--- Log opened Sat Aug 18 00:00:35 2018 20180818 00:24:11-!- Jordys [~Jordys@154.68.5.145] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20180818 00:24:18-!- Jordys [~Jordys@154.68.5.145] has quit [Client Quit] 20180818 02:20:58-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180818 02:21:09-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20180818 03:01:16-!- sevu [~sevu@p5485415E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180818 05:54:35-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180818 05:54:41-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20180818 07:05:30-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20180818 07:13:50-!- hk238 [~kvirc@unaffiliated/hk238] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20180818 07:13:51< hk238> hi 20180818 07:14:15<+wesdiscordbot> hello 20180818 08:19:49<+wesdiscordbot> I've been testing my add-on for a few days and now Wesnoth takes a long time to load, and also to reaload when I press F5. What could possibly be the reason? Savefiles are not huge. Is there a debug option which could help me understand what is going on? 20180818 08:22:52< vn971> skeptical_troll Usually it's just the add-ons I think? 20180818 08:23:15< vn971> Sometimes I have to hide Ageless when testing my add-on extensively... 20180818 08:23:44< vn971> & unhide it back when testing is finished... 20180818 08:23:46< janebot> vn971: No. 20180818 08:24:43< vn971> @janebot: OK I'm not sure it's _the_ problem that skeptical_troll has right now. But certainly Ageless slows things down if you have few add-ons besides it. And certainly hiding it makes the process measurably faster. 20180818 08:25:36< vn971> (It's not Ageless-es fault explicitly of course, it's just due to the fact that Ageless is one of the largest add-ons we have. Lots of WML to parse, resources to load...) 20180818 08:27:40<+wesdiscordbot> I don't have so many add-ons installed, it's 58 MB and at least 45 of those is music. The point is, I didn't install any new add-on in the past day 20180818 08:27:46<+wesdiscordbot> *days 20180818 08:28:14<+wesdiscordbot> I'm just wondering if I've done something stupid with my add-on the slows things down 20180818 08:29:20<+wesdiscordbot> it hangs while it says 'reading unit files' 20180818 08:30:30< vn971> skeptical_troll: if you want to test out the "too many add-ons" hypothesis, move all add-ons you have to a temp directory. Then load wesnoth and see how fast it works. If it helps, you can start adding add-ons back one-by-one. 20180818 08:31:54<+wesdiscordbot> vn971: Why did you tag janebot of all thigns? 20180818 08:32:47< vn971> shadowm: because I don't know what it is? I just replied to the username I see.. 20180818 08:34:01< vn971> Besides, people say that "@" does not work if it originates from IRC anyway, so I guess it was just an old habit that I did not forget yet. 20180818 08:34:23<+wesdiscordbot> Tried that and didn't work. Perhaps it was some preference I set. I guess I'll go for the good ol' uninstall and reinstall 20180818 08:37:07< vn971> skeptical_troll: wait, did you try to just use clean "preferences" first? It's certainly more straightforward. 20180818 08:37:25< vn971> For example, on Linux: wesnoth --userdata-dir .local/share/wesnoth/clean 20180818 08:38:14<+wesdiscordbot> vn971: janebot is a bot. 20180818 08:38:28<+wesdiscordbot> I don't know what it is you saw but it was not a human's message. It's not a relay bot either. 20180818 08:39:33< vn971> shadowm: I still don't know what it is, but it mentioned my name and said "no". I mentioned the username I saw to reply. That's about it.. 20180818 08:40:45< vn971> if IRC had replies to specific messages (instead of users), I'd use that. 20180818 08:43:27<+wesdiscordbot> @skeptical_troll Did you check the log? It might have something. 20180818 08:44:55<+wesdiscordbot> I'm reinstalling now, but I'll try that if I keep having troubles 20180818 08:46:12<+wesdiscordbot> also, I don't think uninstalling clears preferences, does it? since they haven't been kept in the install directory since a while. 20180818 08:46:43<+wesdiscordbot> Oh ok, then I have to use the command vn971 suggested, I suppose? 20180818 08:46:47<+wesdiscordbot> I'm on Ubuntu 20180818 08:46:53< vn971> @Pentarctagon Yup, at least on Linux. 20180818 08:47:22<+wesdiscordbot> vn971: ftr as well, that did ping me correctly 20180818 08:47:53<+wesdiscordbot> @skeptical_troll I don' 20180818 08:47:56<+wesdiscordbot> t know 20180818 08:48:14<+wesdiscordbot> I've only ever had preferences problems once, and I just went and manually deleted the file 20180818 08:48:54<+wesdiscordbot> you could also try clearing your cache 20180818 08:49:00<+wesdiscordbot> I don't know why that would matter 20180818 08:49:04<+wesdiscordbot> but it can't hurt either 20180818 08:49:44<+wesdiscordbot> also, final note: add-on size is not necessarily a good indicator of how much it can slow down Wesnoth loading 20180818 08:49:54<+wesdiscordbot> due to macro expansion and such 20180818 08:50:59<+wesdiscordbot> ah, right, perhaps there are macros abuse somewhere 20180818 08:51:14<+wesdiscordbot> where do I find the preference file, is not in the user data folder 20180818 08:51:56<+wesdiscordbot> from the main menu, there's the i icon in the lower left 20180818 08:52:11<+wesdiscordbot> open the userdata folder 20180818 08:52:23<+wesdiscordbot> then it's the preferences file there 20180818 08:52:36< vn971> skeptical_troll: ~/.local/share/wesnoth/1.14 ? 