--- Log opened Tue Apr 09 00:00:08 2019 20190409 00:17:32-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20190409 01:46:25-!- irker698 [~irker@wesnoth/umc-dev/bot/shikadibot] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190409 01:46:25< irker698> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:master e0756243ee6e / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/ (2 files in 2 dirs): UtBS S6a: update map and event coordinates https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/e0756243ee6e603ce7415aded2645f1d14577ebb 20190409 01:46:55< irker698> wesnoth: nemaara wesnoth:1.14 7910901235ce / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/ (2 files in 2 dirs): UtBS S6a: update map and event coordinates https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/7910901235ceb3978a713d6dfe99c852116a6f6c 20190409 02:30:03<+wesdiscordbot> I wonder if anyone will notice the spoopy thing in this map :thonk: 20190409 02:30:46-!- madmax28_ [~madmax28@xdsl-89-0-93-101.nc.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190409 02:31:27-!- madmax28 [~madmax28@2001-4dd4-fe5-0-ba27-ebff-febc-e0cb.ipv6dyn.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20190409 02:44:16-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Quit: And lo! The computer falls into a deep sleep, to awake again some other day!] 20190409 04:08:09<+wesdiscordbot> What does the error warning engine: User lbruiser has unknown game_id: 58616 mean? 20190409 04:47:32-!- irker698 [~irker@wesnoth/umc-dev/bot/shikadibot] has quit [Quit: transmission timeout] 20190409 04:56:41-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190409 05:43:45-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20190409 07:10:08<+wesdiscordbot> from server or client? 20190409 07:13:15-!- wedge010 [~Thunderbi@60.241.236.92] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190409 07:14:10-!- wedge009 [~Thunderbi@60-241-236-92.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20190409 07:14:10-!- wedge010 is now known as wedge009 20190409 07:15:04-!- Grickit [~derek@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 20190409 07:16:09-!- Gambit [~derek@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190409 07:16:42-!- Soliton [~Soliton@wesnoth/developer/soliton] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20190409 07:17:45-!- Soliton [~Soliton@wesnoth/developer/soliton] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190409 07:19:13<+wesdiscordbot> client 20190409 07:32:44<+wesdiscordbot> Client has to keep track of games, and there is a good chance it will encounter some games that were just created but this info wasn't propagated to client yet 20190409 07:33:11<+wesdiscordbot> or it got lingering reference to a game that already got destroyed from its point of view 20190409 07:53:00-!- irker055 [~irker@wesnoth/umc-dev/bot/shikadibot] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190409 07:53:00< irker055> wesnoth/wesnoth:1.14 nemaara 7910901235 UtBS S6a: update map and event coordinat AppVeyor: All builds passed 20190409 07:58:23-!- APic [apic@apic.name] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20190409 07:58:54-!- APic [apic@apic.name] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190409 10:10:02-!- boucman_work [~boucman@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190409 10:28:25-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190409 10:38:59< irker055> wesnoth: Nils Kneuper wesnoth:1.14 3cba3584cb93 / po/wesnoth/es.po: updated Spanish translation https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/3cba3584cb93ff987f4fe6d1fe32a6b602f5f6e2 20190409 10:39:01< irker055> wesnoth: Nils Kneuper wesnoth:1.14 95d74f46fd95 / / (19 files in 19 dirs): updated Lithuanian translation https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/95d74f46fd951cbf6f2b78467d8328d221cca6a1 20190409 10:39:03< irker055> wesnoth: Nils Kneuper wesnoth:master 4ee23d603877 / po/wesnoth/es.po: updated Spanish translation https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/4ee23d603877b98dfee05c127a01b2245558df55 20190409 10:39:05< irker055> wesnoth: Nils Kneuper wesnoth:master 08ada02e7113 / po/ (18 files in 18 dirs): updated Lithuanian translation https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/08ada02e7113d570a9d12458ea6614bb9e32698b 20190409 11:00:36-!- boucman_work [~boucman@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20190409 11:07:24-!- valdar [~atarocch@93.56.172.28] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20190409 11:11:07-!- boucman_work [~boucman@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190409 11:36:53-!- valdar [~atarocch@93.56.172.28] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190409 11:43:10-!- valdar [~atarocch@93.56.172.28] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20190409 11:44:18-!