--- Log opened Fri Jan 04 00:00:43 2019 20190104 00:55:29-!- celmin|away is now known as celticminstrel 20190104 01:04:51-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20190104 01:13:34-!- Narrat [~Narrat@p5DCC6CC9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance.] 20190104 02:48:15<+wesdiscordbot> I shouldn't really answer since its for jyrkive + i dont know the answer, but well wired gaming mice are way better and more reliable than wireless gaming mice in general 20190104 02:48:23<+wesdiscordbot> so I would imagine wired? 20190104 02:54:58<+wesdiscordbot> But my question is headsets 20190104 02:55:08<+wesdiscordbot> I do fine with wireless mice 20190104 03:03:25< celticminstrel> Wireless is basically the worst thing. 20190104 03:04:18< celticminstrel> Unless it's wireless charging. (I think that's at least theoretically possible?) That should be worth something. 20190104 03:07:13< celticminstrel> Of course there are good reasons for wireless if it's something you want to carry around with you everywhere, I guess; but for mice or controllers, or other things that augment some other device (which includes headphones), I don't see why you'd ever choose wireless. 20190104 03:12:06<+wesdiscordbot> ^ wired is generally better 20190104 03:13:50< celticminstrel> Exactly. 20190104 03:28:25< mattsc> Wireless charging can be done by induction. (There’s lots of things that do that already; unless I misunderstood, yet again, what you mean.) And wireless headphones are nice when you’re on a rowing machine, but otherwise I prefer wired also. 20190104 03:29:50< celticminstrel> I'm pretty sure I've never actually seen anything like a wireless charger (not that I would've recognized it as such if I had). 20190104 03:30:22<+wesdiscordbot> Wired also have better quality 20190104 03:30:32<+wesdiscordbot> wireless charging is similar to transformers 20190104 03:30:37<+wesdiscordbot> tech has been there for ages 20190104 03:30:38<+wesdiscordbot> Though that’s only if you’re really into sound fidelity 20190104 03:30:55< celticminstrel> I've heard stuff about the theory of it but have didn't remember the details. 20190104 03:31:00< mattsc> My electric toothbrush used wireless charging. :P 20190104 03:31:06<+wesdiscordbot> I mean they're really the same thing actually 20190104 03:31:17< celticminstrel> Is there a reason why wireless mice don't do this? 20190104 03:31:20<+wesdiscordbot> just whether or not you have power dissipation at the load 20190104 03:31:23< celticminstrel> Or wiimotes? 20190104 03:31:26<+wesdiscordbot> inductive charging? 20190104 03:31:38< celticminstrel> Whatever you want to call it. >_> 20190104 03:31:39<+wesdiscordbot> you need to have a certain proximity and angle for it to work 20190104 03:31:50<+wesdiscordbot> if you move the mouse around, it will only charge in a certain position and if it's close enough 20190104 03:31:54< celticminstrel> (Oh whoops, had an extra "have" up there.) 20190104 03:32:08< celticminstrel> I see. So it's not as powerful as it sounds. 20190104 03:32:20<+wesdiscordbot> no it's not 20190104 03:32:51<+wesdiscordbot> if you do generate enough power to charge something from a distance (say, up to 1 meter) 20190104 03:33:02< celticminstrel> That's unfortunate, because I do like the idea of not needing a wire. 20190104 03:33:04<+wesdiscordbot> you probably don't want to be sticking your hand in between those things 20190104 03:33:10< celticminstrel> Heh. 20190104 03:33:23<+wesdiscordbot> it might not fry you, but then again, it might do stuff, who knows 20190104 03:33:27< mattsc> Well, there’s plenty of time that you don’t use your mouse during the day, I presume. 