--- Log opened Sun Jan 06 00:00:46 2019 20190106 00:13:54<+wesdiscordbot> What scenario was that? 20190106 00:14:03<+wesdiscordbot> I'm pretty sure the unit named Inky in TRoW predates Inky the mod 20190106 00:24:36<+wesdiscordbot> There are more. E.g. the names of the petrifed units in some MP maps 20190106 01:02:06-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20190106 01:40:58-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at] has joined #wesnoth 20190106 02:45:01-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzzโ€ฆ] 20190106 02:50:21<+wesdiscordbot> Do Wesnoth elves wear helmets? 20190106 02:52:00<+wesdiscordbot> Well, the Quenoth do 20190106 02:55:00< celticminstrel> I think most of them don't. 20190106 03:01:40< celticminstrel> The wood elves, I mean. 20190106 03:02:10< celticminstrel> I can't think of any elvish unit that wears anything like a helmet. Closest is probably the marshal(?) but I don't think that's quite the same... 20190106 03:08:12<+wesdiscordbot> Yeah, those are like headbands? 20190106 03:08:24 * celticminstrel just couldn't remember. 20190106 03:08:30<+wesdiscordbot> They wear hat, but no helmets 20190106 03:08:42< celticminstrel> Yeah, there are a lot of hats, for sure. 20190106 03:08:43<+wesdiscordbot> Is there a reason for it? or is it just cuz? 20190106 03:08:58< celticminstrel> My guess would be because of weight. 20190106 03:09:08< celticminstrel> (And possibly noise.) 20190106 03:09:13<+wesdiscordbot> Oh I see 20190106 03:09:33< celticminstrel> My understanding is that the elves specialize in guerilla warfare, so they need to be fast, which means not carrying unnecessary weight. 20190106 03:09:52< celticminstrel> And it also means they should be stealthy, of course. 20190106 03:10:36< celticminstrel> The loyalists on the other hand are strong in field warfare, so they need that armour to protect against the inevitable hail of arrows and the like. 20190106 03:11:42<+wesdiscordbot> I see 20190106 07:40:21-!- celticminstrel is now known as celmin|sleep 20190106 10:09:24<+wesdiscordbot> wouldnt elves use light armor at least? 20190106 10:09:30<+wesdiscordbot> like, y'know, leather armor, gambersons 20190106 10:09:40<+wesdiscordbot> for helmets i guess they could use a leather helmet 20190106 10:12:40<+wesdiscordbot> I pretty sure the do wear leather armor. 20190106 10:12:50<+wesdiscordbot> Just not on their head. :thonk: 20190106 10:13:03<+wesdiscordbot> gotta show off that glorious elven hair. 20190106 10:14:28<+wesdiscordbot> There's this guy. But that seems to be UMC. 20190106 10:14:28<+wesdiscordbot> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/531415240408170506/file.png 20190106 10:14:40<+wesdiscordbot> Oh. Eastern Invasion. 20190106 10:15:11<+wesdiscordbot> He's in EI? Really? Where? ._. 20190106 10:15:34<+wesdiscordbot> Well, not exactly. It was made for EI, but might not made it in. 20190106 10:16:07<+wesdiscordbot> I don't think it did. There is like only one time you meet elves and those are regular ones. 20190106 10:16:34<+wesdiscordbot> But there are some elvish spearusers in a number of UMC. ^^ 20190106 10:16:49<+wesdiscordbot> It's from 2011, so it might have changed till then. 20190106 10:23:33<+wesdiscordbot> things you find when you look for Wesnoth portraits... (posted in the wrong channel before, woops.) 20190106 10:23:34<+wesdiscordbot> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/531417533409132554/konrad_adaptation.png 20190106 10:23:55<+wesdiscordbot> konrad i guess 20190106 10:24:58<+wesdiscordbot> Yeah, or sasuke, I can't tell. ^^ 20190106 10:32:55<+wesdiscordbot> Most certainly Sasuke. 20190106 10:42:32<+wesdiscordbot> Old Konrad looks awesome 20190106 11:05:37-!