--- Log opened Tue Sep 18 00:00:55 2018 20180918 00:27:36-!- gfgtdf [~Daniel@x4e33a0d8.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20180918 00:52:58-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20180918 01:51:58-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180918 03:50:22-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Quit: And lo! The computer falls into a deep sleep, to awake again some other day!] 20180918 05:12:28-!- ToBeCloud [uid51591@wikimedia/ToBeFree] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180918 07:46:37<+wesdiscordbot> Where did Vultraz go? 20180918 08:01:02-!- ToBeCloud [uid51591@wikimedia/ToBeFree] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 20180918 08:01:35<+wesdiscordbot> I'm honestly surprised I didn't come back to several tags telling me to update the front page or whatever. 20180918 08:05:56<+wesdiscordbot> Well by this point the announcement is a formality so I'm just going to go ahead with it without him. 20180918 08:13:50-!- irker108 [~irker@wesnoth/umc-dev/bot/shikadibot] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180918 08:13:50< irker108> wesnoth: Iris Morelle wesmere:master 67435af9236f / static/docroot/index.php: home: Update for 1.14.5 https://github.com/wesnoth/wesmere/commit/67435af9236f1127ac1817cbabb43053fe4e7f91 20180918 08:46:48-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180918 09:26:57-!- Ivanovic_ [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180918 09:28:48-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20180918 09:29:56-!- Ivanovic_ is now known as Ivanovic 20180918 10:02:28-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180918 11:13:46-!- irker108 [~irker@wesnoth/umc-dev/bot/shikadibot] has quit [Quit: transmission timeout] 20180918 11:37:44-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180918 12:44:23<+wesdiscordbot> All: https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=48837 please read and (if you have access to that forum), do give your thoughts 20180918 12:47:08<+wesdiscordbot> typo: shades -> shaders 20180918 12:48:37<+wesdiscordbot> Also in the second-to-last sentence of the first paragraph: "the Help system is halfway unable" 20180918 12:48:51<+wesdiscordbot> (I assume that was meant to say 'usable') 20180918 12:49:20<+wesdiscordbot> ty, fixed 20180918 13:00:51<+wesdiscordbot> replied 20180918 13:03:06-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has quit [Quit: mattsc] 20180918 13:06:56<+wesdiscordbot> also jostephd might be a good person to be able to reply, seeing as he's newer and been contributing a fair bit recently. 20180918 13:09:23<+wesdiscordbot> replied to your reply 20180918 13:12:43-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180918 14:02:41-!- irker776 [~irker@wesnoth/umc-dev/bot/shikadibot] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180918 14:02:41< irker776> wesnoth/wesnoth:master newfrenchy83 2b05de71f5 Update attack.cpp AppVeyor: All builds passed 20180918 14:52:25-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has quit [Quit: mattsc] 20180918 15:20:57-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180918 15:26:45< irker776> wesnoth/wesnoth:master newfrenchy83 06b75a5887 Update attack.cpp AppVeyor: All builds passed 20180918 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the connection] 20180918 19:51:34-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180918 20:47:36-!- ToBeCloud [uid51591@wikimedia/ToBeFree] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 20180918 21:05:39-!- vn971 [~vasya@94.158.103.15] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20180918 21:35:57-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180918 21:36:03-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180918 22:23:49-!- boucman [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180918 22:47:54-!- irker212 [~irker@wesnoth/umc-dev/bot/shikadibot] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180918 22:47:54< irker212> wesnoth/wesnoth:master newfrenchy83 00501d6b61 Update wesnoth.cbp AppVeyor: All builds passed 20180918 23:02:47-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20180918 23:17:12<+wesdiscordbot> @Vultraz what does changing the engine mean for add-on creators? 