20190104 03:33:47< mattsc> So you could move it to the “charge position” where you make sure the coils are aligned during that time. 20190104 03:34:00<+wesdiscordbot> yea if you wanted to have a rechargeable battery and just put your mouse in position when you're not using it that'd work 20190104 03:34:01< mattsc> No reasin why that shouldn’t be possible. 20190104 03:34:11<+wesdiscordbot> I guess someone could make a company out of that :thonk: 20190104 03:34:29< mattsc> I think it’s more a question of whether it’s economical for the companies making the equipment. 20190104 03:34:55< mattsc> Or whether there’s a law requiring you to do it that way … :P 20190104 03:34:58<+wesdiscordbot> it's not that annoying to replace batteries for my wireless mice right now at least, they last a long time 20190104 03:35:07< celticminstrel> mattsc: That's actually worse than the normal situation though, where there's some kind of charging stand. 20190104 03:35:09<+wesdiscordbot> so idk if it'd be worth for people to make the rechargeable one 20190104 03:35:29-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 20190104 03:35:42< mattsc> celticminstrel: Why? You’re chargin stand would be the top right corner of your mouse pad. What’s the difference? 20190104 03:35:58< celticminstrel> Because it's easy to place a mouse in a charging stand, but is it easy to put it in exactly the right place for an inductive charger to work? 20190104 03:36:07< celticminstrel> What if the mouse pad moves? 20190104 03:36:13< celticminstrel> What if you don't have a mouse pad? 20190104 03:36:40<+wesdiscordbot> if you have two flat surfaces it should be easy 20190104 03:37:00< mattsc> Well, you’d need the charging mouse pad wirh it. It wouldn’t work with a rnormal one. Just like you need a charging stand for the other version. 20190104 03:37:26< mattsc> You do have two flart surfaces. The mouse pad. And the bottom of the mouse. 20190104 03:37:30< celticminstrel> ... 20190104 03:37:51<+wesdiscordbot> Wireless charging is basically just for phones nowadays 20190104 03:38:17< mattsc> @Vultraz. And anything that uses water. Like toothbrushes. 20190104 03:38:23<+wesdiscordbot> On the high end models 20190104 03:38:38<+wesdiscordbot> And wireless mice are great because god damn cables are hell especially on a laptop 20190104 03:38:42<+wesdiscordbot> yea 20190104 03:38:45<+wesdiscordbot> I hate cables 20190104 03:39:08<+wesdiscordbot> But I have a chance to get s new headset and I’m just at a total loss what to get 20190104 03:39:24<+wesdiscordbot> wireless for headsets is if you don't care as much abotu sound quality or if it might not work in certain positions 20190104 03:39:39<+wesdiscordbot> but right now, current gen wireless is pretty good already, just doesn't have the fidelity of wired 20190104 03:40:00<+wesdiscordbot> I traded in my Razer Kraken Pro V2 at BestBuy for store credit (replacement plan, it had a janky wire) so now I need to get something 20190104 03:40:23<+wesdiscordbot> on the flip side, if you're using your headset in "weird" positions, like in bed or running around with it, wireless might be better 20190104 03:40:45< mattsc> @Vultraz You want one of those that them rock stars use on stage. I bet the sound quality of those is pretty good. 20190104 03:42:01<+wesdiscordbot> @Yumi problem is I use it everywhere. I don’t have a desktop so it comes with me to work when I take my laptop, it use it with said laptop sitting at home, I use it on the plane, in bed... sometimes it’s gaming, the majority of the time it’s for music... 