--- Log opened Wed Apr 17 00:00:14 2019 20190417 04:37:21-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Quit: And lo! The computer falls into a deep sleep, to awake again some other day!] 20190417 04:53:13<+wesdiscordbot> Steampeng (hope I'm naming the right user for this), the UotT idea seems like a good one, however, I'd suggest possibly with an evil Konrad, adding new characters which better fir the plot and the such, rather than a direct evil inverse if HttT. Apologies for the like...several-days-later-response, been busy with things and also been forgetting to check some servers. (I'm in ~40, I'm bound to not be as active in some) 20190417 04:56:55<+wesdiscordbot> What I'd suggest is sort of replacing x charactrrs with y. Like, maybe make Relgorn and Geldar replaced by some sort of Trollic (Trolvic? Trollin???) leaders, maybe make Kalenz a dark sorcerer or orcish ruler, and maybe make Sir Kaylan replaced by a direwolf rjder or drake or something. (Apologies for typos, it's late and I'm using mobile discord, and am not used tl the tiny, quarter inch on screen keys of this tablet) 20190417 08:29:26< Soliton> @UnwiseOwl i suppose you mean start_year. you can write a custom epoch but obviously wesnoth will not know what that means in terms of date order, it will assume YW. 20190417 08:30:54<+wesdiscordbot> Cheers. 20190417 10:37:05<+wesdiscordbot> SX RPG ADDON uploded to 1.14 not work. 20190417 11:02:37< vn971> Reisenfag: you should report it to the author of the add-on. Do you know how to do that? 20190417 11:15:03<+wesdiscordbot> Author is not active. And people who helped with this add-on do not have time to fix it. 20190417 11:26:58< vn971> The add-on doesn't seem to have an associated forum page. Is it at least hosted on gitlab / github ? 20190417 11:28:56<+wesdiscordbot> I don't think so. I uploaded it because I was asked to do so but I don't have time and skill to fix it properly. 20190417 11:30:49< vn971> hmm, at least it was popular on 1.12, as I now see. Are there many bugs? I asked for forum/gitlab to check issues, estimate how hard it might be and if I'd be willing to try. 20190417 11:31:30< vn971> I tried one old add-on once, but it felt hopeless because of rather big change by wesnoth 1.12->1.14 20190417 11:31:44< vn971> or no, big change by wesnoth 1.10->1.12 20190417 11:33:26<+wesdiscordbot> In short almost nothing is working. Even UI is not working as it should but fix of UI shouldn't be the hardest thing to do. 20190417 11:33:58< vn971> Hejnewar: if you want, you can at least create forums page or whatever. With proper written down issues there's at least hope for change. Without it, not sure. 20190417 11:34:22< vn971> hmmm... I see.( 20190417 11:37:38<+wesdiscordbot> I actually think that it might be easier to rebuild it in some parts instead of trying to fix what is broken. But it's just my opinion. Currently even work on DF rework has stopped because everyone is simply too bussy. Fortunately not much is left to do. 20190417 12:37:02-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20190417 13:29:56-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20190417 14:22:50<+wesdiscordbot> Upgrading your Spotify Free accounts for Premium account (Prices starting at 0,25€): https://www.nulled.to/topic/617047-spotify-upgrade-your-own-account-for-just-1/ https://discord.gg/2wCeReM 20190417 14:45:58< vn971> Hejnewar: I did that with CreepWars. Porting from WML to Lua-first along the way, and learning wesnoth API. 20190417 14:46:13< vn971> It was fun, but it took a shitton of time.) 20190417 14:47:10< vn971> Hacker.Shadow: is this spam or what? Doesn't seem to be wesnoth related. Also, GTFO to services that encourage and lobby DRM enforcement on users. 20190417 14:51:16<+wesdiscordbot> Time that I simply don't have. + It's actually funny. I never played SXC myself. 20190417 14:58:13<+wesdiscordbot> vn971 It has already been deleted on discord. 20190417 15:02:06< vn971> Hejnewar: yes exactly. It took quite a time, so I wrote my message to warn people of this potential situation. 20190417 15:02:20< vn971> it's fun, but complete re-writes take qui-i-ite a time. 20190417 15:05:40<+wesdiscordbot> As re-works and re-desings do. 20190417 16:11:10<+wesdiscordbot> https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=36165 old theme. its abandoned in 1.10 20190417 16:11:40<+wesdiscordbot> Addon really cool. 20190417 16:15:58< vn971> Reisenfag: if the add-on is abandoned on 1.10, then there's no chance to resurrect it now except to rewrite I think. You cannot even compile a 1.10 version to look into anymore. I'd accept it as gone forever or make a new rewrite with some of your own new ideas. (I'm not willing to do it, but some might.) 20190417 16:17:48< Ravana> from what I have experienced, 1.8 to 1.10 was larger change than 1.10 to 1.12 to 1.14 20190417 16:25:33< Soliton> why would you not be able to compile 1.10 anymore? 20190417 16:26:02< vn971> Soliton: even 1.12 wasn't possible just a few months back, and maybe is impossible still. 20190417 16:26:10< vn971> Soliton: something about changes in SCons I think 20190417 16:26:58< Soliton> even if that is the case you can simply use older tools. 20190417 16:27:07< vn971> I remember someone saying that a patch should be fairly simple, but it still wasn't there at the time of the discussion. 20190417 16:27:23< Soliton> scons is not the only way to build wesnoth anyway. 20190417 16:27:36< vn971> Soliton: I'm on ArchLinux. Installing older tools is practically impossible. 20190417 16:28:29< Soliton> sure but that is obviously not a general statement. 20190417 16:29:26< vn971> Soliton: also I guess I could use Windows with its statically linked libraries. 20190417 16:29:47< vn971> * I mean use wine and .exe files 20190417 16:31:03< vn971> hmm.. Or flatpak archives for that matter? Or did wesnoth start shipping them starting after 1.14? 20190417 16:31:29< Soliton> i think we only started with flatpak with 1.14. 20190417 16:35:34< vn971> ok. Also, if I read the wiki correctly, we point to flatpak.org. If we are indeed not hosting the archives ourselves, it might be impossible to retrieve old versions. 20190417 16:58:09<+wesdiscordbot> Does end_text: in the campaign tag actually do anything for anyone else, and if so what's the correct syntax? Got a couple of old campaigns over here that have just reverted to saying 'The End' 20190417 16:59:38<+wesdiscordbot> (just in the sense of 'only' rather than 'recently', I have no idea when) 20190417 19:00:20-!- Ravana [~Ravana@wesnoth/mp-mod/ravana] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20190417 21:03:20< vn971> UnwiseOwl: I didn't really program before 1.12, IDK. But you can always just use the wiki? 20190417 21:03:22< vn971> https://wiki.wesnoth.org/CampaignWML 20190417 21:03:45< vn971> > (translatable) Text that is shown centered in a black screen at the end of a campaign. Defaults to "The End". 20190417 21:08:33-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20190417 23:06:30<+wesdiscordbot> Yes, using the wiki but not getting the expected outcome: wondering if anyone else has noticed that feature being bugged, or if I've goofed somehow. --- Log closed Thu Apr 18 00:00:35 2019