- valdar [~atarocch@93.56.172.28] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190409 12:16:12-!- boucman_work [~boucman@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20190409 13:39:27-!- irker055 [~irker@wesnoth/umc-dev/bot/shikadibot] has quit [Quit: transmission timeout] 20190409 14:04:55-!- boucman_work [~boucman@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190409 15:23:52-!- TC01_ is now known as TC01 20190409 15:50:28-!- boucman_work [~boucman@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20190409 15:51:29-!- boucman_work [~boucman@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190409 16:09:08-!- madmax28_ is now known as madmax28 20190409 16:48:16<+wesdiscordbot> celticminstrel: I just read one of your comments about the WoV pull request: 'I would be inclined to say that any lineal relationship between dragons and drakes is no more than myth. The two species are actually very different, so it doesn't make sense to me for one to evolve from the other.' Then what do we do about this one? https://wiki.wesnoth.org/SecretLore#Secrets_of_the_Drakes 20190409 16:53:37<+wesdiscordbot> we ignore it because it's not written into the lore 20190409 16:53:46<+wesdiscordbot> look who the source is 20190409 16:54:00<+wesdiscordbot> it's a person, not a campaign nor unit description 20190409 17:32:03-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190409 17:44:54-!- irker759 [~irker@wesnoth/umc-dev/bot/shikadibot] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190409 17:44:54< irker759> wesnoth/wesnoth:1.14 Nils Kneuper 95d74f46fd updated Lithuanian translation AppVeyor: All builds passed 20190409 17:46:42-!- boucman_work [~boucman@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20190409 19:25:18-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20190409 19:29:47-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190409 19:33:26-!- boucman [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190409 19:41:18-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20190409 19:42:31< irker759> wesnoth: Nils Kneuper wesnoth:master d447a3fe4f97 / po/ (wesnoth-did/zh_TW.po wesnoth-trow/zh_TW.po wesnoth-tsg/zh_TW.po): updated Chinese (Traditional) translation https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/d447a3fe4f9795a48996176dfce07e026d625f03 20190409 19:42:38< irker759> wesnoth: Nils Kneuper wesnoth:1.14 77f129952195 / po/ (wesnoth-did/zh_TW.po wesnoth-trow/zh_TW.po wesnoth-tsg/zh_TW.po): updated Chinese (Traditional) translation https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/77f129952195065bf55464768eae3a4e19ee5447 20190409 19:46:18< irker759> wesnoth/wesnoth:master Nils Kneuper 08ada02e71 updated Lithuanian translation AppVeyor: All builds passed 20190409 19:55:01-!- stikonas_ [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190409 19:55:03< vn971> I wonder, will Haldric have a rating system? 20190409 19:55:30<+wesdiscordbot> Who knows ¯_(ツ)_/¯ 20190409 19:55:52<+wesdiscordbot> Even Wesnoth could have a rating system if somebody did it properly 20190409 19:58:48-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20190409 20:03:14-!- stikonas_ [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20190409 20:03:43-!- stikonas_ [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190409 20:04:05-!- stikonas_ [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Client Quit] 20190409 20:04:33-!- stikonas_ [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190409 20:04:54-!- stikonas_ [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Client Quit] 20190409 20:05:23-!- stikonas_ [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190409 20:06:33-!- stikonas_ [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20190409 20:07:06-!- stikonas_ [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190409 20:13:23-!- stikonas_ [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20190409 20:21:13< vn971> Iris: I think I discussed it some time ago and there were people saying they won't allow it into official server. 20190409 20:21:28< vn971> Could be Vultraz, not sure though. 20190409 20:23:40< vn971> Maybe I'm seriously confusing something because I find no such thing in my logs. 20190409 20:23:53< vn971> by the words I grep-ped with, anyway. 20190409 20:24:01<+wesdiscordbot> I'd look on the forums 20190409 20:24:06<+wesdiscordbot> for such conversations 20190409 20:24:25< vn971> I could be confusing with hedgewars -- another free game, and they don't have ratings so far as well. 20190409 20:26:32-!