--- Log opened Sat Oct 20 00:00:47 2018 20181020 00:01:15-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20181020 00:27:53< hk238> https://pasteboard.co/HJfnpER.png 20181020 00:27:59< hk238> here's another attempt at drawing a support unit, not very good 20181020 00:33:08-!- irker222 [~irker@wesnoth/umc-dev/bot/shikadibot] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20181020 00:33:08< irker222> morningstar: Iris Morelle :master * 78f9c58 / src/main.cpp: Fix issue with the process not exiting after closing the main window https://git.io/fxolW 20181020 00:33:11-!- mode/#wesnoth-umc-dev [+v irker222] by ChanServ 20181020 00:44:31<+irker222> project-ethea: newfrenchy83 After_the_Storm:master 5b2c079c94ce / episode2/scenarios/01_By_the_Moonlight.cfg: Update 01_By_the_Moonlight.cfg https://github.com/project-ethea/After_the_Storm/commit/5b2c079c94cee79c1aa47af84bed0c34427d3fea 20181020 01:31:39-!- hk238 [~kvirc@unaffiliated/hk238] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 5.0.0 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/] 20181020 02:04:38-!- gfgtdf [~Daniel@x5ce29c8c.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20181020 02:32:55-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has quit [Quit: So long and thanks for all the fish.] 20181020 04:57:10-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20181020 05:21:56-!- irker222 [~irker@wesnoth/umc-dev/bot/shikadibot] has quit [Quit: transmission timeout] 20181020 05:50:33-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20181020 06:26:20-!- celticminstrel is now known as celmin|sleep 20181020 09:26:40-!- vn971 [~vasya@94.158.103.15] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20181020 09:27:57-!- vn971 [~vasya@94.158.103.15] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20181020 11:20:17-!- hk238 [~kvirc@unaffiliated/hk238] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20181020 13:22:43< hk238> https://pasteboard.co/HJkrJ3f.png ... this one will be some sort of support unit 20181020 13:27:45-!- celmin|sleep is now known as celticminstrel 20181020 13:28:26< hk238> having some problems with design 20181020 13:28:46< hk238> I think I'll have to do something along the lines of making some units leader only 20181020 13:29:02< hk238> and then the rest of the units available for only some of the leaders to recruit 20181020 13:29:09< hk238> there's some of theme with cross for 3 units 20181020 13:29:14< hk238> then there's the japanese vampire line 20181020 13:29:28< hk238> I'm not sure how many different subfactions this be split into 20181020 13:29:46< hk238> anyway it's necessary to come up with more units 20181020 13:29:55< hk238> and abilities 20181020 13:30:36-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20181020 13:30:48< celticminstrel> ...Japanese vampire? 20181020 13:31:54< hk238> ahh I'm making this vampire faction and trying to design, draw the units. Currently the workflow bottleneck is with having trouble designing the units. One of the units is a japanese vampire 20181020 13:32:04< hk238> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/n832sv/wesnoth_vampire_faction/master/advancement_tree_2.png 20181020 13:32:09< celticminstrel> WTH is a Japanese vampire. 20181020 13:32:11< hk238> like there's the advancement tree 20181020 13:32:24< celticminstrel> Third one down I guess. 20181020 13:32:26< celticminstrel> ? 20181020 13:32:34< celticminstrel> Or wait. 20181020 13:32:40< celticminstrel> Are all of those the vampire? 20181020 13:32:59< hk238> yes 20181020 13:33:05< celticminstrel> So basically it's just a vampire. 20181020 13:33:10< celticminstrel> Who happens to be Japanese. 20181020 13:33:13< celticminstrel> Okay then. 20181020 13:33:18< celticminstrel> Bit unusual but makes sense. 20181020 13:33:29< hk238> yeah :D 20181020 13:33:36< celticminstrel> Not something I'd ever expect to see as a generic unit, but whatever! 20181020 13:33:55< hk238> It's probably going to be one of those leader only units 20181020 13:34:07< hk238> I have very little ideas about what it's like just 2 concepts 20181020 13:34:14< hk238> one is that it unlocks recruiting 'vampire trees' 20181020 13:34:24< celticminstrel> The image you linked seems to show a whole horde of units though. 20181020 13:34:35< hk238> and second is that it has some sort of melee with special 'forbidden lore' which is only useable against units of race elf 20181020 13:34:41< celticminstrel> Which is the leader unit? 20181020 13:34:58< hk238> ah they're all currently just 'vampires' but the way I'm trying to structure this is 20181020 13:35:16< hk238> that some of them will be selected as leader only units, then depending on the choice of leader, only some of the units will be recruitable 20181020 13:35:26< hk238> like for an example, if your leader is the unit with the very red armour 20181020 13:35:35< hk238> then it would unlock recruiting the other 2 units with the cross on the armour 20181020 13:35:49< hk238> and those would not be available to recruit for some other leader choice 20181020 13:36:00< celticminstrel> Sounds complicated. 