzkrieg strategy and hope i can just murder the boss to stop the trickling reinforcements right off the get 20180715 00:24:25<+discordbot1> best way to do that I find is to sacrifice a unit ๐Ÿ˜‰ 20180715 00:25:59<+discordbot1> i wish i could just sacrafice one to punch through 20180715 00:26:04<+discordbot1> they outhorde me 3 to 1 20180715 00:26:05<+discordbot1> at least 20180715 00:26:35<+discordbot1> And them being skirmishers makes it difficult to protect units like your sharpshooter 20180715 00:26:57<+discordbot1> protecting units is pointless in this chapter 20180715 00:27:03<+discordbot1> theres no healing for anyone whose name isn't kalenz 20180715 00:27:07<+discordbot1> What campaign is it? 20180715 00:27:10<+discordbot1> since anyone who lands on a village destroys the village 20180715 00:27:15<+discordbot1> and you can't recruit or recall any healing units 20180715 00:27:18<+discordbot1> legend of wesmere 20180715 00:27:25<+discordbot1> campaign mission costly revenge 20180715 00:27:49< celmin> There's healing for Kalenz? 20180715 00:27:57<+discordbot1> he can land on a village without destroying it 20180715 00:28:00< celmin> Ah. 20180715 00:28:06<+discordbot1> hes the ONLY one who can land on a village without destroying it 20180715 00:28:08<+discordbot1> You can heal 2hp at a time 20180715 00:28:09<+discordbot1> ๐Ÿ˜‰ 20180715 00:28:17<+discordbot1> i guess in theory 20180715 00:28:30< celmin> Does that mean even Cleodil is going around destroying villages. 20180715 00:28:30<+discordbot1> though, turn limit 20180715 00:28:36<+discordbot1> lool 20180715 00:28:36<+discordbot1> no 20180715 00:28:39<+discordbot1> you don't GET cleodil 20180715 00:28:45<+discordbot1> or any shaman promotional line unit 20180715 00:28:55<+discordbot1> they decide storywise to not join you 20180715 00:29:11<+discordbot1> god i WISH i had cleodil 20180715 00:29:16<+discordbot1> the amount i would kill for ONE unit that can heal 20180715 00:29:22< celmin> Ahh. 20180715 00:30:57<+discordbot1> wow LITERALLY 3 to 1 20180715 00:31:01<+discordbot1> i can hire 5 units at a time 20180715 00:31:03<+discordbot1> they hire 15 at a time 20180715 00:31:47< celmin> XD 20180715 00:32:33<+discordbot1> Are you still at that point you showed in the screenshot? 20180715 00:32:54<+discordbot1> no i've been restarting over and over again 20180715 00:33:03<+discordbot1> trying to find a way to not get completely annialated 20180715 00:33:18<+discordbot1> but having 15 new enemy units to deal with every single turn when you can only recruit 5 20180715 00:33:22<+discordbot1> is kinda seriuos bullshit 20180715 00:33:42<+discordbot1> is the goal to kill them? 20180715 00:33:46<+discordbot1> yes 20180715 00:33:47<+discordbot1> all of them 20180715 00:33:50<+discordbot1> and burn all the villages 20180715 00:34:07<+discordbot1> Wow! The Elves are orcs in this case 20180715 00:34:27<+discordbot1> So much for their superficial stance of purity when it comes to morality 20180715 00:34:48<+discordbot1> if only i had some orcs to recruit, i'd love units that can take on more then 2 guys without dieing 20180715 00:34:50<+discordbot1> i really would 20180715 00:37:34<+discordbot1> Ah okay 20180715 00:37:46<+discordbot1> Yeah I mainly played for the story. Not the actual gameplay :'D 20180715 00:37:51<+discordbot1> I'm a sucker for story 20180715 00:38:09<+discordbot1> havent played this game for 10years xD 20180715 00:38:26<+discordbot1> Invasion from the Unknown and Bad Moon Rising are both better than any mainline campaign for me 20180715 00:38:30<+discordbot1> wb then lol 20180715 00:38:35<+discordbot1> thanks xd 20180715 00:38:36<+discordbot1> story-wise 20180715 00:39:20<+discordbot1> last I played (a looooong time ago), The Library of Kratemaqht or however you spell it was not bad either 20180715 00:40:29<+discordbot1> A New Order is one of the best story campaigns for me, but hasn't been ported yet (I actually might do it sometime, when I have time) 20180715 00:40:54<+discordbot1> same for After the Storm, shadowm's working on porting that now 20180715 00:48:24< celmin> A New Order? 20180715 00:48:34< celmin> Which one was that again? 20180715 00:49:11< celmin> Was that the one with khalifate that wasn't by Kwandulin? 20180715 00:49:18< celmin> Or maybe was by him, I forget. 20180715 00:49:28<+discordbot1> It's the one with the Akladians by szopen. 20180715 00:49:28< celmin> I just seem to recall at least one that wasn't. 20180715 00:49:37< celmin> Guess my guess was way off. 20180715 00:49:44 * celmin shrugs 20180715 00:49:46<+discordbot1> It originally featured the Aragwaithi in place of the Khalifate as mercenaries, but that was changed when it was ported to 1.12 (I think). 20180715 00:49:54<+discordbot1> (Either 1.12 or 1.10.) 20180715 00:50:22< celmin> Probably 1.12 then, because ISTR that that's one of the places I took Aragwaithi sprites from. 20180715 01:10:27-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180715 01:10:33-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20180715 01:13:23-!- Johannes13__ [~Johannes1@unaffiliated/johannes13] has joined #wesnoth 20180715 01:16:46<+discordbot1> Brain confused by all of these new names 20180715 01:16:49<+discordbot1> But I'll try those out 20180715 01:16:57<+discordbot1> I'll play under the burning suns today 20180715 01:17:04<+discordbot1> And then those later 20180715 01:17:19-!- Johannes13 [~Johannes1@unaffiliated/johannes13] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20180715 01:45:57-!- louis94 [~~louis94@91.178.69.90] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20180715 02:07:23<+discordbot1> In an awkward place where I don't want the scenarios I'm designing to be repetitive, but the more you change it the harder it is to balance 20180715 02:20:37<+discordbot1> Grand marshals are typically locked righT? 