--- Log opened Wed Jan 16 00:00:42 2019 20190116 01:05:23-!- celmin|away is now known as celticminstrel 20190116 04:54:21-!- celticminstrel is now known as celmin|sleep 20190116 07:34:20-!- celmin|sleep [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20190116 07:38:03-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20190116 07:41:15-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20190116 13:24:04<+wesdiscordbot> Is the Trunk Add-on Server down again? 20190116 13:24:23<+wesdiscordbot> Can't upload anything for playtesting there, for some reason 20190116 13:24:36-!- celticminstrel is now known as celmin|away 20190116 13:24:37<+wesdiscordbot> Used to work a year ago, so did I miss anything? 20190116 13:51:05<+wesdiscordbot> I can connect and list addons, didn't try uploading 20190116 13:51:09<+wesdiscordbot> do you get an error? 20190116 14:02:20<+wesdiscordbot> If I knew how to code 20190116 14:02:25<+wesdiscordbot> I'd make a randomizer mod 20190116 14:02:29<+wesdiscordbot> That'd be hilariously stupid 20190116 14:11:35<+wesdiscordbot> a mod that randomizes what? 20190116 14:12:23<+wesdiscordbot> (I wrote one such mod) 20190116 14:13:26<+wesdiscordbot> Well 20190116 14:13:28<+wesdiscordbot> Dpeends 20190116 14:13:29<+wesdiscordbot> Depends 20190116 14:13:43<+wesdiscordbot> In my stupid daydreams I thought of randomizing EXP requirements to level up 20190116 14:13:46<+wesdiscordbot> Damage 20190116 14:13:48<+wesdiscordbot> Weapon types 20190116 14:13:53<+wesdiscordbot> The very enemy 20190116 14:14:06<+wesdiscordbot> God knows what more, maybe even the terrain bonuses 20190116 14:14:10<+wesdiscordbot> And portraits 20190116 14:14:27<+wesdiscordbot> because imagining Konrad with an Ancient Lich portrait always made me giggle 20190116 14:14:43<+wesdiscordbot> Though I have no idea if it's possible 20190116 14:14:48<+wesdiscordbot> I'm not a coder 20190116 15:45:07< Soliton> @knyghtmare you uploaded successfully. do you use wesnoth to list what's on the addon server? 20190116 15:53:43<+wesdiscordbot> @Smiley J. Pajamas The unit stats are very carefully balanced against each other so they make sense. You could randomize them but I'm not sure it would be fun to play. 20190116 15:54:04<+wesdiscordbot> Randomizing portraits should be easy, a couple of lines of lua 20190116 15:55:30<+wesdiscordbot> I mean 20190116 15:55:36<+wesdiscordbot> It could make things impossible 20190116 15:55:46<+wesdiscordbot> Or could also make a god goblin 20190116 15:55:49<+wesdiscordbot> Who knows 20190116 15:56:17<+wesdiscordbot> Goblins are good example actually 20190116 15:56:35<+wesdiscordbot> a lvl0 unit with 14x4 magical attack and 100HP would be ridiculously unbalanced 20190116 15:56:42<+wesdiscordbot> because enemies won't get any XP from fighting it 20190116 15:58:01<+wesdiscordbot> do you want this for SP or MP ? 20190116 15:58:48<+wesdiscordbot> SP 20190116 15:58:56<+wesdiscordbot> I don't think MP would be 20190116 15:58:58<+wesdiscordbot> good on that 20190116 15:59:11<+wesdiscordbot> Partly because of that 20190116 15:59:21<+wesdiscordbot> If it's SP, there's a chance only ONE party won't have fun 20190116 15:59:37<+wesdiscordbot> If it's MP, then the chance of one party not having fun doubles 20190116 15:59:39<+wesdiscordbot> right? 