--- Log opened Mon Oct 01 00:00:17 2018 20181001 00:40:29-!- sevu [~sevu@p548543A7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20181001 00:53:31-!- hyp3rbor3ax_ [~hyp3rbor3@p57B39987.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20181001 00:56:53-!- hyp3rbor3ax [~hyp3rbor3@p57A6ECDB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20181001 01:43:51-!- hay207 [~hay207@41.234.186.159] has joined #wesnoth 20181001 01:44:43< hay207> Hi guys, is there a deb version of wesnoth version 1.14.4 or 1.14.5 ? 20181001 01:55:53-!- hay207 [~hay207@41.234.186.159] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20181001 02:46:02<+wesdiscordbot> the new godot thing seems interesting 20181001 02:52:47< celticminstrel> Don't hold your breath. 20181001 02:53:07< celticminstrel> It might pan out, or it might be dropped in three or six months. 20181001 02:56:31-!- kitsunenokenja [~kitsunech@68.91.220.96] has joined #wesnoth 20181001 03:04:18-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20181001 03:04:24-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20181001 03:14:54-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has quit [Quit: So long and thanks for all the fish.] 20181001 03:17:41-!- kitsunenokenja [~kitsunech@68.91.220.96] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20181001 03:23:53-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Quit: And lo! The computer falls into a deep sleep, to awake again some other day!] 20181001 03:30:32-!- hyp3rbor3ax_ [~hyp3rbor3@p57B39987.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20181001 03:34:14<+wesdiscordbot> You could be more positive 20181001 05:12:51-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20181001 06:35:35<+wesdiscordbot> I mean, the reason the goal is a prototype is to see if it's feasible. 20181001 06:36:17<+wesdiscordbot> so it very well might not be. 20181001 06:38:13<+wesdiscordbot> obviously I don't want it to fail, but it's also not the sort of thing anyone should assume will be successful either. 20181001 06:51:08<+wesdiscordbot> https://yihui.name/en/2018/06/cache-invalidation/ 20181001 06:55:44-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has joined #wesnoth 20181001 07:00:13<+wesdiscordbot> Like with all things, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_aren't_gonna_need_it is a good approach to caching. It's a good idea to implement caching only if it's found necessary. 20181001 07:13:51-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 20181001 07:55:15-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at] has joined #wesnoth 20181001 08:27:34<+wesdiscordbot> Hey, my friend in Vietnam is having trouble reading this page: https://units.wesnoth.org/1.14/mainline/en_US/mainline.html Trying to show them what units are in the game and it's displaying. Is the Wesnoth.org website blocking Vietnam's IP? 20181001 08:33:04<+wesdiscordbot> I don't think that's it - I can't get there either and I'm in the US. 20181001 08:33:36<+wesdiscordbot> or addons.wesnoth.org, it seems. 20181001 08:35:15<+wesdiscordbot> I guess it's not just me having issues, at least. 20181001 08:36:30< zookeeper> yeah, to me wesnoth.org seems to be down. 20181001 08:37:25<+wesdiscordbot> can't be all of it though. I can get to the forums just fine. 20181001 08:37:48<+wesdiscordbot> wait no 20181001 08:37:55<+wesdiscordbot> forums too 20181001 08:37:58<+wesdiscordbot> >.< 20181001 08:38:02<+wesdiscordbot> The status page is down. xD 20181001 08:38:15<+wesdiscordbot> But I can reach the forums. 20181001 08:38:49<+wesdiscordbot> And the home page. 20181001 08:39:08<+wesdiscordbot> For me everything seems fine. units, forums, status, homepage, create.. all good. 20181001 08:39:57<+wesdiscordbot> For me: Down: units, server, play, create, project Up: home, forums, news 20181001 08:40:05<+wesdiscordbot> Suffice to say, I'm confused. 20181001 08:41:14<+wesdiscordbot> The addon lists are down too... 20181001 08:44:43<+wesdiscordbot> @Inky Sorry for going MIA for a week there! 