20180715 02:21:47<+discordbot1> It's the other way around. 20180715 02:22:14<+discordbot1> Normally they are available, but campaigns can define DISABLE_GRAND_MARSHAL through [campaign] extra_defines= to disable the advancement from General to GM. 20180715 02:22:30<+discordbot1> In mainline TRoW does that, in particular. 20180715 02:26:29-!- Appleman1234 [~quassel@1.120.98.249] has quit [Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 20180715 02:30:38-!- Appleman1234 [~quassel@1.120.98.249] has joined #wesnoth 20180715 02:49:57-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180715 02:50:03-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20180715 02:59:55<+discordbot1> Grandmaster? xP 20180715 03:00:21<+discordbot1> ohhh grand marshall 20180715 03:28:28-!- MarisaG [~marisa@2601:640:8200:c597:dd9b:6877:818a:ab88] has left #wesnoth [] 20180715 03:42:39<+discordbot1> I am going to have the first three scenarios of my campaign done (playable, finished mostly) sometime tomorrow. I'd love to get some feedback if anyone's interested. I don't want to post the unfinished campaign to the add-ons 20180715 03:45:11<+discordbot1> cool! I love playing people's campaigns ๐Ÿ˜„ 20180715 03:46:05<+discordbot1> why not post the unfinished one 20180715 03:48:32<+discordbot1> Personal preference, I guess. I hated being left hanging when I was really into a campaign. Not that anyone would be that dedicated into mine, but I suppose it's the thought 20180715 04:32:11<+discordbot1> if i may make a personal suggestion ,its generally a strong design choice to make something always beatable with base resources 20180715 04:32:19<+discordbot1> for later maps, making it just barely beatable suffices 20180715 04:32:31<+discordbot1> that way someone can't "screw themselves" out of being able to finish the campaign 20180715 04:32:47<+discordbot1> the player should always at all chapters have the resources to complete the chapter regardless of past mistakes 20180715 04:32:50<+discordbot1> even if it is "just barely" 20180715 04:33:10<+discordbot1> I would say that depends on what mode you play on 20180715 04:33:26<+discordbot1> and the campaign difficulty level 20180715 04:33:58<+discordbot1> That's actually what I wanted to ask earlier but I forgot 20180715 04:34:21<+discordbot1> with Eastern Invasion, a lot of the scenarios are near-impossible without advanced units from previous maps 20180715 04:34:30<+discordbot1> at least in my experience 20180715 04:34:41<+discordbot1> good or a bad thing? i don't know 20180715 04:35:05<+discordbot1> I think if a campaign is expert level 20180715 04:35:06<+discordbot1> i hardly think it incentivizes you because campaigns are linear 20180715 04:35:17<+discordbot1> needing resources from previous scenarios is part of the difficulty 20180715 04:36:38<+discordbot1> agreed 20180715 05:14:47<+discordbot1> EI is a pretty weird campaign in terms of balance 20180715 05:15:08<+discordbot1> its difficulty from scenario to scenario varies like mountainous topography 20180715 05:53:44-!- hk238 [~kvirc@unaffiliated/hk238] has joined #wesnoth 20180715 06:02:34-!- Appleman1234 [~quassel@1.120.98.249] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20180715 06:26:39-!- Johannes13 [~Johannes1@unaffiliated/johannes13] has joined #wesnoth 20180715 06:29:51-!- Johannes13__ [~Johannes1@unaffiliated/johannes13] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20180715 07:25:55-!- Appleman1234 [~quassel@1.120.98.249] has joined #wesnoth 20180715 07:28:01-!- ibispi [~quassel@46.17.149.69] has joined #wesnoth 20180715 07:39:29-!- lipkab [~lipk@host-91-147-210-58.biatv.hu] has joined #wesnoth 20180715 07:56:19-!- lipkab [~lipk@host-91-147-210-58.biatv.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20180715 08:18:55-!- lipkab [~lipk@host-91-147-210-58.biatv.hu] has joined #wesnoth 20180715 09:29:34-!- louis94 [~~louis94@91.178.69.90] has joined #wesnoth 20180715 09:36:01-!- louis94 [~~louis94@91.178.69.90] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20180715 09:46:21-!- lipkab [~lipk@host-91-147-210-58.biatv.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20180715 09:54:30-!- lipkab [~lipk@host-91-147-210-58.biatv.hu] has joined #wesnoth 20180715 11:02:32-!- Guest12748 [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has joined #wesnoth 20180715 11:04:00-!- Guest12748 [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20180715 11:05:01-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20180715 11:11:41<+discordbot1> I'm down to test some campaigns if there's writing 20180715 11:16:50-!- louis94 [~~louis94@91.178.69.90] has joined #wesnoth 20180715 11:26:25-!- louis94 [~~louis94@91.178.69.90] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20180715 11:49:42< Ravana_> seems that with 1.14.3 it is no longer possible to select units by clicking 20180715 11:52:19< Ravana_> I think it was not intentional change, since n still works 20180715 11:59:14-!- lipkab [~lipk@host-91-147-210-58.biatv.hu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180715 11:59:39-!- lipkab [~lipk@host-91-147-210-58.biatv.hu] has joined #wesnoth 20180715 12:12:24<+discordbot1> whats best eras to play? 20180715 12:33:19-!