--- Log opened Fri Feb 08 00:00:09 2019 20190208 00:57:56-!- irker926 [~irker@wesnoth/umc-dev/bot/shikadibot] has quit [Quit: transmission timeout] 20190208 01:45:51-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20190208 01:48:01-!- irker194 [~irker@wesnoth/umc-dev/bot/shikadibot] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190208 01:48:01< irker194> wesnoth/wesnoth:master Lovens Weche 3de014508d Bug #3903 Fix. AppVeyor: All builds passed 20190208 02:09:54-!- wedge009 [~Thunderbi@60-241-236-92.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20190208 03:45:45<+wesdiscordbot> @Konrad2 @Inky I've finished making a revised version of DiD (which is now on the add-on server), any help you could give playtesting would be much appreciated 😄 20190208 04:34:59< irker194> wesnoth/wesnoth:master nemaara f39cbed87d DiD S11: added extra dialogue AppVeyor: All builds passed 20190208 06:10:09-!- celmin|away is now known as celmin|sleep 20190208 06:26:20< irker194> wesnoth/wesnoth:master nemaara b6794083c7 DiD S12: modified easter egg AppVeyor: All builds passed 20190208 07:21:14<+wesdiscordbot> @Yumi just how many TSG changes did you make 20190208 07:22:26<+wesdiscordbot> a lot, why 20190208 07:23:08<+wesdiscordbot> hundreds? 20190208 07:23:18<+wesdiscordbot> a translator emailed the ML asking why so many strings were changed 20190208 07:23:30<+wesdiscordbot> yes, possibly hundreds 20190208 07:23:41<+wesdiscordbot> jesus 20190208 07:23:43<+wesdiscordbot> were they good? 20190208 07:23:50<+wesdiscordbot> that 20190208 07:23:56<+wesdiscordbot> is a very weird question to be asking me 😂 20190208 07:24:03<+wesdiscordbot> I just mean 20190208 07:24:10<+wesdiscordbot> was there a good reason to make them 20190208 07:24:11<+wesdiscordbot> I'm guessing around 200-300 string changes 20190208 07:24:22<+wesdiscordbot> isn't it kinda late to be asking that? 20190208 07:24:32<+wesdiscordbot> well yes 20190208 07:24:38<+wesdiscordbot> im just hoping the answer isn't no 20190208 07:24:47<+wesdiscordbot> well, DiD is getting the same treatment 20190208 07:24:48<+wesdiscordbot> so rip 20190208 07:24:55<+wesdiscordbot> poor translators 20190208 07:24:56<+wesdiscordbot> but I'm done after this 20190208 07:25:25<+wesdiscordbot> well yea, that's why we said at least a few weeks for translating 20190208 07:25:27<+wesdiscordbot> The translator says this is an unexpected number of changes 20190208 07:25:48<+wesdiscordbot> if they need more time, we could give more? 20190208 07:26:34<+wesdiscordbot> isn't the reason for having a month-long string freeze because it wasn't really unexpected though? 20190208 07:27:13<+wesdiscordbot> it's probably unexpected to translators because we didn't give them any notice 20190208 07:28:12<+wesdiscordbot> I mean, http://mailman.wesnoth.org/pipermail/i18n/2019-January/000029.html says "Since there are quite a lot of string changes since 1.14.5, I'm giving everyone a month to work on translations." 20190208 07:29:15<+wesdiscordbot> hmmm 20190208 07:29:22<+wesdiscordbot> I wonder why this command doesn't work 20190208 07:29:32<+wesdiscordbot> grep -rc '[message]' 20190208 07:29:36<+wesdiscordbot> I guess they're feeling a bit miffed 20190208 07:29:39<+wesdiscordbot> it's not giving the correct values 20190208 07:29:42<+wesdiscordbot> since they said they had it 100% translated 20190208 07:29:43<+wesdiscordbot> now it's not 20190208 07:30:21<+wesdiscordbot> sry D: 20190208 07:30:27<+wesdiscordbot> but, perhaps if we let them know ahead of time now 20190208 07:30:31<+wesdiscordbot> it would be a bit better? 