--- Log opened Mon Jun 10 00:00:42 2019 20190610 00:16:59-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20190610 00:23:35-!- Narrat [~Narrat@p5DED1BEF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance.] 20190610 01:09:47<+wesdiscordbot> I'm real curious, would love the replay too :D 20190610 03:23:35-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Quit: And lo! The computer falls into a deep sleep, to awake again some other day!] 20190610 08:59:02<+wesdiscordbot> Anyone in the mood for a wesnoth game? 20190610 09:26:37<+wesdiscordbot> Anyone wants an Arabic translation to be worked on? https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=643238#p643238 20190610 10:03:33-!- Ivanovic_ [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has joined #wesnoth 20190610 10:05:03-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20190610 10:06:42-!- Ivanovic_ is now known as Ivanovic 20190610 11:16:15-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at] has joined #wesnoth 20190610 12:10:57-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has joined #wesnoth 20190610 13:02:39-!- celticminstrel is now known as celmin|away 20190610 13:43:58-!- psymin [~psymin@69.146.8.222] has joined #wesnoth 20190610 13:56:10-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20190610 14:19:34-!- psymin [~psymin@69.146.8.222] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20190610 14:20:07-!- psymin [~psymin@69.146.8.222] has joined #wesnoth 20190610 14:31:19-!- Soo_Slow [Soo_Slow@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/sooslow/x-31376162] has joined #wesnoth 20190610 16:08:03<+wesdiscordbot> Most of the people who use linux and speak arabic, can understand english easily 20190610 16:08:37<+wesdiscordbot> so IMO I don't think there is no real need for Arabic translation 20190610 16:44:11-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20190610 16:56:18<+wesdiscordbot> There was some work on an arabic translation before 20190610 16:56:22<+wesdiscordbot> very little, however 20190610 16:56:32<+wesdiscordbot> and I'm not exactly sure how good our RTL text support is 20190610 17:03:10<+wesdiscordbot> proper support for arabic is the reason we did switch to pango 20190610 17:03:37<+wesdiscordbot> wesnoth will supports not only rtl but also proper connections etc 20190610 17:04:01<+wesdiscordbot> can I ask what is pango, I'm a developer too and I like that stuff 20190610 17:04:30<+wesdiscordbot> it's text layout library used mostly by GNOME apps 20190610 17:06:08<+wesdiscordbot> it can handle really complex scripts and ligatures 20190610 17:06:34<+wesdiscordbot> so it's better than FreeType 20190610 17:07:28<+wesdiscordbot> freetype only loads font files 20190610 17:08:48<+wesdiscordbot> I mean you don't need more than rendering the chars once, and info about every char 20190610 17:09:12<+wesdiscordbot> then every thing happens on the gpu 20190610 17:09:45<+wesdiscordbot> Hello 20190610 17:10:02<+wesdiscordbot> Rendering text is much more complex than that. There are combining characters, swapping text direction in the middle of a line, and stuff like that. 20190610 17:10:45<+wesdiscordbot> Text rendering always needs to consider the whole string, not just one character. (In fact, even the definition of "character" is quite blurry.) 20190610 17:12:12<+wesdiscordbot> yeah, true, I almost forgot that, My exp with text rendering is English only 20190610 17:13:29<+wesdiscordbot> even english has some complexitiies 20190610 17:13:35<+wesdiscordbot> like fl ligatures 20190610 17:13:57<+wesdiscordbot> fl ? 20190610 17:14:06<+wesdiscordbot> isn't that just f + l ? 20190610 17:16:16<+wesdiscordbot> fl wait it's a single char? 20190610 17:16:26<+wesdiscordbot> I recall that some scripts require using slightly diffent shape of f before l 20190610 17:16:40<+wesdiscordbot> but only it's part of word root 20190610 17:17:16<+wesdiscordbot> it's pretty optional for terminals though 20190610 17:17:34<+wesdiscordbot> o_O wow, I knowledge about English is poor 20190610 17:17:37<+wesdiscordbot> but it's totally something text shaping engines would want to implement for the lulz 😛 20190610 17:19:29<+wesdiscordbot> :thonk: 20190610 17:19:49<+wesdiscordbot> by scripts do you mean fonts 20190610 17:20:41<+wesdiscordbot> I think it refers to writing systems, such as Latin characters, Cyrillic characters, kanji and such. 20190610 17:21:55<+wesdiscordbot> ive never heard of this f l thing, though 20190610 17:22:23<+wesdiscordbot> I think scripts means the way of writing a language or some thing like that or maybe the writing part only of language. 