--- Log opened Sun Apr 21 00:00:39 2019 20190421 00:38:40-!- Haudegen [~quassel@cm56-229-75.liwest.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20190421 02:41:24<+wesdiscordbot> I think Decent into Darkness is the best written, most compelling campaign. Nothing really feels forced and, while you clearly aren't a good guy, you can always see why Malin is taking the actions he is. 20190421 02:41:51<+wesdiscordbot> An average guy in a bad situation making bad, but understandable, decisions. 20190421 02:43:21<+wesdiscordbot> There is something to be said for grand sweeping campaigns seeing you repel whole armies or save the world, but I also love the story of one guy down on his luck. 20190421 03:38:53-!- aeth_ [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has joined #wesnoth 20190421 03:40:57-!- aeth [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20190421 03:41:38-!- aeth [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has joined #wesnoth 20190421 03:44:13<+wesdiscordbot> or you can just start as some chick with pet bats and later repel whole armies 20190421 03:45:04-!- aeth_ [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20190421 03:50:00-!- aeth [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20190421 03:52:10-!- aeth [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has joined #wesnoth 20190421 04:27:07-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Quit: And lo! The computer falls into a deep sleep, to awake again some other day!] 20190421 04:30:27-!- APic [apic@apic.name] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20190421 04:40:17-!- APic [apic@apic.name] has joined #wesnoth 20190421 04:48:17<+wesdiscordbot> guess I'm happy to hear my rewrite turned out decent 20190421 06:53:47<+wesdiscordbot> would be nice if there were some kind of easter egg or something for holding the orcs off without necromancy in the first scenario, not just ||good job but orcs killed your sister anyway lol|| 20190421 06:54:42<+wesdiscordbot> it is definitely doable with some semblance of reliability, I had -4/+5 rng stats just now 20190421 06:54:48<+wesdiscordbot> on Summoner 20190421 07:21:49-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20190421 07:40:31<+wesdiscordbot> @Hardwood Your spoiler never happened anyway. 20190421 07:43:58<+wesdiscordbot> right, my bad, she was wounded instead 20190421 07:46:17<+wesdiscordbot> It seems strange that such a thing could have happened in a world where Malin stopped the orcs from crossing the river in the first place 20190421 08:28:21<+wesdiscordbot> Even though she is part of the forces that defend the river? 20190421 08:32:46<+wesdiscordbot> she wasn't, I think? I don't remember seeing any female units 20190421 08:33:06<+wesdiscordbot> You just get the two loyal spearmen and loyal bowman 20190421 08:33:52<+wesdiscordbot> and, sure, I can see that it would be implied that the orcs did damage to the village elsewhere not on the map or injured civilians somehow (maybe off the map) 20190421 08:33:59<+wesdiscordbot> I mean, you can easily claim that she was one of the units that Drogan send to your help, you just didn't recognize her in the heat of the battle. 20190421 08:33:59<+wesdiscordbot> but it seems strange still 20190421 08:34:12<+wesdiscordbot> I didn't even know he had a sister until she was mentioned lol 20190421 08:34:47<+wesdiscordbot> Sure, I'm not saying it was impossible. But isn't that a bit of a stretch? 