--- Log opened Wed Jan 16 00:00:42 2019 20190116 00:57:40< celmin|away> (Dwarves aren't a faction FTR ScorpZero ;p ) 20190116 01:05:23-!- celmin|away is now known as celticminstrel 20190116 02:02:52-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 20190116 02:39:08-!- m_ [~m@2a02:a317:2241:7a00:8c6:b467:dd4:fee2] has joined #wesnoth 20190116 02:39:49<+wesdiscordbot> How do i play multiplayer in android 20190116 02:52:50< m_> I was wondering... What is the difference between mages and "regular" ranged units like different types of archers? 20190116 02:53:03< m_> Mages are better but also a bit more costly - right? 20190116 02:53:49< m_> I was thinking if mages can be reworked to be a class of units in their own right rather than simply "better archers" 20190116 02:53:58< m_> This may be a silly idea, but... 20190116 02:54:55< m_> Why not make mages' attacks even more powerful, but only make them able to attack no more often than every other turn? (add a 1 turn cooldown to mages' attacks) 20190116 02:57:39<+wesdiscordbot> Well, I think they have more vulnerability, and 'magic' ranged attacks, which deal more damage 20190116 02:57:43<+wesdiscordbot> They're like glass cannons 20190116 02:59:01<+wesdiscordbot> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/534929540263182337/Screenshot_2019-01-15_at_7.58.40_PM.png 20190116 02:59:24<+wesdiscordbot> Glass cannons as in the trope 20190116 02:59:34<+wesdiscordbot> which is shown above 20190116 03:03:23< m_> yes but again this is pretty much the role filled by many archers as well; and not all mages fill this role, liches for example are not that much fragile 20190116 03:06:17< m_> this still doesn't make mages much different from archers IMO; they are still (in general) little more than harder hitting but more fragile archers 20190116 03:07:00< m_> kind of the same difference as between deathblade and revenant/draug 20190116 03:14:21<+wesdiscordbot> mages punch a hole through a defense line 20190116 03:14:30<+wesdiscordbot> e.g. if you need to get through elves in forest or people in castle 20190116 03:14:36<+wesdiscordbot> also great against undead, archers fail there 20190116 03:15:06<+wesdiscordbot> white magi specifically are strong healers 20190116 03:17:34<+wesdiscordbot> elven mages are similar in role, but slow is quite a lot of utility 20190116 03:17:53<+wesdiscordbot> offset is not quite as much dmg 20190116 03:17:56<+wesdiscordbot> as human magi 20190116 03:18:23< m_> orcish archers good against undead. Marksmen can also trump high evasiveness, albeit not as good. I mean yes, you're right mostly, but this still makes mages little more than a subclass of archers... just as heavy infantrymen, despite being different from pikemen, still are similar enough 20190116 03:18:36<+wesdiscordbot> in a sense 20190116 03:18:40<+wesdiscordbot> healers ofc fill a different role 20190116 03:18:43<+wesdiscordbot> than your combat magi 20190116 03:19:11<+wesdiscordbot> and magi and archers both have different targets 20190116 03:19:24<+wesdiscordbot> like I wouldn't tell my marksman to go shoot a wose 20190116 03:19:28<+wesdiscordbot> but my red magi, sure 20190116 03:19:36<+wesdiscordbot> red mage 20190116 03:20:10<+wesdiscordbot> orc archers happen to cover both fire and pierce for orcs, since they don't have mages 