- claymore [~claymore@unaffiliated/claymore] has joined #wesnoth 20190106 12:45:46-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has joined #wesnoth 20190106 15:49:32-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has joined #wesnoth 20190106 16:21:49<+wesdiscordbot> ๐Ÿ˜– 20190106 16:21:50<+wesdiscordbot> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/531507694285226013/The_Death_of_Wesnoth.gz 20190106 16:22:23<+wesdiscordbot> Hereโ€™s a reply of my last attempt at Heir to the Throneโ€™s finale... 20190106 16:31:27-!- celmin|sleep is now known as celticminstrel 20190106 16:31:28<+wesdiscordbot> ooof 20190106 16:36:20-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20190106 17:10:17-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20190106 17:44:32<+wesdiscordbot> @Bitron Old Konrad was perfect 20190106 17:46:23<+wesdiscordbot> Old girlfriend was perfect too :p 20190106 17:47:11<+wesdiscordbot> You mean Li'sar? 20190106 17:48:11<+wesdiscordbot> The anime style of early portraits actually makes sense 20190106 17:48:15<+wesdiscordbot> Considering the game looks like a JRPG 20190106 17:49:21<+wesdiscordbot> i prefer the more realistic artstyle that the game currently has, but i can see the appeal of the anime style one 20190106 17:56:26<+wesdiscordbot> you can write an addon that replaces default portraits 20190106 17:56:41<+wesdiscordbot> like Reverse Time Graphics replaces default UI graphics 20190106 17:59:24<+wesdiscordbot> ๐Ÿ˜ฆ 20190106 17:59:24<+wesdiscordbot> where can I find Reverse Time Graphics? 20190106 17:59:56<+wesdiscordbot> it's no such add-on at add-ons server 20190106 18:40:08<+wesdiscordbot> sorry 20190106 18:40:11<+wesdiscordbot> Mirror Schedule Images 20190106 18:50:49<+wesdiscordbot> ๐Ÿคฆ 20190106 18:56:49<+wesdiscordbot> ? 20190106 19:07:12-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at] has joined #wesnoth 20190106 19:09:53-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has quit [Quit: mattsc] 20190106 19:18:02<+wesdiscordbot> JRPG? 20190106 19:18:28< celticminstrel> Japanese role-playing game. Somehow that's apparently a genre now? 20190106 19:20:17<+wesdiscordbot> it's been a genre for a while 20190106 19:20:30< celticminstrel> Somehow. 20190106 19:23:12-!- synthpopisback [~synthpopi@cpe-2606-A000-7947-5000-E0E5-A300-F57D-DB0C.dyn6.twc.com] has joined #wesnoth 20190106 19:23:44<+wesdiscordbot> There is a rather large difference between JRPGs and regular RPGs. Tnings like character archetypes, the prevalence of turn-based battle systems, use of predefined characters instead of letting the player customize, etc. 20190106 19:24:06< celticminstrel> True. 20190106 19:24:31<+wesdiscordbot> Likewise, not every RPG made in Japan even counts as JRPG. For example, Dark Souls is definitely not a JRPG. 20190106 19:24:32< celticminstrel> The predefined characters thing is definitely something I've noticed. 20190106 19:24:46< celticminstrel> Huh? DS was made in Japan? o.O 20190106 19:25:12<+wesdiscordbot> Yep. The developer, From Software, is a Japanese company. 20190106 19:27:33<+wesdiscordbot> I think the genre can be more accurately called "console rpg" 20190106 19:28:55<+wesdiscordbot> There are more subgenres out there, such as ARPG (action RPG). 20190106 20:20:55-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzzโ€ฆ] 20190106 20:40:35-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has joined #wesnoth 20190106 21:15:18<+wesdiscordbot> Is konrad married to li'sar at the beginning? 20190106 21:15:44<+wesdiscordbot> of? 20190106 21:19:24<+wesdiscordbot> of HTTT i assume? 