20190421 08:35:14<+wesdiscordbot> I just find it difficult to believe, and I don't think it'd be good to defend something like that tbh 20190421 08:35:31<+wesdiscordbot> It's not like I'm saying Yumi did a bad job or the campaign is bad 20190421 08:35:46<+wesdiscordbot> haven't even played the whole thing 20190421 08:36:48<+wesdiscordbot> as a player I felt a little bit snubbed ngl 20190421 08:37:04<+wesdiscordbot> To be fair, this doesn't apply to the new DiD anyway. 20190421 08:37:09<+wesdiscordbot> new DiD? 20190421 08:37:11<+wesdiscordbot> So you can't pin that on Yumi. 😄 20190421 08:37:12<+wesdiscordbot> is there a new one 20190421 08:37:18<+wesdiscordbot> Since 1.14.7, yes. 20190421 08:37:38<+wesdiscordbot> oh, I see 20190421 08:38:10<+wesdiscordbot> No, I'm not trying to. I just took it for granted that the current version was done by her because of the earlier conversation about it 20190421 08:38:29<+wesdiscordbot> replace "Yumi" with "campaign dev of DiD whose name I don't know" 20190421 08:38:38<+wesdiscordbot> same idea really 20190421 08:40:05<+wesdiscordbot> It does feel forced 20190421 08:40:30<+wesdiscordbot> the rest of the campaign could be amazing for all I know 20190421 09:24:53-!- Haudegen [~quassel@cm56-229-75.liwest.at] has joined #wesnoth 20190421 09:27:54<+wesdiscordbot> I downloaded 1.14.7 and played through the same scenario 20190421 09:28:41<+wesdiscordbot> I guess the writing works now, though I was still able to defend without resorting to necromancy 20190421 09:29:18<+wesdiscordbot> At least Dela doesn't hate you if you complete the scenario in this way 20190421 09:29:26<+wesdiscordbot> that's nice I guess. 20190421 09:31:22<+wesdiscordbot> Loyal soldiers, hardworking peasants and woodmen gave their lives so my older sister would not hate me 20190421 09:31:26<+wesdiscordbot> still worth it 20190421 09:33:33-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20190421 09:49:40<+wesdiscordbot> "still worth it" @Hardwood xD 20190421 09:49:42<+wesdiscordbot> I did the same 20190421 09:49:48<+wesdiscordbot> Just because I could 20190421 09:50:21<+wesdiscordbot> she'll probably end up hating Malin later 20190421 09:50:23<+wesdiscordbot> but, still worth it 20190421 09:50:26<+wesdiscordbot> Haha yeah 20190421 09:50:30<+wesdiscordbot> lol 20190421 09:50:30<+wesdiscordbot> I feel like despite the point of DiD which is necromancy I prefer to hold on to the good for as long as possible for some reason or other xD 20190421 09:50:46<+wesdiscordbot> Well, it's not as interesting if he doesn't try to hold on 20190421 09:50:50<+wesdiscordbot> imo 20190421 09:51:02<+wesdiscordbot> Yes true, I like the theme of DiD though which is the no-win situation that Malin puts himself in 20190421 09:51:07<+wesdiscordbot> It also makes for a fun experience 20190421 09:51:13<+wesdiscordbot> figuring out how to sacrifice the units 20190421 09:51:15<+wesdiscordbot> Yeah exactly xD 20190421 09:51:15<+wesdiscordbot> to make the most of them 20190421 09:51:24-!- Haudegen [~quassel@cm56-229-75.liwest.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20190421 09:51:33<+wesdiscordbot> Have you played SotA? 20190421 09:51:42<+wesdiscordbot> does that stand for secrets of the ancients 20190421 09:51:44<+wesdiscordbot> also, no 20190421 09:51:50<+wesdiscordbot> Yes it does 20190421 09:51:54<+wesdiscordbot> i don't play many campaigns actually 20190421 09:51:57<+wesdiscordbot> That is another UD campaign 20190421 09:52:05<+wesdiscordbot> "i don't play many campaigns actually" - Mainly MP? 20190421 09:52:14<+wesdiscordbot> I feel like it's difficult to make singleplayer interesting with a weak AI 20190421 09:52:21<+wesdiscordbot> t b h 20190421 09:52:41<+wesdiscordbot> Idk I personally find the stories