- claymore [~claymore@unaffiliated/claymore] has joined #wesnoth 20180715 12:35:03<+discordbot1> Ageless Era seems popular. But that is more like a combination of eras. 20180715 12:37:37<+discordbot1> And what do you want to have in that era? EoMa, EEaW, Ageless, there is many good eras. 20180715 12:38:49<+discordbot1> yesterday there were 134 games played with Ageless Era http://replays.wesnoth.org/1.14/20180714/ 20180715 12:41:24<+discordbot1> there were 131 games played with era: WC II 20180715 12:42:37<+discordbot1> How many games were played with default era? 20180715 12:43:28<+discordbot1> 305 with era: era_default 20180715 12:44:33<+discordbot1> (WC II = World Conquest II) 20180715 12:47:51<+discordbot1> there were 15 games with Bobs_RPG_Era ... that is a very cool era 20180715 12:49:01<+discordbot1> and 8 games with Era of Magic, also an impressive one to check out 20180715 12:56:58<+discordbot1> Yeaa EoMa is wonderful :)) and ageless too which is a collection of eras ya 20180715 12:57:20-!- Appleman1234 [~quassel@1.120.98.249] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20180715 13:07:48<+discordbot1> I think eeaw is quite underrated but it has its minuses. 20180715 13:08:30<+discordbot1> for those who don't know EEaW that Hejnewar is referring to stands for Eastern Europe at War 20180715 13:13:50-!- celmin [~celticmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Quit: And lo! The minstrel departs, to spread the music to the masses!] 20180715 14:18:44-!- louis94 [~~louis94@91.178.69.90] has joined #wesnoth 20180715 14:30:10<+discordbot1> yo 20180715 14:30:44<+discordbot1> hi 20180715 14:43:08-!- claymore [~claymore@unaffiliated/claymore] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20180715 14:49:06<+discordbot1> Hello 20180715 14:52:43<+discordbot1> I haven't really enjoyed futuristic Eras as much as I'd like to 20180715 14:52:48<+discordbot1> I don't know, it just doesn't fit for me. 20180715 14:52:49<+discordbot1> alright so heres the thing, from a design perspective with games such as these, designing a chapter unbeatable without certain resources gained over the course of the campaign makes the possiblity that someone will have to restart from the beginning 20180715 14:53:00<+discordbot1> which is inherently bad as thats what i like to call "designing to frustrate" 20180715 14:53:03<+discordbot1> which is a bad philosophy 20180715 14:53:05<+discordbot1> What difficulty are you playing on? 20180715 14:53:14<+discordbot1> i was responding to messages sent hours ago 20180715 14:53:19<+discordbot1> i just now noticed they were sent hours ago 20180715 14:54:16<+discordbot1> someone was saying that designing something to only be possible with resources gained/maintained from a previous scenario was "fair" 20180715 14:54:22<+discordbot1> i'm arguing that kind of design isn't fair 20180715 14:54:46<+discordbot1> but all the people who argued for the former are probably asleep now so nevermind 20180715 14:55:19<+discordbot1> Well what difficulty are you using? 20180715 14:56:09<+discordbot1> i'm saying regardless of difficulty thats a poor philosophy, even on expert 20180715 14:56:25<+discordbot1> not saying it has to be feasible to do it with only base scenario resources, but at least possible 20180715 14:57:07<+discordbot1> Well, I think to many the highest difficulty has the implication of the necessity to micro-manage your resources throughout the entire campaign 20180715 14:57:13<+discordbot1> then again this games actually slightly iffy when it comes to strategy game design philosophys because it has a ton of rng in it 20180715 14:57:33<+discordbot1> well i'll use a blunt example, fire emblem 20180715 14:57:49<+discordbot1> even if you don't raise up a single unit to promotion, the prepromotes make the game just about possible 20180715 14:57:53<+discordbot1> nowhere near easy, but possible 20180715 14:57:54<+discordbot1> Dave actually has an article explaining Luck and its relation to wesnoth 20180715 14:58:00<+discordbot1> link 20180715 14:58:03<+discordbot1> i'd actually like to read this 20180715 14:58:10<+discordbot1> i like design philosophy 20180715 14:58:19<+discordbot1> https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=21317 20180715 14:58:22<+discordbot1> It's quite the read 20180715 14:58:28<+discordbot1> thanks 20180715 14:58:44<+discordbot1> No problem. I THINK dave is the founder? 20180715 14:58:59<+discordbot1> Yes, he's the project founder. 20180715 15:01:08<+discordbot1> i disagree with a few things in this article, but i see the philosophy hes going for 20180715 15:01:17<+discordbot1> hes overassuming the simplicity of fire emblem AI tbh 20180715 15:01:43<+discordbot1> fire emblems AI..... is multiple simple AI's mixed together to make a complex scenario 20180715 15:01:45<+discordbot1> does that make sense? 20180715 15:02:13<+discordbot1> It has been awhile since I've played Fire Emblem 20180715 15:02:28<+discordbot1> like that fighter 10 tiles away has a different script he follows then the fighter 12 tiles away 20180715 15:02:45<+discordbot1> and a lot of enemies move toward you exactly when you get into a certain enemies way, all brilliantly hidden 20180715 15:02:55<+discordbot1> so the enemy becomes almost unpredictable as a result 20180715 15:03:54<+discordbot1> Why don't you make suggestions in the Legend of Wesmere thread in which scenarios to change in a way that makes it possible to complete with base resources? 20180715 15:04:21<+discordbot1> actually curiosities sake how is this games rng generated? 20180715 15:04:30<+discordbot1> because i kind of notice reseting to get better luck almost never actually works 20180715 15:04:35<+discordbot1> so is it preset like i'm thinking it is? 20180715 15:04:50<+discordbot1> or rather stored in memory as its rolled 20180715 15:04:56<+discordbot1> No, the RNG seed isn't saved by default. 20180715 15:05:52<+discordbot1> when this guy says its extremely unlikely for a unit to miss 4 times in a row i'm remembering the one scenario i got screwed over by missing 4 attacks of 70 percent accuracy in a row 20180715 15:06:11<+discordbot1> it only happened once but man that made me salty 20180715 15:06:28<+discordbot1> The probability for that is 0,81 %. 