--- Log opened Thu Jun 20 00:00:06 2019 20190620 00:19:30-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20190620 00:54:00-!- celmin|away is now known as celticminstrel 20190620 03:03:43-!- TC01_ is now known as TC01 20190620 03:48:44-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Quit: And lo! The computer falls into a deep sleep, to awake again some other day!] 20190620 03:58:05-!- psymin [~psymin@host-69-146-224-142.static.bresnan.net] has joined #wesnoth 20190620 05:10:21-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20190620 05:45:02-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20190620 05:51:14-!- psymin [~psymin@host-69-146-224-142.static.bresnan.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20190620 07:56:25<+wesdiscordbot> <かみăȘり> hi all person 😄 20190620 07:57:00<+wesdiscordbot> Hi. 20190620 08:02:24<+wesdiscordbot> <かみăȘり> some people told here on the wesnoth the ladder era. it is official or it is not official? 20190620 08:03:19<+wesdiscordbot> Not official. Might be official for ladder. (But ladder is not official.) 20190620 08:03:35<+wesdiscordbot> <かみăȘり> so at the add on then? 20190620 08:03:51<+wesdiscordbot> Yeah. 20190620 08:04:24<+wesdiscordbot> <かみăȘり> last question! it is now here or it is not made for this time? 20190620 08:05:46<+wesdiscordbot> I think it already is on add-on server. Not 100% sure. 20190620 08:05:47<+wesdiscordbot> Hello friend! ❀ it is a work in progress 20190620 08:05:50<+wesdiscordbot> I think 20190620 08:05:51<+wesdiscordbot> oh hmm 20190620 08:06:09<+wesdiscordbot> ok I wouldn't know XD...i hope I didnt mislead you sorry 20190620 08:06:23<+wesdiscordbot> <かみăȘり> ok thanks to hejnewar you and heath you 20190620 08:06:38<+wesdiscordbot> You're welcome! 😅 ❀ ❀ 20190620 08:06:47<+wesdiscordbot> It is indeed on the addon server. 20190620 08:06:52<+wesdiscordbot> :O 20190620 08:07:09<+wesdiscordbot> <かみăȘり> bye 20190620 08:07:22<+wesdiscordbot> Bye sweety :)) 20190620 08:07:27<+wesdiscordbot> take care! 20190620 08:12:30-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at] has joined #wesnoth 20190620 08:24:18<+wesdiscordbot> The Ladder Era is available. Read the add-on description please. List of the changes is also available in add-ons/Ladder_Era/changelog.txt If you don't know how to find the add-ons folder, press i button in the bottom left corner of the starting screen of the game. All modified units have "ladder" suffix, e.g. "Ghost (ladder)". First line of the unit description says about it differences comparing to the Default Era. 20190620 08:25:51<+wesdiscordbot> However, balance changes were not tested yet and the Ladder Era will not be accepted for competitive games until it is tested. 20190620 08:30:03<+wesdiscordbot> Take into account that it will be tested by top rated players. Request for changes only if you are sure in your level of competence please. Otherwise the discussion will be counterproductive. 20190620 08:34:41<+wesdiscordbot> Note that I just coded the era. Lead of the project is admin of the ladder @Cackfiend 20190620 08:46:54<+wesdiscordbot> Well cackfiend and i wanted to play but we havent been able to get a hold of each other unfortunately... i am afraid it is moreso my fault 20190620 08:47:01<+wesdiscordbot> but I had a lot of balancing ideas that I thought were good 20190620 09:46:36-!- claymore [~claymore@unaffiliated/claymore] has joined #wesnoth 20190620 10:43:01<+wesdiscordbot> I don't need to test them to see that they are mostly unbalanced. Not to mention lore that sometimes is just destroyed. @Cackfiend I expected more from you. Even if these changes aren't yours you should have some common sense as project leader. 20190620 10:47:58<+wesdiscordbot> How do you just see it? 20190620 10:50:14<+wesdiscordbot> "However, balance changes were not tested yet." They didn't why I need to test them? 20190620 10:51:15<+wesdiscordbot> @Rory That is a good opportunity to test and improve my stress resistance. That is all I am going to say regarding your comments 😜 20190620 10:52:10<+wesdiscordbot> I don't see anyone forcing you to test it. And I don't see how this is different from any new addon. 20190620 10:52:52<+wesdiscordbot> Testing in MP is a lot easier if the participiants can download it from the add-on server. 