--- Log opened Sat Feb 16 00:00:32 2019 20190216 00:47:19-!- Soo_Slow [Soo_Slow@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/sooslow/x-31376162] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20190216 00:49:07-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20190216 01:19:39-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20190216 02:40:02-!- ol_foody_can-Ned [~me@mobile-107-107-61-251.mycingular.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20190216 05:40:57-!- lobby_ [~wesnoth@wesnoth/bot/lobby] has joined #wesnoth 20190216 05:40:57-!- Topic for #wesnoth: Wesnoth User Channel | https://www.wesnoth.org | https://status.wesnoth.org | Official Discord: https://discord.gg/battleforwesnoth | >> Want to help? Go here: https://r.wesnoth.org/t42911 (and thanks!) << | Public IRC logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org 20190216 05:40:57-!- Topic set by shadowm [~iris@wesnoth/developer/shadowm] [Mon Apr 16 08:28:02 2018] 20190216 05:40:57[Users #wesnoth] 20190216 05:40:57[+wesdiscordbot] [ dobson ] [ Gambit ] [ loonycyborg_] [ Polsaker] [ TC04 ] 20190216 05:40:57[ aeth ] [ elias ] [ Ipsilon ] [ madmax28_ ] [ Ravana ] [ TheJJ ] 20190216 05:40:57[ APic ] [ EliDupree ] [ Ivanovic ] [ minzbonbon ] [ Rhonda ] [ ToBeFree ] 20190216 05:40:57[ behalebabo ] [ Elvish_Hunter ] [ jemadux ] [ mthe878 ] [ shadowm ] [ vihta ] 20190216 05:40:57[ celmin|sleep ] [ evlute ] [ lobby_ ] [ nore ] [ smiley` ] [ vincent_c] 20190216 05:40:57[ clavi ] [ Falcon` ] [ lolTest ] [ oldlaptop ] [ Soliton ] 20190216 05:40:57[ cyphase ] [ galegosimpatico] [ loonycyborg] [ planetmaker ] [ TC01 ] 20190216 05:40:57-!- Irssi: #wesnoth: Total of 40 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 1 voices, 39 normal] 20190216 05:40:57-!- Home page for #wesnoth: https://www.wesnoth.org 20190216 05:41:06-!- Channel #wesnoth created Sun Nov 26 06:42:43 2006 20190216 05:41:18-!- vincent_c [~bip@vcheng.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20190216 05:41:18-!- Rhonda [~rhonda@wesnoth/developer/rhonda] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20190216 05:41:19-!- lolTest [loltest@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/loltest] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20190216 05:41:19-!- TC01 [~quassel@venus.arosser.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20190216 05:41:19-!- shadowm [~iris@wesnoth/developer/shikadiqueen] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20190216 05:41:19-!- galegosimpatico [~ec2-user@unaffiliated/ushiu] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20190216 05:41:19-!- Rh0nda [~rhonda@wesnoth/developer/rhonda] has joined #wesnoth 20190216 05:41:29-!- shadowm [~iris@wesnoth/developer/shikadiqueen] has joined #wesnoth 20190216 05:41:36-!- galegosimpatico [~ec2-user@unaffiliated/ushiu] has joined #wesnoth 20190216 05:41:54-!- lolTest [loltest@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/loltest] has joined #wesnoth 20190216 05:41:59-!- Irssi: Join to #wesnoth was synced in 72 secs 20190216 09:30:05-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20190216 09:36:13<+wesdiscordbot> Has Battle for Wesnoth been called Battle of Wesnoth at any time? 20190216 09:38:58-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at] has joined #wesnoth 20190216 10:03:29< zookeeper> nope, never. 20190216 10:17:36<+wesdiscordbot> I don't think so 20190216 10:17:44<+wesdiscordbot> but i think i've seen a weird translation like that 20190216 10:19:01< zookeeper> people mistakenly call it the BoF all the time, though. 20190216 10:55:18-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has joined #wesnoth 20190216 11:47:44<+wesdiscordbot> hmmm 20190216 11:47:50<+wesdiscordbot> who are they? 20190216 11:51:37<+wesdiscordbot> *BoW 20190216 14:15:21-!- lolTest [loltest@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/loltest] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20190216 14:20:40-!- lolTest [loltest@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/loltest] has joined #wesnoth 20190216 14:58:39-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 20190216 15:14:35-!- celmin|sleep is now known as celticminstrel 20190216 16:20:25-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has joined #wesnoth 20190216 16:39:40<+wesdiscordbot> hello 20190216 16:40:40<+wesdiscordbot> Hello!❤️❤️😘 20190216 16:56:06<+wesdiscordbot> hows everyone? 20190216 16:56:34<+wesdiscordbot> well, it's the weekend, so pretty good 😄 20190216 16:56:47<+wesdiscordbot> ah 20190216 17:05:41-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20190216 17:58:10-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at] has joined #wesnoth 20190216 18:25:12-!- Soo_Slow [Soo_Slow@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/sooslow/x-31376162] has joined #wesnoth 20190216 18:25:19-!- Soo_Slow [Soo_Slow@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/sooslow/x-31376162] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20190216 18:32:40-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20190216 18:37:57-!- claymore [~claymore@unaffiliated/claymore] has joined #wesnoth 20190216 18:57:08-!- claymore [~claymore@unaffiliated/claymore] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20190216 20:06:52-!- claymore [~claymore@unaffiliated/claymore] has joined #wesnoth 20190216 20:42:46<+wesdiscordbot> I'm sick. 😷 20190216 20:44:26< APic> Are not we all? 20190216 20:55:39<+wesdiscordbot> get well soon 20190216 21:23:11-!