20190104 03:43:01<+wesdiscordbot> yah so the thing with wired is obvs you can run the risk of breaking the wire 20190104 03:43:09<+wesdiscordbot> and tangling it up 20190104 03:43:12<+wesdiscordbot> And the wire is such a pain in the ass 20190104 03:43:14<+wesdiscordbot> It tangles 20190104 03:43:14<+wesdiscordbot> it's not really the biggest deal, but it's just annoying 20190104 03:43:26<+wesdiscordbot> (for me at least) 20190104 03:44:18<+wesdiscordbot> Probably would be less annoying if the cable didn’t need to be positioned in certain ways to work 20190104 03:44:27<+wesdiscordbot> Like the one I traded in 😬 20190104 03:44:28< mattsc> @Vultraz There’s actually a serious point behind my flippant comment. 20190104 03:44:41< mattsc> The technology exist, ther question is whether you’re willing to pay for it. 20190104 03:44:43<+wesdiscordbot> Mattsc: tell me more 20190104 03:44:45<+wesdiscordbot> well yeah I mean realistically 20190104 03:45:02<+wesdiscordbot> you can say wired will almost always beat wireless for sound quality 20190104 03:45:10<+wesdiscordbot> I’m looking for something in the $100 - $150 price range 20190104 03:45:16<+wesdiscordbot> Good bass 20190104 03:45:16<+wesdiscordbot> but nowadays wireless is good enough for most people 20190104 03:45:45<+wesdiscordbot> Honestly I think great sound with strong bass is my highest priority 20190104 03:46:25< mattsc> Bass is definitely important when you’re background music is 80s hard rock. 20190104 03:46:33<+wesdiscordbot> mattsc: I’m not willing to spent $1k on a DJ headset 😛 20190104 03:46:59< mattsc> @Vultraz I don’t think you’d get it for only $1k. ;) 20190104 03:47:11< mattsc> And FTR, neither would I be. 20190104 03:48:10<+wesdiscordbot> I could get the exact same thing I had 20190104 03:48:19<+wesdiscordbot> $100-$150 isn't a lot to work with D: 20190104 03:48:30<+wesdiscordbot> Another Kraken Pro v2 20190104 03:48:55<+wesdiscordbot> I was thinking the Razer Kraken Tournament Edition 20190104 03:49:05<+wesdiscordbot> But I dunno if virtual 7.1 surround is worth anything 20190104 03:49:10<+wesdiscordbot> Is it worth anything? 20190104 03:49:34<+wesdiscordbot> Was also considering the Razer Nari 20190104 03:51:30<+wesdiscordbot> @Yumi I hope you don’t expect me to buy Beats by Dre 😛 20190104 03:52:54<+wesdiscordbot> That’s like $300 20190104 03:53:04<+wesdiscordbot> idk much about headsets unfortunately, I just use earbuds :p 20190104 03:54:10<+wesdiscordbot> Boooooo 20190104 03:56:11<+wesdiscordbot> I’m hoping someone has some idea 20190104 04:45:59-!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20190104 04:49:11-!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has joined #wesnoth 20190104 05:06:51-!- celticminstrel is now known as celmin|sleep 20190104 05:33:09-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20190104 06:48:24-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20190104 07:01:33<+wesdiscordbot> @Vultraz Here's an excellent headphone comparison (although quite dated at this point): https://www.head-fi.org/threads/shootout-114-portable-headphones-reviewed-xiaomi-mi-headphones-added-04-21-2015.433318/ 20190104 07:06:47<+wesdiscordbot> Virtual surround is useless. Headphones with virtual surround contain only two drivers and then attempt to emulate surround sound with software. It makes things worse compared with regular stereo sound: it's definitely not an improvement. 20190104 07:15:15<+wesdiscordbot> Hm... 20190104 07:15:24<+wesdiscordbot> Yeah, I figured that’s probably what it’s like 20190104 07:16:25<+wesdiscordbot> I a review talking about how virtual surround actually made it harder to tell where stuff was coming from In games 20190104 07:16:37<+wesdiscordbot> Specially in the Kraken TE 20190104 07:16:49<+wesdiscordbot> I guess I’ll save money and stick with Studio 20190104 07:16:51<+wesdiscordbot> Er 20190104 07:16:54<+wesdiscordbot> Stereo 20190104 07:24:57<+wesdiscordbot> If you want a headset (with a built-in microphone) in particular, it looks like Corsair HS70 would fit your needs quite well: https://www.pcper.com/reviews/General-Tech/Corsair-HS70-Wireless-Gaming-Headset-Review-Class-Leader 20190104 08:30:28<+wesdiscordbot> if women can do anything men can 20190104 08:30:34<+wesdiscordbot> why couldn't they suppress an entire gender 20190104 08:30:49<+wesdiscordbot> Rule 5. No politics. 