--- Log opened Fri Aug 10 00:00:56 2018 20180810 00:01:03< celticminstrel> Elvish_Hunter: Is there a version of the "recognize" directive that recognizes it only for the current line? 20180810 00:38:17< celticminstrel> ...glarb, why is this button not showing a label. 20180810 00:38:23< celticminstrel> What's the key for the label? 20180810 00:41:04-!- gfgtdf [~gfgtdf@134.76.63.8] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180810 00:41:54-!- gfgtdf [~gfgtdf@134.76.63.8] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180810 00:52:39<+wesdiscordbot> label? 20180810 00:53:20-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180810 00:59:35-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20180810 01:20:18< celticminstrel> ...why didn't that work then... 20180810 01:20:33< celticminstrel> Well, whatever. 20180810 01:55:57< celticminstrel> @Vultraz how do I make a [label] wrap 20180810 01:58:53< celticminstrel> Never mind, I found it. 20180810 02:05:19-!- gfgtdf [~gfgtdf@134.76.63.8] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20180810 02:23:57< celticminstrel> Can't seem to get the size lock to work. 20180810 02:24:16< celticminstrel> It's throwing "failed to place a grid" for what I assume is either the size lock or its content. 20180810 02:25:34< celticminstrel> Says "we have 600,0 space but need 5xx,xx space" 20180810 02:25:54< celticminstrel> I thought setting width or height to 0 was supposed to allow locking only one dimension? 20180810 02:49:49-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Quit: And lo! The computer falls into a deep sleep, to awake again some other day!] 20180810 02:55:05-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180810 02:55:11-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180810 03:52:05-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180810 03:52:11-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180810 04:26:54-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180810 04:27:00-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180810 04:52:58<+wesdiscordbot> I thought so too 20180810 04:53:10<+wesdiscordbot> Maybe you got the argument order wrong 20180810 05:12:35<+wesdiscordbot> The size you configure for a size_lock is the size it requests. 20180810 05:13:06<+wesdiscordbot> The way it can grow larger than the requested size is that the containing grid may have space left over and decide to give it to the size_lock. 20180810 05:28:50-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180810 05:28:56-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180810 05:52:44-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180810 05:52:50-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180810 07:07:55-!- valdar [~atarocch@37.177.95.103] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180810 07:23:38-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180810 08:05:57-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180810 08:06:03-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180810 09:04:21-!- valdar [~atarocch@37.177.95.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20180810 09:18:12-!- valdar [~atarocch@109.112.87.249] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180810 09:59:18-!- louis94 [~~louis94@109.49-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180810 10:06:04< Soliton> @shadowm: i don't see the recommended_version as a necessity, whoever put the version messages in did. i just find it weird that recommended_version is used in one message and not the other. 20180810 10:06:39<+wesdiscordbot> Oh oops. I forgot to update the server. I've been busy. 20180810 10:13:09< Soliton> also the one message that already uses recommended_version will look weird if it is not set. 20180810 10:18:25-!- gfgtdf [~gfgtdf@134.76.63.8] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180810 10:19:20< gfgtdf> Soliton: the message that uses recommende_version will not be shown if its is not set as in that the the condition player_version < recommended_version is never true. 20180810 10:20:29< gfgtdf> 'recommended_version' is basicially the current latest version, and to inform players that dont check the forum often about new updates. 20180810 10:21:59< Soliton> is supposed to be perhaps. currently it isn't set at all. 20180810 10:24:56< gfgtdf> yes because it's new, and currently there is little point in setting it as people with older clients will already see the other message which also imples that 1.14.4 is out. the idea was more to use it later, for example when 1.14.5 comes out. 20180810 10:26:40< gfgtdf> (and i put it in now so that we dont need a server restrart then) 20180810 10:33:06< Elvish_Hunter> celticminstrel: you can use "# wmllint: ignore", if that's needed for just a single line. 20180810 10:50:48-!