interesting, and the characters 20190421 09:52:45<+wesdiscordbot> Yes 20190421 09:52:47<+wesdiscordbot> I like developing my army also 20190421 09:52:52<+wesdiscordbot> Hence my add-on ROTL 20190421 09:52:57<+wesdiscordbot> But the gameplay i.e. the combat is an integral part of the story as well 20190421 09:53:04<+wesdiscordbot> Yes I agree 20190421 09:53:11<+wesdiscordbot> That is the main point of wesnoth xD 20190421 09:53:29<+wesdiscordbot> Having one be well done while the other struggles is just 20190421 09:53:32<+wesdiscordbot> lol 20190421 09:53:40<+wesdiscordbot> Yes that is true 20190421 09:53:48<+wesdiscordbot> I do think it would be possible 20190421 09:53:57<+wesdiscordbot> Though not without a lot of work on the ai 20190421 09:54:02<+wesdiscordbot> and I did play through at least one or two campaigns that made interesting scenarios 20190421 09:54:09<+wesdiscordbot> Velensk's War of the Dragon comes to mind 20190421 09:54:17<+wesdiscordbot> I haven't played that one, 20190421 09:54:23<+wesdiscordbot> it's incomplete anyway 20190421 09:54:35<+wesdiscordbot> and the EoM is undergoing metamorphosis right now as well 20190421 09:54:45<+wesdiscordbot> Yeah 20190421 09:54:46<+wesdiscordbot> I'm helping @sevu to make that happen 20190421 09:54:56<+wesdiscordbot> Thats great! 20190421 09:54:56<+wesdiscordbot> it's not an easy job 20190421 09:55:02<+wesdiscordbot> I believe that 20190421 09:55:09<+wesdiscordbot> I was recently working on the DF revision 20190421 09:55:14<+wesdiscordbot> Idk if you have seen that? 20190421 09:55:15<+wesdiscordbot> sorry what does that stand for 20190421 09:55:17<+wesdiscordbot> lol 20190421 09:55:25<+wesdiscordbot> the Dunefolk (new khalifate) 20190421 09:55:28<+wesdiscordbot> oh 20190421 09:55:42<+wesdiscordbot> no, I actually personally am not a huge fan of Dunefolk 20190421 09:55:48<+wesdiscordbot> sorry 20190421 09:55:57<+wesdiscordbot> Yes that is the response of most people xD no offence taken 20190421 09:56:06<+wesdiscordbot> That is why we were reworking it 20190421 09:56:12<+wesdiscordbot> I can see that it might be a hard job though 20190421 09:56:16<+wesdiscordbot> xD 20190421 09:56:17<+wesdiscordbot> It was 20190421 09:56:18<+wesdiscordbot> best of luck with it 20190421 09:56:24<+wesdiscordbot> We have nearly finished now 20190421 09:56:29<+wesdiscordbot> nice 20190421 09:56:55<+wesdiscordbot> With the changes it is much better balanced now 20190421 09:56:57<+wesdiscordbot> do you have people for portraits and sprites as well 20190421 09:57:08<+wesdiscordbot> Not yet, though hopefully 20190421 09:57:12<+wesdiscordbot> ah 20190421 09:57:33<+wesdiscordbot> It is hard to convince people to draw for incomplete units haha 20190421 09:58:15<+wesdiscordbot> are you trying to develop dunefolk to be in line with the default era btw 20190421 09:58:18<+wesdiscordbot> or just like a separate faction? 20190421 09:58:33<+wesdiscordbot> No we are proposing it to replace the current DF in mainline 20190421 09:58:54<+wesdiscordbot> We have talked with the dev's and hopefully that will happen soon 20190421 09:59:15<+wesdiscordbot> So yes, in line with the other factions 20190421 09:59:23<+wesdiscordbot> oh, I see 20190421 09:59:32<+wesdiscordbot> Do you usually play the default era of UMC when you play MP 20190421 09:59:32<+wesdiscordbot> well, when it's done I'll check it out 20190421 09:59:40<+wesdiscordbot> I usually just play default era 20190421 09:59:42<+wesdiscordbot> Same 20190421 09:59:43<+wesdiscordbot> without UMC 20190421 09:59:49<+wesdiscordbot> Yes I do as well 20190421 09:59:56<+wesdiscordbot> It is the most strategic