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20190308 00:56:15< irker270> wesnoth/wesnoth:master Allefant 0d7f227bd2 make wesnoth_addon_manager -l escape new AppVeyor: All builds passed
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20190308 01:19:36< irker270> Details: https://ci.appveyor.com/project/wesnoth/wesnoth-605wt/builds/22913126
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20190308 05:16:36< irker422> wesnoth/wesnoth:1.14 nemaara 06837f7702 Update changelog with unit description r AppVeyor: All builds passed
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20190308 06:19:37< irker422> Details vs2017/Release: https://ci.appveyor.com/project/wesnoth/wesnoth-605wt/builds/22913126
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20190308 08:26:29< irker422> wesnoth/wesnoth:master nemaara f9716b24f9 DiD S12: add po comment about easter egg AppVeyor: All builds passed
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20190308 09:31:24< irker422> wesnoth/wesnoth:master nemaara ac169c426d DiD S12: add po comment about easter egg AppVeyor: All builds passed
20190308 09:44:56< Rhonda> Darn!  I totally overlooked the wesnoth 1.14.6 update for buster.  :'(
20190308 11:29:06<+wesdiscordbot> <sevu> Rhonda, not the worst. We didn't catch up with the translation for 1.14.6
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20190308 12:32:40< Rhonda> sevu: Well.  I have it lying around since like two weeks finished and done, just not pushed. :(  https://salsa.debian.org/games-team/wesnoth/commits/master
20190308 13:00:37< Rhonda> lol.  You said "didn't catch up with the translation", I test-start it, select the south guard as mission to test on, see a lot of english text …  and it's that one campaign that has lower than 30% translation.  Oo
20190308 13:02:02< Rhonda> And … wesnoth-trow …  really?  It had to get to 1000 straight translateable strings?  :)
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20190308 13:30:30< Rhonda> Hmm.  Can I somehow get a list of people online on discord through wesdiscordbot?
20190308 13:34:11< Soliton> i don't think so.
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20190308 15:30:57< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:master a2f9562979ec / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Rider.cfg: UtBS: update tauroch rider description https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/a2f9562979ec23b73334ad2146ee1d80b03cd0cc
20190308 15:30:57< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:master 517dd00c24bd / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Vanguard.cfg: UtBS: update vanguard description https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/517dd00c24bd4b5bc531557e4c603585c4311f7a
20190308 15:30:58< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:master da9177f5467a / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Flagbearer.cfg: UtBS: update flagbearer description https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/da9177f5467a61fdd0f7b28e46f98683f9a077c8
20190308 15:30:59< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:master 2f140ff500f8 / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Stalwart.cfg: UtBS: update stalwart description https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/2f140ff500f8acb8a3a593ffea9db76312b81f16
20190308 15:31:00< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:master 393277bdedf9 / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Protector.cfg: UtBS: update protector description https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/393277bdedf9e43e958c805b8a58fd5e9132a8cd
20190308 15:31:01< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:master 8718643ff308 / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Flagbearer.cfg: UtBS: flagbearer description wording https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/8718643ff3082a7b92a94b3ac409c82429be25fa
20190308 15:31:03< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:master 0ae30557bcdd / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Protector.cfg: UtBS: protector description wording https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/0ae30557bcdda7ebdeef573c7d991a65fb96ca24
20190308 15:31:05< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:master 2ed3be0601fe / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Mystic.cfg: UtBS: update mystic description https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/2ed3be0601fea9d8ee38e995837fd35c561e4c63
20190308 15:31:07< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:master e9dbe5d47319 / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Shaman.cfg: UtBS: update shaman description https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/e9dbe5d47319ca053b03819ffde1a7dc2ac0f311
20190308 15:31:09< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:master 80a2aa096261 / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Sun_Singer.cfg: UtBS: update sun singer description https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/80a2aa0962612b6b50b61493c7436f5a04b919ca
20190308 15:31:11< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:master 26239ae02f91 / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Sun_Sylph.cfg: UtBS: update sun sylph description https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/26239ae02f91a9fa9e5b1f8a4bd9da901748fb13
20190308 15:31:13< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:master 7405d2adebb2 / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Scout.cfg: UtBS: update scout description https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/7405d2adebb260040ace991c672759a9a363f2eb
20190308 15:31:15< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:master 1a32166c4dcc / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Pathfinder.cfg: UtBS: update pathfinder description https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/1a32166c4dcc4a40c1992ea6248ae9aa8e24f3fe
20190308 15:31:17< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:master 89eaa6a7bc45 / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Outrider.cfg: UtBS: update outrider description https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/89eaa6a7bc45bdda87da08c6bbeaf896d339a7b6