20190208 07:30:39<+wesdiscordbot> I'm confused 20190208 07:31:03<+wesdiscordbot> I swear vultraz knew this was going to be the case 20190208 07:31:12<+wesdiscordbot> well I didn't realize it was that many 20190208 07:31:15<+wesdiscordbot> We discussed this at some point 20190208 07:31:25<+wesdiscordbot> wtf 20190208 07:31:27<+wesdiscordbot> I don't understand 20190208 07:31:29<+wesdiscordbot> how do I use grep 20190208 07:31:40<+wesdiscordbot> no one knows 20190208 07:31:40<+wesdiscordbot> Use 20190208 07:31:48<+wesdiscordbot> fgrep 20190208 07:31:49<+wesdiscordbot> instead of grep 20190208 07:32:02<+wesdiscordbot> 👏 20190208 07:32:04<+wesdiscordbot> shadowm my savior 20190208 07:32:06<+wesdiscordbot> Because otherwise the brackets are understood as part of the regex syntax 20190208 07:32:21<+wesdiscordbot> not counting storytext 20190208 07:32:26<+wesdiscordbot> DiD will be 20190208 07:32:47< Ravana> use \[ and \] 20190208 07:32:55<+wesdiscordbot> 40+20+53+13+11+64+13+29+20+56+108+85=512 strings ish 20190208 07:32:58<+wesdiscordbot> yikes 20190208 07:33:05<+wesdiscordbot> ..... 20190208 07:33:05<+wesdiscordbot> not all of which are changed 20190208 07:33:06<+wesdiscordbot> D: 20190208 07:33:10<+wesdiscordbot> I can hold it for 1.14.8 20190208 07:33:23<+wesdiscordbot> or even hold half of it 20190208 07:33:37< Ravana> I see discord can't show it, but it is correctly in logs at least 20190208 07:33:57<+wesdiscordbot> so if S1-6 go in 1.14.7 20190208 07:34:13<+wesdiscordbot> and then 7-12 go in 1.14.8, that's a split between 200 and 312 between the 2 20190208 07:34:24<+wesdiscordbot> gameplay-wise I don't think it's a big deal to do that 20190208 07:34:50<+wesdiscordbot> because the balance hasn't changed terribly much 20190208 07:36:00<+wesdiscordbot> does it make sense to do that rather than giving 1.14.7 a longer string freeze again? 20190208 07:36:24<+wesdiscordbot> it's the same amount either way 20190208 07:37:14<+wesdiscordbot> 8+2+2+2+5+3+7+3+6+21=59 total number of story part strings 20190208 07:37:16<+wesdiscordbot> according to grep 20190208 07:37:32<+wesdiscordbot> so approximate maximum string changes is 512+59 = 571 20190208 07:37:51<+wesdiscordbot> maybe that's up to translators, would be nice to hear what they think 20190208 07:54:41<+wesdiscordbot> @Vultraz "a translator emailed the ML asking why so many strings were changed" 20190208 07:54:57<+wesdiscordbot> Uh, I haven't seen such an email and I'm subscribed to the mailing list. 20190208 07:55:15<+wesdiscordbot> I don't see such an email in the archives, either: http://mailman.wesnoth.org/pipermail/i18n/2019-January/thread.html 20190208 07:55:53<+wesdiscordbot> Ah, sorry, it was a reply to my strange freeze announcement sent directly to me and ivanovic 20190208 07:56:57<+wesdiscordbot> OK, I see. (No need to apologize; it's the translator's fault for responding directly to you instead of posting to the ML.) 20190208 08:25:24-!- wedge009 [~Thunderbi@60-241-236-92.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190208 08:43:42< irker194> wesnoth/wesnoth:master josteph 6f5adfc056 Addon manager: Make exceptions derive fr AppVeyor: All builds passed 20190208 09:39:15-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190208 11:23:10< irker194> wesnoth/wesnoth:1.14 josteph a0d04de228 Addon manager: Make exceptions derive fr AppVeyor: All builds passed 20190208 12:41:25<+wesdiscordbot> (Eastern Invasion) I got a loyal Paladin in Mal-Ravanal's Capital who was automatically recalled in the next scenario. Why is he being recalled in this scenario but not in future scenarios? 20190208 12:41:49<+wesdiscordbot> Btw, Bone Knights can't earn xp (missing standard AMLA macro?) 20190208 12:52:03-!- gfgtdf [~androirc@x4d014b40.