--- Log opened Tue Oct 23 00:00:51 2018 20181023 00:10:44-!- TC01 [~quassel@venus.arosser.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20181023 00:12:16-!- TC01 [~quassel@venus.arosser.com] has joined #wesnoth 20181023 00:23:32-!- celmin|away is now known as celticminstrel 20181023 00:28:36-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 20181023 00:41:49<+wesdiscordbot> https://youtube.com/watch?v=uxfoa23skHg 20181023 00:58:51-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20181023 01:29:31-!- hk238 [~kvirc@unaffiliated/hk238] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 5.0.0 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/] 20181023 01:33:30-!- gfgtdf [~gfgtdf@134.76.63.8] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20181023 01:34:48-!- kitsunenokenja [~kitsunech@68.91.220.96] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20181023 02:14:05<+wesdiscordbot> how do you play replays in wesnoth? 20181023 02:23:42< buhman> Joris: load them using the "Load" button on the main menu? 20181023 02:53:12-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has joined #wesnoth 20181023 03:33:10<+wesdiscordbot> ok 20181023 03:33:17<+wesdiscordbot> hey Konrad i watched your replay 20181023 03:33:31<+wesdiscordbot> i dont how the F you made it to round 17 20181023 03:33:40<+wesdiscordbot> you really do know how to trick the game's AI do you 20181023 03:33:48<+wesdiscordbot> i tried like 3 times and I still die at round 10 20181023 03:34:43<+wesdiscordbot> whatever i'm done with the South Guard i'm getting so frustrated with the whole thing i don't know if getting extra perks on the last level is really worth it :/ 20181023 04:25:33-!- celticminstrel is now known as celmin|sleep 20181023 05:16:53<+wesdiscordbot> hey im getting this error what do i do 20181023 05:16:53<+wesdiscordbot> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/504161262670839819/Screenshot_4.jpg 20181023 05:16:59<+wesdiscordbot> when i press the Load button i get that 20181023 05:17:52<+wesdiscordbot> Please report a bug in https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/issues 20181023 05:18:13<+wesdiscordbot> Attach the save file you're trying to load. It's in the game data directory: https://wiki.wesnoth.org/EditingWesnoth#The_game_data_directory 20181023 05:18:56<+wesdiscordbot> i get that error when i press the button 20181023 05:19:05<+wesdiscordbot> i don't even get a chance to play a saved file 20181023 05:20:54<+wesdiscordbot> Okay... in that case it has to be related to stuff that's loaded unconditionally from save files (such as leader data). 20181023 05:21:58<+wesdiscordbot> Try moving your saves out of the save directory until the problem stops happening. (I think you need to restart Wesnoth after moving each file.) 20181023 05:22:38<+wesdiscordbot> Also, the saves are in the user data directory: https://wiki.wesnoth.org/EditingWesnoth#The_user_data_directory Sorry, I mixed up the words. 20181023 05:23:04<+wesdiscordbot> ok 20181023 05:23:14<+wesdiscordbot> buggy game 😅 20181023 05:31:04<+wesdiscordbot> do you like anime 20181023 05:31:34<+wesdiscordbot> To some extent. I'm more interested in visual novels though. 20181023 05:33:48<+wesdiscordbot> For your problem, these two commits are most likely causes: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/4a2675a42c4750982fa0abfd3b35b0bea1ddc08d https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/14abecb2df9f94b4a4438156f9808596d223864b 20181023 05:34:25<+wesdiscordbot> I approved them both, so I have nobody to blame... 😔 20181023 05:37:36<+wesdiscordbot> its ok. let them be happy :3 20181023 05:37:56<+wesdiscordbot> ✌ 😁 20181023 05:38:45<+wesdiscordbot> oh wowzers i gotta go to sleep! good night everyone! 