20180918 23:17:15<+wesdiscordbot> will we still have WML and such? 20180918 23:17:29<+wesdiscordbot> Almost certainly not. 20180918 23:18:12<+wesdiscordbot> well that's a pain hmm.. 20180918 23:18:13<+wesdiscordbot> Waaait, what 20180918 23:18:22<+wesdiscordbot> You getting rid of WML? 😦 20180918 23:18:43<+wesdiscordbot> guess that means I'm not going to work on my campaign for a while then 🤷 20180918 23:19:13<+wesdiscordbot> The most effective course would to not tie ourselves down with worries about backwards compatibility 20180918 23:19:49<+wesdiscordbot> @Vazl we're considering a switch to a new engine for a 2.x series. If we do do that, WML will always work with the 1.x series. 20180918 23:20:08<+wesdiscordbot> I was finally getting into the while WML thing and having a blaaast 😅 So, is it going to be lua exclusive on that new series? 20180918 23:20:23<+wesdiscordbot> And will you be developing both series , or dropping 1x? 20180918 23:21:00<+wesdiscordbot> We have no solid plans yet. We're in a discussion phase. See https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=48837 20180918 23:21:44<+wesdiscordbot> Alright. I will put that in a tab and check it out when I have more time. Thanks, Vultraz 🙂 20180918 23:22:09<+wesdiscordbot> Wouldn't it be possible to somehow retain WML in this new series? If that's discussed in that thread, I apologize 20180918 23:22:34<+wesdiscordbot> I don't think it's a good idea. 20180918 23:23:13<+wesdiscordbot> 👌 20180918 23:24:27<+wesdiscordbot> @Yumi You do realize that this wouldn't materialize for at least a couple of years right? 20180918 23:24:49<+wesdiscordbot> then I guess I wont be working on my campaign for a couple of years 😶 20180918 23:25:31<+wesdiscordbot> I mean this "oh you'll do X then I guess I won't do Y" mindset doesn't help advance the situation in any productive direction. 20180918 23:26:06<+wesdiscordbot> right but I'm not going to write code in WML if the plan is to remove it 20180918 23:26:19<+wesdiscordbot> Kind of how I'm feeling too 😐 20180918 23:26:21<+wesdiscordbot> which is a totally understandable decision, to switch engines I mean 20180918 23:26:30<+wesdiscordbot> Then I guess I should tell past me to not write IftU and AtS :p 20180918 23:26:57<+wesdiscordbot> I mean, realistically, do you expect to still be writing your campaign 2 years from now? 20180918 23:27:20<+wesdiscordbot> I was planning to get back to it after my exams are over 20180918 23:27:25<+wesdiscordbot> Even if we did do this, like I said, your campaign would just be a 1.x campaign. 20180918 23:27:33<+wesdiscordbot> we aren't gonna nuke 1.14 from orbit. 20180918 23:27:38<+wesdiscordbot> Well, possibly. I've been on and off Wesnoth since the early 2000s. 20180918 23:28:00<+wesdiscordbot> Maybe there will be some way to convert older WML mods to the new engine, somewhat pain-free. Who knows what you come up with 😃 20180918 23:28:33<+wesdiscordbot> nevertheless I'd still wait for 2.0 to come out before writing more code 20180918 23:28:42<+wesdiscordbot> personally, I mean 20180918 23:28:43<+wesdiscordbot> Converting WML to WML is error-prone as it is. 20180918 23:28:54<+wesdiscordbot> True enough 😄 20180918 23:28:54<+wesdiscordbot> (wmllint) 20180918 23:29:37<+wesdiscordbot> but again, I dont think switching engines is bad 20180918 23:30:00<+wesdiscordbot> Neither do I. Didn't mean to give that impression, if I happened to 20180918 23:30:03<+wesdiscordbot> just up to vultraz and other devs to see if it's really feasible 20180918 23:30:18<+wesdiscordbot> just up to vultraz and other devs to see if it's really feasible 20180918 23:38:21-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20180918 23:45:57-!- behalebabo [~behalebab@unaffiliated/behalebabo] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20180918 23:50:17-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180918 23:50:52-!- behalebabo [~behalebab@unaffiliated/behalebabo] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20180918 23:51:53< galegosimpatico> What is ToD crossfade? --- Log closed Wed Sep 19 00:00:56 2018