20190620 10:57:50<+wesdiscordbot> @sevu The add-on is called "Ladder Era". It is up to @Cackfiend to make an announcement about it. The only reason why I responded here is because people were asking about the ladder era and I know more than the rest. 20190620 11:02:18<+wesdiscordbot> In any case, I welcome that effort 20190620 11:05:56<+wesdiscordbot> @sergey Also looking thru recent balance topic, these changes are not supported or explained. Only thing that is said is that they were created by old players. You should look at most recent dunefolk balance topics and learn from them how to push and convince people to your changes. 20190620 11:29:51-!- claymore [~claymore@unaffiliated/claymore] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20190620 11:35:14-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has quit [Quit: Disconnecting from stoned server.] 20190620 11:36:18-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has joined #wesnoth 20190620 12:20:13-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has joined #wesnoth 20190620 12:43:11-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20190620 12:47:22-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Quit: KABOOM! It seems that I have exploded. Please wait while I reinstall the universe.] 20190620 13:08:28<+wesdiscordbot> @Rory The Ladder Era is just entering a testing phase. It is designed for competitive 1v1 play. It doesn't care about lore or single player campaigns. It is aimed to fix issues at high end 1v1 competitive play. It needs a lot of testing for any of the changes to get thru to the official release of the era 20190620 13:14:09< Soliton> of course if balance really was the only guiding principle we'd have a single faction by now and would only need to worry about first player advantage. there are some things like lore/diversity/interesting gameplay or whatever you want to call it that is in some ways above balance actually. 20190620 13:15:45< Soliton> naturally something like lore is fairly flexible to a certain extent... 20190620 13:19:16<+wesdiscordbot> Well im assuming he means the footpad going from a club wielder to an axe wielder... not sure how that destroys lore 20190620 13:50:58<+wesdiscordbot> -20% arcane Ulfserker. 20190620 13:52:39<+wesdiscordbot> If you attribute the berserker rage to magical sources...why not? 😄 20190620 13:56:52<+wesdiscordbot> hehe. A lore reason can be made for most any change tbh 20190620 13:57:37-!- psymin [~psymin@69.146.8.222] has joined #wesnoth 20190620 13:59:51<+wesdiscordbot> Naga / Merman underwater mining operations. 20190620 14:00:20<+wesdiscordbot> Do not even start that topic. 20190620 14:26:27<+wesdiscordbot> what topic? 20190620 14:32:31<+wesdiscordbot> 👀 20190620 14:33:53<+wesdiscordbot> It was about 2 (?) weeks long discussion about whether or not naga / merman can mine.. 20190620 15:02:48-!- lolTest [loltest@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/loltest] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20190620 15:23:29-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20190620 15:43:04<+wesdiscordbot> lol 20190620 15:50:30<+wesdiscordbot> this is a fantasy game 20190620 15:50:32<+wesdiscordbot> deal with it 20190620 15:50:36<+wesdiscordbot> đŸ•¶ 20190620 15:50:39<+wesdiscordbot> đŸ€Ł 20190620 15:52:17<+wesdiscordbot> Krakens building campfires 20190620 15:52:25<+wesdiscordbot> stuff like that just works 20190620 15:54:30<+wesdiscordbot> Drakes building igloos 20190620 15:55:24-!- Ravana [~Ravana@wesnoth/mp-mod/ravana] has quit [Disconnected by services] 20190620 15:55:42<+wesdiscordbot> Woses building castles 20190620 15:55:47<+wesdiscordbot> or... that might work actually. 20190620 15:55:53-!- Ravana [~Ravana@wesnoth/mp-mod/ravana] has joined #wesnoth 20190620 15:59:15-!- behalebabo_ [~behalebab@unaffiliated/behalebabo] has joined #wesnoth 20190620 16:01:11<+wesdiscordbot> Woses causing global warming 20190620 16:01:17<+wesdiscordbot> Even better. Wose being a castle. 20190620 16:01:18<+wesdiscordbot> 😆 20190620 16:03:13-!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: behalebabo 20190620 16:03:13-!- behalebabo_ is now known as behalebabo 20190620 16:04:13<+wesdiscordbot> @Inky tentacles building dating apps 20190620 16:04:24<+wesdiscordbot> đŸ€·đŸż 20190620 16:05:23<+wesdiscordbot> 🔞 20190620 16:05:43<+wesdiscordbot> wut? 20190620 16:06:41<+wesdiscordbot> Ah I thought you were implying something else haha 😅 20190620 16:08:09<+wesdiscordbot> :gaze: 20190620 16:08:14<+wesdiscordbot> wait ... i forgot 20190620 16:08:28<+wesdiscordbot> no gaze emote here ... 