--- Log opened Tue Aug 21 00:00:35 2018 --- Day changed Tue Aug 21 2018 20180821 00:00:35< celticminstrel> Perhaps the most important question is, does it work? And if not, is it easy to make it work? 20180821 00:00:55<+wesdiscordbot> That depends, mostly, on the scale of your project. 20180821 00:01:00<+wesdiscordbot> Which would almost always be huge. 20180821 00:01:03<+wesdiscordbot> It depends. 20180821 00:01:05<+wesdiscordbot> Mostly. 20180821 00:01:17<+wesdiscordbot> Anyone building that kind of total-conversion mod in Wesnoth is mad 20180821 00:01:47< celticminstrel> Come to think of it, the core addon type might be useful for back-porting certain types of changes from master to a stable version... 20180821 00:02:11<+wesdiscordbot> like what? 20180821 00:02:13< celticminstrel> (Though that would also be a tad inconvenient on the users, I guess.) 20180821 00:02:17< celticminstrel> Unit changes. 20180821 00:02:28< celticminstrel> Maybe terrain changes. 20180821 00:02:40<+wesdiscordbot> that seems like overkill 20180821 00:02:55< celticminstrel> A core can be a total-conversion but it could also include parts of the core assets if it wanted to. 20180821 00:03:09< celticminstrel> Yeah it might be overkill. 20180821 00:03:29<+wesdiscordbot> units could just be an era 20180821 00:03:31<+wesdiscordbot> smh 20180821 00:03:46<+wesdiscordbot> I second Pentartagon. 20180821 00:03:56<+wesdiscordbot> Sorry for spelling your name wrong 20180821 00:04:03<+wesdiscordbot> I didn't catch that c at first 20180821 00:04:06<+wesdiscordbot> 😛 20180821 00:05:43<+wesdiscordbot> Hmm…. that means I can use an core to make an era without having the 1322141 units from ageless listed in the help? 20180821 00:05:54<+wesdiscordbot> +1 20180821 00:05:58< celticminstrel> You probably could, yes. :P 20180821 00:05:59-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 20180821 00:06:09<+wesdiscordbot> hecking heck yea 20180821 00:08:34<+wesdiscordbot> Not that I would du that though… 20180821 00:09:00<+wesdiscordbot> heck no 20180821 00:09:09< celticminstrel> XD 20180821 00:12:20<+wesdiscordbot> how do you play a Core anyway? There's no button for it on the main menu anymore. 20180821 00:12:38<+wesdiscordbot> it appears if you install a core addon 20180821 00:12:42<+wesdiscordbot> ah 20180821 00:15:07<+wesdiscordbot> too bad nobody uploaded a core addon 20180821 00:15:44< celticminstrel> Maybe someone should. ;) 20180821 00:28:28-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180821 00:43:57-!- DasBrain [~Johannes1@unaffiliated/johannes13] has joined #wesnoth 20180821 01:09:42-!- hay207 [~hay207@41.235.216.43] has joined #wesnoth 20180821 02:13:55<+wesdiscordbot> Yeah. I've been waiting for three days now (which isn't very long). And then I calculated the odds of someone uploading a core add on and thought the better of it. 20180821 02:51:30-!- hay207 [~hay207@41.235.216.43] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20180821 02:56:30-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180821 02:56:36-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20180821 03:11:29-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Quit: And lo! The computer falls into a deep sleep, to awake again some other day!] 20180821 03:12:17-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has joined #wesnoth 20180821 03:13:40-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Client Quit] 20180821 03:14:44-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has joined #wesnoth 20180821 03:15:14-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Client Quit] 20180821 04:03:27-!- Johannes13 [~Johannes1@unaffiliated/johannes13] has joined #wesnoth 20180821 04:03:27-!- DasBrain [~Johannes1@unaffiliated/johannes13] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20180821 04:09:22-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180821 04:09:28-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20180821 04:57:28<+wesdiscordbot> @everyone 20180821 05:06:19<+wesdiscordbot> yeah, cores have been around for over 4 years now and nobody has uploaded one, so the chances anyone will do so soon is pretty low. 20180821 05:10:48<+wesdiscordbot> 4+ years coming from when this was posted: https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=40415 and the GNA link: https://web.archive.org/web/20170329201952/https://gna.org/bugs/?8832 20180821 05:12:31<+wesdiscordbot> I’ll drop it once I have the time. 20180821 06:39:16-!- hay207 [~hay207@41.235.216.43] has joined #wesnoth 20180821 06:39:58< hay207> Hi, how to open another instance of wesnoth in steam? 