that way 20190421 09:59:59<+wesdiscordbot> IMO default struggles a little bit with balance already 20190421 10:00:04<+wesdiscordbot> that it just seems extra hard 20190421 10:00:09<+wesdiscordbot> to make another faction on top of it 20190421 10:00:14<+wesdiscordbot> True 20190421 10:00:14<+wesdiscordbot> but when it's done I will still check it out 20190421 10:00:41<+wesdiscordbot> Also I feel like the theme of DF is quite unique in the wesnoth lore 20190421 10:00:54<+wesdiscordbot> by the way, what is the current list of maps considered best-balanced for 1v1 20190421 10:01:02<+wesdiscordbot> i wasn't able to find anything like a ladder map set 20190421 10:01:07<+wesdiscordbot> That is a good question 20190421 10:01:08<+wesdiscordbot> and ladder is also dead now 20190421 10:01:17<+wesdiscordbot> "and ladder is also dead now" - Yeah unfortunate 20190421 10:01:20<+wesdiscordbot> gg 20190421 11:39:21-!- Haudegen [~quassel@cm56-229-75.liwest.at] has joined #wesnoth 20190421 14:08:31<+wesdiscordbot> Hey guys I asked this question on the steam community, but my descent into darkness campaign ended at scenario 5 rather then scenario 12 20190421 14:08:47<+wesdiscordbot> is this because I played on the easiest difficulty? 20190421 14:09:34<+wesdiscordbot> no it's a bug 20190421 14:09:46<+wesdiscordbot> Whaaaaat 20190421 14:10:32<+wesdiscordbot> but you need to provide a save or the log file for me to fix it 20190421 14:10:43<+wesdiscordbot> I probably already know why tbh 20190421 14:10:51<+wesdiscordbot> I just needed to confirm of it was ab ug 20190421 14:11:15<+wesdiscordbot> I modified the turn count just to give me some breathing room and to learn the story (since I'm considerably new) 20190421 14:11:20<+wesdiscordbot> so thats probably what broke it 20190421 14:11:29<+wesdiscordbot> okay yeah 20190421 14:11:41<+wesdiscordbot> if you use debug then no guarantees the campaigns will work as intended 20190421 14:11:54<+wesdiscordbot> I did it in the scenario files 20190421 14:12:05<+wesdiscordbot> 😬 20190421 14:12:09<+wesdiscordbot> it worked fine, but its just like when the scenario end it literally pops up with the "THE END" screen 20190421 14:12:12<+wesdiscordbot> and I was like "oh" lmoa 20190421 14:12:25<+wesdiscordbot> wellllll 20190421 14:12:34<+wesdiscordbot> you should probably revert it back 20190421 14:12:37<+wesdiscordbot> I did 20190421 14:12:49<+wesdiscordbot> you can use debug mode to give yourself gold if you really need it 20190421 14:12:51<+wesdiscordbot> I'd have to redo the mission again to see if it works though x.x 20190421 14:12:53<+wesdiscordbot> that probably won't break anything 20190421 14:13:03<+wesdiscordbot> you can also use debug to advance to the next level 20190421 14:13:09<+wesdiscordbot> oh? how do I do that 20190421 14:13:15<+wesdiscordbot> type : 20190421 14:13:18<+wesdiscordbot> when you're in the scenario 20190421 14:13:21<+wesdiscordbot> it brings up the command line 20190421 14:13:25<+wesdiscordbot> then just type debug into it 20190421 14:13:34<+wesdiscordbot> and you can type help for a list of commands after you do that 20190421 14:14:01<+wesdiscordbot> welllll this campaign is dooooomed lmao 20190421 14:14:48<+wesdiscordbot> @Vultraz Could I have access to the Project Haldric channel please 20190421 14:16:09<+wesdiscordbot> @Yumi right so how do I use this, none of the commands are doing anything 20190421 14:16:42<+wesdiscordbot> Any @Chance you removed the line below turns as well? That would explain everything https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/blob/1.14/data/campaigns/Descent_Into_Darkness/scenarios/05_Orc_War.cfg#L9 20190421 14:17:01<+wesdiscordbot> huh. 20190421 14:17:03<+wesdiscordbot> I don't believe so 20190421 14:17:18<+wesdiscordbot> so the command line does pop up 20190421 14:17:19<+wesdiscordbot> right? 