20190104 08:30:53<+wesdiscordbot> oh ok 20190104 11:02:40<+wesdiscordbot> Anyone who has ever made a Town of Salem account, change the password asap, they recently had a data breach 20190104 11:55:48-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at] has joined #wesnoth 20190104 13:21:17-!- Slacer [~yamit@131.red-83-38-250.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has joined #wesnoth 20190104 13:23:47<+wesdiscordbot> Hello bois 20190104 13:23:51<+wesdiscordbot> Big Scrub here 20190104 13:23:58<+wesdiscordbot> dab 20190104 13:24:11<+wesdiscordbot> Guy who can't do any campaigns on Hard+ Difficulty 20190104 13:44:06-!- Slacer [~yamit@131.red-83-38-250.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20190104 13:44:25-!- Slacer [~yamit@131.red-83-38-250.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has joined #wesnoth 20190104 13:49:31-!- celmin|sleep is now known as celmin|away 20190104 15:45:02-!- Slacer [~yamit@131.red-83-38-250.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20190104 15:53:05<+wesdiscordbot> 😖 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/454745224007122954/530775286967697412/2019-01-04_18-48-53.png 20190104 15:53:52<+wesdiscordbot> (Contrary to my expectations, it was Konrad who has been killed in the enemy’s turn.) 20190104 15:54:11<+wesdiscordbot> oof 20190104 16:35:42-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has joined #wesnoth 20190104 16:58:10-!- Slacer [~yamit@131.red-83-38-250.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has joined #wesnoth 20190104 17:09:18<+wesdiscordbot> Were trolls green some time ago? 20190104 17:11:47<+wesdiscordbot> I don't remember, if I recall correctly they have been the same in 1.12 as they are now. 20190104 17:11:52< Soliton> https://roadie.home.xs4all.nl/wesnoth_units/1.0/tree_troll.html 20190104 17:23:17-!- claymore [~claymore@unaffiliated/claymore] has joined #wesnoth 20190104 18:01:26-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 20190104 18:03:00<+wesdiscordbot> I guess Burin (TRoW) describing Trolls as green is a relic from back then. Time to change that. 20190104 18:05:29<+wesdiscordbot> @VYNLT On what difficulty are you playing the Ravagersm 20190104 18:05:31<+wesdiscordbot> *? 20190104 18:07:41-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has joined #wesnoth 20190104 18:11:20<+wesdiscordbot> easy 20190104 18:11:48<+wesdiscordbot> (im not that good at Wesnoth lol sooo yea) 20190104 18:18:25<+wesdiscordbot> I thought we fixed Burin's line a decade ago 😂 20190104 18:18:42<+wesdiscordbot> It must've continued to slip through the cracks since that report 20190104 18:19:00<+wesdiscordbot> oof 20190104 18:22:53<+wesdiscordbot> let's claim burin is colorblind 😖 20190104 18:34:16<+wesdiscordbot> @VYNLT How many units did you start with in Sc1? The nightmare difficulty is, surprisingly, nightmarish. XD 20190104 18:35:03<+wesdiscordbot> uhhh i forgot 20190104 18:35:12<+wesdiscordbot> it was a pretty good amount, enough to fight the dark elves 20190104 18:35:27<+wesdiscordbot> easy difficulty is indeed easy sooo yea 20190104 18:37:27<+wesdiscordbot> i havent finished it yet tho 20190104 19:07:03<+wesdiscordbot> @jyrkive the HS70 looks pretty good, but unfortunately it needs a wireless receiver, so I couldn’t use it with my tablet or phone (there’s no wired mode either), and the mic isn’t retractable. 