20190116 03:20:17<+wesdiscordbot> same with pillagers, but those are lvl 2 20190116 03:20:51<+wesdiscordbot> well, to me, the archer [or bowman] is your simple ranged unit, while your mage is the opposite of the 'heavy' troopers 20190116 03:20:59<+wesdiscordbot> for example, loyalists 20190116 03:21:35<+wesdiscordbot> HI and Mage are almost closer to opposites in purpose to me, as HI defend a lot better but have less attack and the reverse for the mages 20190116 03:21:45<+wesdiscordbot> but the bowman is more balanced, even if slightly 20190116 03:21:59<+wesdiscordbot> pretty sure that m_ wasn't comparing the 2 directly 20190116 03:22:05<+wesdiscordbot> just that HI are special fighters 20190116 03:22:08<+wesdiscordbot> and magi are special archers 20190116 03:22:09<+wesdiscordbot> is all 20190116 03:24:30-!- synthpopisback [~synthpopi@cpe-2606-A000-7947-5000-9D3-9DEC-418D-CE4F.dyn6.twc.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20190116 03:24:56-!- synthpopisback [~synthpopi@cpe-2606-A000-7947-5000-9D3-9DEC-418D-CE4F.dyn6.twc.com] has joined #wesnoth 20190116 03:26:04<+wesdiscordbot> i know 20190116 03:30:08< m_> "magi are special archers" - precisely... and this is what I'm not sure if I really like... so I came with my (perhaps silly) idea of making mages a class of their own 20190116 03:30:23< m_> "Why not make mages' attacks even more powerful, but only make them able to attack no more often than every other turn? (add a 1 turn cooldown to mages' attacks)" 20190116 03:44:09<+wesdiscordbot> well, you're welcome to make that an addon 20190116 03:45:32<+wesdiscordbot> doing that would change fundamental gameplay mechanics, so probably not going to happen in mainline 20190116 03:47:03<+wesdiscordbot> hello, anyone had a recommendation for add ons? 20190116 03:47:25<+wesdiscordbot> i want to play some of the best add on out there 20190116 03:47:34<+wesdiscordbot> MP campaign, era or..? 20190116 03:47:37<+wesdiscordbot> err 20190116 03:47:43<+wesdiscordbot> MP or campaign or era, or what else? 20190116 03:48:05<+wesdiscordbot> Campaing, MP 20190116 03:48:16<+wesdiscordbot> MP -> era of magic is pretty cool 20190116 03:48:21<+wesdiscordbot> to lands unknown is the campaign for that 20190116 03:48:24<+wesdiscordbot> invasion from the unknown is also good 20190116 03:48:34<+wesdiscordbot> any of the RPGs from bob the mighty are also good 20190116 03:48:44<+wesdiscordbot> the fall of trent, brotherhood of light, etc. 20190116 03:49:18<+wesdiscordbot> bad moon rising is also fun 20190116 03:49:35<+wesdiscordbot> I think brotherhood of light isn't updated 20190116 03:49:39<+wesdiscordbot> i can't find it 20190116 03:49:47<+wesdiscordbot> might not be on 1.14 I guess 20190116 03:50:02<+wesdiscordbot> ooze mini campaign and elvish dynasty rpg are cool too, bit shorter than the other campaigns I mentioned 20190116 03:50:31<+wesdiscordbot> i already played to lands unknown, so yeah 20190116 03:50:58<+wesdiscordbot> is the invasion of the unknown is sama with lands of unknown? 20190116 03:52:20<+wesdiscordbot> How about five fates? 20190116 03:52:33<+wesdiscordbot> no invasion from the unknown is different 20190116 03:52:35<+wesdiscordbot> haven't tried five fates 20190116 03:59:37<+wesdiscordbot> what version do you have? 20190116 04:07:49-!