20190610 17:23:54<+wesdiscordbot> there are a lot of very complex typographic rules 20190610 17:24:04<+wesdiscordbot> and I'm not even sure I'm remembering fl thing accurately 20190610 17:28:45<+wesdiscordbot> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/587694652019441694/2019-06-10-172829_120x113_scrot.png 20190610 17:28:56<+wesdiscordbot> that's 1.14 with --all-translations 20190610 17:29:59<+wesdiscordbot> wow, good arabic , but wait the word above credits is settings? I think it's better to be "أعدادات" 20190610 17:30:09<+wesdiscordbot> I think having better arabic translation would be really cool 20190610 17:30:17<+wesdiscordbot> even if not many people will use it 20190610 17:30:29<+wesdiscordbot> it would be good even as learning experience 20190610 17:30:30<+wesdiscordbot> sorry I mean "إعدادات" 20190610 17:30:39<+wesdiscordbot> like for example we even have british english translation 20190610 17:31:15<+wesdiscordbot> @loonycyborg Agreed 20190610 17:31:23<+wesdiscordbot> is there any deference between British and US? 20190610 17:31:38<+wesdiscordbot> yes 20190610 17:31:47<+wesdiscordbot> dextrous / dexterous for example 20190610 17:32:52<+wesdiscordbot> Or, say, harbour / harbor. In general, US English likes to drop letters here and there. 20190610 18:18:05<+wesdiscordbot> Isn't US English actually somehow the 'older' version of British English? 20190610 18:18:35<+wesdiscordbot> So instead of US dropping letters, British added some. 🤔 20190610 18:21:10<+wesdiscordbot> Hmm, according to Wikipedia, it was US English that changed here. 20190610 18:21:14<+wesdiscordbot> "Differences in orthography are also minor. The main differences are that American English usually uses spellings such as flavor for British flavour, fiber for fibre, defense for defence, analyze for analyse, license for licence, catalog for catalogue and traveling for travelling. Noah Webster popularized such spellings in America, but he did not invent most of them. Rather, "he chose already existing options [...] on such 20190610 18:21:15<+wesdiscordbot> grounds as simplicity, analogy or etymology."" 20190610 18:21:49<+wesdiscordbot> "50+ new messages" ... 20190610 18:22:01<+wesdiscordbot> https://tenor.com/view/parks-and-rec-andy-dwyer-chris-pratt-jaw-drop-shocked-gif-4421172 20190610 18:28:07-!- Haudegen [~quassel@46.125.250.88] has joined #wesnoth 20190610 18:32:55-!- mystic_x [~X@unaffiliated/mysticx] has joined #wesnoth 20190610 18:59:35<+wesdiscordbot> British English likes its extraneous U's 20190610 19:01:22<+wesdiscordbot> anyway, if someone wants to pick up the arabic translation again they're welcome to 20190610 19:18:42<+wesdiscordbot> You guys ever played The Ravagers? 20190610 19:18:52<+wesdiscordbot> It was quite a great surprise 20190610 19:19:27<+wesdiscordbot> I didn't like the dialogues, but the plot was decent and the gameplay was great 20190610 19:21:03-!- Haudegen [~quassel@46.125.250.88] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20190610 19:37:45-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at] has joined #wesnoth 20190610 19:43:51-!- Soo_Slow [Soo_Slow@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/sooslow/x-31376162] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20190610 20:26:11-!- Soo_Slow [Soo_Slow@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/sooslow/x-31376162] has joined #wesnoth 20190610 20:59:07-!- Soo_Slow [Soo_Slow@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/sooslow/x-31376162] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20190610 21:26:40<+wesdiscordbot> I havent , sounds neat:) 20190610 21:28:49<+wesdiscordbot> also i had a wesnoth question and it requires a screenshot of a wesnoth scenario on my computer but im not allowed to post any pictures on this server whatsoever 20190610 21:29:19<+wesdiscordbot> (long story). should i ask in the forums or maybe someone can dm me and ask whats up? 20190610 21:50:19-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20190610 22:05:05<+wesdiscordbot> Is wesnoth going to have 2.0 version? Just a question 20190610 22:16:11<+wesdiscordbot> No idea 20190610 22:40:43-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20190610 23:21:48-!- psymin [~psymin@69.146.8.222] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20190610 23:28:21<+wesdiscordbot> I think in a long time @SkyRZ5 20190610 23:29:18<+wesdiscordbot> theres project haldric 20190610 23:32:08<+wesdiscordbot> i dont know much about it. i think its where they are trying to remake wesnoth on other programming languages so that it is runnable on more platforms 20190610 23:32:12<+wesdiscordbot> something like that 20190610 23:39:04<+wesdiscordbot> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/587787845905809428/Final_Finisher.mp4 20190610 23:39:05<+wesdiscordbot> Haldric is the remake with the Godot Engine. It's making steady progress, but unless more people join, it's going to take a very long time to catch up. 20190610 23:44:55<+wesdiscordbot> you might say 20190610 23:45:01<+wesdiscordbot> that people will be... waiting for godot 20190610 23:45:39<+wesdiscordbot> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/587789501531684884/0e9.png --- Log closed Tue Jun 11 00:00:43 2019