20190308 15:31:19< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:master 65f131ded485 / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Archer.cfg: UtBS: update archer description https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/65f131ded4852cc77b19ad2cb20f062830486165
20190308 15:31:21< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:master a81775a0f459 / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Marksman.cfg: UtBS: update marksman description https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/a81775a0f45916d8e7eeb2ce99483758fa44fa8e
20190308 15:31:23< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:master 0ddc56c9c11b / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Fighter.cfg: UtBS: update fighter description https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/0ddc56c9c11b704c5605d6b4cc2f5f6d680d47ba
20190308 15:31:25< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:master f788068d0aa3 / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Flanker.cfg: UtBS: update flanker description https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/f788068d0aa3b50afb027224c22e5a282c59df01
20190308 15:31:27< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:master ddf9a99e4f56 / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Ranger.cfg: UtBS: add ranger description https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/ddf9a99e4f561390973c2d881314afc066cca145
20190308 15:31:29< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:master aea8abb94d87 / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Fighter.cfg: UtBS: update fighter description https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/aea8abb94d8738ac65283689a2cf5e0e9ea329c0
20190308 15:31:31< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:master bcc13428c87f / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Flagbearer.cfg: UtBS: update flagbearer description wording https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/bcc13428c87ffdcfc3fc32a92dd1422ea24781d2
20190308 15:31:33< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:master b51d091eb702 / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Marksman.cfg: UtBS: update marksman description wording https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/b51d091eb7022d3449fad1a1e3708346a08091e2
20190308 15:31:35< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:master f1ccd994c44c / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Pathfinder.cfg: UtBS: update pathfinder description https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/f1ccd994c44c305c28127eb2fbf7789038b6c24b
20190308 15:31:37< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:master 2a56e0cbbd72 / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Protector.cfg: UtBS: shorten protector description https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/2a56e0cbbd722977a9d4a760df69ec56a5dcbc9d
20190308 15:31:39< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:master 3c8cb7347a7f / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Ranger.cfg: UtBS: ranger description wording https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/3c8cb7347a7f9a0551921f13862e168d607c557a
20190308 15:31:41< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:master 8b58297e21f7 / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Scout.cfg: UtBS: scout description wording https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/8b58297e21f7189d7ae4ced895d7d102692bed28
20190308 15:31:43< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:master d7d66903c59f / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Shaman.cfg: UtBS: shaman description wording https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/d7d66903c59fb1b4530b6dcdf131d634b65f769a
20190308 15:31:45< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:master 3eef2dee72b4 / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Sun_Singer.cfg: UtBS: Sun Singer description wording https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/3eef2dee72b45fd9cb571f35539e9b90e6898836
20190308 15:31:47< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:master 3c562378c916 / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Sun_Sylph.cfg: UtBS: update Sun Sylph description https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/3c562378c91655f8e920d8bc4086aee119e4564b
20190308 15:31:49< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:master 7f70ef5e38fd / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Warrior.cfg: UtBS: add warrior description https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/7f70ef5e38fda06cb09750b635c03cd0c76e57c1
20190308 15:31:51< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:master a36c8713d9c5 / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Champion.cfg: UtBS: add champion description https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/a36c8713d9c564fbe175ea123bf3bbb0da0a29f7
20190308 15:31:53< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:master 2c4570f7dbee / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Druid.cfg: UtBS: add druid description https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/2c4570f7dbee283a9545d684487152539c187135
20190308 15:31:55< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:master 9e271934ff10 / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Shyde.cfg: UtBS: add shyde description https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/9e271934ff10b9c2b6fc676f046a89183659fe40
20190308 15:31:57< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:master a6b9367421b3 / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/ (Champion.cfg Druid.cfg Ranger.cfg Shyde.cfg Warrior.cfg): UtBS: make unit descriptions translatable https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/a6b9367421b3344d85e204870af3878c7c04abb9