20190421 14:17:26<+wesdiscordbot> I thought that also would have been the issue but I double checked and next_scenario will still there 20190421 14:17:29<+wesdiscordbot> and yeah it does 20190421 14:17:39<+wesdiscordbot> so does gold give you gold 20190421 14:17:49<+wesdiscordbot> no 20190421 14:17:52<+wesdiscordbot> you can type a value after it 20190421 14:18:00<+wesdiscordbot> nope lol 20190421 14:18:03<+wesdiscordbot> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm :thonk: 20190421 14:18:11<+wesdiscordbot> maybe its the save 20190421 14:18:15<+wesdiscordbot> lemme try starting a new campaign 20190421 14:18:18<+wesdiscordbot> don't think so 20190421 14:18:27<+wesdiscordbot> you can give me your save 20190421 14:18:30<+wesdiscordbot> I can fix it 20190421 14:18:37<+wesdiscordbot> I think 20190421 14:18:54<+wesdiscordbot> its the save 20190421 14:18:55<+wesdiscordbot> lmao 20190421 14:18:59<+wesdiscordbot> that entire campaign is doomed 20190421 14:19:08<+wesdiscordbot> that's fine, I can recreate your save 20190421 14:19:14<+wesdiscordbot> I mean if you want 20190421 14:19:22<+wesdiscordbot> lemme go find ittttt 20190421 14:19:33<+wesdiscordbot> where are the saved located? xD 20190421 14:19:40<+wesdiscordbot> windows? 20190421 14:19:49<+wesdiscordbot> or mac 20190421 14:19:49<+wesdiscordbot> Mhm 20190421 14:19:51<+wesdiscordbot> windows 20190421 14:20:02<+wesdiscordbot> Documents/My Games/Wesnoth1.14/saves/ 20190421 14:20:31<+wesdiscordbot> since you already beat S5, I might as well give you a working save for S6 I think 20190421 14:20:44<+wesdiscordbot> funny enough I managed to beat it in 35 turns 20190421 14:20:47<+wesdiscordbot> when the original limit was 37 20190421 14:20:55<+wesdiscordbot> before I modified it loool 20190421 14:20:58<+wesdiscordbot> easy mode? 20190421 14:21:04<+wesdiscordbot> Mhm, still fresh from the grind 20190421 14:21:11<+wesdiscordbot> really addicted though 20190421 14:21:15<+wesdiscordbot> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/569528076069896212/DiD-Orc_War-Auto-Save35.gz 20190421 14:22:46<+wesdiscordbot> I think it should be the only 'grindy' scenario in the campaign 20190421 14:22:51<+wesdiscordbot> 🤔 20190421 14:23:06<+wesdiscordbot> I just mean fresh from the grind as in I'm like brand new 20190421 14:23:11<+wesdiscordbot> so I struggle with alot of things lmao 20190421 14:23:30<+wesdiscordbot> yah it's a bit surprising you went directly to DiD, it's not a novice campaign 20190421 14:23:35<+wesdiscordbot> but I played with my friend and she taught me a fair bit 20190421 14:23:58<+wesdiscordbot> I started with the first campaign, then online with my friend & got my butt kicked 20190421 14:24:04<+wesdiscordbot> then was like "I wanna play a race I enjoy" 20190421 14:24:10<+wesdiscordbot> so I jumped into the first undead campaign lol 20190421 14:24:18<+wesdiscordbot> and surprised I made it as far as I did tbh 20190421 14:24:43<+wesdiscordbot> that was the only level I modified the turn limit for too cause thats when everything started breaking 20190421 14:24:56<+wesdiscordbot> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/569529005854949387/DiD-Return_to_Parthyn.gz 20190421 14:25:00<+wesdiscordbot> okay here you go 20190421 14:25:36<+wesdiscordbot> thanks 20190421 14:25:47<+wesdiscordbot> guess ill stay away from modifying things from now on lmao 20190421 14:26:08<+wesdiscordbot> Oh, it's fun modifying things ^^ 20190421 14:26:18<+wesdiscordbot> if you know how to fix them if they break 20190421 14:26:18<+wesdiscordbot> xD 20190421 14:40:57<+wesdiscordbot> When one edits files, it only has an effect if one starts the current scenario from the beginning (with the pre turn 1 save) – otherwise one must edit the savefile instead. I could imagine that this one line went missing when you startet the scenario, and added it back later. 