- stikonas_ [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190409 20:31:08<+wesdiscordbot> it has indeed been the long-taken position by the team that we wouldn't implement player ratings officially 20190409 20:31:53<+wesdiscordbot> I can understand it 20190409 20:32:04<+wesdiscordbot> such things can easily become source of dramas 20190409 20:32:35<+wesdiscordbot> but we are hoping (emphasis) to implement actual player accounts for v2.0, so... we'll see. might add that, might not if it's too difficult or deemed still too much a source of drama 20190409 20:33:10<+wesdiscordbot> how? 20190409 20:33:15<+wesdiscordbot> how what? 20190409 20:33:21<+wesdiscordbot> player accounts 20190409 20:33:34<+wesdiscordbot> how you think to implement them? 20190409 20:35:09<+wesdiscordbot> I think keeping them tied to forums is a sound path 20190409 20:35:27<+wesdiscordbot> since we can add any extra data to them 20190409 20:36:26<+wesdiscordbot> That’s one one to go about it. But we also want steam login. Either way I’m hoping to at least provide MP match history and to tie addons to your account. 20190409 20:36:29<+wesdiscordbot> I've always said that for ratings to be properly implemented, some form of persistent authentication is needed 20190409 20:36:53<+wesdiscordbot> People like to twist my words though 20190409 20:38:14<+wesdiscordbot> I think there are extensions to integrate phpbb and steam 20190409 20:38:37<+wesdiscordbot> I am aware 20190409 20:39:01<+wesdiscordbot> Please don't assume I somehow haven't llooked into it after all this time 20190409 20:39:22<+wesdiscordbot> I do not. I remember you mentioned something about them 20190409 20:39:26<+wesdiscordbot> but I forgot the details 20190409 20:40:12<+wesdiscordbot> Dave tossed around a mention to Firebase the other day for some reason...need to ask him what exactly he meant to suggest er do with it. 20190409 20:40:22<+wesdiscordbot> I saw that 20190409 20:40:36<+wesdiscordbot> I'd like to know as well because I don't want two different database systems running on baldras 20190409 20:40:46<+wesdiscordbot> We're not made of CPU time 20190409 20:41:20<+wesdiscordbot> We already struggle quite a bit serving everything from the same host, especially during backup tasks 20190409 20:56:52<+wesdiscordbot> firebase? isn't that some properiatry google stuff? 20190409 21:07:35<+wesdiscordbot> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firebase#Firebase_Auth 20190409 21:08:11<+wesdiscordbot> Maybe he was referring to auth part 20190409 21:11:00<+wesdiscordbot> He wasn't 20190409 21:11:16<+wesdiscordbot> It was brought up in a conversation that wasn't about authentication 20190409 21:11:47<+wesdiscordbot> (I'm not gonna be more specific than that because otherwise people are going to be like "waaaaaahhh you're suggesting changing X that's such a terrible idea waaaaah") 20190409 21:36:00-!- stikonas_ [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20190409 21:39:04-!- stikonas_ [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190409 21:45:34-!- stikonas_ [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20190409 21:46:34-!- stikonas_ [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190409 21:52:52< vn971> > player accounts for v2.0, so... we'll see. might add that, might not -- I see, thanks. 20190409 21:55:10< vn971> I guess the biggest bummer for current wesnoth for me is slowness anyway, not lack of ratings. Playing against a newbie is sometimes sad, having to play it painfully long or being impolite is even worse. 20190409 22:08:13-!- boucman [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20190409 22:20:03-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190409 22:23:15-!- stikonas_ [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20190409 22:37:39-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20190409 22:40:20-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190409 22:47:01-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20190409 22:47:12-!- irker759 [~irker@wesnoth/umc-dev/bot/shikadibot] has quit [Quit: transmission timeout] 20190409 22:47:53-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190409 22:53:27-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20190409 22:53:45-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190409 22:59:21-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20190409 22:59:24-!- stikonas_ [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190409 23:04:12-!- stikonas_ [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20190409 23:14:31-!- stikonas_ [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190409 23:25:46-!- stikonas_ [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20190409 23:34:42-!- stikonas_ [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190409 23:39:18-!- stikonas_ [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20190409 23:47:46-!- stikonas_ [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20190409 23:54:36-!- stikonas_ [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] --- Log closed Wed Apr 10 00:00:10 2019