- louis94 [~~louis94@109.49-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20180810 11:03:15<+wesdiscordbot> You can sort out this stuff in the meantime because I'm not planning to have a go at updating the server again until 4 am UTC. 20180810 11:21:35-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180810 11:21:41-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180810 11:30:19<+wesdiscordbot> There is macOS specific warning: Fontconfig warning: "./fonts.conf", line 146: blank doesn't take any effect anymore. please remove it from your fonts.conf Caused by: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/blob/1.14/projectfiles/Xcode/Resources/fonts.conf#L146 Why we even have separated fonts.conf for macOS builds? When I remove this fonts.conf everything works fine same as before. 20180810 11:30:38<+wesdiscordbot> @mattsc ^^ (You commited this file back in 2014) 20180810 11:31:48<+wesdiscordbot> commit: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/1945c1f4926780d217104d736ad855e5bed02170 20180810 12:21:13-!- valdar [~atarocch@109.112.87.249] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20180810 12:29:27-!- gfgtdf [~gfgtdf@134.76.63.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20180810 12:33:59-!- valdar [~atarocch@109.112.19.91] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180810 12:37:32-!- travis-ci [~travis-ci@ec2-54-81-122-147.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180810 12:37:33< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#19107 (1.14 - d30e245 : Martin Hrubý (hrubymar10)): The build has errored. 20180810 12:37:33< travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/414471128 20180810 12:37:34-!- travis-ci [~travis-ci@ec2-54-81-122-147.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has left #wesnoth-dev [] 20180810 13:24:47<+wesdiscordbot> @hrubymar10 I do not remember why I added this file (quite possibly I copied it from some other configuration somewhere). If it works without and fixes that message, go ahead and remove it. 20180810 13:25:48<+wesdiscordbot> Ok 20180810 13:33:05<+wesdiscordbot> @zookeeper I am currently making a list of AI related tasks for 1.15. Do you have an opinion on whether anything should be done about the ai_controller that's used in some mainline scenarios? Remove (at least from the scenarios), improve, leave as is ...? 20180810 13:33:27<+wesdiscordbot> It works so-so, but its effects are pretty subtle and often misunderstood. 20180810 13:33:48<+wesdiscordbot> See, for example, https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/issues/3066 20180810 13:38:26< zookeeper> @mattsc i'm leaning towards "remove". although, it'd be wonderful if the ally AI in those scenarios could be substantially improved at the same time, since the AI controller was originally conceived to alleviate frustration WRT ally AI behavior. 20180810 13:40:16<+wesdiscordbot> Yeah; I agree with both parts. The latter is of course non-trivial, but I can have a look at what could be done with reasonable effort. 20180810 13:41:40<+wesdiscordbot> Looks like it's used in roughly 2 dozen scenarios. Phew. 20180810 13:45:08< zookeeper> in principle i wouldn't be opposed to keeping it if it was simply used better per-scenario (it is very customizable, after all), but eh... 20180810 13:45:54<+wesdiscordbot> Hmm ... 20180810 13:50:47< zookeeper> i mean, you can basically completely (re)define the options and their effects per-scenario, but i'm enough of a traditionalist to find it a bit iffy to have per-scenario right-click menus. 20180810 13:52:57<+wesdiscordbot> Yeah, I understand. I was hmm-ing about how to do this in a way that actually makes sense for a given scenario. 20180810 13:53:05<+wesdiscordbot> Not the mechanics of it, but the AI functionality. 20180810 14:13:22-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180810 14:13:29-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180810 14:27:16-!- travis-ci [~travis-ci@ec2-54-81-122-147.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180810 14:27:17< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#19109 (1.14 - f24bd96 : mattsc): The build has errored. 20180810 14:27:17< travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/414532281 20180810 14:27:17-!- travis-ci [~travis-ci@ec2-54-81-122-147.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has left #wesnoth-dev [] 20180810 15:13:24-!- ToBeCloud [uid51591@wikimedia/ToBeFree] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180810 15:46:53-!- DeFender1031 [~DeFender1@dsl217-132-3-156.bb.netvision.net.il] has quit [Quit: I'm not back now.] 20180810 16:17:58-!- iwaim__ [~iwaim@rasteenie.alib.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20180810 16:22:42-!- iwaim [~iwaim@rasteenie.alib.jp] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180810 16:31:52<+wesdiscordbot> I have problem: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/blob/1.14/src/desktop/version.cpp#L137-L141 version is parsed correctly every time but build for some reason fails. But fails only while is not attached to debugger. If I have debugger attached, then everything works 20180810 16:33:17< Soliton> how can you attach a debugger if the build fails? do you mean you get some error at runtime? 