20190421 14:43:03<+wesdiscordbot> I prob should of editted the save file instead yeh 20190421 14:45:05-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has joined #wesnoth 20190421 14:48:25<+wesdiscordbot> so is there a drakes campaign? lol 20190421 14:48:45-!- Haudegen [~quassel@cm56-229-75.liwest.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20190421 14:52:20<+wesdiscordbot> ALSO are the saves like cloud saved, so can I play on my desktop and later on my laptop? 20190421 15:00:47< celticminstrel> IIRC the Steam version does save your games to the cloud. 20190421 15:01:13< celticminstrel> Not your addons or preferences or custom maps though. 20190421 15:22:14<+wesdiscordbot> fair 20190421 15:22:18<+wesdiscordbot> also why is it talking through a bot 20190421 15:24:31<+wesdiscordbot> celticminstrel is communicating from the IRC channel. 20190421 15:25:30<+wesdiscordbot> interesting 20190421 15:47:51< celticminstrel> ...at they didn't assume I was a bot this time. 20190421 15:48:17< celticminstrel> ^at least 20190421 15:48:57<+wesdiscordbot> ...that happened? 20190421 16:47:19<+wesdiscordbot> confirmed: celticminstrel is a robot irl 20190421 16:48:55<+wesdiscordbot> hay, guys? 20190421 16:51:20<+wesdiscordbot> hi 20190421 16:52:24<+wesdiscordbot> greetings 20190421 17:01:32<+wesdiscordbot> hello 20190421 17:04:52<+wesdiscordbot> oh, today is easter 20190421 17:05:13<+wesdiscordbot> is it allowed to wish the wesnoth community a happy easter? 20190421 17:05:22<+wesdiscordbot> easter is a religious holiday, i dont want to risk offending anyone 20190421 17:05:58<+wesdiscordbot> almost no people are actually offended when you say things like that. 20190421 17:06:02<+wesdiscordbot> happy easter! 20190421 17:06:10<+wesdiscordbot> hope u have a great day 20190421 17:15:11<+wesdiscordbot> Lol WTF 20190421 17:20:41<+wesdiscordbot> Anyone up for a 1v1? 20190421 17:23:42< celticminstrel> I came here just now because someone was addressing me, but it was just someone saying something dumb. :/ 20190421 17:24:20< celticminstrel> Also, Easter isn't really a religious holiday anymore. 20190421 17:24:58< celticminstrel> If you're religious you'll probably be celebrating Lent instead, I think. 20190421 17:25:01< celticminstrel> Which is decidedly religious. 20190421 17:25:14< celticminstrel> But Easter (like Christmas) is pretty secularized nowadays. 20190421 17:25:29<+wesdiscordbot> No 1v1s? 20190421 17:32:34<+wesdiscordbot> If someone were offended by something like that wouldn't that mean that they are just not tolerant? 20190421 17:33:00< celticminstrel> Maybe? 20190421 17:34:55<+wesdiscordbot> Hmm. 20190421 17:35:53< celticminstrel> I could maybe see someone being offended by an implied assumption that the listeners are Christian, though. 20190421 17:37:08< celticminstrel> I don't know if that actually happens. 20190421 17:38:29<+wesdiscordbot> well, if no one is upset I hope everybody has a great day 20190421 17:38:57< celticminstrel> I'm sure everyone will enjoy feasting on chocolate eggs. ;) 20190421 17:39:05< celticminstrel> Well, except the people who hate chocolate, I guess. 