--- Log opened Sat Aug 18 00:00:35 2018 20180818 00:01:42-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has joined #wesnoth 20180818 00:49:17-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180818 02:20:58-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180818 02:21:09-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20180818 02:53:13-!- TC01 [~quassel@venus.arosser.com] has joined #wesnoth 20180818 03:01:16-!- sevu [~sevu@p5485415E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180818 04:49:21-!- HeyCitizen [HeyCitizen@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/heycitizen] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20180818 04:49:39-!- HeyCitizen [HeyCitizen@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/heycitizen] has joined #wesnoth 20180818 05:37:09< janebot> wesnoth: Good times with the name generator (by /u/busrf) https://redd.it/989ejl 20180818 05:37:17-!- HeyCitizen_ [~HeyCitize@sttrpq3809w-lp130-05-69-156-204-156.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #wesnoth 20180818 05:39:14-!- HeyCitiz- [HeyCitizen@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/heycitizen] has joined #wesnoth 20180818 05:39:34-!- HeyCitizen [HeyCitizen@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/heycitizen] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20180818 05:41:35-!- HeyCitizen_ [~HeyCitize@sttrpq3809w-lp130-05-69-156-204-156.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20180818 05:54:35-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180818 05:54:41-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20180818 06:33:30-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Quit: And lo! The computer falls into a deep sleep, to awake again some other day!] 20180818 07:05:30-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20180818 08:00:30-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has joined #wesnoth 20180818 09:22:50-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20180818 09:34:06-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20180818 10:37:08-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 20180818 10:50:50-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has joined #wesnoth 20180818 10:57:19-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180818 10:57:26-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20180818 11:01:20-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz…] 20180818 14:01:15-!- Slacer [~user@251.red-83-34-69.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has joined #wesnoth 20180818 14:11:28-!- Slacer [~user@251.red-83-34-69.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180818 14:25:44-!- mthe878 [~mthe@unaffiliated/mthe] has joined #wesnoth 20180818 14:27:42-!- mthe878 [~mthe@unaffiliated/mthe] has quit [Client Quit] 20180818 14:28:56-!- mthe878 [~mthe@unaffiliated/mthe] has joined #wesnoth 20180818 14:37:43-!- mthe878 [~mthe@unaffiliated/mthe] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180818 15:12:37-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has joined #wesnoth 20180818 15:35:55-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 20180818 15:47:20-!- claymore [~claymore@unaffiliated/claymore] has joined #wesnoth 20180818 15:48:18-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has joined #wesnoth 20180818 16:01:50<+wesdiscordbot> I love this game, but I don't have the time to play for 2+ hours. Does anyone know of a mod that might cut down on game time? 20180818 16:02:49< celticminstrel> Are you playing MP or SP? 20180818 16:03:47< celticminstrel> If you're playing MP, I figure maybe decreasing the XP modifier to make units level up faster might also make games go fast (but maybe not, it's hard to say). 20180818 16:04:24<+wesdiscordbot> I'm playing on MP. 20180818 16:08:10< celticminstrel> Only other thing I could say is try to pick smaller maps, but I dunno, that might get boring if you're always on the same map. 20180818 16:08:19< celticminstrel> Maybe there's something else I haven't thought of though. 