😛 20181001 08:45:14<+wesdiscordbot> I just finished a marathon recording session where I recorded each part 6 times (phew, it was exhausting) 20181001 08:45:57<+wesdiscordbot> Before I send it to you to record cello I need to go through and mix it a little bit to make it easier to record to 20181001 08:47:30<+wesdiscordbot> But here is a quick sample of it where I've just panned the parts across the spectrum and put a (bad) reverb on it 20181001 08:47:31<+wesdiscordbot> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/496241738374184960/test.mp3 20181001 09:45:02<+wesdiscordbot> For me, the forum loads without the page header. Home page, add-ons, play and create aren't loading at all. 20181001 09:52:45-!- Elvish_Hunter_ [~Elvish_Hu@wesnoth/developer/elvish-hunter] has joined #wesnoth 20181001 09:55:43<+wesdiscordbot> status says Domain Name System and Add-ons Server have issues and Web Server is offline. 20181001 10:18:01-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20181001 10:25:37<+wesdiscordbot> How long till the game works again? 20181001 10:31:15< loonycyborg> it works in 1.14 branch :P 20181001 10:39:09< zookeeper> i bet he means the servers being down right now. 20181001 10:40:19<+wesdiscordbot> Nods 20181001 11:04:01<+wesdiscordbot> @Shad I'm not sure why exactly wesnoth.org no longer works but as workaround you can connect by IP 20181001 11:04:04<+wesdiscordbot> 144.76.5.6 20181001 11:04:49<+wesdiscordbot> Just use that IP with "connect to server" option 😛 20181001 11:04:50<+wesdiscordbot> Oh thanks ^^ 20181001 12:11:33-!- Elvish_Hunter_ [~Elvish_Hu@wesnoth/developer/elvish-hunter] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 20181001 12:16:41<+wesdiscordbot> Someone ask Rhonda or soliton to contact our dns provider if they haven't already 20181001 12:17:52<+wesdiscordbot> Loonycyborg already asked them about it in IRC. 20181001 12:18:18<+wesdiscordbot> Okay good 20181001 13:28:06-!- Haudegen [~quassel@212-186-77-29.static.upcbusiness.at] has joined #wesnoth 20181001 14:44:31-!- hay207 [~hay207@196.146.7.136] has joined #wesnoth 20181001 14:45:25< hay207> Hi guys, wesnoth server status site seems down 20181001 14:45:49< hay207> And i cannot login to wesnoth lobby 20181001 14:46:32<+wesdiscordbot> Yeah we know about it 20181001 14:46:40<+wesdiscordbot> There's nothing we can do atm other than wait 20181001 14:47:59< hay207> Ok 20181001 14:53:44-!- hay207 [~hay207@196.146.7.136] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20181001 14:59:54-!- hay207 [~hay207@41.235.238.85] has joined #wesnoth 20181001 15:35:47-!- hay207 [~hay207@41.235.238.85] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20181001 15:41:28-!- Haudegen [~quassel@212-186-77-29.static.upcbusiness.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20181001 15:49:32-!- sevu [~sevu@p54855486.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20181001 16:06:02-!- sevu [~sevu@p54855486.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20181001 16:07:24-!- sevu [~sevu@p54855486.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20181001 16:11:49-!- mthe878 [~mthe@unaffiliated/mthe] has joined #wesnoth 20181001 16:19:11-!- psymin [~psymin@69.146.8.222] has joined #wesnoth 20181001 16:19:19<+wesdiscordbot> Why when i upload file into g-drive it instantly gets like +10 decimal places?? Hush... 20181001 16:20:01< psymin> I'm sure you folks already know, but DNS for wesnoth.org is gone. 20181001 16:23:46< loonycyborg> seems like it's some badly set TTL issue 20181001 16:46:29-!- sevu [~sevu@p54855486.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20181001 16:49:31-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at] has joined #wesnoth 20181001 16:59:37-!- TheJJ [~rofl@ipbcc06208.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Quit: løl] 20181001 17:25:26-!- TheJJ [~rofl@ipbcc06208.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #wesnoth 20181001 17:31:21<+wesdiscordbot> Gone as in misplaced or gone as in eradicated? 20181001 17:36:36<+wesdiscordbot> ¯_(ツ)_/¯ 20181001 17:43:23-!- hay207 [~hay207@41.235.238.85] has joined #wesnoth 20181001 17:52:37< psymin> Hmm. the authoritative servers return info, but no other servers I query do 20181001 17:52:59< psymin> so yeah, maybe a ttl issue 20181001 17:55:07< psymin> but it is set for 24h it looks, so maybe by this time tomorrow everything will work? :) 20181001 17:57:36< psymin> but it seems like google (8.8.8.8) has no record, so it should fetch. Hmm. 20181001 18:10:52<+wesdiscordbot> forum down aswell? 