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190208 13:00:05< Soliton> he is recalled in most following scenarios. 20190208 13:00:25<+wesdiscordbot> @zookeeper You wrote ~2 years ago that you'd fix/look into the lack of an early finish bonus (which is still present today) in EI - The Northern Outpost. Was there some kind of result or did you simply forgot? 20190208 13:00:57<+wesdiscordbot> Soliton: Oh, okay, I only went to the next two Scenarios. My bad. ^^ 20190208 13:10:52< zookeeper> @Konrad2 err, probably i just forgot. was it in response to someone having changed it to no bonus? 20190208 13:11:14-!- celmin|sleep is now known as celmin|away 20190208 13:12:16<+wesdiscordbot> zookeeper: It kinda looks like that. https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=597850#p597850 20190208 13:25:33-!- gfgtdf [~androirc@x4d014b40.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20190208 13:29:19< irker194> wesnoth/wesnoth:1.14 Andrius Štikonas 53f1704a1a Fix some spelling issues AppVeyor: All builds passed 20190208 16:29:53-!- irker194 [~irker@wesnoth/umc-dev/bot/shikadibot] has quit [Quit: transmission timeout] 20190208 16:42:24-!- irker813 [~irker@wesnoth/umc-dev/bot/shikadibot] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190208 16:42:24< irker813> wesnoth: Nils Kneuper wesnoth:1.14 a4d550b0d6a8 / po/ (wesnoth-lib/fr.po wesnoth/fr.po): updated French translation https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/a4d550b0d6a806043188bc6408d5862620aa7110 20190208 16:42:24< irker813> wesnoth: Nils Kneuper wesnoth:1.14 7b164ab308eb / po/ (18 files in 18 dirs): updated Italian translation https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/7b164ab308eb6bc70efa3d7bc8c6114104aa0472 20190208 16:42:29< irker813> wesnoth: Nils Kneuper wesnoth:master 65a2377c589f / po/ (wesnoth-lib/fr.po wesnoth/fr.po): updated French translation https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/65a2377c589fa1d1f9ad5f46094a04a9661a11e7 20190208 16:42:31< irker813> wesnoth: Nils Kneuper wesnoth:master 702f93def9b7 / po/ (18 files in 18 dirs): updated Italian translation https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/702f93def9b727cf2c2deae6560d025fa108826b 20190208 17:43:52-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190208 18:05:22-!- boucman [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190208 19:42:41-!- irker813 [~irker@wesnoth/umc-dev/bot/shikadibot] has quit [Quit: transmission timeout] 20190208 20:58:37-!- irker526 [~irker@wesnoth/umc-dev/bot/shikadibot] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190208 20:58:37< irker526> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 2f54ecbc53ab / src/display_chat_manager.cpp: fix display chat messages disappearing https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/2f54ecbc53abe69a294b5384b974537d84efa80d 20190208 21:58:42< irker526> wesnoth/wesnoth:master gfgtdf 2f54ecbc53 fix display chat messages disappearing AppVeyor: vs2015/Release Failed 20190208 21:58:43< irker526> Details: https://ci.appveyor.com/project/wesnoth/wesnoth-7lnpw/builds/22235609 20190208 22:56:18< Ravana> I have noticed some unknown address messages like '20190208 23:35:36 Narcazan aborted game: "Narcazan’s game" (17) and disconnected. (socket: 0x55cc52615b80)' from lobby channel recently 20190208 22:57:07< Ravana> the fact I see them is bug in my message parser code, but I think these are not supposed to be visible there either 20190208 23:35:09-!- boucman [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20190208 23:50:47< irker526> wesnoth/wesnoth:1.14 Nils Kneuper 7b164ab308 updated Italian translation AppVeyor: All builds passed --- Log closed Sat Feb 09 00:00:04 2019