20180821 06:41:03<+wesdiscordbot> First, go to the steamapps directory: https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/1/828937546135949234/ 20180821 06:41:22<+wesdiscordbot> From there, go to "Battle for Wesnoth", then double-click wesnoth.exe. 20180821 07:12:09-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at] has joined #wesnoth 20180821 07:22:03-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has joined #wesnoth 20180821 07:25:45-!- Johannes13 [~Johannes1@unaffiliated/johannes13] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20180821 07:34:04-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 20180821 07:36:48-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has joined #wesnoth 20180821 07:36:48-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has quit [Client Quit] 20180821 07:39:26-!- louis94 [~~louis94@109.49-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #wesnoth 20180821 07:39:36-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20180821 08:14:19-!- Haldrik [~Haldrik@unaffiliated/haldrik] has joined #wesnoth 20180821 08:44:48-!- louis94 [~~louis94@109.49-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20180821 09:53:08-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180821 09:53:14-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20180821 10:18:49<+wesdiscordbot> Does anyone know under what license the dragons from The Library of Kratemaqht are? (https://units.wesnoth.org/1.12/Library_Of_Kratemaqht/en_US/The_Library_Of_Kratemaqht.html) 20180821 10:21:20<+wesdiscordbot> How does one know under what License stuff is registered? 😅 20180821 10:25:32<+wesdiscordbot> As of 1.12 GPL was the only allowed license. So it's GPL for all assets you get from 1.12. 20180821 10:26:10<+wesdiscordbot> (Although the original authors may have also made the assets available elsewhere with a more permissive license, nothing blocks them from doing that.) 20180821 10:29:18-!- Technaton [~eveith@2a01:4f8:191:7396:2::133] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.7.0 - https://znc.in] 20180821 10:31:29-!- loonycyborg [~loonycybo@wesnoth/developer/loonycyborg] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20180821 10:32:33-!- Elvish_Hunter [~elvish_hu@wesnoth/developer/elvish-hunter] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20180821 10:32:53<+wesdiscordbot> So, people can use it without giving credit to the original author? (I'm not sure if I got that right.) 20180821 10:33:22-!- Elvish_Hunter [~elvish_hu@wesnoth/developer/elvish-hunter] has joined #wesnoth 20180821 10:34:22<+wesdiscordbot> And how can a license be more permissive than GPL? ._. 20180821 10:36:08-!- loonycyborg [~loonycybo@wesnoth/developer/loonycyborg] has joined #wesnoth 20180821 10:36:57<+wesdiscordbot> easy, just remove the requirement to share your modified versions and remove the requirement to include the license as well. 20180821 10:37:43<+wesdiscordbot> WTFPL is an example of how permissive a license can be: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WTFPL 20180821 10:44:51<+wesdiscordbot> That name though. 😂 20180821 11:01:01<+wesdiscordbot> Ooh!! Something everybody wants 😘😘😘 20180821 11:01:08<+wesdiscordbot> This looks fantastic x3 20180821 11:01:34<+wesdiscordbot> Anything royalty free... 👌:))) 20180821 11:03:04<+wesdiscordbot> Hmm it says "Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim copies of this license document, but changing it is not allowed" I'm confused 20180821 11:03:20<+wesdiscordbot> changing what isn't allowed? the license itself? 20180821 11:03:37<+wesdiscordbot> oh the document 20180821 11:18:52<+wesdiscordbot> I doesn't surprise me that nobody used an core type add-on. It's purpose seem to be if you want to make a non-wesnoth add-on, like the various things you find in the app strore… The payoff seems to be that you don't have the know things listed in the help system…maybe you can also replace the [tutorial], I don't know. Other things you can already do. 20180821 11:36:02-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180821 11:38:28-!- Soliton [~Soliton@wesnoth/developer/soliton] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20180821 11:45:17-!- lobby [~wesnoth@wesnoth/bot/lobby] has joined #wesnoth 20180821 11:45:17-!- Topic for #wesnoth: Wesnoth User Channel | https://www.wesnoth.org | https://status.wesnoth.org | Official Discord: https://discord.gg/battleforwesnoth | >> Want to help? Go here: https://r.wesnoth.org/t42911 (and thanks!) << | Public IRC logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org 20180821 11:45:17-!- Topic set by shadowm [~iris@wesnoth/developer/shadowm] [Mon Apr 16 08:28:02 2018] 20180821 11:45:17[Users #wesnoth] 20180821 11:45:17[@shadowm ] [ dobson ] [ Haldrik ] [ lobby ] [ Polsaker ] [ WesnothServerFan] 20180821 11:45:17[+wesdiscordbot] [ elias ] [ hay207 ] [ loonycyborg] [ Ravana_ ] [ zookeeper ] 20180821 11:45:17[ aeth ] [ EliDupree ] [ HeyCitiz-] [ MadMerlin ] [ Soliton ] 20180821 11:45:17[ APic ] [ Elvish_Hunter ] [ Ipsilon ] [ minzbonbon ] [ TC01 ] 20180821 11:45:17[ clavi ] [ Falcon- ] [ Ivanovic ] [ nore ] [ TheJJ ] 20180821 11:45:17[ cyphase ] [ galegosimpatico] [ iwaim ] [ oldlaptop ] [ vihta ] 20180821 11:45:17[ DDR ] [ Grickit ] [ janebot ] [ PjotrOrial ] [ vincent_c] 20180821 11:45:17-!