20181020 13:36:20< hk238> ah yes I'm having trouble with the design currently.. I dont have a workflow 20181020 13:36:33< hk238> I think the mage line will be available to all leaders 20181020 13:37:40< hk238> mage line is the one in the upper left corner 20181020 13:38:28< hk238> shaman - witch line is below the japaense vampire line.. so far have I no design concepts, except thinking it would be appropriate if the line would have arcane resistance while other vampires would have a penalty 20181020 13:45:04< hk238> think I'll try and represent the leader choice business with an image 20181020 15:24:56< hk238> https://pasteboard.co/HJlfF6z.png 20181020 15:25:03< hk238> here's what I got currently going on 20181020 15:26:02< hk238> looks like the japanese line at this rate becomes a leader only unit line 20181020 15:29:45< hk238> it's a bit unclear but basically the 4 sections in the lower left area are supposed to demonstrate which units are unlocked for recruitment by the leader choice 20181020 15:31:34< hk238> I think I'll add 1 more leader only vampire unit which will be based loosely on the 'nosferatu' type vampire in white wolf's stuff 20181020 15:31:53< hk238> and allow that to recruit the rogue line and the japanese vampire line, although thematically that connection doens't make much sense 20181020 15:32:10< hk238> and then create this 'vampire tree' unit for the japanese line 20181020 15:32:16< hk238> that would be sort of it for the vampiric units 20181020 15:32:32< hk238> and then I'd need to make some support units, or non-vampire units, but having huge trouble coming up with anything 20181020 15:32:59< hk238> basically each sub-faction would then have 3 vampire units for recruitment 20181020 15:33:42< hk238> wait but no faction can recruit the victorian.... 20181020 15:33:47< hk238> tricky 20181020 15:33:47< hk238> :D 20181020 15:34:35< hk238> I guess the japanese could recruit that too although then the similarity would be quite high 20181020 15:43:55<+wesdiscordbot> my entire addon in nutshell: https://youtu.be/4WX58CZwyiU 20181020 16:00:49-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has quit [Quit: So long and thanks for all the fish.] 20181020 16:17:20< hk238> https://pasteboard.co/HJlAVaL.png 20181020 16:17:30< hk238> here's an attempt, but it's pretty bad 20181020 16:19:26<+wesdiscordbot> hood is a bit weird 20181020 16:19:37<+wesdiscordbot> change the shape of the black part on the head a bit, it looks rather unnatural 20181020 16:20:13< hk238> hmm how exactly? :o 20181020 16:22:42< hk238> I agree it looks weird, I'm not happy with this result. Kind of makes me want to start over 20181020 16:22:52< hk238> I'm not sure how to edit the current version though 20181020 16:24:10< hk238> I think my idea of what I wanted to draw here was too vague as well not very detailed. Some obscure robey character 20181020 16:30:09< hk238> although I did think as the figure of the character being slightly slouched so that the head is tilted forward and then the hood sort of hangs towards the front 20181020 16:30:48< hk238> but I think I want to redraw this.. maybe have the hood sleeves end earlier so you can see hands, and perhaps the robe could be more revealing towards the figure of the character 20181020 16:32:54< hk238> first shower & fresh coffee 20181020 16:38:33-!- gfgtdf [~Daniel@x4e320041.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20181020 16:48:08-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20181020 17:18:35< hk238> here's an attempt at drawing a vampire tree..... 20181020 17:19:03< hk238> https://pasteboard.co/HJlZYWO.png 20181020 17:25:04< hk238> it'll have to do for now 20181020 17:26:04< hk238> okay so one more vampire unit and then the rest are non-vampires 20181020 17:27:05< hk238> I thought cherry tree would go with the japanese vampire line since it's for that sub-faction 20181020 17:31:49< hk238> okay I'll try to do the last unit and scrap the previous attempt.. 20181020 17:53:49< hk238> this is the most horrible looking attempt for these..... 20181020 17:55:20< hk238> looks like some sort of bathrobe person with weird shoes 20181020 17:55:24<+wesdiscordbot> For the vampire wose, maybe have some small red lines in the trunk? And instead have the eyes in the foliage? 20181020 17:56:13< hk238> possible 20181020 17:56:27<+wesdiscordbot> Also for the robed person, everything looks right about him, except the face 20181020 17:56:51<+wesdiscordbot> The ‘hidden face’ part, should be smaller, at least in my opinion 20181020 17:56:53< hk238> I'll show you this WIP 2nd attempt at the robed person. It's terrible 20181020 17:57:18< hk238> https://pasteboard.co/HJmfxuL.png 20181020 17:58:09< hk238> going to the bath in Dutch wooden shoes and posing awkwardly for some shampoo advertisement. 