20180715 15:06:33<+discordbot1> Perfectly possible. 20180715 15:07:04<+discordbot1> missing 4 99 percent attacks in a row is also perfectly possible 20180715 15:07:07<+discordbot1> doesn't make it any less frustrating 20180715 15:07:33<+discordbot1> So should it just hit it 100% of the time? 20180715 15:07:55<+discordbot1> i wasn't making a suggestion, i was just reccolecting salt 20180715 15:07:57<+discordbot1> don't mind that 20180715 15:08:24<+discordbot1> For 99%, the chance to miss four times in a row would be about the same as winning the lottery (depending on wehere you live, because the loottery has different chances in different countries). 20180715 15:08:43<+discordbot1> With the exception that you'll get to try much more often than once per week. 20180715 15:08:45<+discordbot1> idk, i'll know once i play other campaigns, but i think just the campaign i'm playing in specific makes luck a lot more noticeable 20180715 15:08:52<+discordbot1> because you need damn decent levels of it to be victorious 20180715 15:09:18<+discordbot1> like there are multiple times i feel i'm kinda "forced" to rely on getting some luck 20180715 15:09:38<+discordbot1> but beating a dead horse as its the one campaign that everyones questioning right now 20180715 15:10:38<+discordbot1> What would be the alternative? Static damage for each unit with guranteed success? 20180715 15:11:06<+discordbot1> That would be unfun. 20180715 15:13:28<+discordbot1> And this game would become to easy to balance after that. Not to mention that current day and night system could be ruined by this change. 20180715 15:13:30<+discordbot1> i'm just saying the rng is a bit bonkers 20180715 15:13:48<+discordbot1> provide me a way that works even 50 percent of the time to beat "a costly revenge" from the legend of wesmere campaign 20180715 15:13:53<+discordbot1> i've been working on that fucker all week 20180715 15:13:55<+discordbot1> multiple hours a day 20180715 15:16:30<+discordbot1> and the wiki strategy guide seems to be very out of date 20180715 15:16:55<+discordbot1> could try doing this: https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=48160 There 's been a release after that was posted, so it'd be in 1.14.3. 20180715 15:17:14<+discordbot1> not exactly the easiest to enable though 20180715 15:18:33<+discordbot1> Well getting hit 4 times in a row at in multi game for me is not fun. But when stupid things work rng is fun ๐Ÿ˜„ 20180715 15:18:42<+discordbot1> What is this refering to? Also, this mod does not "cheat for the player". It is entirely agnostic as to whether it is the AI or the player who is attacking. 20180715 15:19:36<+discordbot1> Like it says, it's not tipping the scales in favor of either the AI or the player. 20180715 15:19:46<+discordbot1> I wasn't aware that they were tipped 20180715 15:20:10<+discordbot1> they aren't 20180715 15:20:18<+discordbot1> its specifying that this mod doesn't do so either 20180715 15:20:18<+discordbot1> It just makes the RNG behavior match human intuition better (in partiucular, gambler's fallacy is true if you enable it). 20180715 15:21:28<+discordbot1> Hmm, I guess I just perceived it wrong. To me, he was implying the current state is tipped in favor of players. 20180715 15:24:58<+discordbot1> about Costly Revenge, it's always worked for me to spam fighters and stick them in the starting forest near the keep, then wait for the saurians to get on the ice 20180715 15:26:14<+discordbot1> Saurians on Ice sounds like a nice skating show 20180715 15:26:51<+discordbot1> ๐ŸฆŽ โ›ธ 20180715 15:27:21<+discordbot1> @Inky what do you mean? 20180715 15:27:34<+discordbot1> what do you do once they are "on ice"? 20180715 15:27:46<+discordbot1> because they won't attack you from ice on a forest front, you need to go out and meet them 20180715 15:28:11<+discordbot1> hmm for me they always attacked no matter what, I wonder if it's different now 20180715 15:28:16<+discordbot1> but they have triple the recruiting power 20180715 15:28:19<+discordbot1> i think it must be 20180715 15:28:27<+discordbot1> I've only played on 1.12 20180715 15:28:29<+discordbot1> because i've sat on that forest front for 5 turns and not had them attack me 20180715 15:28:31<+discordbot1> despite being in range 20180715 15:28:44<+discordbot1> you were putting L3 units in front of the ice though, weren't you? 20180715 15:28:58<+discordbot1> oh, i suppose i was 20180715 15:29:00<+discordbot1> Yeah, it's possible that the AI improvements in the meantime have made the scenario harder than it's even intended to be. ๐Ÿคท 20180715 15:29:04<+discordbot1> my L3 units need to do SOMETHING 20180715 15:29:06<+discordbot1> maybe the AI aggression needs a tweak 20180715 15:29:12<+discordbot1> that would help a lot 20180715 15:29:19<+discordbot1> if these hordes actually attacked me 20180715 15:29:21<+discordbot1> it'd be manageable 20180715 15:29:53<+discordbot1> maybe use some bait like a wounded recruit, the AI always goes for that 20180715 15:30:07<+discordbot1> yea, then he dies 20180715 15:30:18<+discordbot1> and what do i do then, attack one of them once and maybe kill 1 of their dudes 20180715 15:30:45<+discordbot1> difficult to move on terrain combined with their clumpiness makes a surround tactic nearly impossible to reasonably pull off 20180715 15:31:30<+discordbot1> there are some replays on the forum, but they're from 1.12 so not sure if they are still relevant 20180715 15:31:53<+discordbot1> if you post your save maybe someone could try beating it 20180715 15:32:00<+discordbot1> ah, can i? 20180715 15:32:06<+discordbot1> wheres it stashed? 