- Irssi: #wesnoth: Total of 37 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 1 voices, 35 normal] 20180821 11:45:17-!- Home page for #wesnoth: https://www.wesnoth.org 20180821 11:45:20-!- Channel #wesnoth created Sun Nov 26 06:42:43 2006 20180821 11:46:08-!- Irssi: Join to #wesnoth was synced in 59 secs 20180821 11:58:47-!- lobby [~wesnoth@wesnoth/bot/lobby] has joined #wesnoth 20180821 11:58:47-!- Topic for #wesnoth: Wesnoth User Channel | https://www.wesnoth.org | https://status.wesnoth.org | Official Discord: https://discord.gg/battleforwesnoth | >> Want to help? Go here: https://r.wesnoth.org/t42911 (and thanks!) << | Public IRC logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org 20180821 11:58:47-!- Topic set by shadowm [~iris@wesnoth/developer/shadowm] [Mon Apr 16 08:28:02 2018] 20180821 11:58:47[Users #wesnoth] 20180821 11:58:47[+wesdiscordbot] [ elias ] [ hay207 ] [ loonycyborg] [ Ravana_ ] [ WesnothServerFan] 20180821 11:58:47[ aeth ] [ EliDupree ] [ HeyCitiz-] [ MadMerlin ] [ shadowm ] [ zookeeper ] 20180821 11:58:47[ APic ] [ Elvish_Hunter ] [ Ipsilon ] [ minzbonbon ] [ Soliton ] 20180821 11:58:47[ clavi ] [ Falcon- ] [ Ivanovic ] [ nore ] [ TC01 ] 20180821 11:58:47[ cyphase ] [ galegosimpatico] [ iwaim ] [ oldlaptop ] [ TheJJ ] 20180821 11:58:47[ DDR ] [ Grickit ] [ janebot ] [ PjotrOrial ] [ vihta ] 20180821 11:58:47[ dobson ] [ Haldrik ] [ lobby ] [ Polsaker ] [ vincent_c] 20180821 11:58:47-!- Irssi: #wesnoth: Total of 37 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 1 voices, 36 normal] 20180821 11:58:48-!- Home page for #wesnoth: https://www.wesnoth.org 20180821 11:58:51-!- Channel #wesnoth created Sun Nov 26 06:42:43 2006 20180821 11:59:41-!- Irssi: Join to #wesnoth was synced in 62 secs 20180821 12:27:16-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has joined #wesnoth 20180821 12:57:47-!- Haudegen [~quassel@212-186-77-29.static.upcbusiness.at] has joined #wesnoth 20180821 12:59:24-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Quit: And lo! The computer falls into a deep sleep, to awake again some other day!] 20180821 13:21:55-!- Haudegen [~quassel@212-186-77-29.static.upcbusiness.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20180821 13:27:22<+wesdiscordbot> What’s the difference between a core add-on and a normal one? 20180821 13:27:36<+wesdiscordbot> Is there a big difference, to a lay man? 20180821 13:27:41<+wesdiscordbot> A core addon supposedly replaces the entire data/core folder basically. 20180821 13:28:20<+wesdiscordbot> Ah okay 20180821 13:28:27< zookeeper> cores are more or less the equivalent of a total conversion. 20180821 13:29:20<+wesdiscordbot> @sinda I lost the add-on era again, but as you predicted, any random add-on download brought it back. 20180821 13:57:04-!- Rhonda [~rhonda@wesnoth/developer/rhonda] has joined #wesnoth 20180821 14:27:07-!- mthe878 [~mthe@unaffiliated/mthe] has joined #wesnoth 20180821 14:28:35-!- Haudegen [~quassel@212-186-77-29.static.upcbusiness.at] has joined #wesnoth 20180821 14:32:06-!- mthe878 [~mthe@unaffiliated/mthe] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20180821 14:32:31-!- mthe878 [~mthe@unaffiliated/mthe] has joined #wesnoth 20180821 15:10:35-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180821 15:10:41-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20180821 15:19:37< Soliton> @Krogen: thanks for the report. there was an issue with replay saving found. on the next server restart it should be fixed. 20180821 15:20:39< Soliton> @Krogen: these things get easily lost here though so better make a bug report if you get not response here. 20180821 15:27:17< Soliton> the mp server is now restarted if there continue to be replays missing please report. 20180821 16:01:10-!- mthe878 [~mthe@unaffiliated/mthe] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20180821 16:26:52-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has joined #wesnoth 20180821 16:37:34-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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Nobody has been sending anything for hours now. Was there a bug with the add-on server? 20180821 23:33:58-!- gfgtdf [~chatzilla@x2f18687.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #wesnoth 20180821 23:41:44<+wesdiscordbot> there was something with the MP server 20180821 23:42:09<+wesdiscordbot> I don't think the add-ons server was involved 20180821 23:50:07-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has joined #wesnoth --- Log closed Wed Aug 22 00:00:40 2018