- m_ [~m@2a02:a317:2241:7a00:8c6:b467:dd4:fee2] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20190116 04:19:11<+wesdiscordbot> 1.14 20190116 04:54:21-!- celticminstrel is now known as celmin|sleep 20190116 07:34:20-!- celmin|sleep [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20190116 07:38:03-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has joined #wesnoth 20190116 07:41:15-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20190116 08:29:28-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has joined #wesnoth 20190116 08:52:30-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has joined #wesnoth 20190116 09:04:54-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 20190116 09:56:45< Rhonda> Gambit: Hmm, favorite pokemon … can't really tell. Probably Bisasam because it was the first I had and helped me get along a long long way. :) 20190116 09:57:18<+wesdiscordbot> my favourite pokemon is a slowpoke 20190116 09:57:21<+wesdiscordbot> matches be so well 20190116 09:57:35< Rhonda> Isn't slowpoke a dance style? :) 20190116 09:57:35<+wesdiscordbot> actually i don't know if it's a real pokemon because i'm a :slowpoke: 20190116 10:16:42-!- Rhonda [~rhonda@wesnoth/developer/rhonda] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20190116 10:30:04-!- Rhonda [~rhonda@wesnoth/developer/rhonda] has joined #wesnoth 20190116 11:11:42<+wesdiscordbot> Uh, we're talking pokemon? From 1st gen it's probably Arcanine. πŸ€” 20190116 11:51:01< Rhonda> Bitron: I just was replying to a question Gambit asked me on twitter. xD Given that I rarely look into there and it's only become a bridge from mastodon for me these days I thought I'd respond here given that I remembered where I know the nick from. :) 20190116 11:51:07<+wesdiscordbot> I just realised Mal Keshar looks like Sans 20190116 11:51:10<+wesdiscordbot> Was that intentional 20190116 12:13:00<+wesdiscordbot> i doubt it lol 20190116 12:13:09<+wesdiscordbot> Mal Keshar does have a glowing eye tho if i recall correctly 20190116 12:13:15<+wesdiscordbot> (like Sans) 20190116 12:59:13<+wesdiscordbot> Malin Keshar 20190116 12:59:17<+wesdiscordbot> More like 20190116 12:59:22<+wesdiscordbot> Malin Undertale 20190116 13:22:49<+wesdiscordbot> Also question 20190116 13:23:10<+wesdiscordbot> Is there a mod that adds AMLA bonuses like +1 damage or Abilities 20190116 13:23:13<+wesdiscordbot> something like that? 20190116 13:23:38<+wesdiscordbot> I believe a mod like that could give some good advantages to some overlooked units 20190116 13:23:48<+wesdiscordbot> like an AMLA bonus perk that gives the Lancer skirmisher 20190116 13:23:50<+wesdiscordbot> or somethin 20190116 13:24:36-!- celticminstrel is now known as celmin|away 20190116 13:25:07<+wesdiscordbot> Hmm, I think there was... Like "AMLA Mod" or something 20190116 13:25:21<+wesdiscordbot> Like consume 20 XP for +1 melee dmg 20190116 13:25:38<+wesdiscordbot> Oh 20190116 13:25:44<+wesdiscordbot> That feels kinda easy 20190116 13:25:57<+wesdiscordbot> Specially for someone who is eligible for AMLAs as it is 20190116 13:26:03<+wesdiscordbot> 20 exp is easy to get 20190116 13:26:57<+wesdiscordbot> Still 20190116 13:27:00<+wesdiscordbot> It's what I asked for 20190116 13:27:03<+wesdiscordbot> Ty <3 20190116 13:30:58<+wesdiscordbot> I had Spectres saying "LOL EZ PZ" with a 17-8 melee