20190308 15:31:59< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:master ff205ce9262e / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/ (21 files): Merge pull request #3958 from nemaara/UTBS https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/ff205ce9262ea00810f3497ee36919849101e6a3
20190308 15:32:36< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:master 6dd39915a5b6 / changelog.md: Update changelog with Quenoth descriptions https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/6dd39915a5b6b924a7ee8f03011fe78a53961457
20190308 15:36:38< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:1.14 948da5275474 / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Vanguard.cfg: UtBS: update vanguard description https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/948da52754746fba8436b8f3c484b5bfcdb40694
20190308 15:36:41< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:1.14 bbb19abd299f / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Flagbearer.cfg: UtBS: update flagbearer description https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/bbb19abd299f55bed796445a14d768c547789cdd
20190308 15:36:43< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:1.14 eebcf0caa0e7 / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Stalwart.cfg: UtBS: update stalwart description https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/eebcf0caa0e7b6bcb2a257d40e1f6a416bdb68e6
20190308 15:36:45< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:1.14 2376e4d8353c / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Protector.cfg: UtBS: update protector description https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/2376e4d8353c428d86f52bd0a7de05fd4a7e0071
20190308 15:36:47< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:1.14 fc525523ff00 / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Flagbearer.cfg: UtBS: flagbearer description wording https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/fc525523ff001363eff5ce1d43a90bdd22e3746c
20190308 15:36:49< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:1.14 3ac748d50d3f / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Protector.cfg: UtBS: protector description wording https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/3ac748d50d3f3132423b9314f77001b691b2598e
20190308 15:36:51< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:1.14 5bc99a5e0a13 / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Mystic.cfg: UtBS: update mystic description https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/5bc99a5e0a13bf782ac959d069236943cd3c8fb5
20190308 15:36:53< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:1.14 ee46e19f2fb2 / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Shaman.cfg: UtBS: update shaman description https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/ee46e19f2fb22364cd2bf05ce49054584ee718b7
20190308 15:36:55< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:1.14 2b643e7d2e8c / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Sun_Singer.cfg: UtBS: update sun singer description https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/2b643e7d2e8cc618dbed733e7a08817562489394
20190308 15:36:57< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:1.14 fe46d7f4ce11 / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Sun_Sylph.cfg: UtBS: update sun sylph description https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/fe46d7f4ce114b38ff47e4fb879a625f8602822e
20190308 15:36:59< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:1.14 92cfc81f0878 / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Scout.cfg: UtBS: update scout description https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/92cfc81f087856f65d2c0743d4ff1c8113bcb65f
20190308 15:37:01< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:1.14 1b03cafef57d / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Pathfinder.cfg: UtBS: update pathfinder description https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/1b03cafef57dc32d1820e54cecc7ecabf88a4c9c
20190308 15:37:03< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:1.14 5b15125980e5 / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Outrider.cfg: UtBS: update outrider description https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/5b15125980e5bee4003fdb16e8dd95224582a0fb
20190308 15:37:05< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:1.14 d231bfbbe5bf / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Archer.cfg: UtBS: update archer description https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/d231bfbbe5bf0cf29b7d67086f318827eff2e93f
20190308 15:37:07< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:1.14 a1581e24d5ef / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Marksman.cfg: UtBS: update marksman description https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/a1581e24d5ef3378e3c9335e981f5c05ae64acad
20190308 15:37:09< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:1.14 868c48922541 / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Fighter.cfg: UtBS: update fighter description https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/868c489225411c95f78d89177e7707744e5bd1f2
20190308 15:37:10< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:1.14 3fd3bd2e4787 / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Flanker.cfg: UtBS: update flanker description https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/3fd3bd2e478713588e051159e0617b4b5d53b991
20190308 15:37:13< irker383> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:1.14 1fafb2f66c57 / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/quenoth/Ranger.cfg: UtBS: add ranger description https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/1fafb2f66c57e4574aa5c312e83cf8bdccae3d31
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20190308 15:53:26<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> @Iris It's as I said in the linked comment: if you have a Red Mage with 990/1000XP and another with 90/100XP, it's not really important how many XP they have already accumulated. Gameplay wise only the remaining XP is important, so only show that.
20190308 15:53:42<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> The argument breaks down when Ravana's XP mod is in use.