🎇 (one more week till Halloween! wooooo!!) 20181023 05:40:52<+wesdiscordbot> Okay, I think I figured it out. It's this commit: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/14abecb2df9f94b4a4438156f9808596d223864b 20181023 05:41:50<+wesdiscordbot> It attempts to check if the [modification] element exists. If not, it lets config::find_child() throw an exception and catches it. 20181023 05:42:57<+wesdiscordbot> The problem is that config::find_child() doesn't throw exceptions. It simply returns a reference to an invalid config object that throws an exception when the programmer attempts to access it. In line 399 in this case. 20181023 05:46:49<+wesdiscordbot> Ah, no, that's not it. The commit accesses the config object already in line 393, protected by the try-catch. 20181023 05:48:30<+wesdiscordbot> Hmm... I think the problem isn't in either of these commits after all. They are prepared for the possibility where the WML element doesn't exist, and I can't find anything wrong with code analysis. The bug is probably in some older code. 20181023 05:48:43<+wesdiscordbot> Having a save file that causes the problem would help a lot... 20181023 06:54:27-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20181023 07:09:37-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has joined #wesnoth 20181023 07:23:52-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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Does anyone know how to fix that? 20181023 14:04:09<+wesdiscordbot> :GWfroggyPepoSmug: 20181023 14:06:25<+wesdiscordbot> they work fine for me in the native client 20181023 14:06:32<+wesdiscordbot> and I'm on gentoo 20181023 14:06:52< hk238> ah yes it's only some of the icons that are not showing it might be a missing font 20181023 14:14:25-!- gfgtdf [~androirc@tmo-122-12.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20181023 14:18:35-!- gfgtdf [~androirc@ersc144.goemobile.de] has joined #wesnoth 20181023 14:44:12-!- TheJJ [~rofl@ipbcc06208.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20181023 14:46:21-!- TheJJ [~rofl@ipbcc06208.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #wesnoth 20181023 14:54:15-!- gfgtdf [~androirc@ersc144.goemobile.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20181023 14:54:45-!- gfgtdf [~androirc@ersc144.goemobile.de] has joined #wesnoth 20181023 15:14:22-!- gfgtdf [~androirc@ersc144.goemobile.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20181023 15:41:10-!- Haudegen [~quassel@212-186-77-29.static.upcbusiness.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20181023 16:53:26<+wesdiscordbot> hey how are these bots talking 20181023 16:53:29<+wesdiscordbot> they're magical! 20181023 16:55:10<+wesdiscordbot> The very last paragraph in #welcome mentions the IRC bridge. 20181023 17:14:09< Ravana_> Clarke's Third Law 20181023 17:21:32-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at] has joined #wesnoth 20181023 17:45:56<+wesdiscordbot> @Pentarctagon nice MLP avatar on github lol 20181023 17:57:49-!- claymore [~claymore@unaffiliated/claymore] has joined #wesnoth 20181023 19:23:02-!- gfgtdf [~androirc@tmo-122-12.customers.d1-online.com] has joined #wesnoth 20181023 20:06:47-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has joined #wesnoth 20181023 20:10:07-!- claymore [~claymore@unaffiliated/claymore] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20181023 20:14:34-!- gfgtdf [~androirc@tmo-122-12.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20181023 20:17:34-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20181023 20:19:24-!