20180818 16:08:33< loonycyborg> matches on simple 1vs1 maps like hamlets will take less than 2 hours 20180818 16:08:51< celticminstrel> You could also try the Age of Heroes era where you recruit level 2 units. I dunno what that'll do to play time though. 20180818 16:09:02< celticminstrel> (It's also less balanced.) 20180818 16:09:22< celticminstrel> (Since the balance is designed under the assumption that L2 units are rare.) 20180818 16:10:47<+wesdiscordbot> Hrm. I've pretty much always been sticking to maps that are less than 30x30 lately. 20180818 16:12:45<+wesdiscordbot> there's also always Isars Cross 20180818 16:15:48< Ravana_> afterlife is designed to be less than 30 min 20180818 16:17:39-!- sevu [~sevu@p54855F65.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20180818 16:32:27-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20180818 16:33:07<+wesdiscordbot> You can try to play worse, that way it will be faster :p 20180818 16:36:52-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 20180818 16:36:52<+wesdiscordbot> :thonk: 20180818 16:38:54<+wesdiscordbot> But make sure that your enemy is better than you, because if not, that wil prolong the game instead. 20180818 16:58:06<+wesdiscordbot> Royal Rumble 😉 20180818 17:08:13<+wesdiscordbot> https://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=116478#p116478 20180818 17:13:22-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20180818 17:28:53<+wesdiscordbot> 2005 o.O 20180818 17:42:11< celticminstrel> So apparently my campaign is finally on units.wesnoth.org/1.14 20180818 18:15:30<+wesdiscordbot> Who knew a Rumble could be so royal 20180818 18:25:28< celticminstrel> ? 20180818 18:33:23<+wesdiscordbot> It just seems like this game encourages turtling. 20180818 18:48:00<+wesdiscordbot> try playing as Northerners 20180818 18:48:34<+wesdiscordbot> if you favor the more aggressive playstyle 20180818 18:51:15<+wesdiscordbot> Rebels are the opposite with their mixed fighters 20180818 18:54:16-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180818 18:57:02<+wesdiscordbot> Seconded. The Rebels are more... Positional. 20180818 18:57:52<+wesdiscordbot> mixed fighters with high defense, it's like you're just begging for someone to come attack you first 20180818 18:58:23<+wesdiscordbot> Precisely. 20180818 18:59:11<+wesdiscordbot> But most of the time, if someone attacks you first, you at least (usually) have a positional advantage. 20180818 19:00:56<+wesdiscordbot> well, yeah obviously, unless you ran into an ambush :run: 🌳 20180818 19:02:53<+wesdiscordbot> Haha, You play on fog and then position your forces in an "unbreakable" line and then the enemies just come around you and hit you in the rear 😶 20180818 19:04:43<+wesdiscordbot> I will never forget the time I spread my troops out evenly to both flanks then the leader died to a gryphon rush up the middle :bowman: 20180818 19:05:45<+wesdiscordbot> I really got trolled on that one 20180818 19:05:54<+wesdiscordbot> I wouldn't say trolled. 20180818 19:06:55<+wesdiscordbot> You neglected the center, right? Mostly? 20180818 19:07:17<+wesdiscordbot> yeah, if I recall correctly 20180818 19:07:53<+wesdiscordbot> People don't do flanks every battle. What faction were you fighting? 20180818 19:08:40<+wesdiscordbot> (in case you are wondering why I didn't say Knalgans are the most defensive, consider gryphons, thieves, and ulfserkers.) 20180818 19:10:04<+wesdiscordbot> I mean, them dwarves are mostly defensive. The gryphons are mostly scouts, so I wouldn't consider them offensive. Thieves are really good for flanking, so I would say their very good at supporting, and ulfserkers, IMHO, are time-buyeres. 20180818 19:10:11<+wesdiscordbot> Wait not buyerers 20180818 19:10:17<+wesdiscordbot> I mean "buyers" 20180818 19:11:37<+wesdiscordbot> Acctualy rebels are most deffensive fraction. Pads i think are mutch better scouts. And ulfs are ultimate offensive power, kill important unit? Ulf it. Unit on vill ulf it. 