20190308 15:58:43<+wesdiscordbot> <Iris> Yeah I still don't know what that's supposed to mean sorry
20190308 15:59:27<+wesdiscordbot> <Iris> (Or why it's a presentational issue rather than an algorithmic one)
20190308 16:00:40<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> Suppose you have to sacrifice a Red Mage due to some tactical circumstances
20190308 16:00:57<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> Which would be better to sacrifice, one with 90/100XP or one with 9990/10000XP ?
20190308 16:02:00<+wesdiscordbot> <Iris> I cannot answer that question without looking at their stats
20190308 16:02:18<+wesdiscordbot> <Iris> If one of them is quick+intelligent I'll sacrifice it regardless of anything else
20190308 16:03:07<+wesdiscordbot> <Iris> If they're at AMLA stage then I can sacrifice whichever is the one that can perform the mission best (depending on whether I need them to hold the line for a bit or whatever)
20190308 16:03:22<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> everything is equal apart from the XP
20190308 16:03:44<+wesdiscordbot> <Iris> Sacrificing units based on the amount of XP they require to advance is not great tactical planning in this game
20190308 16:03:52<+wesdiscordbot> <Iris> (based on that alone)
20190308 16:04:07<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> Of course it isn't, but that's not what I'm proposing
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20190308 16:04:16<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> I am trying to give a minimal example
20190308 16:04:24<+wesdiscordbot> <Iris> It's what you're using to try to explain and justify what you're proposing though :p
20190308 16:04:32<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> If two units are equal in everything except XP, which unit is then better to sacrifice?
20190308 16:04:36<+wesdiscordbot> <Iris> I can't work with a lopsided example that doesn't make sense in a real gameplay situation
20190308 16:04:46<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> Okay
20190308 16:04:56<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> So let me try to put this another way
20190308 16:05:02<+wesdiscordbot> <Iris> The one with the highest XP requirement is the best sacrifice option in that case
20190308 16:05:15<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> Suppose I added a menu item that increases both unit.experience and unit.max_experience by 50
20190308 16:05:18<+wesdiscordbot> <Iris> The reason is not in your context though -- XP requirement increases for each level
20190308 16:05:19<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> would that change anything ?
20190308 16:05:43<+wesdiscordbot> <Iris> So if you throw a unit with 10,000 XP at me I'll expect it to be a waste of time to keep it around at the next level with a 15,000 XP req or so
20190308 16:06:26<+wesdiscordbot> <Iris> Give me a moment to think about that one, maths are not my forte
20190308 16:06:30<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> yeah, yeah, in my full example on I had to explicitly spell out "they will have the same XP requirement when they make it to lvl3"precisely to rule this out 😃
20190308 16:06:42<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> ⏳
20190308 16:06:54<+wesdiscordbot> <Iris> Yes it changes a lot because you're not changing the XP gain
20190308 16:07:09<+wesdiscordbot> <Iris> So everyone will take longer to level up since they're getting the same amount of XP per kill still
20190308 16:07:25<+wesdiscordbot> <Iris> That being max(4, 8*level) XP
20190308 16:07:30<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> Note that I increase both unit.experience and unit.max_experience.
20190308 16:07:42<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> Both of them simultaneously.
20190308 16:07:52<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> If it started as 40/100XP it then becomes 90/150XP, for example
20190308 16:07:58<+wesdiscordbot> <Iris> Neither of them participates in the formula for calculating XP gain per kill
20190308 16:08:04<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> then 140XP/200XP. And so on every time the menu item is fired
20190308 16:08:09<+wesdiscordbot> <Iris> And especially not in XP gain per attack
20190308 16:08:15<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> Right.
20190308 16:08:21<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> The unit's level isn't altered.
20190308 16:08:45<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> Which means, that menu item doesn't actually affect gameplay in any way. (unless Ravana's XP mod is on)
20190308 16:08:52<+wesdiscordbot> <Iris> Yes it does
20190308 16:09:18<+wesdiscordbot> <Iris> I just said that if you don't change the XP gain per attack/kill you're only making the game more difficult by making everyone require more XP to level up
20190308 16:09:51<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> But I increase unit.experience too
20190308 16:10:03<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> What does it matter if a unit is 40/100XP or 140/200XP?
