--- Log opened Fri Oct 26 00:00:44 2018 20181026 00:14:22-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz…] 20181026 08:12:52-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20181026 09:15:09<+wesdiscordbot> isar is fast caz nubs love to rush nubs or waste their units for nothing vs slightly better players kappa 20181026 09:15:44<+wesdiscordbot> I played several really long and campy isar games with leo ages before 20181026 09:15:59<+wesdiscordbot> map is full of exploits to be unleashed 20181026 09:16:26<+wesdiscordbot> like you bank fighters and just keep them not dying till jaw breaking numbers 20181026 09:16:59<+wesdiscordbot> but meh no1 gonna listen to this...isar is simply a broken map 20181026 09:17:07<+wesdiscordbot> 😄 20181026 10:25:47-!- TheJJ [~rofl@ipbcc06208.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20181026 11:39:07-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at] has joined #wesnoth 20181026 12:58:11-!- celmin|sleep is now known as celmin|away 20181026 13:48:54-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has joined #wesnoth 20181026 14:06:02-!- smiley` [~smiley@115.84.143.60] has joined #wesnoth 20181026 14:27:13-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has quit [Quit: So long and thanks for all the fish.] 20181026 15:00:56<+wesdiscordbot> Hello! 🙂 20181026 15:22:26<+wesdiscordbot> hi 20181026 15:57:08-!- smiley` [~smiley@115.84.143.60] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20181026 15:59:16-!- hk238 [~kvirc@unaffiliated/hk238] has joined #wesnoth 20181026 15:59:28-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has joined #wesnoth 20181026 16:15:07-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20181026 16:16:14-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has joined #wesnoth 20181026 16:25:55-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20181026 16:58:41<+wesdiscordbot> @shadowm I think this is important for people to see @Mark#3291 I think people need to see this Discord has implemented a new Arbitration clause, and you've got 30 days to opt out. DO NOT PROCRASTINATE DOING THIS For those who aren't aware, an arbitration clause revokes your right to trial in a court of law, meaning you CANNOT take any legal action against Discord if they were to do something such as leak your data. 20181026 16:58:42<+wesdiscordbot> If you do not opt out, you're waiving your legal rights. You have 30 days to email arbitration-opt-out@discord.com to opt out, you absolutely must do this if you care about having rights. If you're not sure what to say, here's an example email: https://i.lolisare.life/HzLNm.png (make sure you send the email from the email account your discord account is linked to) https://discordapp.com/terms 20181026 16:58:42<+wesdiscordbot> https://www.reddit.com/r/discordapp/comments/9p5uyp/latest_tos_update_revokes_your_right_to_sue/ Discord Discord Terms of Service This is the Discord ToS meta description. Wow, helpful meta description Discord. Thanks! reddit r/discordapp - Latest ToS update revokes your right to sue Discord. 1,659 votes and 715 comments so far on Reddit Discord Discord Terms of Service This is the Discord ToS meta description. Wow, helpful meta 20181026 16:58:43<+wesdiscordbot> description Discord. Thanks! reddit r/discordapp - Latest ToS update revokes your right to sue Discord. 4,055 votes and 1,977 comments so far on Reddit 20181026 16:59:33<+wesdiscordbot> This is for Americans primarily but I mean, we're all on Discord here, so I see it as being relevant, and I'm sure some people here would maybe like to know about this 20181026 17:00:01<+wesdiscordbot> in case anyone is wondering, discord's official stance is "we don't want to get fakely sued, since this happens more and more often" 20181026 17:01:49<+wesdiscordbot> pretty sure that arbitration clause specifically waivers the right to a class action lawsuit 20181026 17:02:23<+wesdiscordbot> I'm also pretty sure it's 90 days, not 30 20181026 17:03:47<+wesdiscordbot> The linked post says that the arbitration clause isn't enforceable in the EU, so European Discord users don't need to do anything. 20181026 17:03:53<+wesdiscordbot> ^ 20181026 17:05:16<+wesdiscordbot> @jyrkive Ty for telling us. 20181026 17:07:06<+wesdiscordbot> Yeah, I said that, no need for EU users to do anything, it's for American users 20181026 17:07:18<+wesdiscordbot> But it is important I'm fairly certain of that to us 20181026 17:11:03<+wesdiscordbot> The 30 (90) days start counting once a user creates a discord account? 20181026 17:11:51<+wesdiscordbot> It started in October 18. 20181026 17:15:51<+wesdiscordbot> Yes, but what if someone creates their first discord account tomorrow? 20181026 17:16:14<+wesdiscordbot> I think that in this case the user can't opt out of arbitration. 20181026 17:16:30<+wesdiscordbot> Welp. 20181026 17:17:33<+wesdiscordbot> Because it's then part of the Terms of Service? 20181026 17:18:29<+wesdiscordbot> Yes. As a general rule, users of services like Discord can object to changes of the Terms of Service, but all new users have to accept all terms when they register. 20181026 17:45:48<+wesdiscordbot> well, that's all pretty disappointing :/ 20181026 18:25:27<+wesdiscordbot> Also that won’t actually hold up in a court. Most terms and conditions don’t 20181026 18:27:40<+wesdiscordbot> Arbitration clauses are believed to be enforceable in the USA. 20181026 18:27:41<+wesdiscordbot> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbitration_clause 20181026 18:28:04<+wesdiscordbot> "In the United States, the federal government has expressed a policy of support of arbitration clauses, because they reduce the burden on court systems to resolve disputes. This support is found in the Federal Arbitration Act, which permits compulsory and binding arbitration, under which parties give up the right to appeal an arbitrator's decision to a court. In Prima Paint Corp. v. Flood & Conklin Mfg. Co., the U.S. Supreme 20181026 18:28:05<+wesdiscordbot> Court established the "separability principle", under which enforceability of a contract must be challenged in arbitration before any court action, unless the arbitration clause itself has been challenged." 20181026 18:34:16<+wesdiscordbot> Oh, derp 20181026 18:34:40<+wesdiscordbot> Should probably read all of what people say before commenting 20181026 18:36:09<+wesdiscordbot> Didn’t see that it was the arbitration thing. I’ve just read about some companies who just straight up say you can’t sue us if you buy/use our product 20181026 19:05:53-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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