20180810 16:33:52<+wesdiscordbot> "build" is the name of a variable. 20180810 16:34:15<+wesdiscordbot> (You can't see the formatting in IRC. In Discord it's marked as code.) 20180810 16:34:34< Soliton> ah, i see. 20180810 16:34:57<+wesdiscordbot> Yes, I get error in runtime 20180810 16:35:51< Soliton> what's the error? 20180810 16:38:10<+wesdiscordbot> I'll be talking about these 5 lines: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/blob/1.14/src/desktop/version.cpp#L137-L141 20180810 16:38:44<+wesdiscordbot> scoped_posix_pipe p_version is parsed - no problem 20180810 16:39:03<+wesdiscordbot> const std::string& version is assigned with version number - no problem 20180810 16:39:40<+wesdiscordbot> If I have debugger attached I can step by step check that: 20180810 16:39:51<+wesdiscordbot> scoped_posix_pipe p_build is also parsed - no problem 20180810 16:40:12<+wesdiscordbot> and const std::string& build is also assigned - no problem 20180810 16:41:17<+wesdiscordbot> but if I have breakpoint bellow const std::string& build and run this code again, then const std::string& version is assigned (no problem) but const std::string& build is empty for some reson 20180810 16:41:26<+wesdiscordbot> *reason 20180810 16:41:48<+wesdiscordbot> Do you get me? Is it understandable? 😄 20180810 16:42:26<+wesdiscordbot> You could try changing the const std::string& to const std::string. 20180810 16:42:55<+wesdiscordbot> I think it shouldn't happen in this case, but it might be that the returned string is freed somewhere. 20180810 16:44:14<+wesdiscordbot> same 😦 const std::string& vs const std::string has same behaviour in this case 20180810 16:45:05-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180810 16:45:26<+wesdiscordbot> In any case: you have debugger attached regardless of if you're single-stepping or not. 20180810 16:45:36< Soliton> so you're saying normally version and build get assigned correctly but not when attached to a debugger? 20180810 16:45:49<+wesdiscordbot> The behavior you're getting sounds like a race condition. The code is failing if it runs too fast. 20180810 16:46:29<+wesdiscordbot> yes 20180810 16:46:57-!- iwaim [~iwaim@rasteenie.alib.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20180810 16:47:19-!- iwaim_ [~iwaim@rasteenie.alib.jp] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180810 16:47:26<+wesdiscordbot> Soliton: no, vice versa @jyrkive : yes, this idea with race condition semms to be right 20180810 16:49:13< Soliton> perhaps break in read_pipe_line() and see what happens in there. 20180810 16:49:27< Soliton> maybe it gets EOF when trying to read too early. 20180810 16:49:44-!- travis-ci [~travis-ci@ec2-54-162-117-7.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180810 16:49:45< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#19110 (1.14 - fc7c006 : Martin Hrubý (hrubymar10)): The build has errored. 20180810 16:49:45< travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/414593714 20180810 16:49:45-!- travis-ci [~travis-ci@ec2-54-162-117-7.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has left #wesnoth-dev [] 20180810 16:49:53< Soliton> sounds odd though. 20180810 16:50:21<+wesdiscordbot> Maybe the problem is caused by trying to spawn two subshells in rapid succession or something like that. 20180810 16:50:54< Soliton> it seems that way but that sounds like a bug in the OS somewhere then. 20180810 16:51:08< Soliton> certainly possible of course. 20180810 16:51:15<+wesdiscordbot> Workaround: usleep(1000); between version and build 20180810 16:51:31<+wesdiscordbot> That's a terrible workaround. 20180810 16:51:44<+wesdiscordbot> It would be better to find out some other way to query the OS version. 20180810 16:52:03<+wesdiscordbot> Spawning subshells for ordinary tasks is a huge antipattern anyway. 20180810 16:52:35< Soliton> yeah, that's unlikely to be the recommended way. 20180810 16:53:00-!- boucman [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180810 16:54:31<+wesdiscordbot> I was thinking about it already. I have to options: 1) Add native .mm (Objective-C) source for obtaining OS version 2) Add plistcpp dependency for reading content of SystemVersion.plist 20180810 16:55:00<+wesdiscordbot> Option 1 sounds good. (And option 2 sounds bad.) 20180810 16:55:44<+wesdiscordbot> Ok, I'll create PR for option one 20180810 16:55:45< Soliton> there's already objective-c for macs anyway, right? 20180810 16:56:01<+wesdiscordbot> yes 20180810 16:56:04<+wesdiscordbot> but for other parts of src 20180810 16:56:10<+wesdiscordbot> for example notifications 20180810 16:56:15<+wesdiscordbot> or SDLMain 20180810 16:57:20-!- iwaim_ [~iwaim@rasteenie.alib.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20180810 16:58:38-!- iwaim_ [~iwaim@rasteenie.alib.jp] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180810 17:18:34-!- travis-ci [~travis-ci@ec2-184-73-70-222.