20190308 16:10:25<+wesdiscordbot> <Iris> So are you saying everyone would start their life at 50 XP instead of 0?
20190308 16:11:06<+wesdiscordbot> <Pentarctagon> if the units are otherwise exactly the same, I'd say you wasted 100 xp
20190308 16:11:06<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> I'm saying that there's a menu item that gives 50XP to all units and at the same time increases their max_experience by 50XP otherwise
20190308 16:11:58<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> @Pentarctagon If you have a unit with 0/100XP and another unit with 0/200XP, you'd try to advance the former unit sooner, sure. But that's not the situation in questoin
20190308 16:12:32<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> @Irilicious What I'm getting at is that the menu item doesn't affect gameplay
20190308 16:12:37<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> Sorry, that was for @Iris
20190308 16:12:50<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> The unit needed 60XP to advance before the menu item was fired
20190308 16:12:58<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> It still needs 60XP to advance now that it has 140/200XP
20190308 16:13:17<+wesdiscordbot> <Iris> Yes
20190308 16:13:33<+wesdiscordbot> <Iris> Which means the menu item in question is a trap
20190308 16:13:58<+wesdiscordbot> <Iris> But only under the assumption that new recruits don't start at 0 XP
20190308 16:14:34<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> I don't understand what you mean about new recruits
20190308 16:14:47<+wesdiscordbot> <Iris> Units which are recruited using the Recruit menu
20190308 16:15:03<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> Yes, but why do you need to assume anything about them?
20190308 16:15:15<+wesdiscordbot> <Iris> Because they are just as part of the game as all other units
20190308 16:15:18<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> Either they start with 0/100XP, or they start with 50/150XP
20190308 16:15:38<+wesdiscordbot> <Iris> If we're talking tactics here you can't speak about a single unit in isolation
20190308 16:15:42<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> depending on whether the recruit event fires the "increase XP and max_XP" code
20190308 16:16:14<+wesdiscordbot> <Iris> (But currently I can't tell whether we're discussing UX, tactics, statistics, or human psychology)
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20190308 16:16:38< Ravana> that amla case is important, I did not consider that before
20190308 16:18:20< Ravana> xp mod uses current xp as reward, amla uses max xp as punishment
20190308 16:18:31<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> @Iris What I'm trying to get at is: if you take a particular gameplay snapshot, and increase both XP and max XP by the same amount, you won't have changed anything
20190308 16:18:59<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> regardless of how many units you make that change to. So long as you increase both statistics at once, nothing will have changed.
20190308 16:19:07<+wesdiscordbot> <Iris> Okay... I can see that because it's pretty obvious (a - a = 0)
20190308 16:19:36<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> Yeah.   If a unit had N/M XP and now it has (N+x)/(M+x) XP, everything is the same
20190308 16:19:52<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> So... what that means is that M-N is the important statistic about the unit
20190308 16:20:00<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> Hence, show that one in the UI.
20190308 16:20:52<+wesdiscordbot> <Iris> How is the player supposed to guess that's what's being displayed though?
20190308 16:21:13<+wesdiscordbot> <Iris> It could be the other way around or some other opaque number (I'll be back later)
20190308 16:21:19<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> tooltip? tutorial? An updated to the Gameplay section of the in-game help?
20190308 16:21:22<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> see you later
20190308 16:21:50<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> I meant, add some text to the tutorial.
20190308 16:21:58< Ravana> calculating the difference for player (if there is space) might be useful, but only when showing it in addition to current way
20190308 16:22:44<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> Ravana, I am convinced that showing the accumulated XP is useful, yes.
20190308 16:22:46<+wesdiscordbot> <Iris> People who are not new to the game probably won't replay the tutorial to find out
20190308 16:22:56<+wesdiscordbot> <Iris> People who are new don't always play the tutorial
20190308 16:23:08<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> so, tooltip?
20190308 16:23:20<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> "Experience to advance:: 43"
20190308 16:23:58<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> Ravana, maybe show both unit.experience and unit.max_experience - unit.experience without showing .max_experience ?
20190308 16:24:17< Ravana> but it is exactly max_experience that is important for amla
20190308 16:24:49<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> it's max_xp-xp that's important for that case, isn't it ?