20180715 15:32:17<+discordbot1> i wanna try throwing it here 20180715 15:32:50<+discordbot1> click the i in the lower left corner of wesnoth, it will open a window listing the paths for all your game stuff 20180715 15:37:28<+discordbot1> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/468078657118928897/LoW-Costly_Revenge.gz 20180715 15:37:36<+discordbot1> i think this is it 20180715 15:40:03<+discordbot1> yeah, that's it. I'll try playing with your starting save 20180715 15:40:44<+discordbot1> thanks 20180715 15:41:30-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has joined #wesnoth 20180715 16:01:37-!- lipkab [~lipk@host-91-147-210-58.biatv.hu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20180715 16:04:57<+discordbot1> @Inky is it as horrible as it sounds? 20180715 16:06:08<+discordbot1> ah i just started playing the scenario 20180715 16:06:29<+discordbot1> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/468085957506236427/unknown.png 20180715 16:06:40<+discordbot1> they're coming for me! 20180715 16:09:32<+discordbot1> wait for me pls 20180715 16:09:41<+discordbot1> ๐Ÿ˜„ 20180715 16:22:15<+discordbot1> yikes, that didn't go well 20180715 16:22:21<+discordbot1> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/468089952903626752/unknown.png 20180715 16:22:28<+discordbot1> going to start over and use more gold at the start 20180715 16:22:37<+discordbot1> I recognize that scenario... without the snow 20180715 16:22:42<+discordbot1> ๐Ÿค” 20180715 16:23:23<+discordbot1> yeah, the version without the snow is called the saurian treasury, it's earlier in the campaign 20180715 16:23:40<+discordbot1> this is the much more annoying version ๐Ÿ˜› 20180715 16:25:01<+discordbot1> ahh 20180715 16:25:13<+discordbot1> this seems winnable to me ๐Ÿค” 20180715 16:26:22<+discordbot1> ah well i already got both the level 3 loyals killed 20180715 16:26:38<+discordbot1> haha 20180715 16:34:11<+discordbot1> I'm doing okay 20180715 16:34:37<+discordbot1> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/468093037981990912/unknown.png 20180715 16:37:15<+discordbot1> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/468093701646712832/unknown.png 20180715 16:38:09<+discordbot1> Utilize the grand marshal! 20180715 16:38:36<+discordbot1> @Inky you started with 408 gold right? 20180715 16:38:48<+discordbot1> yeah 20180715 16:38:53<+discordbot1> mkay 20180715 16:42:40<+discordbot1> good couple turns for me 20180715 16:42:54<+discordbot1> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/468095123209846784/Capture.JPG 20180715 16:44:40<+discordbot1> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/468095567533178882/unknown.png 20180715 16:45:08<+discordbot1> whew, night's finally almost over 20180715 16:46:12<+discordbot1> okay now it's dawn and there are a lot less elves than before ๐Ÿ˜ฆ 20180715 16:48:27<+discordbot1> <ะ…car> Which difficulty are you playing on? I remember that scenario being nearly impossible on the highest one 20180715 16:49:21<+discordbot1> medium 20180715 16:49:37<+discordbot1> i've done it a couple times on hard, but you need a better recall list 20180715 16:50:00<+discordbot1> this save only has 3 level 3 veterans 20180715 16:50:37<+discordbot1> Anyone know of a resource which has stuff like Anvils embelishments? in it 20180715 16:50:40<+discordbot1> plus the loyals 20180715 16:51:42<+discordbot1> <ะ…car> When I played it I got stuck with about 250 gold against over 1000 + income 20180715 16:52:51-!- sigurdfd [sigurdfd@dynamic-acs-72-23-110-196.zoominternet.net] has joined #wesnoth 20180715 16:55:50<+discordbot1> okay 20180715 16:55:55<+discordbot1> I played kinda carelessly 20180715 16:55:56<+discordbot1> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/468098402404532225/unknown.png 20180715 16:55:57<+discordbot1> but the job got done 20180715 16:56:01<+discordbot1> sdgksa 20180715 16:56:35<+discordbot1> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/468098567190478849/LoW-Costly_Revenge_replay.gz 20180715 16:57:03<+discordbot1> few more losses than I normally would have but meh 20180715 16:57:15<+discordbot1> too lazy to play it better rn 20180715 16:57:53<+discordbot1> @Cirno Moriya ^ replay, it's winnable, but probably not intermediate level 20180715 16:58:06<+discordbot1> well, idk 20180715 16:58:19<+discordbot1> hmm... 20180715 16:59:25-!- louis94 [~~louis94@91.178.69.90] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20180715 17:00:44-!- sigurdfd [sigurdfd@dynamic-acs-72-23-110-196.zoominternet.net] has quit [] 20180715 17:09:22<+discordbot1> well i ended up getting kalenz killed too 20180715 17:09:25<+discordbot1> i hate saurians 20180715 17:09:33<+discordbot1> i will learn from yumi's replay ๐Ÿ˜„ 20180715 17:09:51<+discordbot1> I guess if Inky's having this much trouble, probably expert level at least 20180715 17:09:57<+discordbot1> so def could use some rebalancing 20180715 17:11:08<+discordbot1> well i didn't spend all the starting gold, but I could have sworn you can beat it with much less gold 20180715 17:11:16<+discordbot1> you can 20180715 17:11:22<+discordbot1> I overrecruited by about 7-8 fighters 20180715 17:11:39<+discordbot1> although I figured you might as well spend all you rgold 20180715 17:11:47<+discordbot1> since you don't use it later 20180715 17:12:36<+discordbot1> <ะ…car> I also managed to beat it, but I'd definitely say this is the hardest scenario in the campaign 20180715 17:12:58<+discordbot1> I seem to remember a replay on the forums on hard which started with minimum gold!! I wonder how they managed 20180715 17:13:13<+discordbot1> I think it's doable 20180715 17:13:16<+discordbot1> if you have the right recalls 20180715 17:15:49<+discordbot1> <ะ…car> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/468103405496172544/LoW-Costly_Revenge_replay.gz 20180715 17:26:48-!