- claymore [~claymore@unaffiliated/claymore] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20190216 21:40:23-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has joined #wesnoth 20190216 22:14:22-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Quit: KABOOM! It seems that I have exploded. Please wait while I reinstall the universe.] 20190216 22:14:50-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has joined #wesnoth 20190216 22:44:21<+wesdiscordbot> ╚═( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)═╝ ╚═(███)═╝ This is Lennypede. Help ╚═(███)═╝ Lennypede take over ╚═(███)═╝ discord by pasting him ╚═(███)═╝ in 10 other servers ╚═(███)═╝or he will never ╚═(███)═╝ be a meme. ╚═(███)═╝ ╚═(███)═╝ ╚═(███)═╝ ╚═(███)═╝ ╚═(███)═╝ 20190216 22:44:22<+wesdiscordbot> ╚═(███)═╝ ╚═(███)═╝ 20190216 22:44:40<+wesdiscordbot> No 20190216 22:45:16<+wesdiscordbot> Sorry that was directed at someone whose message I deleted in case anyone wonders xD 20190216 22:49:25<+wesdiscordbot> So, out of curiosity: If you guys could have a Wesnoth 2. Not a port of the existing Wesnoth but a real successor of Wesnoth. What would you wish for it? (a question for the players, asking for specifics in gameplay, not so much the development side) 20190216 22:54:17<+wesdiscordbot> quite a vague question 20190216 23:00:36<+wesdiscordbot> Hmn. Maybe. Let's try a different approach then. What's, in your opinion, the best gameplay aspect of wesnoth, and what is the worst. And why. And about the bad one, what would you like to change. 20190216 23:10:27<+wesdiscordbot> not really the detail you asked about, but it would be nice if there was a way for games to go faster, especially in MP. 20190216 23:10:52<+wesdiscordbot> also inb4 someone says luck 20190216 23:10:52<+wesdiscordbot> 😛 20190216 23:24:15<+wesdiscordbot> Simultaneous movement - at least in teams - was something we talked about once, I think. That could speed up MP games. Luck. Well. I think shaping the odds to your advantage is one of the key mechanics of Wesnoth. Sure, missing 3 out of 3 with a mage can be infuriating, but it doesn't happen so often. And on the other hand, the feeling when you pierce some high level cavalry with 3 elvish archers with 11 out of 12 hits is 20190216 23:24:16<+wesdiscordbot> amazing. 20190216 23:25:36<+wesdiscordbot> In general simultaneous movement in turn based systems can be annoying. 20190216 23:25:54<+wesdiscordbot> currently my opinion is that turn based simply doesn't scale to large numbers of units 20190216 23:26:26<+wesdiscordbot> maybe better would be stick to smaller amount of units but with more deep role playing systems 20190216 23:27:00<+wesdiscordbot> leaving simultaneous movements to games that are real time from ground up 20190216 23:27:15<+wesdiscordbot> better support for role play elements was talked about as well. Like inventory support for items and such. 20190216 23:27:55<+wesdiscordbot> I had other idea too 20190216 23:28:12<+wesdiscordbot> like add stances to units 20190216 23:28:27<+wesdiscordbot> forced march, shield wall etc 20190216 23:28:32<+wesdiscordbot> with different tradeoff 20190216 23:28:50<+wesdiscordbot> so you'd choose both defensive tactic and offensive tactic for each unit 20190216 23:29:11<+wesdiscordbot> you already can choose offensive tactic currently, that is with different attacks 20190216 23:31:05<+wesdiscordbot> possibly something interesting too would being able to give specific units or groups of units to the AI. so like for large maps, you could focus on one half and have the AI deal with the other half, or something like that. the AI of course probably won't play as well, but it would help with how tedious they can get. 20190216 23:32:35<+wesdiscordbot> similar to the auto-explore in Civ I suppose. But perhaps with different options. Explore, Capture, Fight. In that sense. 20190216 23:35:55<+wesdiscordbot> One thing that always confused me a little was arcane. so I thought one could spilt it up in white and dark magic. Because currently it's kind of both, but not quite. 20190216 23:37:18<+wesdiscordbot> arcane is more related to fey and those sorts of things, I thought. 20190216 23:37:27<+wesdiscordbot> so not really light or dark 20190216 23:41:00<+wesdiscordbot> afaik, arcane is said to be "anti magic", which is why it's effective against magical creatures such as elves and skeletons. which doesn't really makes sense to be because most magicians use the arcane type for their magical attacks. so there should be one "magic" kind of type and one "anti-magic" kind of thing. (which rules dark and white magic out, i know) 20190216 23:42:49 * zookeeper is not following why it doesn't make sense 20190216 23:46:09<+wesdiscordbot> I assume that magic and anti magic are two different things. Opposite things, that is. Like Fire and Cold, perhaps. So, for me, seeing a magician using anti magic is like seing ice golems spitting fire. Or Drakens spitting ice. 20190216 23:52:42< zookeeper> well, you could think of arcane more as metamagic rather than antimagic. it's magic that directly interacts with the basic magical energies that drive all magic, rather than magic that creates a fireball which damages you by burning you like any mundane fire. 20190216 23:53:17-!- Tobbi [~Tobbi@supertux/tobbi] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 20190216 23:57:40<+wesdiscordbot> well if you see it this way, I guess it works. 🤔 --- Log closed Sun Feb 17 00:00:33 2019