damage and 15-4 ranged in one campaign XD One of the best cheat mods IMHO 20190116 13:31:58<+wesdiscordbot> If I play with a mod like that 20190116 13:32:03<+wesdiscordbot> I'm only doing the hardest possible difficulty 20190116 13:32:07<+wesdiscordbot> Because I'd just feel unfair 20190116 13:36:49<+wesdiscordbot> >There's a mod that makes every AI enemy invisible 20190116 13:36:56<+wesdiscordbot> I one day strive to be that fucking good 20190116 15:54:03<+wesdiscordbot> Into the Depths failed for the second time by having Ethiliel killed by the revenants. 20190116 15:55:58<+wesdiscordbot> oof 20190116 16:05:42<+wesdiscordbot> Now Deoran is killed by Mal M'Brin himself. 20190116 16:07:48<+wesdiscordbot> After a new attempt, one of the trolls I have managed to ally delivered the final blow on Mal M'Brin. 20190116 16:22:49<+wesdiscordbot> The Great Horde is ridiculous 20190116 16:22:50<+wesdiscordbot> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/535131823894691841/unknown.png 20190116 16:24:44<+wesdiscordbot> I like how it uses the simple "Great Horde" status 20190116 16:24:51<+wesdiscordbot> To make an entire chapter 20190116 16:25:10<+wesdiscordbot> I had to use the income and the Great Horde status to fight an equally massive undead horde 20190116 16:26:34<+wesdiscordbot> Vengeance completed in just 4 turns. 20190116 17:17:52-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has joined #wesnoth 20190116 17:24:10<+wesdiscordbot> what campaign is this 20190116 17:26:17<+wesdiscordbot> Odin, I've at last finished my project on propositional calculus. Now I can plaaayyy... 20190116 17:31:33<+wesdiscordbot> Isn’t that the Rising Underworld by samonella? That’s a fun campaign πŸ˜„ 20190116 18:54:58-!- Tobbi__ [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has joined #wesnoth 20190116 18:56:25-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20190116 19:13:37<+wesdiscordbot> I think it is 20190116 19:13:46<+wesdiscordbot> I barely read the campaigns 20190116 19:13:49<+wesdiscordbot> But I do remember plotlines 20190116 19:13:56<+wesdiscordbot> It's one where King Konrad III dies 20190116 19:14:05<+wesdiscordbot> and his son Reginald has to take the crown 20190116 19:14:11<+wesdiscordbot> And fight the new undead horde 20190116 19:14:20<+wesdiscordbot> By uniting all the free living races against them 20190116 20:02:10<+wesdiscordbot> @Inky how r u? 20190116 20:02:59<+wesdiscordbot> How's your fish? 20190116 20:32:36-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20190116 20:48:44<+wesdiscordbot> Hey, I’m doing okay πŸ˜ƒ gotta find some more time to play wesnoth! πŸ˜„ 20190116 20:49:37<+wesdiscordbot> I have a 🐍 not a 🐟 πŸ˜ƒ 20190116 20:53:52<+wesdiscordbot> are you afraid of cats? 20190116 20:54:43<+wesdiscordbot> 🐟 🐍 20190116 20:54:47<+wesdiscordbot> snek chase fish 20190116 20:55:44<+wesdiscordbot> I like cats too 20190116 20:55:55<+wesdiscordbot> really? 20190116 20:56:00<+wesdiscordbot> Ooh so it must be a sea serpent 20190116 20:56:35<+wesdiscordbot> Yeah I like all animals (except bugs..) especially reptiles πŸ˜„ 20190116 20:56:55<+wesdiscordbot> interesting ... 