20190106 21:19:56<+wesdiscordbot> in which case the answer is very much no 20190106 21:19:57<+wesdiscordbot> lol 20190106 21:20:01<+wesdiscordbot> yeah 20190106 21:20:21<+wesdiscordbot> So the normal wood Elves of Wesnoth don't wear helmets, and they also don't use spears? 20190106 21:20:35<+wesdiscordbot> apparently not 20190106 21:20:38<+wesdiscordbot> The lack of helmets is apparently for mobility reason, but what about spears? 20190106 21:26:11<+wesdiscordbot> they have arrows for pierce damage 20190106 21:26:43<+wesdiscordbot> in close quarters a sword is easier than a spear, I guess? 20190106 21:27:52<+wesdiscordbot> That's a good point you make about the arrows, all of the elven units, except for the shaman line, have a bow 20190106 21:28:10<+wesdiscordbot> "Swords are, for many, an expensive luxury, and one which peasants can ill afford. Spears are much easier to make and will do well even without a spearhead, though most can afford one. Clad in leather armor, and often armed with a shield and a few javelins, spearmen are the staple of most armies, often thrown into the front lines with only the most basic training." 20190106 21:28:14<+wesdiscordbot> spearman description 20190106 21:28:25<+wesdiscordbot> "An experienced soldier will often save enough to equip himself with a suit of scale or chain armor, and a sturdy broadsword. Though trading their spears for swords can be a jarring change, most spearmen will leap at the chance, knowing all too well the limitations of the weapon they are leaving behind. A sword is not without its own drawbacks, but is more versatile than a spear, and much better in close quarters." 20190106 21:28:29<+wesdiscordbot> swordsman description 20190106 21:28:51<+wesdiscordbot> it's kinda odd that spearmen are as effective as elvish fighters in melee 20190106 21:28:56<+wesdiscordbot> 7x3 = 5x4 20190106 21:29:02<+wesdiscordbot> these are for humans, since the elves number fewer and perhaps are in general more wealthy, perhaps all elves can have swords 20190106 21:29:22<+wesdiscordbot> the elvish lvl0 units might use spears ๐Ÿ˜ƒ 20190106 21:29:29<+wesdiscordbot> I guess gameplay doesn't always equate to lore 20190106 21:29:49<+wesdiscordbot> (it doesn't need to 100%) 20190106 21:29:54<+wesdiscordbot> I see 20190106 21:31:26<+wesdiscordbot> although 20190106 21:31:47<+wesdiscordbot> "Among elves, swordplay is most commonly practiced by rangers and border patrols, who serve primarily as guardians of the forests and more occasionally as small squads for intrusions into other territories. Elvish swordsmanship is known for its emphasis on swift, agile strikes, generating less power than human or orcish warriors, but also leaving less time to react and counter. Most elves can learn the basics of swordplay 20190106 21:31:47<+wesdiscordbot> relatively quickly and will readily pick up the blade when confronted with battle." 20190106 21:32:22<+wesdiscordbot> That seems to cover what josteph said 20190106 21:32:35<+wesdiscordbot> erm, right 20190106 21:32:53<+wesdiscordbot> so there's no problem here? :0 20190106 21:33:14<+wesdiscordbot> Oh, I wasn't trying to raise any problems haha, just making questions 20190106 21:33:17<+wesdiscordbot> haha 20190106 21:33:19<+wesdiscordbot> or rather, just curious 20190106 21:33:20<+wesdiscordbot> like, it makes sense 20190106 21:33:20<+wesdiscordbot> right? 20190106 21:33:26<+wesdiscordbot> it does to me 20190106 21:33:48<+wesdiscordbot> Look at the 'spears don't do well in close quarters'. Which also somewhat means that they are best used with no obstructions around. 20190106 21:33:55<+wesdiscordbot> Now look at where elves live. 20190106 21:34:01<+wesdiscordbot> Pardon, wood elves. 