- celmin [~celticmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has joined #wesnoth 20180715 17:37:21<+discordbot1> wow, nice replays ๐Ÿ˜ƒ 20180715 17:38:01<+discordbot1> yumi managed to wipe out most of the saurians during the day, maybe that's the way to go instead of hiding in the starting forest like I always did 20180715 17:38:24<+discordbot1> I'm pretty sure kalenz should have died a couple times though ๐Ÿ˜› 20180715 17:38:56<+discordbot1> and scar managed to win despite bad luck, that's pretty impressive! 20180715 17:41:48<+discordbot1> yup that's why I said I played carelessly 20180715 17:41:50<+discordbot1> @Yumi literally teach me 20180715 17:42:03<+discordbot1> what the hell did you do to win? 20180715 17:42:11<+discordbot1> if I had bad luck kalenz would have lost 20180715 17:42:20<+discordbot1> err died 20180715 17:42:31<+discordbot1> so can i like watch these? 20180715 17:42:35<+discordbot1> are these watcheable? 20180715 17:43:09<+discordbot1> yeah, copy them into your saves folder 20180715 17:44:49<+discordbot1> yes 20180715 17:45:17<+discordbot1> so one thing to realize is nothing says you have to attack every turn 20180715 17:45:54<+discordbot1> I usually don't like attacking unless I can do double (or so) the damage I'll take in return 20180715 17:46:16<+discordbot1> but how do i attack then? 20180715 17:46:20<+discordbot1> how do i break through the enemy? 20180715 17:46:43<+discordbot1> by killing them ๐Ÿ˜‚ 20180715 17:47:32<+discordbot1> so like inky said, probably don't attack at night 20180715 17:47:46<+discordbot1> you can go on the offensive during the day without being afraid 20180715 17:47:57<+discordbot1> dumb snake lizzards 20180715 17:48:29<+discordbot1> saurians have bad stats so without their night bonus they really don't do much 20180715 17:49:08<+discordbot1> so don't attack at night, retreat to a defensive front at the point of nightfall? 20180715 17:50:30<+discordbot1> yup 20180715 17:51:07<+discordbot1> but go on the aggressive during every daytime? 20180715 17:51:14<+discordbot1> and pray i don't take too many casualties on the chin? 20180715 17:51:14<+discordbot1> yeah 20180715 17:51:26<+discordbot1> you shouldn't, the saurians are so weak at day 20180715 17:52:50<+discordbot1> archers against the lvl 2 and 3 melee Syrians 20180715 17:52:54<+discordbot1> saurians grrr 20180715 17:52:57<+discordbot1> autocorrect 20180715 17:52:59<+discordbot1> oh i want archers??? 20180715 17:53:08<+discordbot1> the wiki said to spam fighters 20180715 17:53:08<+discordbot1> nah you only need the sharpshooters 20180715 17:53:14<+discordbot1> those are enough 20180715 17:53:17<+discordbot1> oh you mean my 2 sharshooters 20180715 17:53:18<+discordbot1> alright 20180715 17:53:27<+discordbot1> and then fighters can kill the rest 20180715 17:53:38<+discordbot1> alright i'll give this one run of the mill shot before bed 20180715 17:53:41<+discordbot1> wish me luck 20180715 17:53:49<+discordbot1> good luck! ๐Ÿ˜„ 20180715 17:53:49<+discordbot1> where should the bulk of my army be? 20180715 17:53:55<+discordbot1> good luck ๐Ÿ˜† 20180715 17:53:57<+discordbot1> and how many scouts should i recruit? 20180715 17:53:59<+discordbot1> fighters 20180715 17:54:08<+discordbot1> I did 2, technically you don't need any 20180715 17:54:09<+discordbot1> no i mean physically WHERE 20180715 17:54:12<+discordbot1> like on the map 20180715 17:54:19<+discordbot1> ohhh 20180715 17:54:26<+discordbot1> starting location is fine 20180715 17:54:31<+discordbot1> 2 fighters.... i didn't think this was possible with 10 20180715 17:54:33<+discordbot1> let alone 2 20180715 17:54:37<+discordbot1> stay close to the forests 20180715 17:54:48<+discordbot1> oh wait 20180715 17:54:50<+discordbot1> you meant scouts 20180715 17:54:52<+discordbot1> yea 2 scouts 20180715 17:54:54<+discordbot1> that sounds right 20180715 17:56:27<+discordbot1> and remember that leveling a unit basically gets you a full heal and gives you a much stronger guy 20180715 17:57:28<+discordbot1> hm 20180715 17:57:35<+discordbot1> do dwarves refer to their superiors as sir 20180715 17:57:39<+discordbot1> or whatever 20180715 17:58:58<+discordbot1> aye, sir! 20180715 17:59:04<+discordbot1> it sounds okay to me 20180715 17:59:08<+discordbot1> HMMM 20180715 17:59:27<+discordbot1> yeah i think your right 20180715 18:01:44<+discordbot1> jesus fuck what the hell rng 20180715 18:01:51<+discordbot1> i just lost kalenz turn 3 20180715 18:01:57<+discordbot1> from taking on 3 saurians 20180715 18:02:05<+discordbot1> on the defense 20180715 18:03:07<+discordbot1> the RNG just needed a sacrifice 20180715 18:03:13<+discordbot1> it'll go better next time 20180715 18:08:57-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180715 18:09:03-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20180715 18:19:28<+discordbot1> uuuuuuugh i keep getting shit on 20180715 18:19:34<+discordbot1> they just get too much ground on me every night phase 20180715 18:20:21-!- hk238 [~kvirc@unaffiliated/hk238] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 5.0.0 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/] 20180715 18:43:17<+discordbot1> fuck it, i guess i'll try it more tomorrow, i still can't beat this chapter 20180715 18:43:45<+discordbot1> the lack of healing really hurts because while i can stay strong for a while eventually my entire army crumbles, almost all in one turn 20180715 18:43:55<+discordbot1> just from all the chip damage that gets done to them 20180715 18:47:41<+discordbot1> you have to heal some of your units by leveling up. this scenario does seem wayyy to hard for an intermediate campaign on normal difficulty though 20180715 18:47:49<+discordbot1> *too 20180715 18:53:09<+discordbot1> Do I need to give warnings for language use of "Damn!" and "Hell" infrequently 20180715 19:03:11<+discordbot1> regarding something in particular? 