20190421 17:39:15< celticminstrel> But they can always have hard-boiled eggs instead. 20190421 17:39:20<+wesdiscordbot> that's a good idea, i should buy some chocolate later, it is probably on discount 20190421 17:39:20< celticminstrel> Unless they hate eggs too, mind you. 20190421 17:39:50<+wesdiscordbot> I'd say such an assumption (that wishing happy Easter is only for Christians) would be stretching it. Easter is also celebrated in many secular countries such as here (Finland). 20190421 17:39:58<+wesdiscordbot> well, that's great 20190421 17:40:00< celticminstrel> Yeah, indeed. 20190421 17:40:02<+wesdiscordbot> I just wanted to make sure 20190421 17:40:06< celticminstrel> Like I said, Easter is pretty secularized. 20190421 17:40:22< celticminstrel> Maybe even more so than Christmas actually? 20190421 17:40:24<+wesdiscordbot> as I have known people who get a bit annoyed when I wish them merry christmas, stuff like that 20190421 17:40:32<+wesdiscordbot> always good to just make sure 20190421 17:40:40<+wesdiscordbot> Happy Easter! 20190421 17:40:59< celticminstrel> The solution to that on Christmas is to either go generic and say "Happy Holidays", or be more specific and add things like "Happy Chanukah" as well. 20190421 17:41:19<+wesdiscordbot> Good idea! 20190421 17:41:40< celticminstrel> Pretty sure there are other holidays around that time too, maybe Diwali or something, not sure. 20190421 17:42:20<+wesdiscordbot> Then I think they should be more tolerant about Christian listeners (unless there aren't any, then I can see that being the case). 20190421 17:43:34< celticminstrel> I don't know of any other holidays around Easter time though. 20190421 17:44:16< celticminstrel> So maybe the problem around Christmas time is that there are a number of different celebrations that people observe, and they get a little annoyed if you assume which one they observe. 20190421 18:18:26<+wesdiscordbot> Woah why is my spectre talking to me 20190421 18:18:28<+wesdiscordbot> he looks so cool 20190421 18:20:51<+wesdiscordbot> I love the stories in this game dfsgfdasgdf 20190421 18:42:07<+wesdiscordbot> what campaign 20190421 19:13:23<+wesdiscordbot> descent into darkness 20190421 19:15:51<+wesdiscordbot> Yeah. DiD is the most compellingly written and also uses the Necromancer units, which are, IMO, the most interesting. 20190421 19:16:55<+wesdiscordbot> Don't forget to utilize ghouls. They can resist almost anything and have enough health to tank damage while your more frail units in the back come forward to deal the real damage. 20190421 19:18:59<+wesdiscordbot> not to mention poison 20190421 19:23:43<+wesdiscordbot> Yes, ghouls are formidable foes. I think I've had hard time fighting them in TSG. 20190421 19:24:44-!- Haudegen [~quassel@cm56-229-75.liwest.at] has joined #wesnoth 20190421 19:29:01<+wesdiscordbot> hopefully the way I rewrote DiD also made the gameplay reasonably interesting 20190421 19:29:41<+wesdiscordbot> within the bounds of mainline campaigns anyway, UMC always has crazy stuff 20190421 19:31:55<+wesdiscordbot> E.g. Genesis. 20190421 19:33:04<+wesdiscordbot> indeed 20190421 19:33:12<+wesdiscordbot> i think ill be checking out the rewritten DiD 20190421 19:33:21<+wesdiscordbot> since it sounds like you did more changes than i thought 20190421 19:34:02<+wesdiscordbot> DiD is among my favorites as well so i dont have a problem redoing it again 20190421 19:35:01<+wesdiscordbot> yah, it wasn't just a dialogue revision 20190421 19:35:40<+wesdiscordbot> I did redesign some of the scenarios, since straight on battles army vs. army to me are pretty boring if there's too many of them 20190421 19:35:42< celticminstrel> There should definitely be more talking ghost line units in all scenarios where ghosts appear at all. 20190421 19:35:44<+wesdiscordbot> sweet 20190421 19:35:53< celticminstrel> I meant to say campaigns, not scenarios. 