20181020 17:58:32< hk238> not the kind of look I was going forr..... 20181020 18:00:40< hk238> I think I should pick some reference image 20181020 18:00:42< hk238> any suggestions? :D 20181020 19:03:55<+wesdiscordbot> hmm 20181020 19:04:03<+wesdiscordbot> hk238, are you here? 20181020 19:04:08< hk238> yes 20181020 19:04:10< hk238> yes 20181020 19:04:16< hk238> oops 20181020 19:04:16<+wesdiscordbot> hi 20181020 19:04:29< hk238> what's up? 20181020 19:05:20<+wesdiscordbot> superbad sprites bein made 20181020 19:05:36< hk238> where? Mine? They're bad.. 20181020 19:05:53<+wesdiscordbot> my friend's 20181020 19:05:58<+wesdiscordbot> they are awful xd 20181020 19:06:36< hk238> so why do you bring this up? 20181020 19:06:52<+wesdiscordbot> it's fun 20181020 19:07:00<+wesdiscordbot> So why they are your firends? xd 20181020 19:07:05<+wesdiscordbot> :GWrjkKappaLUL: 20181020 19:07:18<+wesdiscordbot> tldr this: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/382395533399949316/503282864931078149/maket_toadlings_prodigioustoad.png 20181020 19:07:46<+wesdiscordbot> Oh i get it now. 20181020 19:07:49<+wesdiscordbot> im overhelmed with need to make an addon filled with ridicolous and badly made sprites 20181020 19:08:16<+wesdiscordbot> how do i stop this urge 20181020 19:08:18<+wesdiscordbot> lol 20181020 19:10:19< hk238> https://pasteboard.co/HJmJcdw.png 20181020 19:10:25< hk238> here's another version of this robe guy 20181020 19:10:28<+wesdiscordbot> oh shit https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/435878150329729046/502908319850299412/2018-10-19_21.15.07.png 20181020 19:10:34<+wesdiscordbot> :GWmythiBlobLUL: 20181020 19:11:34<+wesdiscordbot> im stopping everything to make this a valid addon 20181020 19:13:39< hk238> I'm not sure why you wanted me to see those 20181020 19:14:39<+wesdiscordbot> i thonked you'd enjoy seeing some spriters which are terrible, especially compared to yours, so that'd inspire you 20181020 19:15:31<+wesdiscordbot> feeling inspired? 20181020 19:21:06< hk238> not particularly, but that does seem like a positive sort of effort 20181020 19:21:19< hk238> https://pasteboard.co/HJmNELW.png 20181020 19:21:25< hk238> a bit more work on that 20181020 19:24:36< hk238> although I think there's a big break in style with this unit compared to the others.. but it might do for now 20181020 19:28:23< hk238> there's still a lot of images to draw 20181020 19:28:49< hk238> but once this one gets level2 and 3 that should be it for the vampire units, rest will non-vampires 20181020 19:29:05< hk238> could also even get started by simply including some default units 20181020 19:47:22< hk238> hmm having trouble coming up with some concepts for the support units 20181020 21:14:42<+wesdiscordbot> he gives me Darth Sidiosu vibes 20181020 21:16:28< hk238> https://pasteboard.co/HJnynG3.png 20181020 21:16:38< hk238> here's some sort of ranger inspired by huntsman/ranger unit 20181020 21:20:38< hk238> not sure how that fits into the faction though 20181020 21:21:45< hk238> I guess the previous unit will unlock that one 20181020 21:26:22< hk238> https://pasteboard.co/HJnCqki.png 20181020 21:26:23< hk238> some more shading 20181020 21:26:47< hk238> ok that's it for that one...... what else to make? 20181020 21:38:14< hk238> https://pasteboard.co/HJnHf1d.png 20181020 21:38:19< hk238> here's current status of subfaction structures 20181020 21:38:55< hk238> most out of place is the japanese vampire in the 'sidious' subfaction 20181020 21:39:00< hk238> probably have to figure something about that 20181020 21:39:02< hk238> maybe replace with shaman 20181020 21:40:52< hk238> yes I'll change it so only the japanese leader can recruit the japanese vampire 20181020 21:42:31< hk238> https://pasteboard.co/HJnIZ1f.png 20181020 21:42:34< hk238> here's the revised version 20181020 21:43:14< hk238> hm that's not good 20181020 21:43:21< hk238> now the two have the same vampire recruits 20181020 21:43:46< hk238> I guess it's okay for now 20181020 21:44:18< hk238> so now I need to just make some more non-vamp units 20181020 21:45:52< hk238> just need some ideas about what they should be :d 20181020 21:48:09< hk238> Modding channel is really quiet most of the time. I'm just 'rubber ducking' the faction design. :D 20181020 21:50:11< hk238> I'll cook something and play a game :p 20181020 22:41:15-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20181020 23:38:38<+wesdiscordbot> Hmm 20181020 23:38:58<+wesdiscordbot> You could make charmed or turned animals 20181020 23:41:08<+wesdiscordbot> Or maybe like candidates or supporters of vampires 20181020 23:42:06<+wesdiscordbot> Like a noble unit that produces extra income or something along that line when stationed in a village. Cause he’s wants to be a vampire/is supportive of their cause 20181020 23:42:51<+wesdiscordbot> Or a vampiric dog creatures would be cool. Something like the Death Hounds from Skyrim 20181020 23:43:27<+wesdiscordbot> Or maybe a Chupacabra. Like the more scaly version from legends --- Log closed Sun Oct 21 00:00:48 2018