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180810 17:18:35< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#19110 (1.14 - fc7c006 : Martin Hrubý (hrubymar10)): The build passed. 20180810 17:18:35< travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/414593714 20180810 17:18:35-!- travis-ci [~travis-ci@ec2-184-73-70-222.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has left #wesnoth-dev [] 20180810 17:32:43-!- iwaim_ [~iwaim@rasteenie.alib.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20180810 17:56:21-!- iwaim_ [~iwaim@rasteenie.alib.jp] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180810 18:49:22-!- iwaim_ [~iwaim@rasteenie.alib.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180810 18:50:42-!- iwaim [~iwaim@rasteenie.alib.jp] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180810 18:50:50-!- iwaim [~iwaim@rasteenie.alib.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180810 18:52:21-!- iwaim_ [~iwaim@rasteenie.alib.jp] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180810 18:57:54-!- iwaim_ [~iwaim@rasteenie.alib.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180810 18:59:17-!- iwaim [~iwaim@rasteenie.alib.jp] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180810 19:08:41-!- travis-ci [~travis-ci@ec2-184-73-70-222.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180810 19:08:42< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#19113 (1.14 - 83cf6ce : Martin Hrubý (hrubymar10)): The build has errored. 20180810 19:08:42< travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/414636306 20180810 19:08:42-!- travis-ci [~travis-ci@ec2-184-73-70-222.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has left #wesnoth-dev [] 20180810 19:16:16<+wesdiscordbot> I'll repost idea from my PR here: I used desktop:🍎:os_version() namespace. It may be nice to rework rest of platform specific code to use this namespace style (not only os_version, but also notifications, ...) 20180810 19:18:27-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20180810 19:18:31-!- stikonas_ [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180810 19:21:06<+wesdiscordbot> @mattsc the fast mai fix should go into master as well, I think, right? 20180810 19:26:06<+wesdiscordbot> @Pentarctagon Yes, I'll cherry-pick it to master later. It also needs a changelog entry. 20180810 19:31:01-!- travis-ci [~travis-ci@ec2-184-73-70-222.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180810 19:31:02< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#19114 (master - 8114ec2 : Martin Hrubý (hrubymar10)): The build has errored. 20180810 19:31:02< travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/414636481 20180810 19:31:02-!- travis-ci [~travis-ci@ec2-184-73-70-222.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has left #wesnoth-dev [] 20180810 19:31:33-!- sevu [~sevu@p548551F3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180810 19:50:33< sevu> wedge009, for the & things, the AE english textes don't use them in translatable strings, though there are one or two cases in the credits. In German I used & I thought you yould do that for the BE textes too 20180810 19:51:01< sevu> (You maintain the BE translation, right?) 20180810 20:22:46<+wesdiscordbot> Is the gold icon supposed to be this pixelated? 20180810 20:22:51<+wesdiscordbot> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/259976436490829825/477572557370032138/pixelated.png 20180810 20:23:31<+wesdiscordbot> looks scaled up, and the bottom coin slightly cut off 20180810 20:28:50<+wesdiscordbot> the original image is 16x16 px so yes, probably scaled up 20180810 20:32:05-!- stikonas_ [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180810 20:34:49-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180810 20:42:16-!- sevu [~sevu@p548551F3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180810 20:56:53-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180810 20:56:59-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180810 21:14:58-!- iwaim [~iwaim@rasteenie.alib.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20180810 21:22:08-!- iwaim [~iwaim@rasteenie.alib.jp] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180810 21:47:03-!- louis94 [~~louis94@109.49-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180810 22:07:25-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20180810 22:28:19< wedge009> @sevu Does it make sense to do this? Leave original cfg text as & but use & in translated string? 20180810 22:28:41< wedge009> I just want to be sure this is what you intended before I go changing anything. 20180810 22:29:10< wedge009> Oh, he's not here... 20180810 22:42:18-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180810 22:42:24-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180810 22:46:03-!- boucman [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180810 22:54:21-!- louis94 [~~louis94@109.49-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20180810 23:18:03-!