20180715 19:30:36< zookeeper> both are used even in mainline campaigns, so... 20180715 19:36:21<+discordbot1> You don't need to worry about those two words in particular. 20180715 19:47:10-!- louis94 [~~louis94@91.178.69.90] has joined #wesnoth 20180715 20:02:34-!- louis94 [~~louis94@91.178.69.90] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20180715 20:10:21-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180715 20:10:27-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20180715 20:12:39-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has quit [Quit: So long and thanks for all the fish.] 20180715 20:16:43-!- ibispi [~quassel@46.17.149.69] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180715 20:17:15<+discordbot1> what is hell? 20180715 20:17:18<+discordbot1> is it a state of mind? 20180715 20:17:41<+discordbot1> there was some acronym about no religious stuff in wesnoth even (as violated in utbs) 20180715 20:18:42<+discordbot1> so hell may break the setting a bit 20180715 20:18:52<+discordbot1> as there isn't something like that in the world of wesnoth 20180715 20:21:13<+discordbot1> Don't overthink it. 20180715 20:21:27<+discordbot1> And UtBS didn't really violate anything. 20180715 20:21:38<+discordbot1> The point was to avoid referencing real world religions. 20180715 20:22:14<+discordbot1> Taking inspiration from them wasn't ever off-limits and UtBS' approach is so soft you could make donuts with it. 20180715 20:23:00<+discordbot1> didn't they call their god something similar to Elohim? 20180715 20:24:02<+discordbot1> Yes. 20180715 20:24:49<+discordbot1> Except she's not called the full thing and otherwise bears little resemblance to the Abrahamic god. 20180715 20:24:56<+discordbot1> (See also above.) 20180715 20:27:18<+discordbot1> Didnt one mainline campaign say 'Shit!' 20180715 20:27:41<+discordbot1> like httt i think if anything but I cant remember 20180715 20:28:15<+discordbot1> Uh no. 20180715 20:28:45<+discordbot1> You can find curse words in the game engine's source code though. 20180715 20:28:52<+discordbot1> hahh 20180715 20:28:55<+discordbot1> (Not in strings that are displayed to users.) 20180715 20:29:30<+discordbot1> Oh sorry 20180715 20:36:44-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180715 20:36:50-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20180715 20:41:36<+discordbot1> im drunk and i want to talk. AMLA healing is very very bad, at least for campaigns, it pushes "good play" in a very annoying direction 20180715 20:41:42<+discordbot1> agree or disagree? 20180715 20:41:51<+discordbot1> all levelup healing* 20180715 20:41:56< celmin> ??? 20180715 20:42:01<+discordbot1> !!! 20180715 20:42:05< celmin> $$$ 20180715 20:42:43<+discordbot1> i was looking at inky's screenshot earlier: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/231976805987385345/468098402404532225/unknown.png?width=400&height=225 20180715 20:42:58<+discordbot1> and remembered the horrible upgrade-healing-dependence in that scenario 20180715 20:43:22<+discordbot1> it goes against everything that wesnoth strategy should be about imo; it's not bad in normal mp, but it is very bad campaigns 20180715 20:44:32<+discordbot1> if i could design everything from scratch, i'd go for something like: upgrading gives you 8 hp, that's reasonable, no full heal 20180715 20:44:53<+discordbot1> and i know i know, now all the campaigns already expect upgrade healing 20180715 20:45:01<+discordbot1> so changing it now is a moot point 20180715 20:45:04<+discordbot1> still 20180715 20:46:42<+discordbot1> ๐Ÿ˜ฆ 20180715 20:47:11<+discordbot1> this goes for all levelup healing, but especially for AMLA healing 20180715 20:49:23-!- Jordys [~Jordys@160.154.136.152] has joined #wesnoth 20180715 20:50:07<+discordbot1> and im a fraud of course >_> 20180715 20:50:24< celmin> That's exactly what a fraud wouldn't say. 20180715 20:51:21<+discordbot1> i mean i do play wesnoth but like 10 games once every 6 months, for nostalgic memories 20180715 20:51:35<+discordbot1> Okay. 20180715 20:51:36<+discordbot1> so im obviously not someone to speak of "wesnoth strategy" :DDD 20180715 20:51:38< celmin> Fair 20180715 20:51:41<+discordbot1> Wasn't even shit used 20180715 20:51:42<+discordbot1> in mainline 20180715 20:51:46<+discordbot1> Now go sober your ass up 20180715 20:51:47< celmin> ...? 20180715 20:51:50<+discordbot1> no 20180715 20:51:52<+discordbot1> absolutely not 20180715 20:51:57<+discordbot1> It was in the Estonian translation 20180715 20:51:57<+discordbot1> lmao 20180715 20:52:01< celmin> ??? 20180715 20:52:14<+discordbot1> Son of the Blackeye 20180715 20:52:17<+discordbot1> You mean a word in Estonian that's spelled the same, or an Estonian equivalent? 20180715 20:52:29<+discordbot1> Because if it's the latter then you need to bring it up with the Estonian translation team. 20180715 20:52:29<+discordbot1> The Estonian word for shit 20180715 20:52:44<+discordbot1> I think so atleast 20180715 20:52:46<+discordbot1> I can recheck in a bit 20180715 20:52:53<+discordbot1> Or otherwise point us to the exact line so we can bring it up with them. 20180715 20:52:55<+discordbot1> Maybe I was too sleep deprived when I played that though 20180715 20:54:08<+discordbot1> Is there a rule against swearing in campaigns or just mainline cause kids could play 20180715 20:54:53<+discordbot1> Mainline's prose is supposed to be clean for early teens approximately. 20180715 20:54:55<+discordbot1> fantasy threats in the style of "you will be meat for our wolves!" are vastly preferrable to swearing 20180715 20:55:14< celmin> Poor wolves. 20180715 20:55:16<+discordbot1> (often swearing is interchangeable with that) 20180715 20:55:37<+discordbot1> Huh yeah Ill check after my League game 20180715 20:56:14< celmin> But "crap" is fine, right? 