--- Log opened Sun Dec 30 00:00:11 2018 20181230 00:27:37-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has joined #wesnoth 20181230 00:32:34< celticminstrel> ...WTH are you trying to imply, Rio. 20181230 00:40:02<+wesdiscordbot> Is there any chance that the Sea Serpent event in TRoW - Sc 14 isn't working properly? 20181230 00:40:45<+wesdiscordbot> Or rather is anyone aware of this? 20181230 00:41:17< celticminstrel> (Also just FTR, if the supposed successor is an idiot, then by orc rules they're not actually the successor.) 20181230 00:44:08<+wesdiscordbot> (Meritocrazy ftw) 20181230 00:44:17< celticminstrel> Not really. 20181230 00:44:47<+wesdiscordbot> No? 😦 20181230 00:44:49< celticminstrel> More like the strongest orc rules. 20181230 00:45:02< celticminstrel> Meritocracy would be more about skill rather than strength. 20181230 00:45:23<+wesdiscordbot> What if they measure your skill at surviving? 20181230 00:45:54< celticminstrel> I mean, sure you can call strength a sort of skill, but it's not the skill that makes you a good leader. 20181230 00:46:17<+wesdiscordbot> I'm shocked! 20181230 00:46:21<+wesdiscordbot> Well, not that shocked. 20181230 00:48:15<+wesdiscordbot> Anyone here who knows about the Sea Serpent event in TRoW in detail? I'd like to be sure that it isn't working before I go and report it. 20181230 01:04:14<+wesdiscordbot> Whatever. 20181230 01:04:48< celticminstrel> Just FTR, I know nothing about it. 20181230 01:14:30-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20181230 03:25:41-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 20181230 03:33:55-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has joined #wesnoth 20181230 05:39:44-!- gfgtdf [~androirc@x4d00748a.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #wesnoth 20181230 05:41:01-!- gfgtdf [~androirc@x4d00748a.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Client Quit] 20181230 05:47:13-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 20181230 08:23:03-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20181230 08:34:27-!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20181230 08:55:37<+wesdiscordbot> celticminstrel: The chief can be strong and charismatic, but not good at actually managing a horde 20181230 09:26:49-!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has joined #wesnoth 20181230 10:04:18-!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20181230 10:11:41-!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has joined #wesnoth 20181230 11:51:36-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at] has joined #wesnoth 20181230 12:18:34<+wesdiscordbot> Is there a betting pool whether 1.15 or 1.14.6 will be released first? :thonk: 20181230 12:30:55-!- claymore [~claymore@unaffiliated/claymore] has joined #wesnoth 20181230 15:27:26< celticminstrel> Pfft. 20181230 16:05:24-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has joined #wesnoth 20181230 16:46:03-!- Slacer [~yamit@16.red-79-157-192.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has joined #wesnoth 20181230 19:13:57-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 20181230 19:17:53-!- Narrat [~Narrat@p5DCC6370.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20181230 19:19:35-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has joined #wesnoth 20181230 19:36:01-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20181230 20:38:03-!- Haudegen [~quassel@217-149-171-71.nat.highway.telekom.at] has joined #wesnoth 20181230 20:59:22<+wesdiscordbot> lI am confused, it would be 1.14.6.. no? Sorry if that sounds rude, i am just confused as to how the version numbers work then 20181230 20:59:27<+wesdiscordbot> also 20181230 20:59:38<+wesdiscordbot> Only one of them will come and not both, right? 20181230 21:00:11<+wesdiscordbot> @Konrad2 Thanks in advance! 20181230 21:02:24< celticminstrel> @Crimson_Conure - Assuming we continue the prior convention with Wesnoth versions, 1.15.x is basically like 1.16.x beta, while 1.14.x is the stable series. So, 1.14.x doesn't get a whole lot of new things, and 1.15.x is developed in parallel with the stable series. 20181230 21:02:45<+wesdiscordbot> Ohhh I see 20181230 21:02:55< celticminstrel> (Note that "new things" here is more from a campaign developer's perspective, not a player's.) 20181230 21:03:05<+wesdiscordbot> so even numbers are stable 20181230 21:03:10<+wesdiscordbot> odd numbers are development 20181230 21:03:14<+wesdiscordbot> ? 20181230 21:03:14< celticminstrel> Basically, yeah. 20181230 21:03:25<+wesdiscordbot> huh, thats good to know 20181230 21:03:28< celticminstrel> Personally I think it's a bit weird, but at least there's a logic to it, I guess. 20181230 21:03:52<+wesdiscordbot> well but not the decimals right? 20181230 21:03:59< celticminstrel> There was some talk of changing that after 1.14.x (so that 1.15.x becomes a stable series too), but there's a lack of momentum on actually making it happen. 20181230 21:04:03<+wesdiscordbot> so 1.14.5 is still stable? 20181230 21:04:09<+wesdiscordbot> ah 20181230 21:04:17< celticminstrel> @Crimson_Conure - Correct, this is just about the middle number. 