20181001 18:13:02<+wesdiscordbot> Yup. 20181001 18:14:57<+wesdiscordbot> it works for me 20181001 18:16:28<+wesdiscordbot> I was working for me eriler, but now its not. 20181001 18:16:30< psymin> Looks like 144.76.5.6 in a hosts file would fix it for people, mostly. 20181001 18:28:49<+wesdiscordbot> somebody pls post here once the forum is up again. thanks in regard. 20181001 18:50:14< psymin> site seems to be up, just not DNS. Put forums.wesnoth.org in your hosts file and 144.76.5.6 and you'll be set for now. 20181001 18:59:36< psymin> https://www.petri.com/easily-edit-hosts-file-windows-10 20181001 19:01:14<+wesdiscordbot> I always forget that windows has /etc in drivers folder 20181001 19:07:32<+wesdiscordbot> running osx. will look into that later. maybe. 20181001 19:19:13<+wesdiscordbot> Someone on steam claimed that the domain wesnoth.org has expired today. Does that one have any reason for saying that or is it just thought up explanation? 20181001 19:19:37< psymin> Registry Expiry Date: 2019-09-29T05:36:59Z 20181001 19:19:45<+wesdiscordbot> It did. 20181001 19:19:53< psymin> Ahh! 20181001 19:20:07< psymin> Updated Date: 2018-10-01T07:13:01Z 20181001 19:21:16<+wesdiscordbot> Why should this update to expire earlier? ._. 20181001 19:22:34< psymin> maybe the registrar has a grace period of a few days? 20181001 19:23:43<+wesdiscordbot> A grace period for what? :/ 20181001 19:25:08< psymin> oh I see what you're asking. Today it was updated, so that probably means it was renewed today? 20181001 19:25:52< psymin> and that caused the expiry date to be in 2019 instead of when it was prior, which was likely 2018-09-29, and if DNS worked on the 30th, then maybe the registrar had a grace period 20181001 19:27:44<+wesdiscordbot> Oh. Okay, now I get what said. 20181001 19:29:37< psymin> I apologize for not speaking very clearly earlier. 20181001 19:31:59< janebot> wesnoth: Are the wesnoth servers down right now? (10/1/18 12:30pm PST) (by /u/Kevrst) https://redd.it/9kjih3 20181001 19:39:34-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has joined #wesnoth 20181001 19:44:39<+wesdiscordbot> Wesnoth has twitter? 20181001 19:45:35< psymin> apparently! https://twitter.com/Wesnoth 20181001 19:46:29<+wesdiscordbot> Also, our facebook is a mess. xD 20181001 19:46:43<+wesdiscordbot> https://www.facebook.com/Battle-for-Wesnoth-1671354243186470/ 20181001 19:46:50<+wesdiscordbot> https://www.facebook.com/wesnothian/ 20181001 19:47:00<+wesdiscordbot> Two pages, apparently neither being maintained. 😦 20181001 19:47:40< psymin> On the topic of playing wesnoth multiplayer, is there a way to play the game asynchronously where all players involved don't aren't required to have the client running unless they're taking their turn? 20181001 19:47:54< psymin> word fail sorry :D 20181001 19:48:59< loonycyborg> I suppose you could exit game after each turn and then your side would be returned to host automatically 20181001 19:49:08< loonycyborg> and then log back in for your turn 20181001 19:49:20< loonycyborg> but host will have to return your side to you manually :P 20181001 19:50:28< psymin> Can the game be hosted by a machine that is not actively participating as a player? 20181001 19:55:18<+wesdiscordbot> yes 20181001 19:56:30< psymin> Cool. so I can have a wesnoth "server" running in a virtual machine, that all players connect to whenever they want, take their turn, and disconnect? 20181001 19:59:31-!- sevu [~sevu@p54855486.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20181001 20:05:59< loonycyborg> at least host much be always online 20181001 20:06:05< loonycyborg> or game will be autoterminated 20181001 20:06:18< loonycyborg> game always require a host player 20181001 20:06:36< loonycyborg> *must 20181001 20:07:28< loonycyborg> "host" being a client that has ownership rights over it and thus can ban/kick other players etc 20181001 20:07:38< loonycyborg> and there will be always one host 20181001 20:07:49< loonycyborg> if current host leaves then other player becomes host 20181001 20:07:54< loonycyborg> or game is terminated 20181001 20:10:19< psymin> does the host need to be a client that has a player associated? 