- kitsunenokenja [~kitsunech@68.91.220.96] has joined #wesnoth 20181023 20:55:11<+wesdiscordbot> @jyrkive Remember https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/e1bc036750301ae4b1453f064a96dad1c7af9559 ? The fix was only committed after 1.14.5 20181023 20:57:39-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 20181023 21:13:16-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at] has joined #wesnoth 20181023 21:24:29<+wesdiscordbot> Anyone have tips for the sewer level in the Rise of Wesnoth? 20181023 21:27:04-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has joined #wesnoth 20181023 21:27:48-!- gfgtdf [~androirc@134.76.63.8] has joined #wesnoth 20181023 21:30:33-!- kitsunenokenja [~kitsunech@68.91.220.96] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20181023 21:40:35-!- gfgtdf [~androirc@134.76.63.8] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20181023 21:40:55-!- gfgtdf [~androirc@134.76.63.8] has joined #wesnoth 20181023 22:00:16-!- gfgtdf [~androirc@134.76.63.8] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20181023 22:01:17-!- gfgtdf [~androirc@134.76.63.8] has joined #wesnoth 20181023 22:07:43-!- gfgtdf [~androirc@134.76.63.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20181023 22:21:23-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20181023 22:22:19-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20181023 22:31:28<+wesdiscordbot> hey sorry about that mate but i haven't played that campaign yet 😅 20181023 22:32:00<+wesdiscordbot> @shadowm so how come they use IRC cause discord looks nicer 🤔 20181023 22:33:20<+wesdiscordbot> @Joris habit, perhaps. 20181023 22:34:00<+wesdiscordbot> I never actually used IRC, but I imagine it also takes less memory, that might be a reason too. 20181023 22:37:02<+wesdiscordbot> Yes, it for sure can eat a lot of memory 20181023 22:38:22<+wesdiscordbot> Also because a lot of people have been on irc for years, and that’s where all their friends are. Trying to move the ten to fifty friends of yours all over to discord, especially when some of them don’t want too, sound alike a pain in the ass 20181023 22:39:58<+wesdiscordbot> Also discord is controlled by single company, it's a strategic liability 20181023 22:42:52<+wesdiscordbot> ewww IRC looks like 1990s :/ 20181023 22:42:55<+wesdiscordbot> Only way we can have single company services if they all interconnect via open protocols 20181023 22:43:28<+wesdiscordbot> I see interconnect bots as precursor to such protocols 20181023 22:44:10<+wesdiscordbot> hey loony do you speak any cool languages? 🙂 20181023 22:44:40<+wesdiscordbot> That depends on what is cool at this moment 20181023 22:45:01<+wesdiscordbot> well whatever you speak that's alright 20181023 22:45:21<+wesdiscordbot> you think like a coder i like that! haha 20181023 22:46:37<+wesdiscordbot> :3 20181023 22:47:11<+wesdiscordbot> are you québécois 20181023 22:50:31<+wesdiscordbot> wha? 20181023 23:03:01<+wesdiscordbot> He's from Russia I'm pretty sure 20181023 23:03:36<+wesdiscordbot> (For those who don't know québécois is used to refer to people from Quebec, Canda) 20181023 23:06:40<+wesdiscordbot> Yes, I'm from russia 20181023 23:11:02<+wesdiscordbot> I'm currently learning Russian. :P It's quite a challenge! 20181023 23:12:38<+wesdiscordbot> And what's the most challenging part? 20181023 23:12:40-!- gfgtdf [~gfgtdf@134.76.63.8] has joined #wesnoth 20181023 23:18:40-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20181023 23:38:13<+wesdiscordbot> hey i am learning russian too! 20181023 23:38:22<+wesdiscordbot> i am also learning German with Bitron :3 20181023 23:41:11<+wesdiscordbot> Hey anyone wanna play a multiplayer match eventually? 20181023 23:41:39<+wesdiscordbot> depends on how eventually, I'd imagine. 