😄 20180818 19:13:01<+wesdiscordbot> I don't remember what my faction was on that matchup but it was Freelands and my opponent was Knalgans obviously 20180818 19:13:55<+wesdiscordbot> I don't know. When I fight with the dwarves I fight like the Romans, who were extremely defensive. I use the rebels for... Fast strikes. Like hit-and-run. They are similar to the loyalists but with better movement. 20180818 19:15:23<+wesdiscordbot> You know, 40% on flat, 50% on hills, 60% on mountains, 60% to 70% in forests, but terrible in caves... But I still like loyalists because of their mounted power. Charge, specifically. 20180818 19:15:46<+wesdiscordbot> And weaker ability to kill units fast. 7-3 > 5-4 20180818 19:16:03<+wesdiscordbot> well, one of the nice thing about Knalgans is you can have various decent playstyles with them. like Hodor, or if you favor defense then the steadfast ability 20180818 19:16:52<+wesdiscordbot> Horse is considered to be quite good unit. Cavs were nerfed i think 2 or 3 times alreday and i love then still. 20180818 19:17:28<+wesdiscordbot> Wouldn't say the same. Knalgans are too slow and have terrible terrain defence to me. 30% almost everywhere and the only decent terrain they have is on mountains and caves. 20180818 19:17:52<+wesdiscordbot> But mountains and caves are not everywhere, so that's why I try to avoid using the knalgans if possible. 20180818 19:18:20<+wesdiscordbot> :thonk: 20180818 19:19:30<+wesdiscordbot> "When I fight with the dwarves I fight extremely defensive" vs "Knalgans have terrible terrain defence " 20180818 19:19:34< celticminstrel> And now I have updated my campaign again. 20180818 19:19:47<+wesdiscordbot> I do not like them to. Too hard for me to play pure dwarf. And guards are not very good unit to be hones. But they realy do not lack early - mid game offensive power. 20180818 19:20:23<+wesdiscordbot> @sapient_n3t Srsly. 😂 20180818 19:20:47<+wesdiscordbot> Sorry i just had to do that. 20180818 19:21:19<+wesdiscordbot> I mean, just the fact that you used both spellings of defense in itself is impressive 20180818 19:21:42<+wesdiscordbot> It's almost as if someone else took the keyboard there 20180818 19:24:53<+wesdiscordbot> I am 20180818 19:25:13<+wesdiscordbot> i am a taker of keyboards 20180818 19:25:34<+wesdiscordbot> Good luck with mine 😂 20180818 19:25:47<+wesdiscordbot> i will not touch that thing until you clean it 20180818 19:25:54<+wesdiscordbot> you people need to practice regular keyboard maintenance 20180818 19:26:23<+wesdiscordbot> Hey not it! She. She grows preety nicely. 20180818 19:26:45<+wesdiscordbot> I think soon she will start to walk on her own. 20180818 19:27:48< celticminstrel> XD 20180818 19:45:05-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at] has joined #wesnoth 20180818 19:57:27-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180818 19:57:33-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20180818 20:24:31-!- claymore_ [~claymore@unaffiliated/claymore] has joined #wesnoth 20180818 20:27:12-!- claymore [~claymore@unaffiliated/claymore] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20180818 20:36:27-!- celmin [~celticmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has joined #wesnoth 20180818 20:47:29-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180818 20:47:35-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20180818 20:52:08<+wesdiscordbot> I had tried a few rushes with Loyalists. The horsemen can be pretty brutal and I've ended games quickly with them. Though they are limited by their 1 damage type. Dunefolk have an interesting rush, with a few horses to cover range, a 20 dmg unit, and a leader to rush in with skirmisher. Drakes can be tricky, but I've had sone success with a few saurian skirnishers and drake burners - along with a fire drake rushing in. 20180818 20:56:05-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20180818 21:05:12-!- aeth [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20180818 21:06:54-!