20190308 16:25:25< Ravana> no, unit with 0/1 xp at max level is vastly stronger than unit with 9/10 xp
20190308 16:25:59<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> that's why it shows the unit level too. 😃
20190308 16:26:17< Ravana> both cases being max level
20190308 16:26:53<+wesdiscordbot> <Pentarctagon> maybe it could switch between how it's displayed by clicking on the XP number?
20190308 16:27:28<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> Ravana, I don't understand your example... why would 0/1XP be stronger than 9/10XP ?
20190308 16:27:53<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> You mean, because of the 20% XP penalty it'll have next ?
20190308 16:27:56< Ravana> because if you get 8 more xp, then first unit gets 8 advancements, second unit gets 1
20190308 16:28:18<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> ok, but how frequent is that?
20190308 16:28:23<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> can we just put the max xp in a tooltip ?
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20190308 16:28:38< Ravana> only happens in campaigns I guess
20190308 16:28:41< Ravana> when talking about tooltip, then all the 3 values should be visible
20190308 16:28:53< Ravana> I remember issues that after value of 1000, it was not visible normally anymore
20190308 16:28:53<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> sure.
20190308 16:29:05<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> truncated, probably
20190308 16:29:28<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/issues/3693
20190308 16:29:30< irker383> wesnoth/wesnoth:master DisherProject d52bac8112 Update 05_A_Subterranean_Struggle.cfg AppVeyor: All builds passed
20190308 16:30:20< Ravana> I agree with the switch on click btw
20190308 16:31:02<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> I'm not sure how to implement that
20190308 16:31:19<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> How to get a click event for a specific theme item ...
20190308 16:32:54< irker383> wesnoth/wesnoth:master nemaara 6dd39915a5 Update changelog with Quenoth descriptio AppVeyor: vs2015/Release Failed
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20190308 16:34:17<+wesdiscordbot> <Pentarctagon> it would have to know what element the mouse is currently over to be able to display tooltips, at least.
20190308 16:39:09<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> yeah, so it ought to be doable
20190308 16:39:28<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> It would be a kind of non obvious feature though
20190308 16:44:24< Ravana> I was recently told that even hovering on xp to see what advancement other people have planned was nonobvious
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20190308 16:45:05<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> Yeah, hovering on XP normally shows the possible advancements, and I recently made it show modification advancements too.
20190308 16:45:26<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> I wouldn't have expected a mod to be able to affect tooltips of core UI elements
20190308 16:45:39< Ravana> thats that purpose of wesnoth.theme_items?
20190308 16:45:59<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> I mean, as a player
20190308 16:46:21< Ravana> though in this case, just that tooltips show unit info, not unit type info, which I would expect
20190308 16:46:51<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> they show unit info in the sidebar, yes
20190308 16:47:13<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> they show unit type info in the recruit dialog though
20190308 16:48:01< Ravana> yes - that means if unit has advancements, no matter if they come from unit_type, modification, or modifying unit in WML, then hovering has them
20190308 16:48:13< Ravana> at recruit time, no unit exists yes, so makes sense
20190308 16:48:25<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> yeah, that's precisely why sidebar shows stats of the unit, not of its type.
20190308 16:51:22< Ravana> actually, what you mean by "modification advancement"?
20190308 16:53:45<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/999e42e524a5601d1e8de50e50a68f76dcc61e07
20190308 16:54:00<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> basically, AMLA-like advancements
20190308 16:54:08<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> as opposed to advancements to a different unit type
20190308 16:55:49<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> it's advances declared by an [advancement] tag, not by an advances_to key
20190308 16:56:02< Ravana> aah
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20190308 17:36:48<+wesdiscordbot> <Yumi> number of campaign issues is now below 20 :0
20190308 17:38:18<+wesdiscordbot> <Pentarctagon> nice
20190308 17:40:17<+wesdiscordbot> <Yumi> too bad there's only a couple left that I can actually fix
20190308 17:40:28<+wesdiscordbot> <Yumi> others are engine problems or material for major revisions
20190308 17:46:17<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> if they're engine problem please make sure they have the appropriate purple labels
20190308 17:46:31<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> in addition to the "Campaign" label
20190308 17:46:47<+wesdiscordbot> <Yumi> hmm
20190308 17:46:55<+wesdiscordbot> <Yumi> #1063 isn't clear what it's asking for so I can't label that
20190308 17:48:38<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> In the campaign selection screen I assume the campaign's name and backcover text would be in English if the campaign isn't translated
20190308 17:48:50<+wesdiscordbot> <Yumi> I actually don't know what most of these labels are strictly for 😂
20190308 17:49:13<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/labels
20190308 17:49:55<+wesdiscordbot> <Yumi> err like for example #1447
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20190308 17:50:19<+wesdiscordbot> <Yumi> is that an engine problem, or is it something else, or what?