20180818 08:53:19<+wesdiscordbot> ok, the cache is 161 MB, sounds suspiciously high 20180818 08:53:31< vn971> mine is 95Mb. 20180818 08:53:52<+wesdiscordbot> or perhaps the Configuration folder 20180818 08:53:58<+wesdiscordbot> I have mine to both be the same place 20180818 08:54:33<+wesdiscordbot> mine is 2.7 MBs 😛 20180818 08:54:51<+wesdiscordbot> but I have barely any add-ons 20180818 08:57:03<+wesdiscordbot> ok, in my case the preference file is in ~/.config/wesnoth/ 20180818 08:59:16<+wesdiscordbot> alright, deleting the preference file did the job 😃 Thanks guys! 20180818 08:59:46<+wesdiscordbot> I probably changed the resolution and that killed it 20180818 09:17:39<+wesdiscordbot> vn971: Janebot says 'no' when people trigger it with a & prefix. 20180818 09:17:45<+wesdiscordbot> So yeah, sorry, you were fooled. 20180818 09:18:12< vn971> & say no 20180818 09:18:14< janebot> vn971: Of course! 20180818 09:18:21< vn971> & say yes 20180818 09:18:22< janebot> vn971: No. 20180818 09:18:35< vn971> lol. xD 20180818 09:19:10< vn971> & your next answer will be No 20180818 09:19:12< janebot> vn971: Okay... 20180818 09:20:25< vn971> & No 20180818 09:20:26< janebot> vn971: Are you disagreeing with me? The nerve of some humans! 20180818 09:22:50-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20180818 09:34:06-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20180818 10:25:36-!- gfgtdf [~chatzilla@x4dbb3624.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20180818 10:57:19-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180818 10:57:26-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20180818 12:13:34< hk238> vn :D 20180818 12:15:39< vn971> hk238: I still don't know what janebot does, but it's certainly good at trolling me.:D 20180818 12:20:48-!- hk238 [~kvirc@unaffiliated/hk238] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 5.0.0 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/] 20180818 13:06:20-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180818 13:06:26-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20180818 14:35:52-!- hk238 [~kvirc@unaffiliated/hk238] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20180818 14:35:53< hk238> hi 20180818 14:47:46<+wesdiscordbot> t 20180818 16:12:30-!- gfgtdf [~chatzilla@x4dbb3624.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20180818 16:17:39-!- sevu [~sevu@p54855F65.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20180818 16:18:41< sevu> vn971, I see his persisten variable: pickadvance_override_Colosseum_pSKolosseumMermanWarrior 20180818 16:19:04< sevu> somehow the »_pSKolosseum« part irritates me 20180818 16:22:36< sevu> hmm and the file is constantly edited or recreated while playing without the mod being active, but that does not happen for the ageless variables… maybe it's related to namespaces 20180818 16:32:27-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20180818 16:41:27< Ravana_> ageless variables are only written once per release 20180818 16:45:56< hk238> btw it would be an interesting new feature for wesnoth to have multicolored teams 20180818 16:46:29< hk238> so you could choose red,white and the unit images would have like two ranges for color, like pink and some other pink, if you choose solid color, then they both are the same 20180818 16:46:46< hk238> just a thought not that important 20180818 16:46:46< hk238> :D 20180818 16:54:56<+wesdiscordbot> That would be highly complicated to implement given that team colour in images is free-form. 20180818 16:55:23<+wesdiscordbot> As in the team colour pixels are defined by the image's pixel map itself and not procedurally. 20180818 17:10:51< hk238> yes I meant that you could designate another range of colors for the pixel maps that would interpreted as a team colour or 2nd team colouor 20180818 17:11:08< hk238> of course it wouldn't change pre-existing imagefiles 20180818 17:13:22-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20180818 18:29:24< hk238> :o 20180818 18:36:34<+wesdiscordbot> & Hi! 20180818 18:36:56<+wesdiscordbot> janebot off? 😮 20180818 18:39:00<+wesdiscordbot> Doesn't work from Discord because the bridge bot prefixes every message with your username. 20180818 19:26:41-!- hk238 [~kvirc@unaffiliated/hk238] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 5.0.0 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/] 20180818 19:57:27-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180818 19:57:33-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20180818 20:47:29-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180818 20:47:35-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20180818 20:56:05-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20180818 22:59:39-!- Ravana_ [~Ravana@unaffiliated/ravana/x-2327071] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20180818 23:00:01-!- sevu [~sevu@p54855F65.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180818 23:04:50-!- Ravana_ [~Ravana@unaffiliated/ravana/x-2327071] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20180818 23:49:29<+wesdiscordbot> Ah --- Log closed Sun Aug 19 00:00:36 2018