20181001 20:10:28-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20181001 20:13:16< loonycyborg> you definitely need a client 20181001 20:13:30< loonycyborg> and iirc it must be particular player 20181001 20:13:36< loonycyborg> observer can't be host 20181001 20:14:56<+wesdiscordbot> host can become observer though 20181001 20:15:38< loonycyborg> though you could modify scenario so that there will be one side with hidden unit inside mountain or something 20181001 20:15:59< loonycyborg> and that one can be a host that you control via client on that vm 20181001 20:16:23< loonycyborg> not sure how easily implementable this will be 20181001 20:16:29< psymin> If there is an interested wesnoth dev with a patreon or something, I'd definitely pitch in some cash for that type of feature :) 20181001 20:16:36<+wesdiscordbot> it doesnt need to be real client even, I have used https://github.com/ProditorMagnus/wesbot_public as host 20181001 20:16:55<+wesdiscordbot> I have implemented :control command for it 20181001 20:16:59< psymin> Looking into that wesbot thing :) checking thanks! 20181001 20:19:21<+wesdiscordbot> I have some more commits I have not moved over to public repo, let me know if you plan to try it out more than once 20181001 20:22:16< psymin> checked it out, having an issue building hashwes on linux, no worries 20181001 20:23:03<+wesdiscordbot> I have binary for linux there, it might work 20181001 20:23:43<+wesdiscordbot> did you see https://github.com/ProditorMagnus/wesbot/commit/0c2dc3b318a9e08efb71ef7ab212f6ebca568fde#diff-7dfadcbae07862287e3587d9288a5240 20181001 20:25:14< sevu> ^ it's a 404 for me 20181001 20:26:17<+wesdiscordbot> oh right 20181001 20:26:50<+wesdiscordbot> its "To compile / sudo apt install libssl-dev / gcc -I. -o hashwes hashwes.c -lcrypto 20181001 20:26:52< sevu> ah, the other was wesbot_public, this is the nonpublic 20181001 20:30:36< psymin> okay it built, thanks :) 20181001 20:31:28< psymin> I'll look into using the bot later, after I do some "real" work related to my day job. 20181001 20:34:07<+wesdiscordbot> I should move all my private repos away from github 20181001 20:34:15<+wesdiscordbot> not sure how long they would remain there 20181001 20:36:44-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at] has joined #wesnoth 20181001 20:44:20-!- kitsunenokenja [~kitsunech@68.91.220.96] has joined #wesnoth 20181001 20:51:11<+wesdiscordbot> took a while to set up ssh git for windows 20181001 20:51:23< psymin> I'll bet 20181001 20:55:52<+wesdiscordbot> @Konrad2 wesnothian is not ours 20181001 21:12:36-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20181001 21:28:04<+wesdiscordbot> wesnothian is russian translation maintainer's 20181001 21:28:17<+wesdiscordbot> i.e. not ours 20181001 21:28:41<+wesdiscordbot> I wish he started submitting translations 20181001 21:31:51-!- kitsunenokenja [~kitsunech@68.91.220.96] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20181001 21:35:36<+wesdiscordbot> :GWfroggyPeepoDetective: 20181001 21:37:57<+wesdiscordbot> also, any chance there's a russian channel coming on this server? :thonk: 20181001 21:38:30<+wesdiscordbot> if you got ppl to talk on it sure 😛 20181001 21:39:06<+wesdiscordbot> :GWsetmyxPeepoWeird: 20181001 21:39:39<+wesdiscordbot> >checking other language channels level of activity >:thonk: 20181001 21:43:17< sevu> The activity in the German channel is mostly up during translation time before a release… and relatively quiet otherwise … though if you ping someone you mostly get an answer at some point 20181001 21:44:33< sevu> … though, the part with pinging has not really relevance for Discord… 20181001 22:22:48-!- hk238 [~kvirc@unaffiliated/hk238] has joined #wesnoth 20181001 22:23:05< hk238> DNS still not workign? :o 20181001 22:46:35-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20181001 23:01:48-!- psymin [~psymin@69.146.8.222] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20181001 23:21:38-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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