- sevu [~sevu@p548551F3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180810 23:21:27< sevu> wedge009, the one I am talking about has + in AE https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/blob/master/po/wesnoth-multiplayer/en_GB.po#L2094 20180810 23:21:35-!- valdar [~atarocch@109.112.19.91] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20180810 23:22:37< sevu> Though, there seems to be no deep reason between using + or & https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/3ec26df495e0c568fb2e1536e0c7356f29738f81 I'm open to change it from + to & as well, should just be written as & then 20180810 23:22:46< wedge009> Oh, I don't think I did that one. Are there any cases where raw & is used in the original text? 20180810 23:23:05< wedge009> And if so, does that cause a problem? 20180810 23:23:57< sevu> All it does is printing a warning to stderr if one uses '&' 20180810 23:24:10< sevu> & avoids the warning 20180810 23:24:13< janebot> sevu: No. 20180810 23:24:20< sevu> huh? 20180810 23:24:28-!- louis94 [~~louis94@109.49-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180810 23:25:07< wedge009> Ah, okay. Thanks, I'll look for ampersands in en_GB and update to ivanovic later. 20180810 23:25:14< wedge009> And what does janebot do? 20180810 23:26:12< sevu> okay, thanks. Any opinion if it should be + or & in the original text? It seems matthiaskrgr just changed it because we didn'z know at that time that one can wourk around it with & too 20180810 23:26:58< sevu> (And no idea what janebot dose. It used to announce twitter or reddit threads usually) 20180810 23:27:30< wedge009> Seems funny that it should refute you. 20180810 23:27:45< wedge009> Personally I think & reads better. 20180810 23:29:01<+wesdiscordbot> janebot's command prefix is &. 20180810 23:29:28< wedge009> Ah, that makes sense. 20180810 23:29:50< sevu> Ahh, it it says no if you type an invalid command? 20180810 23:30:57<+wesdiscordbot> I think it eventually started doing it for all commands after Gambit messed with the api or something. 20180810 23:32:50< sevu> "1 & 4" or rather "1&4" ? 20180810 23:42:22-!- ToBeCloud [uid51591@wikimedia/ToBeFree] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 20180810 23:47:46< wedge009> @sevu I think it should be spaced (first one). 20180810 23:48:08< wedge009> The only other place I found a raw ampersand is https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/blob/1.14/data/gui/window/surrender_quit.cfg#L85 20180810 23:48:12< wedge009> It's the same in master. 20180810 23:48:34-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180810 23:48:56-!- gfgtdf [~chatzilla@x4dbb4145.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180810 23:49:19< gfgtdf> who is octalot on irc? 20180810 23:50:48< wedge009> I'm not even sure how to generate that dialogue. 20180810 23:51:44< sevu> In MP games one can quit or surrender and quit, since recently 20180810 23:52:09< wedge009> It must be with human opponents because I can't get it with human vs computer. 20180810 23:52:19< wedge009> Unless I'm looking in the wrong place. 20180810 23:53:18< sevu> I wanted to create a test game on the server, but… I get "Disconnected from Server" as soon as I open a game. (im MP staging) 20180810 23:53:33< gfgtdf> octalot: you edited the wiki to say that recruiting canot be undone, last time i checked this was wrong, particular most undead recruits can be undone, maybe you have tested soemthing wrongly liek for example played with fog so that the recruit uncovers fog ? 20180810 23:53:51< sevu> error network: caught network error: End of file 20180810 23:55:05< gfgtdf> wedge009: whether you should use & or the raw & depends on whether the widget that contains that text has markup enabled or not. 20180810 23:55:08-!- travis-ci [~travis-ci@ec2-54-162-117-7.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180810 23:55:09< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#19126 (master - 2226c4c : Martin Hrubý (hrubymar10)): The build has errored. 20180810 23:55:09< travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/414707483 20180810 23:55:09-!- travis-ci [~travis-ci@ec2-54-162-117-7.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has left #wesnoth-dev [] 20180810 23:55:10< wedge009> Steam build seems okay, but connection is very slow. I don't think I've seen it this slow before. 20180810 23:55:31< wedge009> So surrender dialogue doesn't have it enabled? How can one tell? 20180810 23:56:48< gfgtdf> you wither have to look at the code, or look at the dialogue, if the escapes & appears at escaped & in the dialogue it probably don't hame markup enabled 20180810 23:58:14-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180810 23:58:38< gfgtdf> sevu: did you retry ? 20180810 23:58:53< sevu> yes, a few times and just now 20180810 23:59:07< wedge009> Oh, it's a button. Buttons probably wouldn't use mark-up. --- Log closed Sat Aug 11 00:00:22 2018