- aeth [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has joined #wesnoth 20180818 21:21:40-!- TC01 [~quassel@venus.arosser.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20180818 21:26:35<+wesdiscordbot> Lol sounds like the fights I had with j master!! xD 20180818 21:27:02<+wesdiscordbot> He rushed like 6 sword marksmen with the healer leader and somehow won xD 20180818 21:27:14<+wesdiscordbot> Also killed my leader with two horsemen by luck ;( 20180818 21:35:17<+wesdiscordbot> having marksman on level 1 units is pretty powerful 20180818 21:35:37<+wesdiscordbot> but then again loyalist have magical mages 20180818 21:35:38<+wesdiscordbot> so 20180818 21:36:37<+wesdiscordbot> What is mage when you can have spear. 20180818 21:37:07< celmin> Doesn't assasin also have marksman 20180818 21:37:11< celmin> ^assassin 20180818 21:37:28<+wesdiscordbot> yeah 20180818 21:37:29<+wesdiscordbot> What is assasin when you can have grunt 20180818 21:37:34<+wesdiscordbot> as soon as i made the comment i realized 20180818 21:45:32-!- claymore_ [~claymore@unaffiliated/claymore] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20180818 22:09:54-!- TC01 [~quassel@venus.arosser.com] has joined #wesnoth 20180818 22:28:27<+wesdiscordbot> @Crimson_Conure That's because I am J_MASTER. 20180818 22:29:52<+wesdiscordbot> Lol so funny (no worries! I mean in a good way) xD 20180818 22:36:29-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has joined #wesnoth 20180818 22:42:50-!- ToBeCloud [uid51591@wikimedia/ToBeFree] has joined #wesnoth 20180818 22:59:39-!- Ravana_ [~Ravana@unaffiliated/ravana/x-2327071] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20180818 23:00:01-!- sevu [~sevu@p54855F65.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180818 23:00:46-!- Haldrik [~Haldrik@unaffiliated/haldrik] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180818 23:04:50-!- Ravana_ [~Ravana@unaffiliated/ravana/x-2327071] has joined #wesnoth 20180818 23:19:24<+wesdiscordbot> Err... 20180818 23:19:38<+wesdiscordbot> Yes. So funny. I have no idea where this conversation is going. 20180818 23:19:47< celmin> ??? 20180818 23:19:57< celmin> …wait didn't I see that username on Steam... 20180818 23:20:05<+wesdiscordbot> Who, me? 20180818 23:20:09< celmin> Yeah 20180818 23:20:18<+wesdiscordbot> I'm on Debian. 20180818 23:20:36< celmin> Oh wait it's the forums. That's where I saw it. 20180818 23:20:42<+wesdiscordbot> Yes. 20180818 23:20:54< celmin> You're the one who's perhaps a little overly cautious about fixing things that work. ;p 20180818 23:21:02< celmin> Though being cautious about that isn't a bad thing. 20180818 23:21:11<+wesdiscordbot> Is that an insult? 20180818 23:21:14<+wesdiscordbot> No, it wasn't. 20180818 23:21:15< celmin> A lot of people aren't cautious enough about that. 20180818 23:21:23<+wesdiscordbot> No offense taken 20180818 23:21:33< celmin> I don't know if it's an insult or not. I guess it could be a very mild one. 20180818 23:21:48< celmin> I didn't mean to insult you. 20180818 23:21:59<+wesdiscordbot> And what do you mean by "fixing things that work"? By the way. 20180818 23:22:16< celmin> That thing with the custom tag implemented in Lua. 20180818 23:22:40<+wesdiscordbot> You mean my Random Unit Dialogue post? 20180818 23:22:45< celmin> Think so 20180818 23:23:51<+wesdiscordbot> Lemme see what was so fixing things that work; I still don't really understand. 20180818 23:24:19< celmin> Something about a macro? 20180818 23:24:27< celmin> And performance? 20180818 23:24:42< celmin> Though I'm still pretty sure the performance hit will not be noticeable. 20180818 23:24:49<+wesdiscordbot> Oh. That conversation I had with Celtic Minstrel! 20180818 23:24:55< celmin> Yes, that's me. 20180818 23:25:01<+wesdiscordbot> ... 20180818 23:25:08< celmin> [Cel]tic [Min]strel 20180818 23:25:16<+wesdiscordbot> Oh. 20180818 23:31:10<+wesdiscordbot> A time of revelations. xD 20180818 23:36:57< celmin> Heh. --- Log closed Sun Aug 19 00:00:36 2018