20190308 17:50:25<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> about 1063 I think it's about the addon manager indeed because it says "unofficial" in the issue name
20190308 17:50:38<+wesdiscordbot> <Yumi> 🤷
20190308 17:50:52<+wesdiscordbot> <Yumi> I'll add the addons label back then
20190308 17:51:22<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> I think it's best to repurpose the Campaign label to be issues in campaigns, only
20190308 17:51:24<+wesdiscordbot> <Yumi> I imagine the person wanted to have a filter to be able to see campaigns for their native language or such
20190308 17:51:29<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> issues in data/campaigns/
20190308 17:51:40<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> issues in the campaign selection screen can go under the Engine label
20190308 17:51:45<+wesdiscordbot> <Yumi> so basically stuff that I can deal with
20190308 17:51:46<+wesdiscordbot> <Yumi> lol
20190308 17:51:53<+wesdiscordbot> <Yumi> 😂
20190308 17:51:54<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> actually, yeah, that's the idea
20190308 17:52:00<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> skillset required
20190308 17:52:02<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> etc
20190308 17:52:08<+wesdiscordbot> <Yumi> I'll do that
20190308 17:52:20<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> thanks, don't forget to adjust the label's description
20190308 17:53:10<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> by the way, I don't understand why 1447 should be postponed to 2.0
20190308 17:53:27<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> it's hardly a major change to catch an error and exit
20190308 17:54:04<+wesdiscordbot> <Yumi> vult was saying that he didn't think it was worth the effort for 1.14, but that we do whatever we like
20190308 17:54:08<+wesdiscordbot> <Yumi> so if someone wants to fix, by all means
20190308 17:54:19<+wesdiscordbot> <Yumi> also I think the campaigns label is currently fine as is, actually
20190308 17:54:27<+wesdiscordbot> <Yumi> it describes "issues with mainline campaigns"
20190308 17:54:47<+wesdiscordbot> <Yumi> maybe I just remove campaign support stuff, since you could consider much of the engine "campaign support"
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20190308 17:58:32<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> yeah
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20190308 18:05:35<+wesdiscordbot> <Yumi> what is depcheck?
20190308 18:10:47<+wesdiscordbot> <Pentarctagon> context?
20190308 18:15:58<+wesdiscordbot> <Pentarctagon> it sounds like it's short for dependency check, but I'm not sure how that would make sense regarding a campaign.
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20190308 18:17:07< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#21184 (master - cba53c5 : josteph): The build is still failing.
20190308 18:17:07< travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/503704074
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20190308 18:21:38<+wesdiscordbot> <Yumi> https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/issues/2561
20190308 18:23:28<+wesdiscordbot> <Yumi> so depcheck in this context
20190308 18:23:42<+wesdiscordbot> <Pentarctagon> ooh
20190308 18:26:07<+wesdiscordbot> <Pentarctagon> IIRC, since there's the ability to select modifications for campaigns, and mods have the ability to specify things that are compatible/incompatible with allow_modification etc, that bug means the check that there are no incompatibilities among the selected mods doesn't work(or maybe was never implemented)
20190308 18:26:34<+wesdiscordbot> <Pentarctagon> so definitely an engine issue
20190308 18:26:54<+wesdiscordbot> <Yumi> engine it is
20190308 18:27:05<+wesdiscordbot> <Yumi> so that leaves 11 open campaign issues
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20190308 22:44:40<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> I have wesnoth.theme_items.unit_xp piece of code that works in 1.14 but not in master, what might be the reason?
20190308 22:44:51<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> in master it just renders nothing
20190308 22:53:43<+wesdiscordbot> <josteph> code here https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/issues/3974#issuecomment-471104259 in the spoiler
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