20190421 19:35:58< celticminstrel> Though it still works. 20190421 19:36:14<+wesdiscordbot> in the ones I left as army vs. army, there's some strategy tricks for you to use, just like the army vs. army ones in Genesis 20190421 19:36:32<+wesdiscordbot> though I guess they're trickier in Genesis, since I'm less inclined to be nice to newer players XP 20190421 19:36:50<+wesdiscordbot> true, the fort battle was painful lmao 20190421 19:37:05<+wesdiscordbot> well, until [REDACTED] happened 20190421 19:37:21<+wesdiscordbot> my fav army vs. army one is the one where the demons siege caerleon 20190421 19:37:33<+wesdiscordbot> same 20190421 19:37:54<+wesdiscordbot> fort one is tricky too 20190421 19:38:12< celticminstrel> Oh huh a Welsh city name. 20190421 19:38:15<+wesdiscordbot> and actually I just got mauled trying to play through latest version of the second scenario so 20190421 19:38:22<+wesdiscordbot> I have to make that easier 😂 20190421 19:38:23<+wesdiscordbot> oof 20190421 19:38:29< celticminstrel> Come to think of it, Wesnoth's city names mostly aren't Welsh-sounding, right? 20190421 19:38:30<+wesdiscordbot> and by 2nd scenario you still mean Genesis right? 20190421 19:38:33<+wesdiscordbot> ya 20190421 19:38:39<+wesdiscordbot> ...2nd scenario wasnt that hard tbh 20190421 19:38:43<+wesdiscordbot> not before 20190421 19:38:43<+wesdiscordbot> tho i played on Easy 20190421 19:38:43<+wesdiscordbot> lmao 20190421 19:38:45<+wesdiscordbot> ah 20190421 19:38:49< celticminstrel> Neither Elensefar nor Weldyn sound especially Welsh to me. 20190421 19:38:56<+wesdiscordbot> spawns on hard mode are doubled compared to easy mode 20190421 19:38:57<+wesdiscordbot> so 20190421 19:38:58<+wesdiscordbot> yeah 20190421 19:39:01<+wesdiscordbot> Weldyn sounds low-end Welsh. 20190421 19:39:12<+wesdiscordbot> and I upped them further in the latest version but that was overkill 20190421 19:39:19< celticminstrel> True, I could see it being Welsh maybe, but it doesn't sound especially Welsh. 20190421 19:39:22<+wesdiscordbot> so I just got run through by a horde of windlashers ~_~ 20190421 19:39:36< celticminstrel> But the unit names (the randomly-generated ones) for loyalists and outlaws sound distinctly Welsh. 20190421 20:29:32<+wesdiscordbot> ooh Drogan's got a new portrait, and Dela shows up earlier 20190421 20:29:33<+wesdiscordbot> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/569620751720775689/SPOILER_unknown.png 20190421 20:41:02<+wesdiscordbot> DiD is big hard 20190421 20:43:28<+wesdiscordbot> lol 20190421 20:44:50<+wesdiscordbot> whoa i like the new scenario (the third one) 20190421 20:44:58<+wesdiscordbot> very interesting, adds a bit more depth 20190421 20:47:10-!- Narrat [~Narrat@p5DCC618B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20190421 20:59:51-!- Haudegen [~quassel@cm56-229-75.liwest.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20190421 21:33:05-!- Haudegen [~quassel@cm56-229-75.liwest.at] has joined #wesnoth 20190421 22:29:23<+wesdiscordbot> wow, so far its definetly an improvement 20190421 23:03:21<+wesdiscordbot> now im starting to see all the touches inspired off Genesis in the remake 20190421 23:03:24<+wesdiscordbot> and i like em 20190421 23:43:07-!- Narrat [~Narrat@p5DCC618B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] --- Log closed Mon Apr 22 00:00:40 2019