20190106 21:34:05<+wesdiscordbot> this also make sense 20190106 21:34:28<+wesdiscordbot> No make a guess why elves might prefer swords over spears. ๐Ÿ˜› 20190106 21:34:37<+wesdiscordbot> yeah the Quenoth elves use spears, but it is understandably better in their terrain 20190106 21:34:46<+wesdiscordbot> "Fighters make up the bulk of the Quenoth warriors. Aside from being proficient in the use of the spear, they are remarkably skilled in working together and coordinating defense. " 20190106 21:35:04<+wesdiscordbot> Not a lot of obstructions in a desert. ๐Ÿ˜„ 20190106 21:35:36<+wesdiscordbot> so much logic, my brain can't handle it ๐Ÿ˜‚ 20190106 21:35:44<+wesdiscordbot> haha 20190106 21:47:11<+wesdiscordbot> I meant the tutorial part 20190106 21:47:28<+wesdiscordbot> sorry for the confusion!! ๐Ÿ˜Ÿ 20190106 21:47:37<+wesdiscordbot> tutorial isn't tied to canon plot 20190106 21:47:39<+wesdiscordbot> it's just a tutorial 20190106 21:47:46<+wesdiscordbot> Ah ok :) 20190106 22:02:32<+wesdiscordbot> Is it called 'ellipse' or is it 'eclipse'? 20190106 22:02:59<+wesdiscordbot> the circly around the unit? 20190106 22:03:02<+wesdiscordbot> an ellipse 20190106 22:14:21<+wesdiscordbot> regarding poor humans not using swords in Wesnoth, i think that can make sense 20190106 22:14:42<+wesdiscordbot> look at the Vikings for example, from what i know, only richer/more influential ones used swords 20190106 22:14:47<+wesdiscordbot> the others just used axes or spears 20190106 22:17:13< celticminstrel> ...why would it be an eclipse. 20190106 22:17:18< celticminstrel> Obviously it's an ellipse. 20190106 22:17:34< celticminstrel> Well technically, if you take perspective into account, it could be called a circle, but that's beside the point. 20190106 22:18:07< celticminstrel> Eclipse is something totally different. 20190106 22:18:17< loonycyborg> it's an IDE :P 20190106 22:18:40< celticminstrel> Well, that too, I guess. 20190106 22:19:47<+wesdiscordbot> Sometimes technical terms don't mean anything to the layman and might even sound nonsensical. ๐Ÿ˜„ 20190106 22:20:13< celticminstrel> Since when is ellipse a technical term. 20190106 22:20:27< celticminstrel> It literally means something like a squashed circle? 20190106 22:20:47<+wesdiscordbot> I'm refering to eclipse. ._. 20190106 22:21:13<+wesdiscordbot> I merely explained why I considered 'eclipse' as possiblity. ^^ 20190106 22:21:19< celticminstrel> That doesn't seem all that technical either, but... I guess it's not as common a word as ellipse probably... 20190106 22:21:36< celticminstrel> Normally you'd see it in conjunction with "lunar" or "solar". 20190106 22:21:49< celticminstrel> Though of course it still retains its meaning without that. 20190106 22:21:59<+wesdiscordbot> The ellipse is ecpliting the ground. xD 20190106 22:22:06<+wesdiscordbot> *eclipting 20190106 22:22:10< celticminstrel> Also it's a verb, eyes. 20190106 22:22:12< celticminstrel> ... 20190106 22:22:39<+wesdiscordbot> Checkmate. 20190106 22:22:46< celticminstrel> ...as I thought, it should be "eclipsing". 20190106 22:22:58< celticminstrel> ^yes 20190106 22:23:05<+wesdiscordbot> You are right. You won't see my correction though. 20190106 22:23:47< celticminstrel> For a moment I doubted my spelling knowledge there. 20190106 22:24:03< celticminstrel> Probably because it does change to T in some cases, such as "ecliptic". 20190106 22:24:25< celticminstrel> But I guess that's because that's a Latin suffix, not an English suffix. 20190106 22:24:31< celticminstrel> Probably. 20190106 22:24:58< celticminstrel> (Or rather, "ecliptic" is probably derived from a Latin inflected form.) 20190106 22:24:59<+wesdiscordbot> does anyone know who drew these? 