20190116 16:05:41<+wesdiscordbot> in mp one side is always gonna get rekt with some ridicolous combo 20190116 16:05:47<+wesdiscordbot> so yeh 20190116 16:06:50<+wesdiscordbot> Imagine the creation of a Uber Haxor God Ruffian 20190116 16:06:59<+wesdiscordbot> With a 24x5 Hitting Club 20190116 16:07:00<+wesdiscordbot> kek 20190116 16:25:00<+wesdiscordbot> don't really mind that so long as it has, like, 1HP 20190116 16:25:14<+wesdiscordbot> and 10% terrain defense 20190116 16:25:53<+wesdiscordbot> Uber Haxor God Ruffian with 50% resistances, 80 HP and 24x5 Hitting Club 20190116 16:25:54<+wesdiscordbot> Lel 20190116 16:26:11<+wesdiscordbot> 24x5 is about lvl6 20190116 16:26:17<+wesdiscordbot> Randomizer baybee 20190116 16:26:23<+wesdiscordbot> should cost 110GP or so 20190116 16:27:00< Ravana> unit of limited range is easy to counter 20190116 16:27:31<+wesdiscordbot> "limited range" ? 20190116 16:27:46< Ravana> lacking at least one of ranged and melee 20190116 16:27:53<+wesdiscordbot> ah, sure 20190116 16:28:05<+wesdiscordbot> there's a reason all my AOI playthroughs have marksmen 😃 20190116 16:28:41<+wesdiscordbot> Hmm, I wonder if we should make Elvish Lady recruitable in MP 20190116 16:28:56<+wesdiscordbot> 8GP for a ZoC-only unit... 20190116 16:30:36< Ravana> it would not be used outside of puzzle scenarios 20190116 16:35:20<+wesdiscordbot> still trying to think of situation where she'd be useful 20190116 16:35:38<+wesdiscordbot> for one, a scenario with Elvish Lady leader would be interesting 20190116 16:48:59<+wesdiscordbot> I can't see how on earth a normal scenario with a playable living dummy would be interesting 20190116 17:38:59<+wesdiscordbot> imagine HttT's Home of the North Elves if Konrad couldn't attack 20190116 18:31:33<+wesdiscordbot> SoF S1 is a escort mission if that's what you mean 20190116 18:45:37<+wesdiscordbot> yes, that's one way in which a no attacks unit could be useful. 20190116 18:46:06<+wesdiscordbot> Or I suppose it could be given some ability (heals, leadership, whatever)... 20190116 18:50:05< Ravana> fleshpool is unit that is healer without attacks 20190116 22:22:45<+wesdiscordbot> Hmm, I uploaded successfully....why didn't they appear in the list of add-ons? 20190116 22:24:26<+wesdiscordbot> @Soliton I viewed the testing instance from both the client and browser. Browser shows no add-ons and client shows me only add-ons I can publish and not delete. If something was uploaded, I should be able to remove it, right? 20190116 22:26:12<+wesdiscordbot> Is the trunk add-on server still using "add-ons.wesnoth.org:15004" as the access address? Been using that since 2017, so correct an old-timer if there were any changes. 20190116 22:41:54<+wesdiscordbot> It is 15004 20190116 22:43:34<+wesdiscordbot> Then I still don't see why my uploaded add-ons wont show up on the add-on lists.. :\ 20190116 22:45:17<+wesdiscordbot> Give me a few minutes 20190116 22:55:31<+wesdiscordbot> Okay, so I can tell you that something is broken on the server, but I can't tell you exactly when it will be fixed 20190116 22:55:50<+wesdiscordbot> People shouldn't be relying on the "trunk" instance for content delivery in any case since it's primarily a testbed for us 20190116 23:00:00-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20190116 23:01:25<+wesdiscordbot> Ha! So, the server was bugged! Guess I will just add the last two levels and make the release for 1.14 when I am able to. 20190116 23:33:03<+wesdiscordbot> shadowm has identified the problem (see #development) 20190116 23:44:10<+wesdiscordbot> @knyghtmare Fixed 20190116 23:45:01<+wesdiscordbot> Any add-ons you uploaded are at the version you'd expect, the issue affected the add-ons list retrieval only and not uploads 20190116 23:55:04<+wesdiscordbot> @shadowm Thank you! --- Log closed Thu Jan 17 00:00:34 2019