20181230 21:04:23<+wesdiscordbot> got it :) 20181230 21:04:26< celticminstrel> (The first number is basically meaningless now.) 20181230 21:04:37<+wesdiscordbot> right 20181230 21:05:29< celticminstrel> (The general thought - which I personally don't agree with - is that you'd need a really huge major change to roll over to 2.0, which means that Wesnoth's incremental development basically prevents it from ever happening.) 20181230 21:07:34 * celticminstrel restarting, brb 20181230 21:07:51-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Quit: KABOOM! It seems that I have exploded. Please wait while I reinstall the universe.] 20181230 21:10:22-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has joined #wesnoth 20181230 21:11:02< celticminstrel> back 20181230 21:11:47<+wesdiscordbot> I'm placing my bet on 1.14.6 👀 20181230 21:12:00< celticminstrel> Yeah, I think 1.14.6 is more likely to come first. 20181230 21:12:17< celticminstrel> Most people I've spoken to about this didn't think 1.15.0 has enough new things to be worth releasing yet. 20181230 21:12:36< celticminstrel> Maybe it'll come out once sigurd is finished adding a new drake campaign? I dunno. 20181230 21:13:31<+wesdiscordbot> that also could just go in the 1.14 series 20181230 21:13:49< celticminstrel> Possibly. 20181230 21:14:52< celticminstrel> I also had a new random map I was going to add (a cave map), but that alone probably isn't enough to make a 1.15.0 release worthwhile. 20181230 21:15:25< celticminstrel> I suspect not many people play on the random maps after all. 20181230 21:15:46< celticminstrel> (FTR, though it's a cave map, the main terrain is dirt, ie flat) 20181230 21:16:46<+wesdiscordbot> like 20181230 21:16:48<+wesdiscordbot> a premade map? 20181230 21:16:50<+wesdiscordbot> for MP? 20181230 21:16:51< celticminstrel> There's a fair number of new API features for campaign developers, but those aren't really very "glamorous" if that makes sense. 20181230 21:16:58< celticminstrel> @Yumi - A random map scenario. 20181230 21:17:11< celticminstrel> Like the other three or four that are already included. 20181230 21:18:01< celticminstrel> I guess one of the reasons not many people play on them is because they're not balanced at all, and balancing them is probably next to impossible. 20181230 21:18:46< celticminstrel> I kinda like random maps though (which is why sigurd's pack is one of the few addons I have installed). 20181230 21:18:46<+wesdiscordbot> huh okay 20181230 21:20:32<+wesdiscordbot> 2.0, if it happens, would be something like the previous wesnoth2 concept or the current project haldric attempt. 20181230 21:21:01<+wesdiscordbot> at least given how things are currently 20181230 21:25:52-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has quit [Quit: mattsc] 20181230 21:27:22-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has joined #wesnoth 20181230 21:39:31<+wesdiscordbot> isnt betting and transactions against the discord TOS 20181230 21:40:33< celticminstrel> I'm sure they'd have no objection to "betting without stakes" at the very least. That's no different from speculation. 20181230 21:40:51<+wesdiscordbot> I see 20181230 21:43:49< celticminstrel> Might have to restart again, my Finder and Dock are both broken now. :( 20181230 21:44:20< celticminstrel> Full restart this time. not just IRC. 20181230 21:53:17-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Quit: KABOOM! It seems that I have exploded. Please wait while I reinstall the universe.] 20181230 21:54:16-!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20181230 21:57:18-!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has joined #wesnoth 20181230 22:02:24<+wesdiscordbot> I just realised that ghouls do not have any agreed-on origin 20181230 22:03:08<+wesdiscordbot> SotA ghouls are experiments, DM ghouls are cursed cannibals, DotD ghouls are corrupted criminals 20181230 22:05:39-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has joined #wesnoth 20181230 22:05:52<+wesdiscordbot> = just chaotic souls binded into bodies. 20181230 22:08:26<+wesdiscordbot> I wonder if it takes a really wicked soul to make one 20181230 22:09:09<+wesdiscordbot> Maybe there is more than one way to create them? 20181230 22:09:23<+wesdiscordbot> What's DotD again? 20181230 22:10:43< zookeeper> he meant DiD 20181230 22:11:43< zookeeper> (and personally i've never taken darken volk's words in that scenario literally) 20181230 22:13:11< celticminstrel> ^bound 20181230 22:13:26< celticminstrel> (ie binded -> bound) 20181230 22:46:01-!- claymore [~claymore@unaffiliated/claymore] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20181230 23:03:16-!- Slacer [~yamit@16.red-79-157-192.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20181230 23:14:52<+wesdiscordbot> Darken Volk just wants to convince Malin that his doing is justified. So it's hard to trust his words. 20181230 23:20:22-!- Haudegen [~quassel@217-149-171-71.nat.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20181230 23:31:37<+wesdiscordbot> i thought Darken just simply wanted to be done with Malin after getting the book 20181230 23:31:48-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20181230 23:33:40-!- Narrat [~Narrat@p5DCC6370.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance.] 20181230 23:45:03<+wesdiscordbot> Because Malin helped him accomplish what he had raised him for. --- Log closed Mon Dec 31 00:00:12 2018