20190106 22:25:00<+wesdiscordbot> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/531599082016342036/commander.png 20190106 22:25:05<+wesdiscordbot> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/531599105911160843/firefly.jpg 20190106 22:25:09<+wesdiscordbot> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/531599125234581524/pilot.png 20190106 22:25:14<+wesdiscordbot> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/531599144742158339/scientist.png 20190106 22:25:25< celticminstrel> ... 20190106 22:26:39<+wesdiscordbot> Looks like Antman. 20190106 22:27:08<+wesdiscordbot> Or maybe Black Manta? 20190106 22:27:26< celticminstrel> (Are you guessing artist or depicted) 20190106 22:28:55<+wesdiscordbot> are those for Wesnoth/ 20190106 22:29:15<+wesdiscordbot> also wait a second, that doctor dude 20190106 22:30:00<+wesdiscordbot> Depicted. ๐Ÿ˜„ 20190106 22:30:01<+wesdiscordbot> https://i.redd.it/szuke469qgsy.png isnt that Hackerman 20190106 22:45:25<+wesdiscordbot> Are there any news about Project Haldric? 20190106 22:46:50<+wesdiscordbot> "Looks like Antman. Or maybe Black Manta?" @Konrad2 obviously, u don't know a lot about superheroes XD 20190106 22:47:15<+wesdiscordbot> Hey, his eyes do look like Black Manta! 20190106 22:47:16<+wesdiscordbot> Main Programmer has exam period 20190106 22:47:32<+wesdiscordbot> Good luck. 20190106 22:47:55<+wesdiscordbot> not me. Bitron 20190106 22:48:07<+wesdiscordbot> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/531604907380441088/black_manta.jpg 20190106 22:48:24<+wesdiscordbot> that's balck manta 20190106 22:48:37<+wesdiscordbot> that's an alien 20190106 22:48:37<+wesdiscordbot> Red eyes. 20190106 22:48:53<+wesdiscordbot> Looks the same to me. 20190106 22:48:58<+wesdiscordbot> lol 20190106 22:49:11<+wesdiscordbot> but anyway, i just wanted 2 know if anyone knew who the artist is 20190106 22:49:33<+wesdiscordbot> @Sevanrakon that's not an alien 20190106 22:50:48<+wesdiscordbot> this is the best picture i could find without the mask 20190106 22:50:49<+wesdiscordbot> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/531605581132464128/manta.jpg 20190106 22:51:01<+wesdiscordbot> anyway, those are wesnoth portraits 20190106 22:51:08<+wesdiscordbot> more like spacenoth portraits 20190106 22:51:44<+wesdiscordbot> Doesn't look like the movie. ๐Ÿ˜ฎ 20190106 22:52:25<+wesdiscordbot> not at all 20190106 22:54:46-!- claymore [~claymore@unaffiliated/claymore] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20190106 23:00:27<+wesdiscordbot> @PastaSaucey you pinged the wrong person ๐Ÿ˜‚ 20190106 23:00:42<+wesdiscordbot> ? 20190106 23:00:44<+wesdiscordbot> oh 20190106 23:00:48<+wesdiscordbot> lololol0olololololol 20190106 23:00:50<+wesdiscordbot> hahahahaha 20190106 23:00:53<+wesdiscordbot> sorry 20190106 23:02:02<+wesdiscordbot> np x) 20190106 23:07:58-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20190106 23:09:17<+wesdiscordbot> i guess no one's gonna answer my question .... 20190106 23:09:23<+wesdiscordbot> https://tenor.com/view/marshmallow-fail-fall-on-face-round-chubby-gif-7185363 20190106 23:17:41<+wesdiscordbot> probably nobody knows 20190106 23:20:04<+wesdiscordbot> https://opengameart.org/content/justin-nichols-sci-fi-portraits-png-psd-transparency 20190106 23:20:42<+wesdiscordbot> @PastaSaucey 20190106 23:22:19<+wesdiscordbot> thanks @Patch !! 20190106 23:23:07<+wesdiscordbot> np 20190106 23:23:50<+wesdiscordbot> https://tenor.com/view/dodge-ball-comedy-agree-thumbs-up-chuck-norris-gif-3485922 20190106 23:24:48<+wesdiscordbot> https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-gif-7331500 20190106 23:25:22<+wesdiscordbot> looks like the first pic --- Log closed Mon Jan 07 00:00:47 2019