20181023 23:41:42<+wesdiscordbot> If you are, hit me up (I promise not to play dwarves) 20181023 23:41:49<+wesdiscordbot> hey do you watch mlp pent 20181023 23:42:01<+wesdiscordbot> yep 20181023 23:42:12<+wesdiscordbot> (the avatar should give it away) 20181023 23:42:45<+wesdiscordbot> which is your favorite character in the whole show? a lot of people like Chrysalis have you noticed that? :p 20181023 23:42:56<+wesdiscordbot> What factions do you guys like the most 20181023 23:43:01<+wesdiscordbot> In wesnoth 20181023 23:43:10<+wesdiscordbot> In terms of troops 20181023 23:43:51<+wesdiscordbot> @Guratz i love the Loyalists 😅 20181023 23:43:56<+wesdiscordbot> @Joris Discord and Luna. Discord particularly since he has the same voice actor as Q from Star Trek: The Next Generation. 20181023 23:44:07<+wesdiscordbot> What are the loyalists? 20181023 23:44:29<+wesdiscordbot> the Loyalists are the human guys usually with lots of body armor 20181023 23:44:54<+wesdiscordbot> You mean heavy infantrymen? 20181023 23:44:59<+wesdiscordbot> Or 20181023 23:45:05<+wesdiscordbot> Royal guards? 20181023 23:45:15<+wesdiscordbot> i love the Sergeant, Lieutenant and the Brigadier General units in the Loyalists 20181023 23:45:30<+wesdiscordbot> Oh yeah 20181023 23:45:44<+wesdiscordbot> @Pentarctagon oh that's really interesting you like Discord i didn't expect that at all :p 20181023 23:45:58<+wesdiscordbot> I think the lieutenant is my favorite unit aesthetic wise 20181023 23:46:03<+wesdiscordbot> i KNOW 20181023 23:46:08<+wesdiscordbot> i love the Lieutenant 20181023 23:46:14<+wesdiscordbot> he's my fav fav char in the game 20181023 23:46:36<+wesdiscordbot> Well the lieutenant is a class not just 1 person 20181023 23:47:24<+wesdiscordbot> yea honestly i always like the human faction the most 20181023 23:47:35<+wesdiscordbot> my second favorite are the Elvish 20181023 23:47:40<+wesdiscordbot> 😄 20181023 23:48:01<+wesdiscordbot> heals and slows are wonderful things 20181023 23:48:51<+wesdiscordbot> I think of the human factions as like, lawful humans, secondary units (mages, heavy infantrymen, etc) and chaotic units 20181023 23:49:21<+wesdiscordbot> I’d consider chaotic and lawful humans different factions 20181023 23:49:26<+wesdiscordbot> i gotta agree with Pent here. the slows especially are so strategically vital in the game 20181023 23:49:30<+wesdiscordbot> especially against the Undead 20181023 23:53:31<+wesdiscordbot> Yeah true 20181023 23:53:54<+wesdiscordbot> The undead troop tree isn’t bad either 20181023 23:54:20<+wesdiscordbot> They have pretty good melee units 20181023 23:54:21<+wesdiscordbot> i always struggle with the undead they are just super tough 20181023 23:54:35<+wesdiscordbot> Yeah true 20181023 23:55:09<+wesdiscordbot> You can’t really hurt their melee units a lot with bowmen 20181023 23:55:33<+wesdiscordbot> I think their tier 1 bowmen are pretty useless though 20181023 23:55:35<+wesdiscordbot> nah man bowmen are pretty useless against them 20181023 23:55:45<+wesdiscordbot> i especially hate those annoying ghost fighters 20181023 23:55:50<+wesdiscordbot> they are so feisty 20181023 23:56:07<+wesdiscordbot> You can 1 shot them with horsemen 20181023 23:56:31<+wesdiscordbot> oh so horsemen are good against them eh? 20181023 23:56:36<+wesdiscordbot> Yeah 20181023 23:56:41<+wesdiscordbot> Them and mages 20181023 23:57:09<+wesdiscordbot> Mages and horsemen are good vs low hp high evasion units 20181023 23:57:30<+wesdiscordbot> Due to the amount of damage they bring to the table 20181023 23:58:27<+wesdiscordbot> @Pentarctagon has there ever been a 4 v 4 wesnoth multiplayer battle? 20181023 23:59:06<+wesdiscordbot> i've no idea on that actually i'm mostly here to play the campaigns :p 20181023 23:59:36<+wesdiscordbot> Which campaign you playing atm? 20181023 23:59:55<+wesdiscordbot> well i was playing The South Guard actually --- Log closed Wed Oct 24 00:00:12 2018