20180715 20:56:44< celmin> Mind you I don't remember seeing that anywhere either. 20180715 20:56:50<+discordbot1> Yes it is. 20180715 20:57:48<+discordbot1> what does Project Member mean, can i be a Project Member :> 20180715 20:58:03<+discordbot1> You're not a project memeber. 20180715 20:58:06<+discordbot1> :< 20180715 20:58:30<+discordbot1> commit access? 20180715 20:58:59<+discordbot1> (is that what it means?) 20180715 20:59:03< celmin> Pretty much 20180715 20:59:16<+discordbot1> ah 20180715 20:59:32<+discordbot1> i do wish for commit access 20180715 20:59:50<+discordbot1> Send pullรถ requests, then. 20180715 20:59:56<+discordbot1> i would remove NR from mainline and replace all animations with the sprites spinning like Sonic 20180715 20:59:59< celmin> Random รถ 20180715 21:00:07<+discordbot1> Removed. 20180715 21:00:37<+discordbot1> (My new keyboard is extremely sensitive. It's easy to make typos.) 20180715 21:00:41< celmin> Ah. 20180715 21:00:43-!- louis94 [~~louis94@91.178.69.90] has joined #wesnoth 20180715 21:01:09< celmin> And I guess it's a Finnish keyboard so things like รถ might be easier to type than on an American one. 20180715 21:01:21<+discordbot1> Right next to L. 20180715 21:01:28< celmin> Oh, I see. 20180715 21:01:31-!- Jordys [~Jordys@160.154.136.152] has quit [Quit: Surfing on clouds to the exit gate] 20180715 21:12:27-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180715 21:12:33-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20180715 21:20:33< zookeeper> the thing i dislike most on finnish keyboards is how ' is right next to enter, and hitting enter accidentally when typing in english is highly inconvenient in irc etc. 20180715 21:20:57< zookeeper> ...not that know where it is on other keyboards. 20180715 21:21:29<+discordbot1> Right... next to enter. 20180715 21:21:53<+discordbot1> but there would alays be some key next to enter in that place; why is ' in particular inconvenient? 20180715 21:22:42<+discordbot1> more than once I've hit enter when trying to do a contraction 20180715 21:23:07< zookeeper> because you use it way more often than, say, the keys for `ยด^~ยจ and such with which that space next to enter could be solely filled with 20180715 21:23:28<+discordbot1> i never ever use ' except for surrounding chars 20180715 21:23:35<+discordbot1> " is life 20180715 21:25:39< zookeeper> as there isn't something like that in the world of wesnoth 20180715 21:25:40< zookeeper> liar 20180715 21:25:49<+discordbot1> ??? 20180715 21:26:08< zookeeper> you used a '! 20180715 21:26:14<+discordbot1> bad people get sent to Northern Rebirth? 20180715 21:26:19<+discordbot1> ohh fuck 20180715 21:26:30<+discordbot1> i entirely forgot about the isn't and don't and i'm 20180715 21:26:44<+discordbot1> yes i see now 20180715 21:27:19<+discordbot1> Alright 20180715 21:27:28<+discordbot1> Let's see 20180715 21:28:47< Ravana_> I set up my irc client to add ' to most common words that use it 20180715 21:30:09< Ravana_> other than that, I only use ' for semiformal text, as formal would not use short forms in the first place 20180715 21:30:34<+discordbot1> Yep. Found it 20180715 21:30:39<+discordbot1> @shadowm 20180715 21:31:33<+discordbot1> https://prnt.sc/k6spq2 20180715 21:32:32< Ravana_> that is more like crap 20180715 21:33:25<+discordbot1> https://translate.google.com/#auto/en/pasakotte 20180715 21:34:27<+discordbot1> https://prnt.sc/k6sqg4 20180715 21:34:32<+discordbot1> Pasakotte is plural of Pasakott 20180715 21:34:40<+discordbot1> Pasakott is made out of Pasa and kott 20180715 21:34:55<+discordbot1> pask 20180715 21:35:09<+discordbot1> is the base word 20180715 21:35:12<+discordbot1> but yeah its crapbags i gues 20180715 21:35:23<+discordbot1> No better way to translate it 20180715 21:35:35<+discordbot1> unless you wanna go with poopoobags 20180715 21:35:52<+discordbot1> I just didn't know it meant the same as crap as i've only used it for shit 20180715 21:35:53<+discordbot1> ๐Ÿ˜„ 20180715 21:37:41<+discordbot1> So it's not really on the same level as 'shit'? 20180715 21:38:45<+discordbot1> Crap and shit are the same thing in Estonian really 20180715 21:39:11<+discordbot1> No point in really messaging them about it 20180715 21:39:19<+discordbot1> I can't think of another way to translate it into Estonian 20180715 21:39:40<+discordbot1> wghat is it in english? 20180715 21:40:02<+discordbot1> the line on the screenshot 20180715 21:40:09< Ravana_> "Oh, so itโ€™s another group oโ€™ stinkinโ€™ orcs, eh. Begone, or we shall wash our " "axes in yer blood." 20180715 21:42:39<+discordbot1> In Estonian it's "Uhh, another bunch of those orc crapbags/shitbags. Get lost or we'll dip our axes in your blood." 20180715 21:43:04<+discordbot1> that is a very creative approach to just "stinking" 20180715 21:43:05<+discordbot1> Only half this campaign is translated into Estonian aswell so i'm guessing it's a WIP 20180715 21:49:19-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20180715 21:56:05<+discordbot1> Under the burning suns seems cool so far 20180715 22:15:34<+discordbot1> its great 20180715 22:20:50<+discordbot1> Yepp 20180715 22:21:09<+discordbot1> I liked the end 20180715 22:54:59-!- Appleman1234 [~quassel@1.120.98.249] has joined #wesnoth 20180715 23:05:51-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180715 23:19:45<+discordbot1> wataf 20180715 23:19:48<+discordbot1> watafak 20180715 23:19:49<+discordbot1> garak has 1000 lp 20180715 23:19:52<+discordbot1> kp* 20180715 23:21:59-!- louis94 [~~louis94@91.178.69.90] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180715 23:22:27-!- louis94 [~~louis94@91.178.69.90] has joined #wesnoth 20180715 23:34:10<+discordbot1> hp? --- Log closed Mon Jul 16 00:00:36 2018