--- Log opened Fri Jan 25 00:00:19 2019 20190125 00:36:32-!- celmin|away is now known as celticminstrel 20190125 01:07:27-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20190125 01:56:50-!- irker289 [~irker@wesnoth/umc-dev/bot/shikadibot] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190125 01:56:50< irker289> wesnoth/wesnoth:1.14 Steve Cotton 266749a212 LoW S22: Single-player objectives should AppVeyor: 1/4 builds failed 20190125 01:56:50< irker289> Details vs2015/Release: https://ci.appveyor.com/project/wesnoth/wesnoth-7lnpw/builds/21869402 20190125 04:57:08-!- irker289 [~irker@wesnoth/umc-dev/bot/shikadibot] has quit [Quit: transmission timeout] 20190125 05:10:47-!- celticminstrel is now known as celmin|sleep 20190125 08:35:02< Soliton> @Vultraz i7-3770 quad core, 32GB ram, 2x3TB disks 20190125 08:36:01<+wesdiscordbot> soliton: you wouldn't happen to know how much it costs us? 20190125 08:36:25< Soliton> 50€ 20190125 08:39:16<+wesdiscordbot> a month? 20190125 08:45:36< Soliton> yes. 20190125 08:46:25<+wesdiscordbot> You're kidding 20190125 08:46:28<+wesdiscordbot> That cheap?? 20190125 09:05:50< Soliton> well, i wouldn't call it that cheap but yes. it seems like current offers are a bit better hardware wise and perhaps cheaper though. 20190125 09:06:34< Soliton> don't have much time right now though. was just a quick look. 20190125 09:15:44<+wesdiscordbot> well that's way cheaper than anything we can get with Azure 20190125 09:15:49<+wesdiscordbot> so I guess we have a good deal 20190125 10:04:03<+wesdiscordbot> Not really "way cheaper". 20190125 10:04:30<+wesdiscordbot> Azure E4s V3 with three years reserved costs about 70 euro per month. 20190125 10:04:39<+wesdiscordbot> Four cores, 32 gigabytes of memory. 20190125 10:21:34<+wesdiscordbot> I wish they would clarify what they mean by "managed OS disk" and "storage transaction" fees. 20190125 10:21:37<+wesdiscordbot> (Azure) 20190125 10:22:31<+wesdiscordbot> Those managed disks are additional disks, in case the system OS disk itself isn't enough. 20190125 10:23:01<+wesdiscordbot> AFAIK, "storage transaction" fees only apply if their higher-level services (such as preconfigured databases) are used. 20190125 10:26:00<+wesdiscordbot> Well, if you select the E4s V3 in their pricing calculator they automatically factor in the cost of 100,000 transaction units (10k transactions each unit, I think?) 20190125 12:32:28-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190125 12:50:38-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20190125 13:27:20<+wesdiscordbot> In Scott Meyers Modern C++. Item 5: Prefer "auto" to explicit type declarations. Item 6: Use the explicitly typed initializer idiom when auto deduces undesired types. auto has some benefits. auto variables must be initialized, are generally immune to type mismatches, can ease the process of refactoring, and typically less typing. 20190125 13:28:47<+wesdiscordbot> I think that advice is meant for new C++ codebases, not existing ones. 20190125 13:29:31<+wesdiscordbot> My project at work, written in C#, follows Microsoft's similar guideline: "var" is used instead of explicit type declarations whenever the type is obvious from the right-hand side. 20190125 13:30:24<+wesdiscordbot> i think more in the way, if you refactor code or writes new code, you should go for the modern c++ 20190125 13:30:41<+wesdiscordbot> Then the codebase would end up as a mix of old and new... 20190125 13:31:54<+wesdiscordbot> if you allow c++11 or c++14, you will have a mix. 20190125 13:32:44<+wesdiscordbot> Of course. And it does make sense for things where the new stuff has a big benefit, such as unique_ptr. 20190125 13:33:09<+wesdiscordbot> But less so when it's a matter of style, like in the case of auto. 20190125 13:34:12<+wesdiscordbot> "Replace exceptionally long type declarations with auto" is a reasonable rule for existing C++ codebases, but "use auto whenever the type is obvious" doesn't win much and results in a mix of different coding styles. 20190125 13:34:55<+wesdiscordbot> But how many bugs exists because variables are uninitialized, and the refactor part is also a big benefit 20190125 13:37:22<+wesdiscordbot> Likely not many. Uninitialized variables are a rather rare mistake, especially given that we already follow the "declare variables as late as possible" practice. 20190125 13:55:11< celmin|sleep> They're also less of an issue when you're working with classes that have constructors. 20190125 13:55:17-!- celmin|sleep is now known as celmin|away 20190125 18:47:53-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190125 19:00:34-!- stikonas_ [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190125 19:03:06-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20190125 19:40:01-!- stikonas_ [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20190125 19:47:39-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190125 21:38:04-!- ToBeCloud is now known as PermanentFreedom 20190125 21:38:16-!- PermanentFreedom is now known as ToBeFree 20190125 21:40:54<+wesdiscordbot> anyone have any comments on #3886 or #3887 ? 20190125 21:41:08<+wesdiscordbot> otherwise I"m looking to merge them in a day or two 20190125 22:29:26-!- irker867 [~irker@wesnoth/umc-dev/bot/shikadibot] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190125 22:29:26< irker867> wesnoth: Steve Cotton wesnoth:1.14 185561cec72b / data/campaigns/Legend_of_Wesmere/scenarios/chapter5/22_Northern_Battle.cfg: LoW S22: Single-player objectives should include Cleodil surviving https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/185561cec72b058b53ebd013ce0dfba45ccf0bc6 20190125 22:30:31-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20190125 22:32:05-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190125 22:38:01-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20190125 22:39:07-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190125 22:43:01<+wesdiscordbot> @Yumi ^ 😄 20190125 22:43:36<+wesdiscordbot> :< 20190125 22:43:58<+wesdiscordbot> C: 20190125 22:44:10<+wesdiscordbot> :[ 20190125 23:11:49-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20190125 23:12:08-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev --- Log closed Sat Jan 26 00:00:21 2019