😦 20190104 19:08:22-!- Slacer [~yamit@131.red-83-38-250.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20190104 19:08:46<+wesdiscordbot> I think custom wireless receivers are pretty much a requirement for a "wireless + good sound quality" combo. Bluetooth is bad for sound quality. 20190104 19:10:17<+wesdiscordbot> Oh? 20190104 19:10:21<+wesdiscordbot> I didn’t know that 20190104 19:11:04<+wesdiscordbot> I guess in that case if I want something wireless I should get one with a optional wired mode 🤔 20190104 19:11:09<+wesdiscordbot> Like the Nari 20190104 19:13:27<+wesdiscordbot> Or just wired 20190104 19:14:05<+wesdiscordbot> How about Turtle Beach Elite Atlas Pro Performance Gaming Headset? https://www.pcper.com/reviews/General-Tech/Turtle-Beach-Elite-Atlas-Pro-Performance-Gaming-Headset-Review 20190104 19:19:18<+wesdiscordbot> Hmmmmmmm 20190104 19:25:19<+wesdiscordbot> Seems pretty good... 🤔 20190104 19:29:41<+wesdiscordbot> mouthful of a name lol 20190104 19:32:33<+wesdiscordbot> Indeed 20190104 19:33:41<+wesdiscordbot> Some of the craziest names for... well, anything I have run across. :D https://vndb.org/v13566 https://twitter.com/ryanshrout/status/827224332342435840 20190104 19:38:00-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 20190104 19:52:22-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20190104 20:44:19-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20190104 21:13:09-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at] has joined #wesnoth 20190104 21:22:47<+wesdiscordbot> Wait what 20190104 21:22:56<+wesdiscordbot> Li'sar is not elusive anymore? 20190104 21:23:00<+wesdiscordbot> And wears armour 20190104 21:23:03<+wesdiscordbot> W H Y? 20190104 21:33:16<+wesdiscordbot> Guys 20190104 21:33:19<+wesdiscordbot> Is Inarix male or female 20190104 21:34:44< Ravana> wiki says male 20190104 21:37:36<+wesdiscordbot> Is the whole thing about saurian society being sex-segregated still canon then 20190104 21:48:33<+wesdiscordbot> Let's change the wiki then. 20190104 22:01:04-!- claymore [~claymore@unaffiliated/claymore] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20190104 22:04:08-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20190104 22:18:38<+wesdiscordbot> yes, actually the saurian skirmishers (I think them) were changed to be female to reflect the sex-segregation 20190104 22:18:59<+wesdiscordbot> however, we don't really have designated campaign maintainers, so it takes longer for these changes to get put into campaigns 20190104 23:04:56<+wesdiscordbot> it would help to file bugs on github (or pull requests) 20190104 23:06:17<+wesdiscordbot> Should I make an issue for Burins line? 20190104 23:07:17<+wesdiscordbot> I don't know what that is (no spoilers please) 20190104 23:08:01<+wesdiscordbot> I'm just saying in general, that if a change needs to be made to a campaign (as @Yumi implied), recording it on github would help ensure it does happen eventually 20190104 23:24:45<+wesdiscordbot> @Yumi ^ 20190104 23:25:19<+wesdiscordbot> wha? 20190104 23:27:42<+wesdiscordbot> Should I make an issue for Burins line? 20190104 23:27:59<+wesdiscordbot> Green trolls. :D 20190104 23:28:54<+wesdiscordbot> why not just fix it 😮 20190104 23:29:33<+wesdiscordbot> You do that, while I keep looking for bugs? :p 20190104 23:29:49<+wesdiscordbot> it's in TRoW, right? 20190104 23:30:03<+wesdiscordbot> I don't really feel like touching TRoW right now tbh 20190104 23:30:22<+wesdiscordbot> if you don't want to fix it youc an just leave it in an issue I guess 20190104 23:32:20<+wesdiscordbot> I'll get to it eventually (or someone else will) --- Log closed Sat Jan 05 00:00:44 2019