20190116 20:57:25<+wesdiscordbot> https://tenor.com/view/lucas-the-spider-hi-lucasthespider-gif-11121339 20190116 20:57:31<+wesdiscordbot> so even that's not cute? 20190116 20:59:13<+wesdiscordbot> Looks a bit creepy to me with those huge eyes πŸ‘€ 20190116 20:59:24<+wesdiscordbot> lol 20190116 21:00:03<+wesdiscordbot> 🐍 + 🦎 = πŸ‰ 20190116 21:01:51-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at] has joined #wesnoth 20190116 21:02:21<+wesdiscordbot> πŸ”₯πŸ‰ 20190116 21:03:19<+wesdiscordbot> 🐟 πŸ’¦ πŸ”₯ πŸ‰ 20190116 21:03:52<+wesdiscordbot> Merfolk vs drakes 20190116 21:04:18<+wesdiscordbot> @Inky i think drakes win 20190116 21:05:31<+wesdiscordbot> 🐟 πŸ’¦ πŸ’¦ πŸ”₯ πŸ”₯ πŸ‰ 20190116 21:05:42<+wesdiscordbot> 🐟 πŸ’¦ πŸ”₯ πŸ”₯ πŸ”₯ πŸ‰ 20190116 21:05:56<+wesdiscordbot> 🐟 πŸ”₯ πŸ”₯ πŸ”₯ πŸ”₯ πŸ‰ 20190116 21:06:06<+wesdiscordbot> πŸ₯ πŸ‰ 20190116 21:06:16<+wesdiscordbot> nice to know that someone else speaks emoji 20190116 21:06:18<+wesdiscordbot> 🐟🐟🐟. πŸ’€ 20190116 21:06:31<+wesdiscordbot> 🐟🐟. πŸ’€ 20190116 21:07:06<+wesdiscordbot> 🐟🐟+ πŸ‰+πŸ¦‘. βš”. πŸ’€ 20190116 21:07:07<+wesdiscordbot> https://tenor.com/view/fish-gif-8662275 20190116 21:07:17<+wesdiscordbot> 🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟 20190116 21:07:18<+wesdiscordbot> . . 20190116 21:07:19<+wesdiscordbot> o o 20190116 21:07:20<+wesdiscordbot> O O 20190116 21:07:26<+wesdiscordbot> too creepy? 20190116 21:07:29<+wesdiscordbot> The plot of dead water πŸ˜ƒ 20190116 21:10:32<+wesdiscordbot> :bowman: + 🐟 βš” ☠ 20190116 21:10:36<+wesdiscordbot> TSG 20190116 21:11:15< aeth> πŸ˜• 20190116 21:19:17<+wesdiscordbot> πŸ‘Ό 😐 😑 ☠ ☠ ☠ 20190116 21:19:21<+wesdiscordbot> DID 20190116 21:19:56<+wesdiscordbot> IIRC this spider was specifically designed to take fear from spiders away. 20190116 21:20:23<+wesdiscordbot> πŸ’€βš” πŸ€–πŸ€–πŸ€–πŸ€–πŸ€–πŸ€–πŸ€– 20190116 21:20:31<+wesdiscordbot> Iftu and ats 20190116 21:21:01<+wesdiscordbot> sorry, what's iftu? 20190116 21:21:45<+wesdiscordbot> Invasion from the unknown by shadowm it’s an awesome addon! It’s on 1.14 too 20190116 21:21:55<+wesdiscordbot> ah ... 20190116 21:28:00<+wesdiscordbot> @Inky do you think we should start doin mini award shows? 20190116 21:28:10<+wesdiscordbot> for campaigns? 20190116 21:28:39<+wesdiscordbot> What do you mean? 20190116 21:29:08<+wesdiscordbot> y'know like best story, best gameplay, best graphics ... 20190116 21:29:35< Ravana> too subjective 20190116 21:29:50<+wesdiscordbot> what do u mean? 20190116 21:29:59<+wesdiscordbot> You could start a thread in users forum if you want people’s opinions though 20190116 21:30:03< Ravana> how you measure them? 20190116 21:30:43<+wesdiscordbot> maybe have the players vote and then the team members themselves 20190116 21:31:09< Ravana> there are such polls occasionally 20190116 21:31:58<+wesdiscordbot> hmm 20190116 21:32:03<+wesdiscordbot> what about for maps too? 20190116 21:50:01<+wesdiscordbot> πŸ‘» βš” :bowman: πŸ€– πŸ‘Ί IftU/AtS 20190116 21:54:45<+wesdiscordbot> time for PastaSaucey's Fact of the Day 20190116 21:54:47<+wesdiscordbot> In 1895, Hampshire police handed out the first ever speeding ticket, fining a man for doing 6mph. 20190116 22:03:52-!- Tobbi__ is now known as Tobbi 20190116 23:00:00-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20190116 23:22:58-!- Narrat [~Narrat@p5DCC61D8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20190116 23:30:04-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] --- Log closed Thu Jan 17 00:00:34 2019