20190620 16:08:44<+wesdiscordbot> You know like saying tentacles or something đŸ˜± 20190620 16:08:54<+wesdiscordbot> *dating 20190620 16:09:25<+wesdiscordbot> 😕 20190620 16:09:33<+wesdiscordbot> not following, but okay 20190620 16:10:23<+wesdiscordbot> i turned this into an emote on another wesnoth server 20190620 16:10:23<+wesdiscordbot> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/591298810756595723/gaze.png 20190620 16:10:26<+wesdiscordbot> just a suggestion 20190620 16:11:09<+wesdiscordbot> > another wesnoth server 20190620 16:11:52<+wesdiscordbot> but i think it would look great on this server 20190620 16:17:30<+wesdiscordbot> another one? 20190620 16:17:41<+wesdiscordbot> whats that server about? mostly matchmaking? 20190620 16:17:46<+wesdiscordbot> or the game as a whole? 20190620 16:32:19<+wesdiscordbot> mostly the latter 20190620 16:35:55<+wesdiscordbot> Has any of you made use of the UMC Replay Forum so far? 20190620 17:05:05-!- Haudegen [~quassel@212-186-77-29.static.upcbusiness.at] has joined #wesnoth 20190620 18:03:19<+wesdiscordbot> i'm not on the forums a whole lot 20190620 18:03:26<+wesdiscordbot> but perhaps i'll check it out 20190620 18:04:41-!- Haudegen [~quassel@212-186-77-29.static.upcbusiness.at] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20190620 18:06:51-!- Haudegen [~quassel@212-186-77-29.static.upcbusiness.at] has joined #wesnoth 20190620 18:30:01<+wesdiscordbot> Hello, how fare thee? 20190620 19:06:41<+wesdiscordbot> nae well, Tachanka, nae well 20190620 19:06:49<+wesdiscordbot> 😭 20190620 19:13:38<+wesdiscordbot> oh? what happened? @PastaSaucey 20190620 19:14:36<+wesdiscordbot> It's nothing too serious, but i haven't had the most glorious time ever as a mod lol 20190620 19:52:16<+wesdiscordbot> Hi all! đŸ„° 20190620 19:52:36<+wesdiscordbot> @Inky hahaha that drake building igloo sounds so cute!!😊 20190620 20:13:56-!- Narrat [~Narrat@p2E5114CB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20190620 20:47:07<+wesdiscordbot> is there an easy way to save a chat log from pms in game, or do i have to screenshot like 5 lines of text over and over? 20190620 20:56:00<+wesdiscordbot> i honestly don't know 20190620 20:56:10<+wesdiscordbot> is there someone bothering you in pm chat? 20190620 20:56:54<+wesdiscordbot> @Cackfiend 20190620 21:07:32<+wesdiscordbot> not really bothering me, id just like to save the chat 20190620 21:07:37<+wesdiscordbot> without taking 20 screenshots 20190620 21:09:55<+wesdiscordbot> like, i cant believe after all this time i still only see 8 lines of text in chat lobby. no way to expand the chat or anything :/ 20190620 21:11:51< zookeeper> ...PM's don't show up in the chatlog? 20190620 21:12:23< zookeeper> oh, lobby and not in game? well, yeah, i don't think there is a way. 20190620 21:17:41<+wesdiscordbot> i had to take 23 screenshots lol 20190620 21:18:50<+wesdiscordbot> I announced Ladder Era today https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=49964 20190620 21:19:02<+wesdiscordbot> im assuming i cant @everyone 20190620 22:02:08-!- aeth [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20190620 22:03:01-!- aeth [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has joined #wesnoth 20190620 22:22:57-!- aeth [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20190620 22:24:49-!- aeth [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has joined #wesnoth 20190620 22:37:34< Ravana> you can only increase the number of lines visible at once 20190620 22:46:36-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20190620 22:54:38-!- psymin [~psymin@69.146.8.222] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20190620 23:21:34-!- Haudegen [~quassel@212-186-77-29.static.upcbusiness.at] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20190620 23:27:11<+wesdiscordbot> the uh 20190620 23:27:14<+wesdiscordbot> options icons 20190620 23:27:17<+wesdiscordbot> those arent units in the game right 20190620 23:27:19<+wesdiscordbot> like most of them 20190620 23:27:24<+wesdiscordbot> cause i'd love a singing skeleton 20190620 23:36:38-!- psymin [~psymin@host-69-146-224-142.static.bresnan.net] has joined #wesnoth 20190620 23:59:12-!- Narrat [~Narrat@p2E5114CB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance.] --- Log closed Fri Jun 21 00:00:07 2019